The battle of the Droids??! [Archive] - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Rain

06-16-2010, 12:41 PM

Oh good! I saw your post about getting the Hd2 and i was like "i hope she knows its windows". Glad you returned it; probably not for just windows issues?

I didn't like the fact that I have to go to "Task Manager" to close a program. Maybe there's another way to do but I gave up trying to figure out already.
I also like physical keyboards better.
I didn't like how the browser works on this thing. It can't even load Facebook properly. (I know there's an app for that, but yeah, load the website correctly!)
It also bugged me that you can't move the shortcut icons around. And that you have to delete an icon first then go to another menu to replace it with another icon.

You hated it? Oh, OK. No biggy, plenty more where they came from. Tons of super-phones coming out in the near future. (Ok, not a ton just a few but how many do we need :biggrin:)
I still like Nokia better because of the functional Bluetooth. I hate how every other smartphone just lets you use it to connect with a headset and nothing else. I might just get an N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) (runs on Maemo)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3702/deviceprocessingpower.jpg

or wait for the Orange N8

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8640/26323b.jpg

Shroomster

06-16-2010, 01:19 PM

GOOD CHOICE TOMATO......at least for your area; Sprint coverage is horrible in my house and families neighborhoods...least you have android still :-D

@Rain...yeah my wife (if you've read the rest of this thread) is the same way [at least about the keyboard and facebook] she LOVES the mTslide and it runs smooth on facebook. but yeah most everything now is in APP form. there are apps SOLELY FOR turning on or off the bluetooth or the speaker on the phone.

plus yeah a task killer is the most effective way of shutting down unwanted runnin apps; however if you can figure out how to turn the sync options on to sync only when you want it would keep most of them from running.

eTiMaGo

06-16-2010, 02:05 PM

rent an orchestra and choir to play 'Hallelujah', tomato has finally picked a phone :laugh:

good choice :wink:

Altitude

06-16-2010, 02:09 PM

^^ I laughed, I cried. It's the feel good thread of the Summer!

tomato

06-17-2010, 01:13 PM

rent an orchestra and choir to play 'Hallelujah', tomato has finally picked a phone :laugh:

good choice :wink:

aww, is that all? I was hoping for something like this ;)

http://kruufm.com/files/23/marchingband.jpg

^^ I laughed, I cried. It's the feel good thread of the Summer!

Really? awwww, thanks! :redface:

tomato

Let us know how you like it, my wife is due for a phone upgrade in August and that is the one she wants...

I have the HTC Hero and love it. I just wish the screen was a bit bigger as my eyes are starting to go bad due to age.

Cheers! M2

Will do. Your wife has good taste. :smile:

Actually, the size of the screen was a deciding factor for me too. You can zoom some of the apps but not all of them (that depends on the apps), and there isn't an option to increase the font size all across the board like you can do on a blackberry, so as a result, some things are really hard to see on a smaller screen.

If you already have Sprint then you know that where you get signal, it's very good. Also, I believe 4G is already lit up in TX, but you'll have to check which areas are getting it or not and when. Even if you don't get 4G, 3G on the EVO seems plenty fast to me. The device really flies, there is no lag whatsoever, even with multiple applications open. You already know how to use Sense, so you're ahead of me right there.

Give me a little bit of time, and I'll give you more feedback. I'll be back later and see if I can dig out the most useful reviews and videos on the EVO.

Right now, if you asked me if I would recommend the EVO to a friend, the answer is ** absolutely **

Aothachos

06-17-2010, 02:23 PM

I just played with the droid evo, my cousin just got her's not too long ago, and wow am i impressed. The front camera is pretty damn good quality and the main camera is freaking sweet. The screen is huge and yet it fits perfectly in your hand like a phone should and in your pocket, and truthfully with sprints 4g network, it downloaded music pretty fast from MP3 Music Wizard app I got her.

