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RedRide

02-05-2010, 01:01 PM

Yeah, Toyota will bounce back after all all the smoke clears.

People generally realize that all car maufacutures have troubles on ocasion.Toyota is just way overdue.

Perhaps in the long run, this is a good thing in a way as it wiil make auto manufactures more aware of the hazzards of jumping head long into new technology without more thorough testing.

Yes, I know they test everything now but, they still want to hit the market with something new before the compitition.

I can hear now in board rooms: "Let's test it some more so we don't pull a Toyota".

127.0.0.1

02-05-2010, 01:39 PM

That is not a stock floor mat, and that dealership needs to be talked to (seriously) about putting those floor mats in ANY car. That is why Toyota is having o many issues right now. They probably got some sweet deal on those mat, and that is why they are in there. The stock ones look MUCH different. I will post a pic of one if I can find one (hard to find after recall)

that is just a crappy WalMart mat with the dealership name on it !!!!
yes that dealership should be raked over the coals !!!

[either get a WeatherTech digital fit, or go home.]

Twistoffate0817

02-05-2010, 03:34 PM

I truly believe my Yaris has some issues that need to be resolved. As some may know, I have always felt my yaris had some type of flaw. My Brakes are not stopping my vehicle well enough, and now today I was driving down the road, had a cd in, and it just randomly chaged from the CD to AM radio. It is just all very weird.

MadMax

02-08-2010, 10:30 AM

:bs::bs::bs:

Toyota's once-golden resale value gets dented (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_used_car_value)

CHICAGO – Toyota owners looking to trade in their cars have little reason to sing the carmaker's old ad slogan, "I love what you do for me — Toyota!"

Recalls and a bungled response to safety questions are putting a dent in the resale values of their cars. For years, Toyotas have been praised both for high quality and maintaining their worth. These days, the Toyota in your garage is no longer like money in the bank.

Some dealers are refusing to accept Toyotas for trade, while others are paying considerably less than they did just two week ago. Kelley Blue Book has dropped the value of recalled Toyotas by as much 3 percent. The auto research Web site Edmunds.com estimates resale or trade-in values could fall up to 10 percent in the short term.

The decline will likely continue as long as uncertainty and defects continue to shadow the world's No. 1 carmaker.

Toyota Motor Corp. has so far recalled more than 7 million cars in the U.S., Europe and China over a sticky accelerator and floor mats that can get caught in the gas pedal. Its prized Prius hybrid — which is partially powered by electricity — is under investigation for momentary brake failure. The company is expected to announce its plan for fixing that model this week.

Kelley, which two months ago named Toyota the best brand for resale value, says recalled models are now worth $200 to $500 less per car. Another cut of the same magnitude is planned as soon as the coming week unless the recall controversy abates and demand for Toyotas stops declining, Kelley spokeswoman Robyn Eckard says.

Similarly, since the first recall for sticky accelerator pedals on Jan. 21, Edmunds' estimate for the trade-in value of a 2009 Toyota Camry has fallen by 4 percent to 6 percent to $13,967 while the 2009 Toyota Corolla has declined 6 percent to $11,233.

"My advice to a consumer would be 'If you don't have to trade one in, wait,'" says Michelle Krebs, senior analyst for Edmunds. "Values will stay down for a bit. But Toyota's got really strong brand equity."

The news has unnerved more than a few consumers who had viewed Toyota as a bulletproof brand for quality.

Laura Benin, 34, of New York City chose a 2009 Corolla for her first car purchase a year ago because of Toyota's stellar reputation. Now she's reluctant to drive her car even after the potential acceleration problem is fixed, but knows this is a bad time to try to sell it.

"It's a little bit scary to think the car with the greatest reputation for safety is in the situation it's in now," she says.

Those who are anxious to sell without waiting for a value rebound can turn to the Japanese automaker's rivals. GM, Ford and Chrysler all have announced similar programs that involve offering $1,000 in incentives to Toyota owners who buy their vehicles.

Car dealers are also facing uncertainty.

At River Oaks Chrysler-Jeep in Houston, general manager Alan Helfman told his used car manager to knock 30 to 40 percent of the book value off any recalled Toyotas or Prius hybrids traded in.

"You've got to get them fixed," he said. "You've got to take them in at greatly reduced value."

Chuck Eddy, a Chrysler dealer in Youngstown, Ohio, said he's heard of other dealers refusing to take recalled Toyotas in trade, but said he'll still take them at reduced values.

Two auction houses, where dealers sell trade-ins if they decide not to keep them, have told his dealership that they won't take recalled Toyotas due to legal liability fears. Eddy says customers are nervous about buying Toyotas and the auction houses have further limited his resale options.

Despite the problems, many drivers appear to be sticking with the brand, however uneasily. Leasetrader.com, which acts as matchmaker between buyers and sellers of car leases, says that of several thousand people on a waiting list to take over Toyota leases, fewer than 30 have canceled.

American drivers pushed Toyota's reputation to an unrealistically high level and now a natural adjustment will occur that benefits Ford and General Motors, says John Wolkonowicz, a senior auto analyst for North America at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Mass.

"I don't think Toyotas are going to suddenly become undesirable on the used car market," he says. "It's just that they have been taken down from this lofty position that they couldn't possibly live up to forever."

Jack Fitzgerald, who owns 12 dealerships including two Toyota stores in the Washington, D.C., area, said he would buy every used Toyota he can get because he's confident they will retain their value.

Fitzgerald said the recall concerns are overblown and should pass quickly once Toyota gets the repair parts to dealers.

"I'm buying every one I can get," he said. "I can't wait for the village idiot to dump his Toyota for nothing. I can certainly make money on it."

___

Associated Press Writer Tom Krisher in Detroit contributed to this report.

slothman86

02-08-2010, 10:02 PM

"I'm buying every one I can get," he said. "I can't wait for the village idiot to dump his Toyota for nothing. I can certainly make money on it."

LMAO!

yannis-b

02-09-2010, 07:38 AM

Luckily my car is not affected as it was manufactured after September 09 (there's a look up system on toyota.co.uk). The thing is the media present it as a disaster etc, whereas as mentioned above it didn't even make it to the top-10 of recalls. As for the drop in trade-in prices it's expectable but hey thanks I'll keep my car...

Cutie Pie #2

02-09-2010, 07:01 PM

To add more fuel to the fire: Problems with steering now!
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/company-news/toyota-adds-some-2010-camry-models-to-recall-feds-looking-into/19351106/

b_hickman11

02-09-2010, 09:27 PM

Honda added another recall today. Looks like they were getting jealous of all attention Toyota was getting and they are trying to steal some of the pub.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/09/autos/honda_recall_airbag/index.htm?hpt=T2

why?

02-09-2010, 09:47 PM

at this point i think toyota is making every recall it can think of, figuring it can't hurt their rep any more.

Astroman

02-09-2010, 09:53 PM

Still wouldn't buy a chrysler or GM if you paid me. :biggrin:

eht13

02-09-2010, 11:41 PM

OK, I think it's safe to start calling bullshit on some of these complaints... like people are sitting around thinking of things that could be wrong with Toyotas, and because of the situation everyone takes it seriously. The government and the media are doing nothing to alleviate concerns, and may actually be contributing to them.

127.0.0.1

02-10-2010, 12:29 AM

1NZYaris1

02-10-2010, 02:06 AM

look on the bright side at least Toyota does the recall when the cars are new ..
Unlike Honda's latest recall on 450,000 cars dateing back to 2001
for fualty airbags :eyebulge:

*MAD DOG*

02-10-2010, 03:46 AM

Toyota has finally recalled the Prius here in Australia.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/faulty-brakes-force-prius-recall/1746793.aspx

marcus

02-11-2010, 11:18 AM

*** another update...yesterdays news toronto. heard it on a radio.

some ex employee also revealed a previous toyota cover up on recalls.. this is just killing the TOYOTA reputation.. hope this is a hoax...

Hard_Yaris

02-11-2010, 03:59 PM

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...:eek:
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

nemelek

02-11-2010, 06:00 PM

I have owned a few throw away cars in my life. A 72 Vega good for 80,000 miles and a 78 Ford Courier also good for 80,000 miles. To my knowledge no recalls on them, however, these vehicles should have never been built.

why?

02-11-2010, 07:49 PM

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...:eek:
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

any first gen air bag could have done that to a small enough person in the wrong circumstance.

roxy1

02-11-2010, 08:28 PM

I heard a story about a person getting their HAND BLOWN OFF by an Air Bag...:eek:
I wonder what Vehicle that person was driving?

Honda is the one with the crazy airbags

http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/2010/0210/Honda-recall-airbags-Recall-expands-to-another-438-000-vehicles

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/31/honda.recall/index.html

MadMax

02-12-2010, 09:40 AM

Finally, the truth is being told...

Relatively few complain about Toyota (http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1295/relatively-few-complain-about-toyota/)

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Despite a torrent of high-profile recalls that have tarnished Toyota's once stellar reputation, a study published Wednesday reveals that the automaker actually gets fewer customer complaints per car than the majority of its competitors.

Edmunds.com reviewed more than 200,000 complaints filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) over the last decade and found that Toyota ranked 17th among the top 20 automakers in the overall number of complaints per vehicle sold.

The results come amid a series of recalls totaling more than 8.1 million Toyotas worldwide, including 400,000 of the popular 2010 Prius hybrid for problems associated with sticking brake pedals, software glitches and faulty floormats.

As a result, British carmaker Land Rover had the highest proportion of complaints relative to the number of cars it sold. The company received 0.6% of the total complaints in the database, while its sales amounted to only 0.1% of all new cars sold in the United States.

Meanwhile, Toyota had 9.1% of all the complaints in the database. But the company was number 17 on the list because its sales made up 13.5% of the U.S. market.

According to the study, Toyota had fewer complaints than its American rivals. Ford was number 10 on the list, while General Motors came in at number 11.

The only automakers to receive fewer complaints than Toyota were Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and the Mercedes-made Smart Car.

Among the other automakers that ranked high on the list were Suzuki and Isuzu, which came in at numbers 2 and 3 respectively. German automaker Volkswagen came in at number 4.

The complaints lodged against Toyota ranged from minor problems with lighting to more serious issues such as sudden acceleration and difficulty steering. But the study did not rate the reported incidences for severity.

Edmunds.com said that it found some unreliable reports in the database, including one complaint indicating that 99 people had died in one vehicle as a result of an accident. It also said that about 10% of the complaints appeared to be duplicates.

Quality control: Not just Toyota's problem

While the issues raised by Toyota's recent recalls shouldn't be overlooked, quality control concerns are apparent across the entire automobile industry, said Jeremy Anwyl, Edmunds.com chief executive.

"A broader view shows that consumer complaints reflect an industry issue, not just a Toyota issue," said Anwyl. "It is no longer an option for car companies to dismiss consumer complaints, even if the event is difficult to replicate or diagnose."

Some automakers assume that customer complaints are the result of driver error and not necessarily a reflection of design problems, said Jeannine Fallon, an Edmunds.com analyst.

