Rear Window Defogger

[YarisOwnersDad]

This may not be news to the vast majority of folks here, but some other newbies like me who have not had their "Yarii" during any winter months might find this information useful. The rear window defogger must be turned off manually. I used mine this morning on the way to work, and I found it still on when I went to lunch today.

The lack of a timer on the defogger is very surprising to me. It is also surprising that it will stay on when the ignition is switched off. (There is a warning in the owners manual about draining the battery by leaving the defogger on when the car is shut off.)

Gee, I guess a guy really ought to read his owners manual, huh? :eek:

Tomster

[AmyV]

So I knew there was no timer, but I didn't know that it would continue warming even when the ignition is not on! Had my Yaris 2 years now and that is news to me. Thankfully I don't use my rear defogger very often here in SoCal...

Lol I am going to go consult my owner's manual on my lunch break :wink:

[YarisOwnersDad]

So I knew there was no timer, but I didn't know that it would continue warming even when the ignition is not on! Had my Yaris 2 years now and that is news to me. Thankfully I don't use my rear defogger very often here in SoCal...

Lol I am going to go consult my owner's manual on my lunch break :wink:


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[2009BBPliftback]

This may not be news to the vast majority of folks here, but some other newbies like me who have not had their "Yarii" during any winter months might find this information useful. The rear window defogger must be turned off manually. I used mine this morning on the way to work, and I found it still on when I went to lunch today.

The lack of a timer on the defogger is very surprising to me. It is also surprising that it will stay on when the ignition is switched off. (There is a warning in the owners manual about draining the battery by leaving the defogger on when the car is shut off.)

Gee, I guess a guy really ought to read his owners manual, huh? :eek:

Tomster

yeah its a simple thing such as a timer that makes me dislike my rear defroster.. I've forgotten to shut mine off on a few occasions although i'm going to have to question the battery drain while the ignition is off.. I just find that hard to believe even if it is printed in the owners manual.. kinda of like my scion xb having heated side view mirrors when in fact none of them were so equipped.

[AmyV]

Well, it's not like it's running when the keys are out. So, if the engine's running, you're good to leave it on. When your keys are out, you're good. The warning is just warning you about having the engine off with the keys in the 'On' position.

[YarisOwnersDad]

OK, the defogger is not "on" when the ignition is off. So, why the warning about battery drain?

Tom

[AmyV]

Hahaha... over-warning at it's finest!!!

They mean that when you are sitting in your car, with like the radio on waiting for... well god knows what, if you have your defogger on then, it could drain the battery. But even then, I mean how many hours would that take?! I would bet it would be at least a few :smile: But that is what they mean by engine not running, but keys in the 'on' position.

[b_hickman11]

If the light is on, then the defogger is on. If the light is off, then the defogger is off.

[YarisOwnersDad]

If the light is on, then the defogger is on. If the light is off, then the defogger is off.


Yeah, I noticed the defogger light was on when I went to lunch yesterday, but I had already started the car by then.

Last night I tried turning off the ignition while the defogger was on, and the light went out.

Tomster

[Sidicas]

Haha, you guys scare me..

I just bought a Yaris and I'm picking it up today.
It doesn't turn off when you turn off the car? WHAAAAT? haha, that is too far out there to believe.. Those defoggers pull down a LOT of power, they would drain a battery within minutes, there's just no way Toyota would screw up something so majorly..

But yea, the first few posts in this thread got me good.. :clap:

[YarisSedan]

Yeah i noticed that too. This the only car i have owned that dosnt have a timer. Even my POS ford escort i had the button would pop out after some time and would have to press it back in. Eventually it started popping out so much and i pressed it and it pushed into the dash and got lost so never worked again. But still it had a timer when the button was present.

[specialeducator]

I owned a '95 Saturn that also lacked a timer- inexcusable in my opinion.

[Yaris Hilton]

I suspect it doesn't draw as much current as many do. Coming home in heavy snow yesterday, snow piled up on my back window with the rear defogger running continuously, and the front defroster running wide open with the temperature cranked all the way up. Takes a good while to clear light fogging in mild temperatures.

[supmet]

I owned a '95 Saturn that also lacked a timer- inexcusable in my opinion.

Why is it such a big deal? I killed my battery for the first time a few weeks ago from listening to my stereo for too long, but I still haven't had problems with the defroster.. My dad's old camry, my brother's old camry, my old corolla, my dad's sienna and tundra don't have defrost timers.

Kinda just seems like something that would piss me off when my back window wasn't defrosted 20 minutes down the road, or something that I would break like in yarissedan's old car.

[RedRide]

I suspect it doesn't draw as much current as many do. Coming home in heavy snow yesterday, snow piled up on my back window with the rear defogger running continuously, and the front defroster running wide open with the temperature cranked all the way up. Takes a good while to clear light fogging in mild temperatures.