But overall they did a test and the Motorola Droid is best when it comes to graphics and such, heres the report and video.....

http://www.gadgetsdna.com/motorola-droid-wins-graphics-battle-against-nexus-one-evo-4g-incredible/3789/

Aothachos

06-17-2010, 02:39 PM

^^im actually cracking up at work right now Lmao awesome picture

MadMax

06-17-2010, 03:46 PM

Rain

06-17-2010, 03:48 PM

You're gonna get me in trouble PK lol

tomato

06-18-2010, 01:46 AM

I still like Nokia better because of the functional Bluetooth. I hate how every other smartphone just lets you use it to connect with a headset and nothing else. I might just get an N900 (http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/) (runs on Maemo)

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3702/deviceprocessingpower.jpg

or wait for the Orange N8

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8640/26323b.jpg

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/06/15/nokia-n8-with-symbian-3-first-impressions/

tomato

06-18-2010, 01:48 AM

tomato

Thanks, the only regret is that I just got my Hero in December (it was a Christmas present from the wife and kids) and I won't get to upgrade for a while. I need the bigger screen and text more than they do!

Cheers! M2

I feel your pain.

Look at it this way, by the time you're eligible for upgrade, your (new) phone will be way ahead of your wife's EVO.

one thing about the EVO: the battery isn't great (depending how you use it).

I get 10-12 hours right now, which is perfectly acceptable to me, but I am light user, mostly use the internet (couple of hours a day on and off?) a couple of apps here and then, a few photos, and of course, email, twitter, coming through all day.

I haven't loaded any music on it yet, still use my iPod for now.

I don't much talk on the phone at all, maybe an hour or two a month. For people who talk on the phone a lot, this isn't the right phone, unless you have a way to olug it in sometime during the day. If you use hotspot or 4g, forget it, better bring a spare battery along, too.

tomato

06-18-2010, 01:57 AM

lol got the evo huh?? how do u like it so far??

I **truly ** loved the N1 (I think the N1 is one of the most underrated phones out there right now) but I'm warming up to the EVO a little more every day :smile:
(hard not to)

Figuring how to work Sense UI was a bit of a pain at first, but it also has some benefits.

..least you have android still :-D

Word!
Woudn't have it any other way !! :D :headbang::headbang:

Aothachos

06-18-2010, 11:00 AM

Cell phone creators are just going to keep creating new and more new phones almost every 2-3 months with the android system, and eventually its going to over flood the market and it will be head on head android os vs iphone os.

Altitude

06-27-2010, 05:27 PM

I was thinking my next purchase of a cell phone would be an Android. But after reading this (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_activates_android_kill_switch_zaps_useless_ apps.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+readwriteweb+(ReadWriteWeb)) I don't think I will.

I refuse to allow *any* manufacturer to dictate what can and cannot be installed on a device I purchase. Why do they feel so many consumers need to be protected from themselves (or in Apple's case protecting Apple's reputation)?

Say what you will about WinMo, but at least I have complete control over the device. It's a shame that WinMo 7 is going to be such a dumbed down OS (following the lead of Apple and Google) because I may just never buy another smart phone again if this trend continues.

Gideon

06-27-2010, 06:42 PM

I was thinking my next purchase of a cell phone would be an Android. But after reading this (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_activates_android_kill_switch_zaps_useless_ apps.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+readwriteweb+(ReadWriteWeb)) I don't think I will.

Yeah I'm pretty annoyed by that, considering the application was not malicious and was just misrepresented in the App Market to increase the number of downloads.

Which I would agree is a no-no and removing it off of the App Market makes some sense, but reaching into people's handsets to take it away? That's a bit too far.

Seems sort of crazy for Google to do something like that when Apple has yet to do such a thing to any application. (This includes that tethering application that made it up briefly in 2008, users who bought/downloaded it still had the application, Apple just removed it from the app store permanently.)

Kal-El

06-27-2010, 08:13 PM

Releasing July 15th.

Very similar specs to the HTC EVO, this will be on Verizon though.

Key features...

4.3" screen
1GHZ processor
8mp camera/HD video recording
8GB internal/16GB SD card

Drool.......

http://www.cameratown.com/assets/news/large/Droidx.jpg

http://techtickerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/moto-droid-x-preview.jpg

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2010/06/20100623_Motorola_droid_x_SA_0082.jpg

EVO and Droid X next to the puny iPhone...:tongue:

http://skattertech.com/media/2010/06/evo-4g-vs-iphone-4-vs-droid-x-600x354.jpg

Yaris Hilton

06-27-2010, 08:18 PM

A company "reaching" into my device without my consent and removing an application I've installed really pisses me off. Amazon did that with a book they sold to Kindle users, then decided they didn't have the copyright to. Messed some people up who were in the middle of book reports and such.