"It depends on the culture of the car company," she said. "But it's clear now that Toyota has not had very many conversations with NHTSA."

The study was based on the percentage of complaints each automaker received versus the total number of vehicles they sold in the United States between 2001 and 2010.

Of course, we all knew this. It is just nice that some in the press aren't hopping on the hysteria bandwagon...

Cheers! M2

why?

02-12-2010, 09:09 PM

so 99 people died 1 one car in one accident? Hmm, so now we know where all the clowns went.

eric81

02-13-2010, 11:23 PM

Toyota's aren't selling for less, but rather they are simply being fixed at Toyota's expense and selling for the same they were 6 months ago. Amazingly, we haven't really been hurt b this recall, as we still are selling more cars than anyone else on the block. And we have ALL the manufacturers on the block, so no one is excluded. This is not to metion that "Geting the cars fixed" is something that won't cost anyone anything, because Toyota is footing ALL the bills here. Just another way for them to make more money. Want to see a real failed product? Dodge claims the best minivan on the market, with their Dodge Caravan, yet I haven't heard of more than 2 or 3 making it past the 120K mark. The engines keep blowing up. And I am sure plenty of people can back me up on Toyota's longevity. I see more than I care to count over 150K miles, and lately we have even taken several in on trade that are over 200K miles. We are even selling them on the lot, so if anyone is interested in a high mileage Toyota, let me know. I will continue to be a supporter of Toyota, as I was before I started working there, and I will be long afterwards. Heck, even theives know where the money is. Toyota sports 3 of the top 10 vehicles stolen in the US.

eht13

02-17-2010, 10:27 PM

Another potentially stupid investigation... http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/17/autos/toyota_corolla_steering/index.htm?hpt=T2

chew246214

02-17-2010, 11:44 PM

Not to start waves... but Eric we are from the same neck of the woods, and I used to before I moved actually sell your coworkers parts for their dodge/jeep vehicles. I have to disagree with you on the caravan thing... they do last just like any other car out there and I know a ton that went well over 120,000 miles... and some over 300,000 mark, rare to see them at the dealership with that milage but once in awhile.... they might not be the prettiest thingsout there but they do work great as a minivan.... a 3.3 with the trans especially after 2000 are the most solid drivetrain you can get in them. make it a short wheelbase without rear a/c and not much to fix on them front shock mounts and swaybar bushings are the most common complaints on them. might not be pretty but will run with the best of them. And who could beat the price, like any other american brand they don't hold their value so you can pick up a used one cheap... Working for dodge I bought a new one fully loaded except leather for 13,500 that was in 2007.. can't go wrong there. still have her and running strong not one problem yet....

Hershey

02-18-2010, 12:24 AM

not stupid . We test drove an '09 COROLLA and the steering was one of the reasons why we went with the YARIS . The COROLLA seemed to wander ( lose ) on the interstate during the drive . The YARIS more tight . Someone we know that has an '09 says her steering seems awkward . Not sure if the electronic steering in the COROLLA is set up different than that of the YARIS . Programming ? Parts ? The 2 YARIS we have are quite tight and responsive . Like the ride of the YARIS better . The COROLLA had more engine noise too . Maybe due to the 5w-20 motor oil that's now used in the newly designed 1.8 ltr. motor for the '09 and 2010 COROLLAs . The new engine STEERED us away from the COROLLA as well .

chew246214

02-18-2010, 12:31 AM

I have to say sorry to eric, I thought you were somebody else I was never from CO. northern NJ now in RI.... sorry I mixed you up... but I still do believe in caravans......

slothman86

02-18-2010, 01:22 AM

This is getting plain stupid. Hopefully the FT-86 saves toyotas ass

eht13

02-22-2010, 02:12 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/21/autos/toyota_document/index.htm?postversion=2010022208

127.0.0.1

02-22-2010, 02:23 PM

This is getting plain stupid. Hopefully the FT-86 saves toyotas ass

lol wut ? specialty cars always lose money

the Corolla made more money for Toyota than any other car
has made for any car manufacturer...ever.

auxmike

02-22-2010, 08:07 PM

+1.
I really like the new design "S" Corollas. I would not hesitate to buy one, but I'm broke!:bellyroll:

roxy1

02-23-2010, 09:17 AM

my Corolla gave me almost everything i wanted moving up from the yaris. a quieter engine, less road noise, smoother ride, much smoother shifting in the manual, BUT...

...any wandering the yaris did was due to its weight and tall profile in the wind, not the steering so much.

toyota, imo, never got the eps right in the corolla. now that it is being looked at, i am one who would be happy if toyota was prompted to find some kind of adjustment to the eps that would improve it.

yaris-me

02-23-2010, 12:15 PM

Seems scary, if it happens to you.:eek:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/129681/abc-world-news-with-diane-sawyer-new-cause-cited-for-runaway-toyotas

Slick

02-23-2010, 12:41 PM

I dont believe toyota intended for someone to hack into the computer and foricibly cause a short. I smell some bs. Im sure you could short things in other vehicles that were not intended to be shorted and cause all kinds of problems.

Kioshi

02-23-2010, 01:15 PM

My dad drives his 90' Toyota Camry everyday to work (he's owned a 86 Camry, 90' Camry current, 1998 Camry), commuting 30 miles each way, rain, shine, wind, etc....has never...RAN AWAY....

I drive my friends 05 Toyota Corolla S, he drives hard, i baby it going to Tahoe and everywhere...it hasn't escaped from him, has it? 60k + miles...still running like a beast.

Toyota wouldn't screw people over...why, after such a long period of time?

F- the media and GM...i drive a Japanese, more importantly, a Toyota...not touching anything other than a Japanese or...German (Audi).

There should be some guidelines set on posting any more recall threads on here~ It seems like people are sinking themselves more and more into this subject than any other subject they took in college...lol

Tamago

02-23-2010, 01:22 PM

Kioshi

02-23-2010, 02:38 PM

he's confirmed of no such thing on his Yaris haha. Rock my world Toyota ^_^

enviri

02-23-2010, 10:49 PM

watch the tuesday hearing from cspan3, i found around 70-80min mark pretty amusing :)

part1: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/id/219998

part2: http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/292221-2

sean kane/buyer fight is awesome @170

yaris2010RS

02-24-2010, 12:11 AM

wow......is this for real?

Hershey

02-24-2010, 12:39 AM

Toyota wouldn't screw people over...why, after such a long period of time? To overtake G.M. as worldwide leader . Get too big for your britches syndrome :wink: . Get tainted by the mighty $ :frown: .

yaris2010RS

02-24-2010, 12:53 AM

still watching the video..... watch around 110-130

Hershey

02-24-2010, 12:59 AM

take a peek at this from ABC's NIGHTLINE about computer glitch : http://abcnews.go.com/NIGHTLINE and click on AUTO PROFESSOR PINPOINTS POSSIBLE CAR FLAW . If it's made and programmed by a human there's room for error . TOYOTA is run by people , so greed :evil: takes over right from wrong and the power goes to their heads . :bow: . If this turns out worse and it impacts the TRADE IN VALUE even more for all TOYOTAs including the YARIS we'll be p*ssed :mad: like so many others . That's one of the many reasons why we and others buy TOYOTA .

yaris2010RS

02-24-2010, 01:20 AM

not gonna lie.... after hearing everything (and personally thinking since the start of this) it has to do with something with the DBW...... i am very confident in that.
am i worried?
no
will i buy another toyota?
YES
will i make a false claim to toyota or anyone jsut because toyota is so weak and i can?
NO
and many people need to think about this. yes, its made by humans, yes its possible to fail (bu really even if it were made by robots which were made by humans it still could fail)
is it a serious issue?
HELL YEAH!! but toyota is finally getting its share of issues. i do personally believe toyota is being great on this, they are bringing in and checking almost any car possible but at the same time, i think they are hiding a few things and they still arn't exactly sure what the issue is.....

jsut my $0.02

enviri

02-24-2010, 01:35 AM

i found part 2 lol.

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/292221-2

I find this hearing a little amusing. especially the last few minutes of part 1.

yaris2010RS

02-24-2010, 02:08 AM

this isn't good....... its 1:03 am, i'm watching part 1 of the hearing (ha, i had already found part 2 and about to watch it) and i'm suspost to be working on an english assignment due at 9am today.....

nvm the groups "i was doing homeowrk and ended up on facebook"

i was doing homeowkr and ended up on yarisworld.com :p

yaris2010RS

02-24-2010, 02:10 AM

lol, and part 2 is in the original post (post number #307)

and part 2, the beeginning sound is all messed up

Hershey

02-24-2010, 02:13 AM

have to admit TOYOTA has had its problems as of lately . TUNDRA frame rot , weak spot in FJ CRUISER frame , etc.. Just ain't what they used to be . Gotta put partial blame on TOYO service centers as well . Not all like to listen or look to hard at problem . Say stuff like " seems fine to me " or " must be something you did " or " don't hear it " , etc. . Could go into those issues with more details , but won't . Starts at the bottom all the way to the top .

Hershey

02-24-2010, 02:16 AM

better get crackin' the whip if wanna become lawyer for TOYOTA . :biggrin:

Yar Is Word

02-24-2010, 03:28 AM

An interesting article here including the comments which follow:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/23/abc-news-report-shouldnt-panic-toyota-drivers/#continued

RacerFreakXXX

02-24-2010, 09:14 PM

I personally don't believe there is an issue with toyota pedals sticking. Pedals stick in every car when they brake or rust, it's normal for all cars and you don't see any of those cars with recalls.

I think people are just using this as a scapegoat, there are recalls on all makes and models of every car. It's an easy way to get out of a ticket or a good story so someone doesn't look like they are driving recklessly. Rust is normal in bad weather where salt is used or area's close to shore. I do believe they may have issues with the ecu programming for brakes or whatever.

People don't realize ALL cars have problems.

Subaru right now has issues with the ECM that are destroying the cars CAT & lets not forget the head gasket problem. Nissan has issues were some of the engines are breaking. Honda had that issue with the airbags shooting shrap metal. The list goes on and on.

slothman86

02-24-2010, 09:22 PM

http://auto-recalls.justia.com/

I'll just leave this here...