Yeah, if I had to voice one complaint about my Yaris it would be the lack effecientcy for the front and rear defrosters as compared to most other cars I have owned.

[MadMax]

Yeah i noticed that too. This the only car i have owned that dosnt have a timer. Even my POS ford escort i had the button would pop out after some time and would have to press it back in. Eventually it started popping out so much and i pressed it and it pushed into the dash and got lost so never worked again. But still it had a timer when the button was present.

Maybe that is exactly why Toyota didn't put on on the Yaris!

Honestly, I prefer the on/off version, I don't need the complexity of a timer on my rear defrost. I turn it on when the window is fogged up, and I turn it off when it's not. I think I can handle that much responsibility myself!

[djct_watt]

^ at least you HAVE a front defroster. The model in Thailand lacks both front defroster AND heaters (though you will probably never need either here which is probably why they were omitted in the first place)

[rtom]

In the US, which options include the rear window defog/defrost?

If I am reading this right, you have to get the Power Package -- the Convenience Package doesn't include it.

[CTScott]

In the US, which options include the rear window defog/defrost?

If I am reading this right, you have to get the Power Package -- the Convenience Package doesn't include it.

I think it is part of the cold weather package.

[rtom]

Ah, so there's a cold weather package distinct from the all-weather guard package? If so, I'm having trouble finding it at either the Toyota site or eg edmunds.com.

Maybe I should ask someone with a 2010 yaris with just the Convenience package!


Thanks,

Brian


Option Code Option Name and Description
PV Sport Package w/Alloy Wheels
Color-keyed front and underbody spoilers; Side rocker panels; Rear spoiler; Unique 'S' badge; Intergrated front fog lamps; Driver and front passenger sport seats with sport fabric; Leather trimmed steering wheel and shift knob; Power door locks; Power windows with driver's auto-down; Power outside mirrors; AM/FM stereo, CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, satellite radio capability, CD text display function, iPod interface and auto sound leveling; 60/40 split folding rear seat with reclining and sliding functions; 15" alloy wheels; Rear window wiper; Engine immobilizer; Remote keyless entry INCLUDES LF. NOT AVAILABLE with CQ, PP, PQ, PY.
PY Sport Package
Color-keyed front and underbody spoilers; Side rocker panels; Rear spoiler; Unique 'S' badge; Intergrated front fog lamps; Driver and front passenger sport seats with sport fabric; Leather trimmed steering wheel and shift knob; Power door locks; Power windows with driver's auto-down; Power outside mirrors; AM/FM stereo, CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, satellite radio capability, CD text display function, iPod interface and auto sound leveling; 60/40 split folding rear seat with reclining and sliding functions; 15" steel wheels with full wheel covers; Rear window wiper; Engine immobilizer; Remote keyless entry INCLUDES CQ and LF. NOT AVAILABLE with PP, PQ, PV.
PP Power Package w/Alloy Wheels
Power door locks; Power windows with driver's auto-down; Power outside mirrors; AM/FM stereo, CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, satellite radio capability and CD text display function; 60/40 split folding rear seat with reclining and sliding functions; 15" alloy wheels; Rear window wiper; Engine immobilizer; Remote keyless entry NOT AVAILABLE with CQ, PQ, PV, PY.
PQ Power Package
Power door locks; Power windows with driver's auto-down; Power outside mirrors; AM/FM stereo, CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, satellite radio capability and CD text display function; 60/40 split folding rear seat with reclining and sliding functions; 15" steel wheels with full wheel covers; Rear window wiper; Engine immobilizer; Remote keyless entry INCLUDES CQ. NOT AVAILABLE with PP, PV, PY.
CQ Convenience Package
AM/FM stereo, CD player with MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, satellite radio capability and CD text display function; 60/40 fold-flat split rear seat with reclining and sliding functions; 15" steel wheels with full wheel covers; Rear window wiper NOT AVAILABLE with CL, LF, PP, PV.
CL Cruise Control
NOT AVAILABLE with PP, PQ, PV, PY.
LF Integrated Front Fog Lamps
CP All-Weather Guard Package
Larger window washer tank with low-level warning indicator lamp; Heavy-duty heater, Heavy-duty starter; Rear heater duct
-- SET Destination Charge for NC, SC, GA, AL and FL
These charges are required and only applicable to the South East Toyota (SET) regional states: NC, SC, GA, AL and FL.
FE 50 States Emissions
-- SET Administration Fee for NC, SC, GA, AL and FL
These charges are required and only applicable to the South East Toyota (SET) regional states: NC, SC, GA, AL and FL.

[CTScott]

That's the correct name for it - "All weather", not cold weather. It includes the larger wiper reservoir, rear defroster, and rear wiper if memory serves me correct.