I also don't like companies installing software without permission. Sony put out a whole lot of CDs that installed a rootkit on computers that played them. I haven't bought a CD from Sony in years.

Altitude

06-27-2010, 08:39 PM

Kioshi

06-27-2010, 08:45 PM

i sense big brother....from Google...it's going to happen sooner or later.

Thanks for the article...I'm NOT getting an Android phone now :)

C'mon....Apple on Verizon or..import GSM phones~

Kal-El

06-27-2010, 11:02 PM

here is another take on the story;
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2010/06/25/android-application-safety-and-security/

It does off some more clarity. Thanks :smile:

i sense big brother....from Google...it's going to happen sooner or later.

Thanks for the article...I'm NOT getting an Android phone now :)

C'mon....Apple on Verizon or..import GSM phones~

A company "reaching" into my device without my consent and removing an application I've installed really pisses me off. Amazon did that with a book they sold to Kindle users, then decided they didn't have the copyright to. Messed some people up who were in the middle of book reports and such.

I also don't like companies installing software without permission. Sony put out a whole lot of CDs that installed a rootkit on computers that played them. I haven't bought a CD from Sony in years.

It may seem Google is snooping into private matters but clearly they are preventing third party developers from collecting sensitive data that may be used illegally.

I'd certainly prefer Google doing some appropriate policing rather than the Android market getting filled with suspicious activity that endangers the private material of its users.

Apple regulates their market far more. At least Android remains a free and open market. But freedom can't mean illegal activity. Otherwise we all lose freedom.

Kal-El

06-27-2010, 11:30 PM

the original site that Altitude posted the link to , seems more pro Apple. There will always be a battle between Apple and Google and whoever comes up with a good product. Apple has it good sides but I cant stand their mentality of "we will decide for you". I'd buy an Apple PC yes because they are good for a lot of multimedia stuff, other Apple products nope because they are not the best. Google on the other hand is at least trying to be transparent and is showing they are trying. Sure there will be bumps and not everyone will be happy but at least most of their stuff is free both money-wise and ideologically

Yup. Interestingly, all the best apps by Google and on the Android market are FREE. Some of which are highly advanced expensive to develop apps like...

Google Maps and Navigation (I'd pay at least $200 for this app, seriously)
Google Earth
Google Sky Maps
Google Translate
Google Goggles
ect.....

tk-421

06-28-2010, 03:16 AM

.

This one made my day. :laugh:

Kal-El

06-29-2010, 12:05 AM

iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo

:bellyroll:

This will be the funniest video you'll see this year....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=player_embedded

NWS for language

Kioshi

06-29-2010, 01:19 AM

LMFAOOO....

It's damn true...

I was snooping around and found this little thing written by someone, who kind of knows what they are talking about...

Interesting enough - http://tech.shantanugoel.com/2010/06/26/android-vs-iphone-security-models.html

tomato

06-29-2010, 02:00 AM

iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo

:bellyroll:

This will be the funniest video you'll see this year....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=player_embedded

NWS for language

that's hilarious and really well made. :bow:
Unfortunately some truth in it.

tomato

06-29-2010, 01:13 PM

So... I hear FroYo is officially rolling out on N1's in the US starting today...

Anyone on here has a Nexus one?

Rain

06-29-2010, 03:47 PM

I am in love with the Evo's functional Bluetooth. Wireless sync and file transfers ftw

Vioz

06-29-2010, 04:34 PM

tomato

06-29-2010, 06:01 PM

I really want a evo now, im stuck with the moto droid on verizon, to cancel my contract is 320$ per line and i have 2 lines :( to get with sprint, should've went with them in the beggining cheaper rates and good service in my area and the evo is sick

:eek: don't do it!! :eyebulge::eyebulge:

VZW is getting the Droid X, and after that there will be more Droids!!