RacerFreakXXX

02-24-2010, 09:40 PM

http://auto-recalls.justia.com/

I'll just leave this here...

for you who don't want to click :thumbsup:

* Acura (228) (RSS)
* Aston Martin (35) (RSS)
* Audi (409) (RSS)
* Bentley (202) (RSS)
* BMW (1044) (RSS)
* Buick (765) (RSS)
* Cadillac (518) (RSS)
* Chevrolet (3524) (RSS)
* Chrysler (661) (RSS)
* Daewoo (81) (RSS)
* Dodge (2599) (RSS)
* Ferrari (140) (RSS)
* Ford (4757) (RSS)
* GMC (2745) (RSS)
* Honda (1019) (RSS)
* Hummer (38) (RSS)
* Hyundai (254) (RSS)
* Infiniti (100) (RSS)
* Isuzu (236) (RSS)
* Jaguar (296) (RSS)
* Jeep (754) (RSS)
* Kia (103) (RSS)
* Lamborghini (10) (RSS)
* Land Rover (176) (RSS)
* Lexus (164) (RSS)
* Lincoln (207) (RSS)
* Lotus (47) (RSS)
* Maserati (19) (RSS)
* Mazda (431) (RSS)
* Mercedes Benz (492) (RSS)
* Mercury (781) (RSS)
* Mini (18) (RSS)
* Mitsubishi (991) (RSS)
* Nissan (920) (RSS)
* Oldsmobile (578) (RSS)
* Pontiac (928) (RSS)
* Porsche (225) (RSS)
* Rolls-Royce (232) (RSS)
* Saab (202) (RSS)
* Saturn (230) (RSS)
* Subaru (279) (RSS)
* Suzuki (269) (RSS)
* Toyota (669) (RSS)
* Volkswagen (680) (RSS)
* Volvo (1579) (RSS)

RED = More recalls than Toyota

slothman86

02-24-2010, 10:35 PM

for you who don't want to click :thumbsup:

* Acura (228) (RSS)
* Aston Martin (35) (RSS)
* Audi (409) (RSS)
* Bentley (202) (RSS)
* BMW (1044) (RSS)
* Buick (765) (RSS) :redface:
* Cadillac (518) (RSS) :redface:
* Chevrolet (3524) (RSS) :redface:
* Chrysler (661) (RSS)
* Daewoo (81) (RSS)
* Dodge (2599) (RSS)
* Ferrari (140) (RSS)
* Ford (4757) (RSS)
* GMC (2745) (RSS) :redface:
* Honda (1019) (RSS)
* Hummer (38) (RSS) :redface:
* Hyundai (254) (RSS)
* Infiniti (100) (RSS)
* Isuzu (236) (RSS):smile:
* Jaguar (296) (RSS)
* Jeep (754) (RSS)
* Kia (103) (RSS)
* Lamborghini (10) (RSS)
* Land Rover (176) (RSS)
* Lexus (164) (RSS):smile:
* Lincoln (207) (RSS)
* Lotus (47) (RSS)
* Maserati (19) (RSS)
* Mazda (431) (RSS)
* Mercedes Benz (492) (RSS)
* Mercury (781) (RSS)
* Mini (18) (RSS)
* Mitsubishi (991) (RSS)
* Nissan (920) (RSS)
* Oldsmobile (578) (RSS) :redface:
* Pontiac (928) (RSS) :redface:
* Porsche (225) (RSS)
* Rolls-Royce (232) (RSS)
* Saab (202) (RSS)
* Saturn (230) (RSS)
* Subaru (279) (RSS)
* Suzuki (269) (RSS)
* Toyota (669) (RSS):smile:
* Volkswagen (680) (RSS)
* Volvo (1579) (RSS)

RED = More recalls than Toyota

:redface: GM Related
:smile:Toyota Related

Hershey

02-25-2010, 12:23 AM

part of problem was that TOYOTA couldn't keep up with demand during the spike in gas prices around the globe few years back . Was nearly impossible to get a COROLLA , YARIS , and especially the PRIUS . Thus more errors are likely . Even if made in JAPAN ( YARIS , PRIUS ) .

advocate

02-25-2010, 02:13 AM

The way that stupid woman ignorantly attacked Toyota made me want to punch her in the face.

How do you get off on bashing one of the world's best car manufacturers and asking retardedly impossible questions like, "Will the Camry hybrid ever have a recall?"

Not to mention the poor guy came all the way from Japan, when it wasn't necessary, and all he's getting are pointed questions and finger pointing accusations when the company is clearly spending boat loads of cash to fix this problem. And like Toyota is the only company to have ever made a car that killed someone by accident.

This is so unbelievably biased I think I'm going to be sick. I'm embarrassed to be American right now.

yaris2010RS

02-25-2010, 10:28 AM

okay, so its officially gone off the wall. today on the radio i heard about the head toyota guy saying once again he was very sorry for all this and he knows toyota needs to work to regain the peoples trust. someone (a big shot government person) said its too late to say sorry and he is gonna have to do alot more then say sorry. they also said toyota hasn't been taking this seriously nor doing the right actions

WTF!! toyota is everything to the best they can. toyota went to the safety board with this problem and they were told it wasn't a neccessary recall but toyota did it anyways.

after this was said on the radio, followed a new recall by dodge for a minivan. the issue in about 400,000 vans is the AIR BAG SENSOR GETS MESSED UP AND WILL NOT DEPLOY IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH. a van trusted by 400,000 families to carry 7 ppl to soccer and it doesn't have air bags? this is a bigger deal! this is the part i like, dodge will not be fixing the part till end of june...... FAIL!!

Kioshi

02-25-2010, 03:31 PM

If they stop selling Toyota cars in America, I'm moving to Japan somehow...or any overseas country not as arrogant as the USA~

chew246214

02-25-2010, 06:06 PM

Funny part is that recall on the caravan has been going on for over 3 years.... they first tried changing the wiring, and if corrosion was present the sensors were changed also.... I sold a ton of them...... only takes 15 minutes to do.....

Hershey

02-26-2010, 10:26 PM

go here if curious , www.cbsatlanta.com/news/22674572/detail.html . Wonder if the gas pedal had already been replaced under the recall . If so , could mean electronics . :iono:

slothman86

02-26-2010, 10:49 PM

She had her foot on the brake the whole time...or the accelerator...

eht13

02-26-2010, 11:21 PM

She had her foot on the brake the whole time...or the accelerator...

Yeah, it was definitely one of those two damn pedals. :laugh:

roxy1

02-27-2010, 12:58 PM

an accelerator sticking is one thing, but acceleration without pushing the pedal at all? i think some drivers that made colossal mistakes (ie pushing the accelerator thinking its the brake) have a very convenient excuse now.

slothman86

02-27-2010, 02:18 PM

eht13

03-01-2010, 12:11 PM

Public perception as relayed by a CNNMoney (unscientific) online quick vote:

markitect

03-01-2010, 01:21 PM

go here if curious , www.cbsatlanta.com/news/22674572/detail.html . Wonder if the gas pedal had already been replaced under the recall . If so , could mean electronics . :iono:

Or has an awesome excuse for pushing the wrong pedal, falling asleep at the wheel or any number of driver-related explanations. Actually my fiance rear-ending someone with the Yaris must have been unintended acceleration, not the big patch of black ice.

eht13

03-01-2010, 01:30 PM

^ Yup.

Yaris#2

03-01-2010, 08:51 PM

GM dealer by me has a billboard that reads" OUR PEDALS DON'T STICK"....

Yeah, but Toyota didn't need to have the government's help to stay alive either!

devinlamothe

03-01-2010, 08:55 PM

Most new cars have 'black boxes' that show whether or not you were pressing on the gas or brake pedal at the time the air bags deployed. Shouldn't they be checking these to make sure?

yaris2010RS

03-02-2010, 11:58 AM

Most new cars have 'black boxes' that show whether or not you were pressing on the gas or brake pedal at the time the air bags deployed. Shouldn't they be checking these to make sure?

i agree, but imo if the computer thinks its at wide open throttle it will save in the black box that the accelerator was depressed......

markitect

03-02-2010, 12:07 PM

I think the real question is was the brake pressed as well

RedRide

03-02-2010, 12:20 PM

Having watched the entire congresional hearings the other day.....

It appears that the reason the American pedals are causing a problem is that Toyota was using two different designs for the pedals in question.

It never was a defect in manufacturing in the American pedals as we were led to believe at first. It was/is a design problem. All Toyots is now doing if installing the pedal design that is not causing problems.

JBougie

03-03-2010, 02:14 AM

No matter what our shit government does to try and trash them; I will always love my Toyota.

I really wish I could take advantage of that 60 month 0% interest and get a new car right now, because I would do it in a heart beat - their little recall doesn't bother me. It's a machine, they can't be perfect all the time. I'd take a pedal-sticking Toyota over a POS domestic 50k-and-their-dead any day.

I wish I could apologize to Akio Toyoda for the absolute sorry excuse for hospitality we showed him while he was here. If I was him I would want to pull my entire business from this country; thankfully I think he knows that there are plenty of us who absolutely love ours cars too much to care what the media hype is saying :)

RedRide

03-03-2010, 03:18 AM

This is not a media or US government driven issue!
Over 56 people were killed due to a design defefect in gas pedals.

Toyota knew about this some time ago and slowly started to phase them out.
Even though people were getting killed, Toyota was still draging ther feet over this due to economic reasons.

Howver, the crap hit the fan and they are now saying they are sorry which is so much PR and damage control resulting from corporate greed.

Yeah, I have two Toyotas and like boh of them but I have lost respect for Toyota as a corporation.

127.0.0.1

03-03-2010, 08:36 AM

markitect

03-03-2010, 10:41 AM

Also the number of deaths 'linked' to the recall have suddenly doubled in the last month, that's either a really good cover up on Toyota's part, or really bad number padding on the US government's part.

Kongo-Otto

03-03-2010, 11:00 AM

My gas pedal is being modified right now. I am getting my car back at 6 PM here. The mechanic told me he never heard of any accident related to this "problem" in Germany. :iono:

RedRide

03-03-2010, 11:48 AM

Dear Mr. Shortsighted:

you really need to examine the statistics of all automotive related deaths. you would lose respect for EVERY auto manufacturer.

That is a nonsensica statement

You need to get the facts before you appear too ignorant.

Too many Toyota fanboys are comming out of the woodwork and putting Toyota on a pedestal oblivious to the fact that Toyota is a corporation driven largely by greed just like any other corporation.

RedRide

03-03-2010, 11:52 AM

My gas pedal is being modified right now. I am getting my car back at 6 PM here. The mechanic told me he never heard of any accident related to this "problem" in Germany. :iono:

That may well be that toyata used the pedal design in Germany that did not have problems . It should be understood the the two pedals are interchangeable.

Kongo-Otto

03-03-2010, 11:55 AM

That may well be that toyata used the pedal design in Germany that did not have problems . It should be understood the the two pedals are interchangeable.

It is a pedal from CTS, thats all i know.

127.0.0.1

03-03-2010, 11:58 AM

That is a nonsensica statement

You need to get the facts before you appear too ignorant.

Too many Toyota fanboys are comming out of the woodwork and putting Toyota on a pedestal oblivious to the fact that Toyota is a corporation driven largely by greed just like any other corporation.

the bottom line is: you put an idiot in a car, they will find a way to kill themselves or others.

Toyota is the best at making cars that last, and start up and work, with minimal downtime.

I never said anything about Toyota not being a corporation dirven by profits. That is not relevant whatsoever. name one well-known corporation that is not driven by profit. it doesn't matter.

all global auto manufacturers have had cars with defects that have killed people. all of them. all of them have had recalls.

fact remains, if you want a car that will most likely start every time, and with sub-assemblies that do not break for no apparent reason... Toyota is, and will remain, the best bang for your buck. They are #1 for a reason...they do not produce crap as a rule. errors happen yes. errors happen everywhere.

it is probability. and the 'probability' of 'problems' with Toyota is in favor of the Toyota owner.