Better yet - Right from Toyota.com:

All-Weather Guard Package -- includes larger window washer tank with low-level warning lamp, heavy-duty heater, heavy-duty starter and rear heater duct

And, the rear defroster is shown as standard on all configurations for 2010 in the brochure and as part of the all weather and convenience packages for 09.

[rtom]

That's the correct name for it - "All weather", not cold weather. It includes the larger wiper reservoir, rear defroster, and rear wiper if memory serves me correct.


Better yet - Right from Toyota.com:

All-Weather Guard Package -- includes larger window washer tank with low-level warning lamp, heavy-duty heater, heavy-duty starter and rear heater duct

And, the rear defroster is shown as standard on all configurations for 2010 in the brochure and as part of the all weather and convenience packages for 09.

Thanks Scott!

[Sidicas]

It's been a LONG time since I've seen a car with a rear defogger that turned off automatically.. I think the last car that we had with something like that was a 1983 Chevrolet Celebrity.. And even then, it was annoying because you had to keep turning it back on. Heaven forbid you be in the middle of a huge snow storm and your rear defogger turns off on you.

The Chevy Cavalier, Mercury Sable, and every Saturn car that we've ever owned did not have rear defoggers that turned off automatically.

Anything so important that it could have a huge impact on visibility should NOT have a mind of it's own.. I turn it on, it should stay on until I turn it off..
My $0.02..

[UTVitz]

Honda's Fit is not timered, so we're in good company

[Yaris]

I agree that a timer for the rear defroster could present a safety issue.

[STC]

My last car had a timer. The first time when the car was running it would shut off in 10 minutes. Every subsequent time after... in 5 mintes.

Although, convenient... I really enjoy the simplicity of the Yaris by turning it off manually.

[DebbyM46227]

The Chevy Cavalier, Mercury Sable, and every Saturn car that we've ever owned did not have rear defoggers that turned off automatically.

My 1997 Chevy Cavalier DID have a timer for the rear defroster.

I thought I'd bump this thread up for new Yaris owners. Last week was the first time I had to use my Yaris defroster and I'm disappointed it doesn't have a timer. I didn't bother looking at the manual as it seems to be written by a Japanese person who doesn't translate properly on occasion.

[STC]

My 1997 Chevy Cavalier DID have a timer for the rear defroster.

:smile: I had a 1996 Pontiac Sunfire... pretty much the same as yours.

Cheers!

[Bluevitz-rs]

HAHA, old thread revival, I love it.

Oh and it must be a kick in the pants to know that my '05 echo's rear defogger is timed. It only works for like 30-45 min and shuts off. It's also always off when you start the car.

[.Kevin.]

Mine turns off after 15 minutes.

[KrazyDawg]

Sometimes I find my windows fogging faster when I leave the knobs in the defrost position but I don't have it on.

[brg88tx]

also, has anyone else noticed a couple lines at the top and a line at the bottom don't seem to really work? i have a 07 sedan.

[3dr5speedblk]

Not as good as my Prius!! It doesn't keep ice and snow clear??
All-weather Guard package
larger window washer tank with low-level warning lamp, heavy-duty heater, heavy-duty starter and rear heater duct????
Yeah this was a $70 option on mine code CP.
Its got a heater that will melt your hands off!!

Just give me HEATED SIDE MIRRORS!!! :confused:

[DebbyM46227]

All-weather Guard package
larger window washer tank with low-level warning lamp, heavy-duty heater, heavy-duty starter and rear heater duct????
Yeah this was a $70 option on mine code CP.
Its got a heater that will melt your hands off!!

Just give me HEATED SIDE MIRRORS!!! :confused:

I have the All Weather Package too but I'm not all that impressed with the heater; my 13 year old Cavalier had a better one. It's been just 7 to 8 degrees as a low temp this week and I'm halfway to work (a 25 minute commute) before it gets warm.

[Chuck G]

I have the All Weather Package too but I'm not all that impressed with the heater; my 13 year old Cavalier had a better one. It's been just 7 to 8 degrees as a low temp this week and I'm halfway to work (a 25 minute commute) before it gets warm.

You might want to have it checked out.
Mine feels like it's going to melt the interior!

[DebbyM46227]

Sounds like I do need it checked!

[3dr5speedblk]

Sounds like I do need it checked!

Yeah, you got something wrong!!
The other day I left the Igloo it was 5 above zero, I thought I will just see how long it takes to get heat? No kidding I was to the end of the drive way and it was blowing warm air. this car was sitting outside!!
Maybe the cable on the temp setting not going all the way to hot!!

[KrazyDawg]

Yeah, you got something wrong!!
The other day I left the Igloo it was 5 above zero, I thought I will just see how long it takes to get heat? No kidding I was to the end of the drive way and it was blowing warm air. this car was sitting outside!!
Maybe the cable on the temp setting not going all the way to hot!!
Do you get a lot of heat when you set it to blow at your feet?