There is *nothing* wrong with the Moto Droid. The EVO is faster, bigger, yes, but also has some issues. Yesterday we got an OTA update that bricked some phones. http://www.androidcentral.com/hows-your-evo-4g-running-post-update

Mine wasn't as messed up as others, but some native widgets stopped working and had to be reinstalled. Annoying. (I guess there is a price to pay for wanting to be cutting edge :rolleyes: ) but OK, overall I still think it's a great phone but not one worth paying close to $700 ETF :eyebulge::eyebulge: (plus don't forget, Sprint will charge you a $35 activation fee, too)

Imagine the kind of computer you can get for that kind of money these days. (or even an Apple iPad which is quite the cool toy, despite its shortcomings)

Hang on!!

tomato

06-29-2010, 09:00 PM

Sooooooo ... this is probably a good time for a little EVO feedback

EVO is working out OK. Still warming up to Sense's widgets and stuff (read, I still don't know how to use Sense ;). Sometimes, I just prefer to launch the applications myself, the old Vanilla Android way, rather than use Sense's widgets, to be honest.

My unit had a couple of little issues. I have the light leakage peeps mentioned in the geek forums (when you are in a dark environment, you can clearly see a bit of light come out from under the "home" and "back" keys) but I don't have the problem with the screen coming out.

I intend to put the EVO in a tough-case as soon as one becomes available on otterbox.com or case-mate.com anyway, so I think that'll keep the unit sealed and extra-protected and the light leakage will become a non-issue.

I've installed a bunch of conservative apps, a lot of Google stuff mostly, nothing to write home about, and a couple of games, paper toss,a version of pacman, labyrinth lite. I still have 100 MB worth of space. So far, I found what I needed in the free app market.

I put a ZAGG screen protector on the phone. http://www.zagg.com/ It looked a little funky for the first day or so, but now that it's cured, it looks great and there are fewer fingerprints on the screen now.

Small things I noticed and could do without:

Phone has a hard time deciding if it wants to turn on, at times. Once, I had to remove the battery from the unit and put it back, and then the phone was fine after that. Will have to watch that.

We got an OTA update yesterday, and the phone was buggy afterwards. Some native widgets refused to load properly, displayed error messages despite repeated reboots. I fixed it by deleting the widget and reinstalling it. This morning, another widget was acting up, again, deleted the widget and reinstalled it. Seems to have fixed it for now.

Other than that, no issue with the phone. Haven't yet experienced 4G speeds, but at times 3G seems to be plenty fast if you can believe that.

For the locals: I get good coverage with Sprint, in the East Bay, in San Francisco, OK on BART but no signal on MUNI underground. I believe the Sprint network is much more solid than T-Mo's and AT&T's right now (I know TMo is trying to catch up with HSPA+ so don't discount them entirely), otherwise, Sprint in SF is comparable to VZW in terms of network coverage.

Battery lasts me an entire day, generally, but I'm a light user (couple of hours of internet, emails pushed through all day, tweets / FB updates every couple of hours). I don't talk much on the phone.

I find that use the camera much more than I did the N1's (probably because it's easier to see the screen outside in day light). The only thing I don't like about the camera is that it gives a blue hue in the shade but you can probably change that in the settings if you have time to do it when you take the shot.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the phone. Well done, HTC! :bow:

PS. I have shown my phone to a few of the guys who work at the Apple store the other day, and they *really* like it. :biggrin: I think it's the screen size that makes everybody go "wow" or maybe they know a good thing when they see one ? :smile:

tomato

06-29-2010, 09:53 PM

@ Vioz. I'm happy overall with the phone, but I STILL WOULDN'T PAY UPWARDS OF $650 ETF and various other fees to get it!!!

I was not on contract with anyone when I jumped ship, and I would *most definitely* have kept my N1 if I could have had signal during my commute :/ (which is when I use the phone the most). The N1 is pretty much the equivalent to the Moto Droid so I meant what I said earlier.

Kal-El

06-30-2010, 12:19 AM

I really want a evo now, im stuck with the moto droid on verizon, to cancel my contract is 320$ per line and i have 2 lines :( to get with sprint, should've went with them in the beggining cheaper rates and good service in my area and the evo is sick

Yeah, as Tomato said, don't leave Verizon just to get the EVO. On July 15th, the Droid X will be released and it is almost the same phone as far as size/specs go. Plus, you may be able to upgrade from your Droid early thus saving you many hundreds of dollars. And Motorola build quality is arguably better.