RedRide

03-03-2010, 02:11 PM

Did I not say that I do like my two Toyotas?

Kongo-Otto

03-03-2010, 02:39 PM

I got my car back. I cant notice any difference with the pedal. Everything is fine (like it was before).

fmicle

03-03-2010, 07:12 PM

So 56 people died because of pedal related problems in Toyota. 21,000 people die every year in the US in car crashes... Just to put things in perspective. Driving a car is a dangerous thing...

why?

03-03-2010, 10:16 PM

oh no, 56 people died of stupidity, good. Let darwin's ideas run its course.

No matter what our shit government does to try and trash them; I will always love my Toyota.

I really wish I could take advantage of that 60 month 0% interest and get a new car right now, because I would do it in a heart beat - their little recall doesn't bother me. It's a machine, they can't be perfect all the time. I'd take a pedal-sticking Toyota over a POS domestic 50k-and-their-dead any day.

I wish I could apologize to Akio Toyoda for the absolute sorry excuse for hospitality we showed him while he was here. If I was him I would want to pull my entire business from this country; thankfully I think he knows that there are plenty of us who absolutely love ours cars too much to care what the media hype is saying :)

do not fear, japan has the last laugh, since China just sold some of our debt, Japan now is the #1 holder. You bet the Japanese government will be holding that over the fools heads quite quickly.

Hershey

03-04-2010, 01:43 AM

that's cold :thumbdown: .

why?

03-04-2010, 05:15 PM

but true. you could easily blame our government and how easy it is to get a license in this country. If you needed $5,000 or more and a few years of drivers ed to get a license, stupid crap like that would not happen. C&D did an article that basically showed how even with the engine at full roar, stepping on the brakes will stop the car, and not in that much further a distance than without the engine going crazy.

Driving is taken far too lightly in this country, and that is our biggest problem.

127.0.0.1

03-04-2010, 05:28 PM

oh no, 56 people died of stupidity, good. Let darwin's ideas run its course.

do not fear, japan has the last laugh, since China just sold some of our debt, Japan now is the #1 holder. You bet the Japanese government will be holding that over the fools heads quite quickly.

wrong

us federal reserve and us banks are the #1 and #2 holders. japan is #3.

try again

Hershey

03-05-2010, 12:25 AM

blame it on no student left behind :wink: . Seen where drivers ed is becoming a thing of the past in schools today . I enjoyed it back in the 70's .

sbergman27

03-05-2010, 01:32 AM

So 56 people died because of pedal related problems in Toyota. 21,000 people die every year in the US in car crashes... Just to put things in perspective

The vast majority of spontaneous acceleration complaints turn out to be, upon investigation, the driver panicking and stomping the wrong pedal. That said, all auto manufacturers have spontaneous acceleration complaints. Toyota does, according to one source, currently have the highest incidence, at 12 per 312,000 vehicles produced. But Ford has 8. And the others currently have lower but similar numbers. Why 12 per 312,000 is a crisis warranting Congressional investigation, while 8 per 312,000 is no problem at all, is left as an exercise for the reader. Of course, another data source puts Volkswagen's incidence far higher than anyone else's, including Toyota..

Here are the facts:

http://tinyurl.com/ybbjowr

http://tinyurl.com/ydknwme

I often find myself embarrassed of, and even despising my native country these days. But then historically, superpowers in decline have always been this way, going all the way back to 4th century Rome.

-Steve

Kal-El

03-05-2010, 08:20 AM

The vast majority of spontaneous acceleration complaints turn out to be, upon investigation, the driver panicking and stomping the wrong pedal. That said, all auto manufacturers have spontaneous acceleration complaints. Toyota does, according to one source, currently have the highest incidence, at 12 per 312,000 vehicles produced. But Ford has 8. And the others currently have lower but similar numbers. Why 12 per 312,000 is a crisis warranting Congressional investigation, while 8 per 312,000 is no problem at all, is left as an exercise for the reader. Of course, another data source puts Volkswagen's incidence far higher than anyone else's, including Toyota..

Here are the facts:

http://tinyurl.com/ybbjowr

http://tinyurl.com/ydknwme

I often find myself embarrassed of, and even despising my native country these days. But then historically, superpowers in decline have always been this way, going all the way back to 4th century Rome.

-Steve

Excellent info, thanks :thumbsup:

How much you want to bet that the media will never reports the facts?

They always go after the biggest. Just like McDonald's is the only one to blame for selling junk food. :rolleyes: ALL restaurants serve junk food!! But McDonald's is the biggest so past attacks have always been on them while Burger King, Wendy's, ect. were left alone.

jclo3313

03-05-2010, 08:40 AM

thanks sbergman27

seanele

03-08-2010, 05:06 PM

Kal-El

03-08-2010, 05:44 PM

..couple of years ago, people at my work said yaris is the worst of all Toyota product for USA.
last week, one of them asking info of the dealer who sold the yaris to me, plan to buy one for her kid.

PS: i still think Toyota owe USA a lot of explanation!

What explanation? About unintended acceleration? Toyota is average for complaints regarding unintended acceleration. Companies such as VW have a much higher complaint rate but the media doesn't go after them because they're small. Toyota is expected to be perfect and now something may be wrong and there's a firestorm.

why?

03-08-2010, 06:03 PM

this media firestorm has been created to hurt toyota in the us, while allowing GM and Chrysler to capitalize and try to actually sell a few vehicles.

TwoBearWisconsin

03-08-2010, 06:13 PM

To lighten things up a bit, have you all seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qx5abI9IqU

auxmike

03-08-2010, 06:29 PM

Here's a very good detailed short video showing the shim being installed on the gas pedal at a dealer.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAtTqbYtX9s&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Hershey

03-09-2010, 12:22 AM

don't forget there are recalls by TOYOTA all over the globe . Including the YARIS accelerator pedal . Always a conspiracy :rolleyes: . So many radicals ( extremists ) . O.C.D. is the likely culprit :wink: . It's a car , not a GOD :bow: . :biggrin:

DevilGirl

03-09-2010, 08:26 AM

Not just Toyota is having these recalls. Sitting in the doc's waiting room last week, heard on the news that Nissan is having a rather large recall of a good number of their vehicles for similar issues. But you don't see them plastered all over the news like Toyota has been.

Every company will have recalls. No one is perfect. Toyota's just been overdue for one, that's all.

Mouse

03-09-2010, 06:30 PM

I just found this on a Prius forum....http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,682417,00.html

Copied directly from the article....."No other country in the world has comparable problems with cars accelerating on their own. In the US, though, "sudden unintended acceleration" is a mass phenomenon. It has become the topic of various nonfiction books and online self-help groups -- indicators to those affected that they aren't alone."

Yaristoo

03-10-2010, 02:12 PM

I've had my Yaris for about 3.5 years. They recalled it on the floor mat thing, but never had any problem. I've never had any problem at all with my car. Its performance has been excellent. It has that symbol that tells you when it has warmed up. It doesn't accelerate perfectly until it warms up, then it runs smooth. It always seemed that it wasn't warmed up, so it seemed fine.

I heard there was a recall of Yaris' in Europe. As long as they are in Europe it doesn't bother me because I'm sure that the cars going to Europe are different than the ones coming here. As long as there is no concern over the Yaris as far as acceleration, I don't see why we should worry.

It's the best deal in the Toyota world. It's an inexpensive car with the best fuel efficiency without being a hybrid. You wouldn't get your money's worth with a hybrid. I've been extremely happy with my Yaris.:drool:

Twistoffate0817

03-10-2010, 03:49 PM

They recalled your yaris for the floor mats?

Tamago

03-10-2010, 04:38 PM

the yaris should be recalled for not accelerating FAST enough IMO

hehe

tomato

03-10-2010, 04:43 PM

the yaris should be recalled for not accelerating FAST enough IMO

hehe

Hahaha!! OK that works for me!! :clap::thumbsup::headbang:

BLAZINBLUEVITZ

03-10-2010, 04:48 PM

They recalled it on the floor mat thing, but never had any problem.

They recalled your yaris for the floor mats?

WHERE'S my floor mat recall letter????:iono:

Kal-El

03-10-2010, 05:01 PM

The Yaris has NOT been recalled.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ

03-10-2010, 05:27 PM

The Yaris has NOT been recalled.

:w00t: WE know that but certain others on here are clueless to this fact....

roxy1

03-10-2010, 06:33 PM

The Yaris has NOT been recalled.

sure it has. just not this year.:biggrin:

why?

03-10-2010, 09:41 PM

Hahaha!! OK that works for me!! :clap::thumbsup::headbang:

the solution is toyota must install a turbo on every single yaris. A nice low pressure turbo to increase fe and hp.:thumbup:

Yaristoo

03-11-2010, 02:54 PM

Yes, they recalled it on the floor mat thing and when they did I thought nothing of it. I was having no problems at all. They just did a minor thing when I brought it in for an oil change. As far as I was concerned, it was un-necessary, since I use another floor mat on top of the regular one which could cause far worse trouble, but it never does. This is in Minnesota - it may vary from state to state.

I wanted to mention my Toyota dealer. I can't imagine being treated any better than I have been by them. I've even gotten birthday cards. And this is for buying their cheapest model.

Oh - you've seen the latest story on the Prius in San Diego? There is talk now that it's a hoax. I'm beginning to think so. Everyone over-reacts. Go to Michael Fumento.com to read his take on this. He has some insight.:thumbup:

MadMax

03-11-2010, 09:48 PM

A friend of mine sent this to me, it is spot on! :thumbsup:

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/funny-graphs-toyota-acceleration.jpg

Cheers! M2

MadMax

03-11-2010, 09:52 PM

Oh, and concerning the :bs: incident that occurred with the Prius in California...those fools are acting like this is HAL 9000 taking over the car! :eyebulge:

As we all know, there are ways to stop a car in such an emergency situation; but I decided to find out what those who actually drive a Prius think and found this:

How to Stop A Runaway Pruis (http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-prius-main-forum/77458-how-stop-runaway-prius.html)

HOW TO STOP OF RUNAWAY PRIUS: SUMMARY OF INFO FROM THIS THREAD!

1) Put the car into Neutral. You have to HOLD down the neutral for at least a little while and not just tap into into neutral.

2) You can also press the "P" button. This will also put the car into Neutral if the car is moving and the accelerator is down.

3) If 1 and 2 fail, try hitting the power button for a prolonged period of time (seconds). Keep in mind that you will lose power steering when the car shuts down.

By the way, I got quite a chuckle out of response #6...

Replace Toyota logo with GM one. And will not run away anymore http://priuschat.com/forums/images/smilies/cheer2.gif

But overall, most lambasted Sikes for not knowing what to do in such a situation. Even the most obvious of actions would have corrected the situation, but he failed miserably. What a moron! I hope it is discovered that this too was a hoax, just like balloon boy! :bonk:

auxmike

03-11-2010, 09:59 PM

Wow, I was'nt aware that the "shifter" in a prius is buttons?
That sucks...:iono:

Kal-El

03-11-2010, 11:56 PM

Here's a great article....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/opinion/11schmidt.html

By RICHARD A. SCHMIDT
Published: March 10, 2010

Marina del Rey, Calif.

