So how 'bout that Ecometer by Auto meter?

[1stToyota]

yah it hooks into the OBD port.... plug and play bro. just mount it with something reusable and you should be fine.

Thanks for the reply, but what I was really asking was does it actually unplug @ the gauge/unit itself, or is it wired in permanently? I know that the OBDII port powers the unit. I should have been more clear.

edit: I looked at some photos on the thread...doesn't look like it's removable.

[MadMax]

The ecometer itself is attached using velcro, so it can be used on more than one vehicle although I don't know how that works. Hopefully someone who has one has done so, and can explain.

I am contemplating one as well, but would like to use it not only in my Yaris but Jeep Wrangler too!

By the way, with shipping J.C. Whitney comes to $63.83; is there any better prices out there? Garm?

Cheers! M2

[1stToyota]

Why I wanted to know if cable detatches from the actual gauge was so I'd be able to run cable through door wiring harness...boot?, I guess you'd call it..., run cable behind driver's door panel and mount gauge on the dummy p/w trim piece.

[Sodium Duck]

You'd have to cut it if you wanted to do that. It's only three wires -- that'd be cool to mount it on the arm rest area.

[ezhacker1]

I got an update on the ecometer

I noticed that my mpg went down having my AFE intake in, and actual mpg was 10% lower than Ecometer's. Like i have said before actual and ecometer mpg was spot on with stock intake. So i went back to stock intake, fresh tank, filled up got 34.0 on eco meter, guess what got 34.0 actual.

hat was with as much DFCO as i could do. Next to try out is as much nuetral coasting as possible. DFCO still doesnt make sense to me, the gauge moves up slower in "DFCO" than in "Neutral". One would think that actual would be higher than ecometer if DFCO cuts off gas, compared to Neutral.

[Hershey]

is it set at 100 or other setting to get your spot on reading for overall mileage indicator ? Thanks .

[ezhacker1]

i dont know the setting, i never touched it. Just with id say 90% DFCO, 10% Neutral i got spot on with the stock intake. Ill compare DFCO + stock intake to my current goal of max Neutral + stock intake. Judging by the way the ecometer climbs, neutral is pure win, we'll see.

[Hershey]

if you've never made adjustments then it's most likely set at the factory setting of 100 .

[Hershey]

had the overall average up to 50 a few times earlier with 2 people , temp of 75 , tires at 35 > 36 p.s.i. , and going average speed of 47 . This a new unit sent by AUTOMETER to replace the old unit that put a draw on the battery when car was not in use causing it to die on several occasions . Took it to dealer under warrranty after charging it and their tests showed no fault with battery or electrical system . Saying it was something we must've left on . New units have been upgraded not to drain battery when car is not in use . The overall average is now at 42.7 . Have to wait until 200 plus miles is reached to see if ECO-METER overall average matches or is close to the calculated mileage .

[pawsplus]

So I've been running the A/C some already here in TN . . . And I can't tell any diff on the Ecometer. Shouldn't I be able to?? Basically, if I'm in 4th gear going 40 mph w/ foot lightly on gas I'm getting approx the same reading w/ A/C on as w/out. ??

[ezhacker1]

one of the green leds on the metering portion is out, the ones that turn on and off accordlingly. Wonder if i have a warranty on it, its only 9 months old too.

[spacemanoeuvres]

Hi all,

I skimmed the entire thread and I don't think I saw anything about this:

What are the tach related display options? Specifically, if you're in MPG mode are the LEDs around the edge still moving up and down with the RPMs?

Hope that makes sense, I may not be explaining it right. I watched a couple of the youtube videos but I was a little confused about what I was seeing (derp).

Also, how do folks like the tach function?

I like the idea of this device but I already have an analog tach and would hate to give up a lot of the speed/accuracy of the analog needle.

Thanks!

[ezhacker1]

I can explain a part of that as i never use any mode besides avg mpg. If i remember correctly the tach only refreshes 2x a sec like the MPG functions. The metering on the outside edge still displays your gas consumption, depending what you set your "goal" to. It is in no way a shift light.

Before i got my S cluster i used and still have installed a digital shift light. Never use the shift light portion, but i find reading numbers faster and more accurate (displays the 10th digit) than a needle that is placed in the center dash. PLus i have my ecometer right on top of the shift light so its perfect to see RPM and MPG correlation.