Kioshi

06-30-2010, 02:12 AM

tomato

06-30-2010, 12:53 PM

There is always a new device right around the corner. If you don't like the offerings, just wait, something better is bound to come out sooner or later. :iono:

tomato

07-01-2010, 09:27 PM

This morning I decided to photograph my commute, took about 15 - 20 pics between the house and work, and emailed them. Had the phone on for maybe an hour, doing that. Killed task when not using the phone with Task Killer. By the time I got to work about an hour later, battery was like 50% drained. :rolleyes: (EVO, stock)

Gonna be shopping for a spare battery I think. Still gonna keep the phone, but will have to buy : car charger, spare battery.

How do you peeps make the most out of your battery?

Vioz

07-01-2010, 10:39 PM

why won't Verizon put front cameras on THEIR versions of these smartphones?
They have Skype, I want to utilize the video call feature on Skype w/ Verizon's phone...

The Droid X should have added the front facing camera~
Or....is Verizon waiting for their 4G launch..then after that?

That was one of the main reasons i liked it because of the front facing camera, and was kind of pissed when i found out the droid x didn't have one.

So im going to wait actually around december, they said the new Android 3.0 is coming out around mid-october and they are only available to phones with a minimum system requirement of 1ghz proccessor, and 512 mb ram or suttim like that, so basically evo's, droid 2.0, droid x is going to get the update, but that also means and a small rumor going around that the first 2.0 processor is going to come out around then and hopefully motorola or htc come out with a nice phone with a front facing camera and 2.0 processor and so much i can't wait til christmas

oh yea im eligible for an upgrade in november 2011 :(

Kioshi

07-01-2010, 10:51 PM

That was one of the main reasons i liked it because of the front facing camera, and was kind of pissed when i found out the droid x didn't have one.

So im going to wait actually around december, they said the new Android 3.0 is coming out around mid-october and they are only available to phones with a minimum system requirement of 1ghz proccessor, and 512 mb ram or suttim like that, so basically evo's, droid 2.0, droid x is going to get the update, but that also means and a small rumor going around that the first 2.0 processor is going to come out around then and hopefully motorola or htc come out with a nice phone with a front facing camera and 2.0 processor and so much i can't wait til christmas

oh yea im eligible for an upgrade in november 2011 :(

I use to own a samsung Omnia, from last year...it too had a front facing camera..but it was covered up by Verizon. All the covers for it had a hole in the front for its purpose...

I'll wait a year...see what comes during the CES show.
My contract expires next year as well...

tomato

07-02-2010, 12:13 AM

custom rom, download Autokiller, it will keep ur phone in check. switch gps and bt off if ur not using it, set brightness to 1/4. minimize animations and disable live wallpapers

Yeah, i don't think I can root my phone. They had it rooted for a while in the beginning shortly after release, then Sprint and HTC issued an update that killed the process. I'm sure it's a matter of time before someone finds another hack/

what's BT?

Do you use the Pro version of Task Killer?

(I found part of the problem after I posted. I had the radio running in the background all morning. It $!@#$ auto-launches !!) But still, I 've already noticed that the camera sucks the battery dry.

Shroomster

07-02-2010, 04:02 AM

BT=bluetooth, Verizon customers really don't know what it is, except for that it lets them use an earpiece or a car speaker system to talk through....no offense.

Verizon locks down BT and other sharing to 'safe guard' their customers.

and Pk, Gps only runs when you want it to, unless some app runs in background using it? I'm getting about 2-days or so out of my MT3g....

Rain

07-02-2010, 12:52 PM

BT=bluetooth, Verizon customers really don't know what it is, except for that it lets them use an earpiece or a car speaker system to talk through....no offense.

Verizon locks down BT and other sharing to 'safe guard' their customers.