THE Obama administration has said that it may require automakers to install “smart pedals” on all new cars. This kind of system — already used in BMWs, Chryslers, Volkswagens and some of the newest Toyotas — deactivates the car’s accelerator when the brake pedal is pressed so that the car can stop safely even if its throttle sticks open.

The idea is to prevent the kind of sudden acceleration that has recently led to the recall of millions of Toyotas. Federal safety regulators have received complaints asserting that this problem has caused accidents resulting in 52 deaths in Toyotas since 2000. Smart pedals might help prevent more such accidents if the cause of unintended acceleration turns out to be some vehicle defect.

But based on my experience in the 1980s helping investigate unintended acceleration in the Audi 5000, I suspect that smart pedals cannot solve the problem. The trouble, unbelievable as it may seem, is that sudden acceleration is very often caused by drivers who press the gas pedal when they intend to press the brake.

From the mid-1980s until 2000, thousands of incidents of sudden acceleration were reported in all makes and models of cars (and buses, tractors and golf carts). Then, as now, the incidents were relatively rare among car crashes generally, but they were nevertheless frequent and dangerous enough to upset automakers, drivers and the news media.

I looked into more than 150 cases of unintended acceleration in the 1980s, many of which became the subject of lawsuits against automakers. In those days, Audi, like Toyota today, received by far the most complaints. (I testified in court for Audi on many occasions. I have not worked for Toyota on unintended acceleration, though I did consult for the company seven years ago on another matter.)

In these cases, the problem typically happened when the driver first got into the car and started it. After turning on the ignition, the driver would intend to press lightly on the brake pedal while shifting from park to drive (or reverse), and suddenly the car would leap forward (or backward). Drivers said that continued pressing on the brake would not stop the car; it would keep going until it crashed. Drivers believed that something had gone wrong in the acceleration system, and that the brakes had failed.

But when engineers examined these vehicles post-crash, they found nothing that could account for what the drivers had reported. The trouble occurred in cars small and large, cheap and expensive, with and without cruise control or electronic engine controls, and with carburetors, fuel injection and even diesel engines. The only thing they had in common was an automatic transmission. An investigation by the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration found no electro-mechanical defects to explain the problem. Nor did similar government studies in Canada and Japan or any number of private studies.

In the Toyota situation today, some have suggested that unintended acceleration has been caused by floor mats or sticking throttles, but there is considerable doubt about these explanations, and the search for the smoking gun continues. One thought is that computerized engine management systems or electronic controls may be to blame. And so it is interesting to note that unintended acceleration in the 1980s happened before the arrival of drive-by-wire controls and computerized engine-management systems.

Back then, many of us who worked in fields like ergonomics, human performance and psychology suspected that these unintended-acceleration events might have a human component. We noticed that the complaints were far more frequent among older drivers (in a General Motors study, 60-to-70-year-olds had about six times the rate of complaints as 20-to-30-year-olds), drivers who had little experience with the specific car involved (parking-lot attendants, car-wash workers, rental-car patrons) and people of relatively short stature.

Several researchers hypothesized how a driver, intending to apply the brake pedal to keep the car from creeping, would occasionally press the accelerator instead. Then, surprised that the car moved so much, he would try pressing harder. Of course, if his right foot was actually on the accelerator, the throttle would open and the car would move faster. This would then lead the driver to press the “brake” harder still, and to bring about even more acceleration. Eventually, the car would be at full throttle, until it crashed. The driver’s foot would be all the way to the floor, giving him the impression that the brakes had failed.

In the cases that went to court, jurors naturally asked, why would a driver with decades of driving experience suddenly mistake the accelerator for the brake? And why would the episode last so long — often 6 to 10 seconds or more? Wouldn’t that be ample time to shut off the ignition, shift to neutral or engage the parking brake?

First, in these situations, the driver does not really confuse the accelerator and the brake. Rather, the limbs do not do exactly what the brain tells them to. Noisy neuromuscular processes intervene to make the action slightly different from the one intended. The driver intends to press the brake, but once in a while these neuromuscular processes cause the foot to deviate from the intended trajectory — just as a basketball player who makes 90 percent of his free throws sometimes misses the hoop. This effect would be enhanced by the driver being slightly misaligned in the seat when he first gets in the car.

The answer to the second question is that, when a car accelerates unexpectedly, the driver often panics, and just presses the brake harder and harder. Drivers typically do not shut off the ignition, shift to neutral or apply the parking brake.

In 1989, the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration concluded that the incidents of unintended acceleration by the Audi 5000 were mostly caused by this kind of pedal error — not some electro-mechanical defect in the vehicle. To fix the problem, Audi designed something called an automatic shift lock, which, when the car is being started, keeps the transmission in park unless and until the brake pedal is depressed. If the driver should press the accelerator instead of the brake, the vehicle remains safely in park.

(In a car with a manual transmission, a driver is naturally prevented from making a simple pedal error, because even if his right foot goes to the accelerator instead of the brake, the car still will not move unless he also intentionally lifts his left foot from the clutch.)

Audi ultimately gave the world’s other automakers the rights to the patent on the automatic shift lock and by the mid-1990s virtually all new cars had adopted the feature or some variant of it. Incidents of sudden acceleration when people started their cars dropped sharply. The shift lock not only made people safer but also provided evidence for the hypothesis that most of the problems had been caused by driver error.

Yet the automatic shift lock did not entirely do away with sudden acceleration incidents — as the Toyota problems illustrate. The fix now championed by the Obama administration could work in situations in which there is an actual vehicle defect. It would tell the car that if it receives signals to both accelerate and brake, the accelerator should go dead so that the brake alone will work.

But this smart-pedal system can be of no use if the driver is simply pressing the accelerator and not touching the brake. The unintended acceleration — and the crash — would still occur.

What the smart pedal may do, however, is finally give us a sense of whether sudden acceleration tends to stem from operator error. If the reports of acceleration continue (and the smart pedals work properly), then there will be nothing and no one left to blame but the driver.

Hershey

03-12-2010, 12:09 AM

here's a 2005 that supposedly decided to take off on its own . www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35781956/ns/business-autos/ . Makes you wonder if they're out to jump on the lawsuit bandwagon . Is getting a bit suspicious . You can coast quite a ways with the C.V.T. tranny and the electic motor . Was able to get 99.9 miles per gallon driving from one end of city to our garage at the other side of town . Was lucky to miss most redlights and light traffic .

yaris2010RS

03-13-2010, 12:34 AM

:w00t:okay, so i took it upon myself to fix the toyota issue..... if anyone has this issue, after practicing what follows on this link: http://www.mindjolt.com/games/kamikaze-race you will do jsut fine....

:thumbup:

MadMax

03-13-2010, 01:35 PM

They don't need to install "smart pedals" in the cars...they need to install "smart drivers!" :thumbsup:

Cheers! M2

BuildCode

03-13-2010, 02:15 PM

A friend of mine sent this to me, it is spot on! :thumbsup:

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/funny-graphs-toyota-acceleration.jpg

Cheers! M2

Love it! Concur 100%

Also regarding smart pedals, how about the car & driver test where a simulated stuck pedal Toyota STILL stopped in a shorter distance than a Ford Taurus with no stuck pedal. :smile: (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/09q4/how_to_deal_with_unintended_acceleration-tech_dept)

1NZYaris1

03-13-2010, 03:42 PM

They don't need to install "smart pedals" in the cars...they need to install "smart drivers!" :thumbsup:

Cheers! M2

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: but if they did that there would only be half the amount of
cars on the road , compared to now .
Unemployment would quadrupple
due too No lawsuits ,No accidents , less fuel being used , no market for accident repairs , and the list could go on for quite awhile :wink:

JBougie

03-14-2010, 03:37 AM

They don't need to install "smart pedals" in the cars...they need to install "smart drivers!" :thumbsup:

Cheers! M2

That's not an acceptable solution. People don't have to be responsible for themselves; they just need government mandates. :rolleyes:

slothman86

03-26-2010, 03:33 PM

That's not an acceptable solution. People don't have to be responsible for themselves; they just need government mandates. :rolleyes:

+1

Yaris#2

03-28-2010, 10:38 AM

They don't need to install "smart pedals" in the cars...they need to install "smart drivers!" :thumbsup:

Cheers! M2

I like the idea, but there is so little raw material to work with these days:iono:

Gabriel05

03-30-2010, 06:42 PM

I like the idea, but there is so little raw material to work with these days:iono:

True...true....

eht13

04-05-2010, 10:55 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/05/autos/toyota_nhtsa_fine/index.htm?cnn=yes&hpt=T2

slothman86

04-06-2010, 06:20 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/05/autos/toyota_nhtsa_fine/index.htm?cnn=yes&hpt=T2

LOL @ that guy's face! HAHAHA:bellyroll:

fmicle

04-08-2010, 12:39 AM

Toyota official: 'We need to come clean' (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100408/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_recall;_ylt=AjB1J2F7o.4F2CL_ucpOEKGs0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTNnN2tyYTF2BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNDA4L3Vz X3RveW90YV9yZWNhbGwEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3Bvcw MxBHBvcwMyBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5 BHNsawN0b3lvdGFvZmZpY2k-)

Yaristoo

04-17-2010, 02:05 PM

They just recalled Priuses from 2004 to 2009 in Minnesota. I only know because I had a Prius, a 2006, then totalled it right away, and then turned around and bought my Yaris. They still think I have my Prius and they just wrote to me telling me they are recalling them. What is the problem they are recalling them for, I wonder.

Wow, the more time goes by, the happier I am that I bought a Yaris - the value, everything. If I inherit millions tomorrow, I'm going to go out and buy a Yaris, and buy one for everyone in my family!

I'll bet I can get 250,000 miles out of this baby!

And by the way, Toyota is still the best car, and I'll buy one again any day!:headbang:

RedRide

04-17-2010, 03:01 PM

OK... lets put this all into persprective once and for all.

Toyota has had some gas pedal problems. This is indisputable.

There has also been some less than honest individuals who chose to take advantage of that and fake a problem with their cars.

However, Toyota did have a problem so, let's put this to rest and stop blaming people with real problems because of a few a-holes.

eht13

04-17-2010, 03:54 PM

STC

04-21-2010, 09:06 PM

this media firestorm has been created to hurt toyota in the us, while allowing GM and Chrysler to capitalize and try to actually sell a few vehicles.

Yes why?!

Hmm? Probably because GM did not do well in the Cash-for-Clunkers program, while Toyota and others shined?

Follow the money! It's all about the money, unfortunately... :frown:

bkrownd

04-21-2010, 10:43 PM

OK... lets put this all into persprective once and for all.

Toyota has had some gas pedal problems. This is indisputable.

I've even seen some pedal complaints posted here...which is verrrrrry interesting...

wmgysi

04-30-2010, 11:38 AM

its just funny that 99% of the cars affected were in the States, all over the world not even a peep.....