On a side note, im surprised this thread has kept on going from when i first asked if anyone heard about the product.

[Hershey]

one of the green leds on the metering portion is out, the ones that turn on and off accordlingly. Wonder if i have a warranty on it, its only 9 months old too. give them a call at AUTOMETER . Toll free , www.autometer.com/contact.aspx . Couldn't hurt .

[Hershey]

just filled up car with new ECO-METER and is off by 2.7 higher than the calculated mileage :frown: . So , set it to 95 instead of 100 for factory setting . Wait and see if next tank is more accurate ( closer ) with the E.M..

[STC]

Here's a great YouTube video of how the gadget works. Ecometer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05xscPhG5c)


Very cool! I'm using the very same techniques as in the video. Would be nice to see my actual driving fuel consumption using this devise. Is that the ODB Port next to the interior hood pop-up latch on the Yaris?

[Falconeer]

Okay this will be my last accessory after my projector head lamps and HID fog lights... I swear.

[Hershey]

did another fill after setting to 95 . This time 39.1 for E.M. and 40.62 for calculated mileage :rolleyes: . Thus set E.M. to 97 . Hopefully that'll get it closer to miles divided by gallons used . Used same pump and same speed to fill .

[Falconeer]

Should I get the Scangauge II or just get this one and be happy? It would be nice to know the temp of the engine/coolant cause I live in a really really hot country and I believe that the temp gauge should always be there in a car.

By the way, Mercedes has a 40, 60, 80 90 deg. C. Marking so you know what the actual temp of the car is. 4-cyl Benz engines run at about 60-80 in summer here while the 6 cyl engines are about 80-90. HOT is 120 Deg. C. Japanese cars have H and C marks only so we dunno what is HOT and COLD for all we know it could be 90 and 100! So, any idea on that?

[talnlnky]

Should I get the Scangauge II or just get this one and be happy? It would be nice to know the temp of the engine/coolant cause I live in a really really hot country and I believe that the temp gauge should always be there in a car.

By the way, Mercedes has a 40, 60, 80 90 deg. C. Marking so you know what the actual temp of the car is. 4-cyl Benz engines run at about 60-80 in summer here while the 6 cyl engines are about 80-90. HOT is 120 Deg. C. Japanese cars have H and C marks only so we dunno what is HOT and COLD for all we know it could be 90 and 100! So, any idea on that?

Yaris runs most efficient at 85C +/- 1C.
I've never seen mine go higher than 89C, tho I'm sure the car would still be safe at anything under 100C (tho I'd try my best to keep it below 93C)

If you think about it, boiling point for water is 100C, and the antifreeze will up that by about around 5-10C I think.

[Falconeer]

talnlnky: Thanks for the info. I will keep 85 in mind.

By the way:

100 Deg. C. is the boiling point of water, at 1 Atm pressure... That means at sea level. In a car's sealed engine and radiator, its under pressure.

This keeps it from boiling at 100 Deg. C.

Ofcourse its packing a lot more heat than water at 100 Deg. C. in an open container at sea level.

[Hershey]

filled up the 2010 automatic 3 door yesterday and the E.M. was right on the money with the calculated mileage . The C.M. and E.M. were 37.8 . The ECO-METER is set at 97 . This is a 1st for being exact . Have to see if next tank is the same .

[KrazyDawg]

I'll be getting mine in 2 days. I update my gas logs every 2 days if someone wants to track my data.

[Hershey]

filled up the 2010 automatic 3 door yesterday and the E.M. was right on the money with the calculated mileage . The C.M. and E.M. were 37.8 . The ECO-METER is set at 97 . This is a 1st for being exact . Have to see if next tank is the same . Nope . Reset to 98 . Reads a bit low , but at least I know it's doing a bit better than what the E.M. is showing .

[cali yaris]

just a heads up, the Ecometer is $59.95 in my store with free shipping. :thumbsup:

[KrazyDawg]

I'm looking into getting this cup holder mount so I can easily remove the Ecometer.