LOL and that's why I'll never be a Verizon customer because I like syncing over BT and been doing it since my first smartphone had it in 2003 :laugh:

--
Question.. is there a simpler way to close an application?
Aside from going to the applications manager which takes forever to load? Do I have to get an APP for that?

tomato

07-02-2010, 12:58 PM

Backing out is enough only for some applications, but most of the time, you have to use the task killer as well. Some apps auto-launch which is annoying as hell.

Rain

07-02-2010, 01:07 PM

Which ones auto launch? I didn't even notice that...

tomato

07-02-2010, 01:17 PM

I can't answer that, I don't know what apps you're running or what phone you have.

The best way to see what's running IMO is to download Task Killer (I have the free version) or wait until PK logs in and he'll tell you what he uses. PK really knows his way around an Android phone or ask the guys with Moto Droid's and similar phones. :bow: I'm just getting started w this technology :smile:

Shroomster

07-02-2010, 01:31 PM

turn off your phone then turn it back on....open task manager/ or a task killer. those will be initial start up apps. most likely they will also be auto start apps.

I know for a fact, that voice dial, messaging, and alarm clock auto start, why? I don't know.

but if Pk could also explain the Gps better than I did. I just like not having to tell apps to restart everytime I want to use them because they need GPS.(either agree with me or explain the benefit of not having it turned on)

other than that everything Pk said about battery life extension is 100% on point. plus there are apps that will even do almost all of his reccomendations for you AT specified times of your choosing (like when you're asleep to turn off all wireless connectivity and screen brigtness to 25% until xx:xx am then turn it back on)

GeneralDon7

07-02-2010, 01:56 PM

Vioz

07-02-2010, 02:01 PM

There is an extended battery a company made on droidforums.net but thats for the moto droid only, and it kind of sticks out, they are in the process of making a slimmed version to fit like a regular battery

Vioz

07-02-2010, 03:00 PM

What is pretty cool is that i read up that if you have an issue with your android os on your phone you can give a call up or somehow contact support at android and they take over your phone for you and do all the work, kinda scary but easier since they don't have to walk u through it

tomato

07-02-2010, 03:50 PM

The one thing keeping me from the Evo besides the fact I'm on verizon, is I heard the battery life isnt all that great. But I been hearing the Droid X has had excellent reviews on its battery life (10+ hours with moderate use), has anyone else seen reviews like this? Battery life isnt the only factor in a phone for me, but a pretty big one. I looked at the original Droid in the store and fell in love with it, if I could afford the monthly data plan I would have gotten it, but now the Droid X has made this even more tempting.

The battery on the EVO usually lasts me 10 to 12 hours on average, sometimes longer, with light use throughout the day. Stuff that sucks the battery dry: camera, streaming audio or video, YouTube etc... continuously, anything that moves large chunks of data for extended periods of time, apps like Google maps, Google earth....

Some heavy users have 2 devices, one BB and something else. (The BB's battery is f'n awesome.) :bow:

Anyway the EVO's battery is not great but not a deal breaker IMO. I intend to buy an extra one, just like I used to when I has my old NIKON camera. A bit of a pain but no big deal.

tomato

07-02-2010, 04:48 PM

PS. I was online most of the morning on my phone today, still have 50% of battery left. It's after lunch now. Not bad.

Shroomster

07-02-2010, 08:29 PM

not always Shroom, there is a bug with google maps it sometimes "forgets" to quit properly and GPS pings away like crazy. You will notice this when your phone starts to heat up. And don't forget if you select Allow Google to know your position the phone will periodically ping its location to update the google service. AutoKiller is a great app btw , you can set your memory thresholds as well as kill any process that slows your phone down or drains the batt. I would suggest to download system monitor this will show you which app and device is eating your battery

:thumbup: thanks for the info!

tomato

07-02-2010, 10:24 PM

PK, I suspect you are getting better battery life also because you are rooted.

More battery tips here

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/18547-new-evo-battery-life-sticky-please-contribute.html

tomato

07-04-2010, 09:14 PM

Roger that. ^

Well, my 30 day grace period is officially over, effective today. Looks like I got myself a phone :headbang:

GeneralDon7

07-04-2010, 09:24 PM

The battery on the EVO usually lasts me 10 to 12 hours on average, sometimes longer, with light use throughout the day. Stuff that sucks the battery dry: camera, streaming audio or video, YouTube etc... continuously, anything that moves large chunks of data for extended periods of time, apps like Google maps, Google earth....