I believe Toyota loads the ECUs in bulk so the same firmware version is across the board, i really think its operator error and not Toyota. In Canada we never had the "incident" of the accelerators sticking

Canada: we have a Prius and never had any problem with a sticky pedal. The carpet was secured by the garage with a tie and that works fine. They may come up with a new clip in the floor, but I don't bother. The Prius is the best ever car I had! We now just acquire a Yaris Hatchback after our Yaris Sedan got totaled. It was the drivers fault and the car saved his live!

fnkngrv

04-30-2010, 12:46 PM

I think that Toyota should recall Yaris's with ABS to replace the rear wheel speed sensors and the wiring harness. Our Canadian neighbors to the north and those of us in New England and parts north are starting to have problems with corrosion of these parts. The ABS light and brake light come on because of corrosion of the parts and it costs between $400 to $600 per side to fix. If you didn't buy the extended warranty you are out almost 1200 bucks. I called Toyota's customer service line and asked if a fix was in the works and basicly got hung up on. Toyota has become the new GM. Buy the car and we don't want to see you again.

It is interesting that this was noted and then further commented on that a TSB quietly came out in 08 and then not followed up by New England dealerships. I had brought my Yaris into the local deal several times since 08 for random things and it wasn't until a couple months ago when I brought the car in be looked at for how my mileage this winter literally dropped to roughly 16-18mpg consistently all winter long that they mentioned the TSB. I just fell out of my warranty mileage-wise and they wanted to charge me the 1200 bucks, but I produced my military orders for Oct 08-09 showing that I was overseas for the government and therefore could not have driven the car (verified by mileage on oil changes) and they put it under warranty.

The interesting part that I found on the whole deal was that why, if I had been to the dealership several times since the TSB, had they not said, "we have a TSB for the ABS and we need to schedule the replacement". When the flammable sound deadening material TSB came out which was pretty cheap in comparison they contacted me right away.

Also as a point of reference I was experiencing braking issues building to a regular basis during the winter months until they replaced the parts.

Yaristoo

05-01-2010, 08:20 PM

I didn't see anything that said why. I looked for that.

3toys

05-01-2010, 09:19 PM

I had a 98 Tacoma and 2 two years ago Toyota recalled it because of a rusty frame. They bought it back KBB plus 2%. GM did not buy back my old rusty S-10.

birdman

05-30-2010, 04:58 AM

Toyota has had a remarkable run with very few problems over all. With the economy on the skids and US car manufacturers clawing to stay afloat it's only natural to blow the Toyota recalls up all out of proportion so they can use it to gain some sales traction. Any company the size of Toyota will have issues from time to time. They will survive this as they have huge consumer loyalty. When this recall is over and the press moves on, consumer confidence will bounce right back. Lets watch for the next GM recall.

JetfireK

06-07-2010, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=auxmike;435171]I'm sure most of you have seen the news about the "sticky" gas pedals recall on the way.
THANK GOD the Yaris is not on the list. We also did'nt get hit with the floormat thing either.:thumbup:
This does not bode well on Toyota. Two problems with potential runaway acceleration with in a couple of months, that sucks!:mad:[/QUOT

I found it "unusual" that none of the Toyotas made in Japan had any problems!
I also found it "delightful" that of the American Cars only Ford did not borrow money. When the Congressman asked the Ford Executive, "You don't want to borrow any money, so why did you come here?" " I'm here Sir because you told me come here!"

RedStickHam

06-18-2010, 07:50 PM

I got a recall on my 2009 Yaris today. Basically a label for the load carrying capacity is either incorrect or was left off altogether(I haven't gone out to check yet). What I have to do is put the new label they sent me on the inside of the door jamb. According to the label they sent me, the carrying capacity of my car has been reduced by 12 lbs!

Did anyone else get this one?

RedStickHam

Chuck G

06-18-2010, 08:25 PM

I just noticed that label on my 2010
I was wondering what it meant.
It's a Yellow label, right?

rslyk

06-24-2010, 12:36 PM

Have you tried a "I'm a dissatisfied Toyota custmer" picket sign in front of a Toyota dealership...this will get thier attention and they can't hang up on you.

Astroman

06-24-2010, 12:44 PM

teddy

10-20-2010, 09:50 PM

I got a letter in the mail today saying there was a minor issue with the rostra cruise control unit I had installed. Apparently under some extremely specific circumstances using a 2-way radio and emergency frequencies the engine speed (RPM) can fluctuate mildly and cause the check engine light to come on.

Toyota and Rostra have separately investigated and found no safety issues, but are recommending it be removed, and they give me a refund in full for what I paid for it.

I might see if I can get them to install the OEM cruise control using the money they'd otherwise be refunding to me. Not only do I hate the position of the rostra unit, but I would miss my cruise control terribly.

I will scan the letter and post it here soon.

edit: looks like it's been reported already http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31279

Yar15

01-31-2011, 09:59 AM

Some generations of yaris have been made in France?.

BluYrs

01-31-2011, 10:41 AM

Some generations of yaris have been made in France?.
Yup, including early models of the current Yaris sold in the EU. Mine was produced in Japan, for instance.

Terveisiä lahden tonne puolelle, muuten :)

joe keeney

08-13-2011, 09:22 PM

I have a 09 camry never a peoblem with this one. 07 yaris its more fun to drive.

joe keeney

01-17-2012, 12:32 PM

I've also have a 2009 camry never any trouble. When they sent the recall notice I filed it in the trash,

jay cobbs

05-25-2012, 10:46 AM

I have the 2010 sedan. windy day on test drive but more play on freeway than my 94 geo metro aka suzuki swift. doesnt settle down on freway and wanders abit. same complant and recall as corolla drivers. power assit sterring on ecu set to high. only real fix is to try rear sway bar to fix turn and wander at higher speeds I guess. called my people at Big O Tire and they said no ajust for caster of front wheels lowering springs is next . will post next month when I can save up for sway bar at amazon about 250 total fix.

yarista

06-16-2012, 10:07 PM

Billiam

06-17-2012, 10:47 AM

[B]I have heard that Toyota had a recall out for camrys because of a leaky VVT oil supply line. The oil line that sends oil to the VVT hydraulic cam gear can develope an oil leak. Apparently, there is a plastic or rubber part of the oil line up near the head that starts leaking. Does the Yaris have such a recall?:confused:

That's an old recall and effected many vehicles that used the 2GR V6, not just the Camry. That issue was resolved some time ago. No, the 1NZ engine has no such line.

Steveh27

06-18-2012, 09:35 PM

joe keeney

07-02-2012, 06:41 PM

I got a 2009 camry also never a problem. Never took it back for B/S recall. Better a bad Toyota than a good Ford or Chevy what ever that crap fait makes.

YarTrek

10-10-2012, 05:53 AM

The window switch recall is in. 7.43 million vehicles including the Yaris.

NEexpat

10-10-2012, 09:15 AM

^ Here (http://news.yahoo.com/toyota-recall-7-4-million-vehicles-globally-power-060902894--sector.html) is a link to the story.

auxmike

10-10-2012, 09:59 AM

They will just rub on some high temp grease . That will probably just attract dust and screw up the switch over time. I'll pass, thanks!

auxmike

10-10-2012, 09:59 AM

PS now I have to hear people in work tell me 50x there's a recall on my car....

david_827

10-10-2012, 10:20 AM

PS now I have to hear people in work tell me 50x there's a recall on my car....

you and me both its getting annoying.....:thumbdown:

auxmike

10-10-2012, 10:28 AM

Then there's that one jerk "I thought they were reliable, they sure have a lot of recalls"...

NEexpat

10-10-2012, 10:29 AM

Here (http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/toyota+voluntary+safety+oct10.htm?siteid=DMG_rss_2 01210_RLA_explan_toynew_Toyota+Announces+Voluntary +Recall+of+Certain+Vehicles+For+The+Driver%27s+Sid e+Power+Window+Master+Switch) is some more information from the Toyota USA Newsroom

The MSNBC story posted above mentions,

That, in fact, is now the case, with the NHTSA targeting an additional 800,000 vehicles, including some Yaris subcompacts from the 2007 to 2009 model years, as well as the entire 2008 Highlander Hybrid SUV run.

And the story I linked from Toyota just mentions 07's and 08's. But the NHTSA includes 09's.

So who knows, I'll wait and see if I get something in the mail.

auxmike

10-10-2012, 11:11 AM

Fluorine grease, hmm... Wonder where we can get some .

Gogogordy

10-10-2012, 11:15 AM

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/18/12279930-toyota-fire-probe-expanded-to-14-million-autos

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the automaker is looking into reports that the window switches on the driver’s side doors of a number of different Toyota models can overheat and catch fire. The problem has so far been linked to 161 fires and nine injuries.

This includes some Yaris subcompacts from the 2007 to 2009 model years.

According to the story, .32 million Chevy Trailblazers, and some 5 million Jeeps are being NHTSA'ed for the similar door-fire issues.

But the press will undoubtedly make this "a Toyota thing".

It's lonely at the top...

CTScott

10-10-2012, 11:18 AM

Fluorine grease, hmm... Wonder where we can get some .

Fluorine or Fluorinated grease is pretty common in the aerospace industry. It is typically used between Titanium or super high precision parts. Bicycle shops sell Finish Line Extreme Fluoro grease in little tubes for about $15 to $20.

suckerface

10-10-2012, 11:37 AM

...lowering springs is next . will post next month when I can save up for sway bar at amazon about 250 total fix.

check out www.microimageonline.com for suspension mods, good prices, and GREAT customer service :thumbsup:

STC

10-10-2012, 11:41 AM

The window switch recall is in. 7.43 million vehicles including the Yaris.

Why I purchase manual cars with manual windows :smile:

Cheers! :smile:

403RS

10-10-2012, 03:24 PM

PS now I have to hear people in work tell me 50x there's a recall on my car....

This.

ugh. haha.

kou

10-10-2012, 04:11 PM

I wish this came out 2 weeks ago when mine started smoking and i had to replace it.

GianniVRS

10-11-2012, 07:19 AM

Does this (Window switch problem) concern the JDM version VITZ or just the EU / USA markets?

ciscobear

10-11-2012, 09:22 AM

Does this (Window switch problem) concern the JDM version VITZ or just the EU / USA markets?

Recall of six models Vitz and Belta Notification number 3036
, October 11 start date recall

For the vehicle part of the six models Vitz and Belta, I reported to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport following the recall of content on 10 October 2012.

Illustration where improvement

One. Status of the problem
Some of the power window switch on the driver's door, grease for lubrication of the switch is not uniformly applied, that the lubricity is deteriorated grease is carbonized by (spark) arc generated in the contact portion at the time of switch operation have. Therefore, there is a possibility that the sliding switch is deteriorated, and the contact malfunction worn early.
Further, when applied to a commercial lubricant like trying to improve the sliding switch failure may cause the switch to melting.
2. The contents of improvement
And replace it with a switch board coated with a heat-resisting grease, about what to check all vehicles, the power window switches, malfunction is confirmed, but otherwise, grease the heat resistance at the contact.
Also, about what the inspection above, was applied to the heat-resistant grease, Then, if malfunction occurs, we replace the power window switch.

http://toyota.jp/recall/2012/1010_4.html

Check the page to see if your car is affected.

charles nelson

12-08-2012, 02:28 PM

My dealer said that I would be receiving a recall letter in about two weeks. It has now been over six weeks. Has Toyota decided not to inform owners about the recall?