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/87/46/88/00/0087468800156_215X215.jpg
I found it for $11.84 on Walmart. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bracketron-GPS-Cup-Holder-Mount/14248250

The other alternative was getting a flat mat. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858999148

[caineroad]

can someone tell me where is the odc II port located? thanks

[STC]

can someone tell me where is the odc II port located? thanks

It is on the left side under the dash in front of the fusebox.... Next to the interior hood pop-up latch. :smile:

Cheers!

[KrazyDawg]

Office Depot sells the clear 3M Dual Lock strips if you need more for under $3. My initial install wore off the adhesive since I didn't apply it long enough and I remove the Ecometer from the dash on a regular basis. In my opinion, the included 3M Dual Lock works better than velcro. It "snaps" into place and looks more durable.

[ezhacker1]

Bumping up my thread cuz its already filled with so much Ecometer info.

I have proven at least one so far that, the Ecometer is accurate to 0.002% (too high) on stock intake. On the AFE dry filter type 2 short ram it was consistenly ~10% too high AND using more fuel.

On my latest fill up (10.119gal/last bar blinking), i got

34.2mpg Reading / 34.12mpg actual
Compared with AFE
~35.6mpg Reading / 32.7mpg actual

I never touched the eco-meter settings. so the only thing changed is the airbox replaced, one thing to note is i ran these two tests on stock size tires, the 185-60-15 flavor, reset ECU, cleaned MAF sensor with MAF cleaner spray, mix of Neutral/DFCO. Ironic enough I also drove much more spirited on the stock box, and dropped .4mpg cuz i idled to power my sub when i was doing some settings.

I have no idea why the eco-meter reads higher value than actual with more air, which should equate to more fuel burned. So there you have it, stock air box/TIRES = perfect accuracy.

Ill do another tank on stock box, to prove without a doubt. Tho it sucks to roll on steelies...

[KrazyDawg]

Bumping up my thread cuz its already filled with so much Ecometer info.

I have proven at least one so far that, the Ecometer is accurate to 0.002% (too high) on stock intake. On the AFE dry filter type 2 short ram it was consistenly ~10% too high AND using more fuel.

On my latest fill up (10.119gal/last bar blinking), i got

34.2mpg Reading / 34.12mpg actual
Compared with AFE
~35.6mpg Reading / 32.7mpg actual

I never touched the eco-meter settings. so the only thing changed is the airbox replaced, one thing to note is i ran these two tests on stock size tires, the 185-60-15 flavor, reset ECU, cleaned MAF sensor with MAF cleaner spray, mix of Neutral/DFCO. Ironic enough I also drove much more spirited on the stock box, and dropped .4mpg cuz i idled to power my sub when i was doing some settings.

I have no idea why the eco-meter reads higher value than actual with more air, which should equate to more fuel burned. So there you have it, stock air box/TIRES = perfect accuracy.

Ill do another tank on stock box, to prove without a doubt. Tho it sucks to roll on steelies...
I have a K&N air filter, stock tires, and steelies but my ecometer EFF was adjusted to 94 to make it 0.2% accurate. I also run my tire pressure at max sidewell of 44 PSI.

[ezhacker1]

That's helps prove my point. Pretty sure at stock setting the eco meter would give you higher than actual. Plus I got to .002% 1/5th a percent. I'm gonna try to drive as conservative as I can this tank, then good bye steelies

[nookandcrannycar]

Office Depot sells the clear 3M Dual Lock strips if you need more for under $3. My initial install wore off the adhesive since I didn't apply it long enough and I remove the Ecometer from the dash on a regular basis. In my opinion, the included 3M Dual Lock works better than velcro. It "snaps" into place and looks more durable.

^^^^^ This. They are fantastic. I have been using them for at least 10 years. When you do apply enough pressure for a long enough period of time, the mount is rock solid for years on end. I currently have one strip on each side (driver and passenger) not too far from the lower corner of each side of the windshield. These were two previous locations for the little square antennae head for my XM radio (when I had that hooked up). I left the 'dash side of the lock' in place on each side to occasionally use with other accessories. I've found it is best to make sure any aftermarket protectant has been removed from the mounting location prior to mounting. I've always purchased these at Radio Shack for less than the amount you stated, but now I can't find them on the Radio Shack website. Good to know that Office Depot has them.