Some heavy users have 2 devices, one BB and something else. (The BB's battery is f'n awesome.) :bow:

Anyway the EVO's battery is not great but not a deal breaker IMO. I intend to buy an extra one, just like I used to when I has my old NIKON camera. A bit of a pain but no big deal.

+1 on the blackberry, Mine lasts at least 3 days before needing a recharge and I'm constantly using it. Well I'm glad to hear you can get a good amount out of the battery, that gives me hope if I decide to go with that.

tomato

07-04-2010, 10:48 PM

Yeah, that's about what I was getting with the BB, 3 1/2 days approx.

EVO battery lasts me all day and then some with light / moderate data use (emails pushed through all day, Twitter, FB updates, light internet use on and off all day, a few short phone calls, maybe a few pictures with the camera cause it's fun to use it's hard to keep away from it, and the GPS and live wall papers on) but the minute you start moving large chunks of data, streaming video or audio, watch TV, download a bunch of music, use WIFI, Google Navigation, or play games continuously for an extended period of time then the battery drains about twice as fast, phone will last about 1/2 day instead, so plan for that, have a charger handy at work, another in your car, and/or a spare battery.

tomato

07-06-2010, 04:20 PM

speed is not so much the issue with the EVO. Phone flies pretty much all the time. I *rarely* experience any lag with that thing :bow:

to be honest, I like my wallpapers. :redface:

tomato

07-09-2010, 08:14 PM

... f'ck!!!!! :mad::mad:
I just dropped my phone!!! :rolleyes:

Thank goodness, the phone doesn't seem to have registered any problem, so far...

That does it I'm ordering a temporary silicon case *immediately*
Still waiting for otterbox and case-mate to come out with their tough cases for the EVO *sigh*

tomato

07-11-2010, 02:16 PM

Just got my Amzer silicon case in the mail yesterday.

Perfect fit, easy to put on and take off (maybe a little too easy to take off?) but great value for the money. Now I can put my phone down on its back without worrying about scratching the camera lense. Pfeww.

And the silicon is a bit rugged, makes for a better grip. Looks like it's been treated to repel lint. I like it.

eTiMaGo

07-11-2010, 02:42 PM

turn off live wallpapers and see the increase in speed and battery life. thats an option that is completely useless IMO on a phone.

Nonsense! I find my aquarium live wallpaper to be soothing, something to break the monotony of a long day at work :D

tomato

07-11-2010, 05:37 PM

you're French :biggrin: figures.....

You're French, figures, eh.

Aww, come on, you knew I was gonna say that :wink::biggrin:

tomato

07-11-2010, 05:40 PM

Thomas, consider getting one of these for when you're bored at work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFoB2mutDxM

not an Android exactly but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone makes an Android version of the same thing :wink:

tomato

08-08-2010, 11:02 PM

holy cow, I have found my new phone!!!!!

Woooooooooooot

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/08/08/htc-s-new-android-world-phone-leaks-may-hit-verizon-in-2011/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+phonedog_cellphoneblog+%28Pho neDog.com+Cell+Phone+articles%29

a high end Android phone, with a real KB, that works on both CDMA and GSM?!!! I'm in looove :wub: :wub:

tomato

08-09-2010, 11:27 PM

*cough* *cough*

Kioshi

08-13-2010, 04:27 AM

tomato, any info you've found about japanese input on the Droid phones?
I did some research today and found a few, but most are unstable.

On some websites it says 2.1 version has IME for Chinese, Japanese characters...
Not sure if you've accessed it by any chance on your phone...?

I can get a new phone in less than one month, so it says on my Verizon billing page....so I am debating between Android and iPhone 4 now...

I've got accustomed to inputting japanese letters on the phone im using here, so i would love to keep going with it~

Mucho gracias.

tomato

08-15-2010, 10:27 PM

Kioshi

08-16-2010, 06:36 AM

Kioshi I didn't find out anything at all, sorry. You may have to take your question to an android forum instead and ask a bilingual Japanese / English speaker :iono:

Sorry. :frown: I meant well when I'd say I'd look into it, but it's not something i can test since I don't speak Japanese, wouldn't know what to do with the app, how to work with it or whatever. I use the standard Google apps that came with the phone and text in English only, which works OK for me.