Update...of course, I just received the recall letter...6 weeks after my dealer informed me about it.

yarisitis

04-20-2013, 06:49 PM

For those who have had their Yaris' fixed for the power window switch recall, what were your experiences? Did you only take your car in when you noticed the window exhibiting the "notchy/sticky" operation or did you take it in regardless of that? I'm assuming they have to remove the door side panel to get to the internal window parts? Did the service people do a good job, did they mess anything up or break anything in the process?

I want to take my car in for this recall but I'm a little hesitant as to if it's really necessary and also I'm scared they might end up messing something up in the process.

edmscan

04-20-2013, 09:05 PM

tooter

04-20-2013, 10:09 PM

...and you would have never known that they did anything.

Maybe they didn't...

(sorry, couldn't resist :wink: )

Killchain

07-05-2013, 11:21 AM

I haven't seen no posts on this so I'll put it in the right spot.

http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/toyota+voluntary+recall+yaris+july2.htm

http://www.toyota.com/owners/web/pages/resources/recalls

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/03/toyota-recall-idUSL3N0F91AT20130703

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100862449

LugNut

07-09-2013, 08:44 AM

I took my 2007 liftback in for the window switch service recently, and it went very quickly. The switch did seem a bit notchy before, but I don't know if they just greased it or replaced it.

On the rusty lower front suspension bolts, I asked if they had seen any that have failed here. They said no, and they had no replacements in stock. I see the bolts for about $4 each on various websites, so I may pick them up and replace them anyway in the future.

2012 YarisSE

11-07-2013, 01:11 AM

SPECIAL SERVICE CAMPAIGN # 212
REPLACE THE ELECTRIC POWER STEERING
CONTROL MODULE
Models:
2012 MODEL YEAR YARIS HATCHBACK

AFFECTED VEHICLES:
JTDKTUD3XCD500157
JTDJTUD39CD500159
JTDJTUD39CD500162
JTDKTUD38CD500111
JTDKTUD35CD500115
JTDKTUD32CD500153
JTDKTUD32CD500170
JTDKTUD37CD500178
JTDKTUD31CD500192
JTDKTUD39CD500196
JTDKTUD35CD500227
JTDKTUD38CD500237
JTDKTUD30CD500183
JTDKTUD36CD500222
JTDKTUD37CD500231

Production Period
Late May, 2011 through Late August, 2011

smofskra

04-09-2014, 04:19 PM

A new recall including Yaris model years 2006-2010 http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-toyota-recall-corolla-tacoma-yaris-20140409,0,7146686.story#axzz2yPvzWRIG

jsambell

04-16-2014, 02:23 AM

Seat recall also applies in Australia:

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1057693

LilyOfTheYaris

04-20-2014, 11:40 PM

This is what I got on my Toyota Owner's profile...hope the picture shows up I'm attaching it. Apparently, Toyota is working on a solution in the near future.

MiSFiTx87

05-16-2014, 01:02 AM

Anyone received their recall letters yet? I got one but I have to pick it up on the weekend and head to a local toyota

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ezhacker1

05-16-2014, 06:37 AM

I just got my Seat Track recall letter

CTScott

05-16-2014, 07:44 AM

I received the spiral cable one for my 09 yesterday.

Steveh27

05-16-2014, 12:39 PM

I got the spiral cable one for my 2010 yesterday. Wonder when the other arrives & how long it'll take them to come up with a repair & tell us to bring them in?

fnkngrv

05-16-2014, 12:53 PM

I still haven't heard shit and I checked the website. My car will receive both. This is a real concern too since I will be cannibalizing another seat to mount my racing seat to.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

CTScott

05-16-2014, 01:36 PM

I received the 3 door seat track notice for my 08 today.

SKurj

05-16-2014, 04:43 PM

I received the 3 door seat track notice for my 08 today.

I got that notice last week for my 09 3dr as well, but it sounds like its just a notice and they haven't got the fix yet.. or I read bad..

CTScott

05-16-2014, 05:00 PM

I got that notice last week for my 09 3dr as well, but it sounds like its just a notice and they haven't got the fix yet.. or I read bad..

That is correct. At this point they don't have the fix for that or for the clockspring.

ciscobear

05-17-2014, 09:54 AM

Ezhacker can you post up that letter?

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BLH

05-17-2014, 04:18 PM

I got the notice for the seat track yesterday.

Have not received the spiral cable notice yet. Though the Recall web site indicted it also applied to my 2007.
I did download the Recall Notice for the spiral cable from the web page.

nookandcrannycar

05-17-2014, 07:32 PM

I received the 3 door seat track notice for my 08 today.

My notice came in the mail delivered 5/16 as well.

MUSKOKA800

05-18-2014, 08:36 PM

Received a letter detailing the upcoming recall. More mail once the parts are onhand and appointments can be set.

"G"

05-19-2014, 09:10 PM

Same here, got 2 letters. One for the seats and one for the air bag harness. Looks like they are trying to cover their ass in case someone dies. GM recently had their pee pee whacked because they wouldn't acknowledge a defect.

ezhacker1

05-19-2014, 10:33 PM

I havent received the air bag one yet. The best fix is a fixed race seat bolted to the floor, and a race wheel. No worries about the seat sliding or airbag may or may not deploy. :) i might just get a race wheel now.

fnkngrv

05-19-2014, 10:34 PM

Just got a letter today finally

EDIT: Only for the seat issue. Still haven't seen anything on the spiral cable.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

Killchain

05-19-2014, 11:36 PM

On http://www.safercar.gov/ shows
"Toyota is recalling certain model year 2006-2010 Yaris vehicles manufactured August 22, 2005, through May 12, 2010." My car was made 06/2010 so I'm ok for now for the seat rail.
For the airbag, it only states. 2006-2010 Yaris recall nothing specific. So guess I've to wait, and cross my fingers.

Astroman

05-20-2014, 04:46 AM

I just got my "wait for further instruction" letter on the seat rails. My seats don't move that much, thanks to work it's pretty much just a two seater. I was hoping to get the one for the airbag as that actually broke already, 5 years ago. :frown:

nookandcrannycar

05-20-2014, 12:15 PM

I havent received the air bag one yet.

Neither have I.

NEexpat

05-20-2014, 03:44 PM

Received both today.

BLH

05-22-2014, 08:47 PM

I received the Spiral Cable notice today.
The seat spring one had come already.

fnkngrv

05-22-2014, 08:51 PM

Called the local dealer and they said no solutions even in sight

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

nookandcrannycar

05-22-2014, 09:30 PM

Called the local dealer and they said no solutions even in sight

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

:frown:

fnkngrv

05-22-2014, 09:36 PM

:frown:

You're telling me. I have had issues with my seat rail springs for years. That is all I need to pop at 150+

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

fnkngrv

05-22-2014, 09:37 PM

Maybe I should just go to Lowes and rip a couple springs offa a couple screen doors

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

nookandcrannycar

05-22-2014, 10:07 PM

Maybe I should just go to Lowes and rip a couple springs offa a couple screen doors

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

:laugh::laugh:

nookandcrannycar

05-29-2014, 04:54 PM

My spiral cable notice finally arrived the day before yesterday.

Steveh27

07-15-2014, 12:19 PM

I'm surprised that Toyota has not issued an update on these recalls. Maybe they still have not figured out how to do these in a low cost way. I'm keeping my Yaris, but if someone was trying to sell one this could make it more difiicult.

Any guesses on when we'll actually be taking them in for repair; 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, more than 2 years?

WeeYari

07-15-2014, 12:22 PM

My spiral cable notice finally arrived the day before yesterday.

I'm still waiting for any form of notice from Toyota :iono:

fnkngrv

07-15-2014, 12:24 PM

I just received my remedy letter yesterday for the seat rails. They are replacing the rails altogether. I called my local dealer and they said as long as I have the VIN I can have them also give me new rails for my racing seat setup too.

BLH

07-15-2014, 12:37 PM

I also got the seat rails remedy letter yesterday. No remedy letter on the spiral cable yet.
Just the preliminary one saying my Yaris was one of the ones with a possible spiral cable issue.

The Limo 2

07-15-2014, 04:57 PM

Also got my seat rail letter today. Phoned local dealer and they will not have the parts in until later this month. Have an appointment for July 29th to get seats fixed.
Roy

The Limo 2

07-29-2014, 10:14 PM

New seat rail installed on the driver's side. Slides back and forth easily. I seem to sit a little higher.
Roy

JimKellyfan

08-01-2014, 04:37 PM

Yep, me too (sit higher now).
Got my rails replaced Tuesday (LF).
Spiral cable not yet available (updated P/N anyway).
Another nice factoid, no later computer update available (calibration updates) (that means no issues to fix)
Spiral cable, no big deal.
I want them to fix their issue, then replace mine.
(having experience with Yota's, they haven't gotten this right since at least 09 models-I changed a good many for various models throughout the years, but 09's ring a strong bell in the Taco's, well, all of em, really)

nookandcrannycar

09-02-2014, 10:36 PM

After reading a particular CTScott post a couple of days ago my takeaway was that the illumination of the light ('SRS/airbag light') = 'error' = means the system won't deploy AT ALL :eek:. I decided to pay a visit to the service department at Fred Haas Toyota World to see if the the recall (for my Blue 2007 Yaris) had yet been flagged in their with the word REMEDY (I had been told that this flag needed to be in place before any work could be done). By chance, the person who helped me today happened to be the assistant service manager. He told me that the recall had yet to be flagged REMEDY. He then asked me if the light is illuminating. I said yes. He then said Toyota doesn't want customers driving around with a system that won't deploy (naturally, Scott = correct), so they'll put in a new spiral cable (so the system will deploy) and then will replace that again once the REMEDY arrives (which he said will = a different part number). Why hadn't previous people under him hadn't mentioned this?....IDK. A new spiral cable will be installed tomorrow, enabling the system to then deploy in the event of an accident.

nookandcrannycar

09-03-2014, 09:04 PM

A temporary new spiral cable has now been installed (and will be there until the 'recall fix spiral cable (different part #) ' arrives). The system has been reset so that the airbags will deploy. The light is now off. In addition to the 'recall specified spiral cable part number', the dealer is also waiting for the seat track/rail parts (the designated replacements re the recall) to arrive. I also had my state inspection done today...no trouble passing at 294,417 miles :thumbsup: (I renewed my registration (and got my window sticker) at Kroger last Sunday).

2007yariz

09-05-2014, 12:18 AM

How much was the fix?

why?

09-05-2014, 04:10 AM

nookandcrannycar

09-12-2014, 08:40 PM

How much was the fix?

It was free....and Toyota's intended fix (when the part arrives) will be free as well.

nookandcrannycar

09-12-2014, 08:41 PM

why hadn't they mentioned it? Because they probably knew nothing about it. Stuff like that just does not get communicated very well, if at all. The people need to choose to go searching for it.

:thumbsup:

2007yariz

09-15-2014, 01:38 PM

It was free....and Toyota's intended fix (when the part arrives) will be free as well.

Nice! I am still waiting for the remedy letter while the abs light is on. I thought the letter said it would come late summer?

Astroman

09-15-2014, 09:45 PM

Frustrating is taken so long for a fix. I hit 5 years of the stupid light being on and having no airbag the entire time.

rafagzmn

09-20-2014, 01:44 AM

i had the driver seat rails done about a month ago(i got a letter from toyota telling about the recall), but the spiral cable light have been on about 2 years, and the dealership said that my car will get the spiral cable replace, that we have to wait until toyota activate the recall.
still waiting...

ajwrev

09-26-2014, 10:35 PM

So, my 2008 Yaris (5 speed) has been a great car. But in the last two years it would occasionally not go beyond idle OR it will speed up inexplicably. My "cure" has been to shut it off and wait and wait. Then try, and retry until it's working right. I now have 92K on it. Help?

why?

09-27-2014, 07:44 AM

sounds like something could be wrong with the throttle position sensor. No idea how to check on that, I bet CTScott knows though.

nookandcrannycar

10-07-2014, 01:47 AM

2007yariz

10-07-2014, 02:33 AM

Tomorrow at 430pm CST will be 8 years exactly since I drove away from the dealership in my new 2007 Yaris.

Today I finally got...not a priliminary notification or some such thing....but the ACUUAL RECALL LETTER for the driver and passenger seat tracks issue. Yay!

Good for you nook! I got that letter in August of this year lol.

I am still waiting for the actual remedy letter for the spiral cable recall/ airbag light. Light has been on since august and Toyota needs to hustle up because it's not safe to drive anymore.

nookandcrannycar

10-07-2014, 03:55 AM

Good for you nook! I got that letter in August of this year lol.

I am still waiting for the actual remedy letter for the spiral cable recall/ airbag light. Light has been on since august and Toyota needs to hustle up because it's not safe to drive anymore.

I haven't gotten that letter either. However, an Assistant Service Manager at Fred Haas Toyota (one of my two local dealers) asked me (while I was checking on the status of both recalls) -- "is the light was on (the SRS light)?" I said yes. He said 'Toyota doesn't want you driving around with a system that won't activate, so make an appointment and we'll put in a different spiral cable that will reset the light (no charge). Then when the cable that Toyota has designated for the fix comes in, we'll put that one in (again no charge)'. I made an appointment for the next day,' they put the 'interim' cable in, and the system now works -- the light is off. You might ask your local dealer to do this. It may depend on the size of the dealership. Fred Haas is the #1 Tundra dealer in the world, and the #2 Toyota dealer overall in the U.S...they don't care about what to them is 'nickel and dime stuff'.

screenprinter

10-16-2014, 10:04 AM

The service center told me they'd contact me when the cable came in. Never heard from them again. They told me it would take all day or at least half a day. With my job I really don't have time to put my car in the shop.

rafagzmn

10-18-2014, 04:11 PM

I got a call this week from my toyota dealer, the spiral cable campaign is active, and made an appointment for this monday october 20 for the replacement.

Hershey

10-18-2014, 11:06 PM

Let us the fix for the air bag cable . Good luck .

MoneyT8

10-18-2014, 11:34 PM

Still waiting on the letter for the spiral cable. Has anyone gotten hurt or god-forbid killed because of this? Do we we even need the letter from Toyota to go in and get this fixed because I've heard the dealership has it on their computer already so there is no need for the recall letter? Anyways Toyota needs to hurry up.

***Update just got my recall done for the spiral cable and now the airbag light is gone =). I'm considering getting an alignment done.

The Limo 2

11-03-2014, 10:10 PM

Got my letter for the spiral cable. Have an appointment on Nov 20 to get it done.
Roy

IllusionX

11-04-2014, 07:33 AM

Got my letter yesterday for the spiral cable too.

Hershey

11-04-2014, 12:35 PM

What is removed to get to the cable ? Big or small task ?

The Limo 2

11-04-2014, 04:58 PM

The letter says the cable is in the steering column assembly and will take approximately one hour to fix.
Roy

phaznet

11-04-2014, 07:23 PM

I got the letter!
And Toyota wanted me to pay for the diagnostic and spiral cable repair 2 months back, saying i would be refunded. But, I bet I would only get refunded for the spiral cable, not the diagnostic (which I had already done myself).

Gotta love the hand-me-down recall culture we have here in Canada.

"G"

11-20-2014, 08:46 PM

Just had the spiral cable replaced and the seat rail recall done. 100% free.

Still Learning

11-21-2014, 11:46 AM

I had both the spiral cable and rails done last Saturday. I had my car back within 2 hours.

Astroman

11-22-2014, 02:22 AM

I had mine done a couple weeks back. Went in for the seat rail and they fixed the clockspring. Finally got to drive my car without the airbag light on for the first time in over 5 years. :smile:

MoneyT8

12-20-2014, 11:07 PM

Anyone got a Toyota Economic Loss Settlement Administrator settlement? My first thought was it's a scam but after further review it doesn't look like it. Thanks.

MadMax

12-20-2014, 11:12 PM

Anyone got a Toyota Economic Loss Settlement Administrator settlement? My first thought was it's a scam but after further review it doesn't look like it. Thanks.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52866

MoneyT8

12-25-2014, 02:16 AM

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52866

Thanks :drool:.

matti

02-24-2015, 09:11 PM

CTScott

02-24-2015, 10:47 PM

First, I apologize if this has already been discussed.

I received a letter from Toyota saying I need to replace some sensors in the front passenger seat that determine if the airbag deploys or not. I guess this problem could also cause the front passenger airbag to turn off. I have a 2012 Yaris L. Anyone else get this letter?

The only one I am aware of for the 2012 is T-SB-0092-12:

Some 2012 model year Yaris hatchback vehicles may exhibit a condition where the passenger
“AIRBAG OFF” light may illuminate intermittently while driving and the passenger seat is unoccupied.
This condition will not affect airbag operation. An updated Occupant Classification System Electronic
Control Unit (OCS ECU) has been made available to address this condition. This updated OCS ECU
logic will now illuminate the “AIRBAG OFF” light all the time when the vehicle is operated and
the passenger seat is unoccupied or when the OCS ECU determines that the occupant does not
meet the adult classification criteria.

matti

02-25-2015, 10:27 AM

The only one I am aware of for the 2012 is T-SB-0092-12:

Some 2012 model year Yaris hatchback vehicles may exhibit a condition where the passenger
“AIRBAG OFF” light may illuminate intermittently while driving and the passenger seat is unoccupied.
This condition will not affect airbag operation. An updated Occupant Classification System Electronic
Control Unit (OCS ECU) has been made available to address this condition. This updated OCS ECU
logic will now illuminate the “AIRBAG OFF” light all the time when the vehicle is operated and
the passenger seat is unoccupied or when the OCS ECU determines that the occupant does not
meet the adult classification criteria.

Thank you. The letter I received doesn't mention any TSB number, as far as I can tell. It says....."Due to the current collision detection thresholds, the system may interpret certain occupant seating usages or road conditions as a rear collision and illuminate the Airbag Warning Light and "AIR BAG OFF" indicator, disabling the front passenger airbag."

It says this pertains to 2012-2013 Yaris vehicles and others (Avalon, etc.). Regardless, I'll call my dealer soon to get it taken care of.

Thanks!

Flammable

03-06-2015, 09:26 PM

I recently received a recall notice for a passenger airbag sensor recall. Taking my 2012 Yaris in next weekend for the fix. Should take around 2 1/2 hours from what they say.

Flammable

03-06-2015, 09:29 PM

It says this pertains to 2012-2013 Yaris vehicles and others (Avalon, etc.). Regardless, I'll call my dealer soon to get it taken care of.

Thanks!

That is what my recall letter said as well.

matti

03-06-2015, 09:46 PM

That is what my recall letter said as well.

I had the work done today at my local dealership. Took about two hours.

Flammable

03-06-2015, 10:10 PM

I had the work done today at my local dealership. Took about two hours.
Cool and thanks now I know about how long we will have to wait. The only bad thing about going to the dealership is we always like to look at the new cars and gosh darn it I cant tell you how many times we took cars in for oil changes and walked out with new cars. :help:

cavramopoulos

03-10-2015, 02:19 PM

Flammable

03-10-2015, 05:37 PM

Hi All,
don't know which forum to post in this. currently when I turn my car off my gas meter takes about 5+ minutes for it go down to the normal empty when a car is off. Toyota is trying to tell me that this is normal in a 2012 Toyota yaris, yet when I bought my car in 2012 it worked fine until 2014 which is when it started happening. has anyone else had this issue?I have a 2012 Yaris and my gas gauge doesn't go down until I lock my car with the remote key fob. I am not sure if it goes down on it's own or how long that takes.

KingForADay

03-24-2015, 11:52 PM

I got an email notice from the DOT this morning regarding a new recall for 2012-2015 Yaris:

The affected vehicles may have been manufactured with a roof headliner that does not provide the proper occupant protection in the event of a crash.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchResults?refurl=email&searchType=ID&targetCategory=R&searchCriteria.nhtsa_ids=15V134

Recall begins in mid-April apparently.

I just bought my Yaris 3 weeks ago and have never gone through a recall before, so this is going to be all new to me.

Should I take pictures beforehand of the inside of the car in case they scratch the interior or mark up my seats (as examples)?

NYC-SE

03-25-2015, 01:29 AM

The recall says "vehicles sold in Puerto Rico". Don't think it should affect you in Cali (or me in NYC)

KingForADay

03-25-2015, 01:53 AM

The recall says "vehicles sold in Puerto Rico". Don't think it should affect you in Cali (or me in NYC)
Oh, strange. I wonder why they even sent me the email alert. I signed up to be alerted and am pretty certain I entered my VIN when doing so, and according to the vehicle history my car was originally sold new in Texas (bought it used here in Cali.).

When I first read the Puerto Rico part I figured they meant it included those sold in Puerto Rico and not strictly ones sold there. But then I just noticed the affected number and it's only 16K, which is way too small a number for 3 years worth of US models.

Thanks for pointing that out!

Flammable

03-25-2015, 11:15 PM

Oh, strange. I wonder why they even sent me the email alert. I signed up to be alerted and am pretty certain I entered my VIN when doing so, and according to the vehicle history my car was originally sold new in Texas (bought it used here in Cali.).

When I first read the Puerto Rico part I figured they meant it included those sold in Puerto Rico and not strictly ones sold there. But then I just noticed the affected number and it's only 16K, which is way too small a number for 3 years worth of US models.

Thanks for pointing that out!A Toyota dealership should be able to advise you of any recalls just by your VIN. You may want to check with them and see if there are any other recalls that your car would be under. I just recently had the passenger airbag sensor replaced via recall on my 2012 Yaris.