I've already done thorough searches on android forums...of all which people link to threads that seem to go nowhere, other than one app, but doesn't seem to work half the time.

I thought maybe you could look into the regional settings and see if you are able to change the keyboard/text buttons into japanese by any chance...

It be almost like getting feedback from a live person, who lives not too far away from me :tongue:

eTiMaGo

08-16-2010, 07:56 AM

Kioshi

08-16-2010, 11:06 AM

Kioshi, let me try on mine, there is an application called "MoreLocale" that lets you force the phone into different languages (if supported).

Some applications support Japanese (great, now i don't know how to put it back to English), but the stock keyboard remains in ABC.

mind you, if it is like Thai, for the phones that are officially sold here, they have a thai keyboard app bundled.

Trying to find a japanese keyboard app, but all I can find is Japanese girls... There's some programs that seem promising, but as the descriptions are in in japanese, I can't help much :laugh:

I never heard of MoreLocale....I'll have to do research when i come back from Japan...as the internet cafes' here are quite a few mins away from me:smile:

Sometimes Japanese girls lead to good things :laugh:
Are you searching it on your phone or on the computer? If you can provide me the link, i can read the japanese if the reviews for the certain app are good or not.

Thank you so much eTiMago.
I dont think the keyboard layout will be like the phones that are bundled with it in specific regions. I couldn't find the exact layout as how Japanese phones here are bundled with. I became use to this prepaid phone here, so i could adapt to a different layout after a while.

Thanks again, really appreciate it.

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:28 AM

PK: Congrats!! and enjoy the little Froyo perks ;) You should find your device functioning faster and more efficiently, among other little goodies.

However, please tell us if you notice anything different in the way Google is pushing email. For some reason I don't get my notifications the way I used to before (checked the settings already, they're the same), but now only my primary account receives notifications in a timely manner, not the second one which I have to manually refresh otherwise nothing comes through. That's a bit annoying.

Also, the Facebook app for Froyo appears to be on steroids, and has taken liberties I don't really approve of. Like it's imported my FB profile and photo into my main messaging system, which caused me to accidentally text a business associate with my facebook profile and picture attached to my contact info... Ooooops. Luckily it's a perfectly decent picture, but still... again, I checked the settings and I wasn't set to "sync" so I don't know why it's doing that.

Google has a tendency to aggregate everything (like when they first released Buzz) so watch out for these things.

Truthfully, I haven't had time to play with my phone as extensively as I want to, but I will report further bugs and stuff i you guys are interested.

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:40 AM

Anyone else rocking Froyo?

Shroomster

08-17-2010, 04:14 AM

grrr...my mytouch has been screwy the past few days....finally uninstalled mobile defense and now it's not in the market anymore WTH....

phone was force closing mobile defense on startup and I was getting 'No Service' so no tmo signal....weird...

Kal-El

08-17-2010, 08:16 AM

Anyone else rocking Froyo?

Yup, got the 2.2 update for my original Droid last week. Very nice but not a significant difference. My wife hasn't gotten hers yet and we both got our Droids together last December.

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:02 PM

mmmm Facebook....the privacy killer...
Gmail is working fine, i can actually select the interval at which it checks.

So do I and yet, my secondary account doesn't fetch unless I do it manually.
I guess I'm gonna have to troubleshoot that one, maybe delete the account and recreate it (on the unit) :iono:

As to Privacy *cough* *cough* yeah, I think we gave that up with gmail already :biggrin:

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:15 PM

I've already done thorough searches on android forums...of all which people link to threads that seem to go nowhere, other than one app, but doesn't seem to work half the time.

I thought maybe you could look into the regional settings and see if you are able to change the keyboard/text buttons into japanese by any chance...

It be almost like getting feedback from a live person, who lives not too far away from me :tongue:

Yeah, I see some options to Asian languages but I have no ideas what languages they are since they are in Asian ! Also, I wouldn't dream of switching that option on because what do I do then to get back to English? :confused:

I'm happy to let you play with my phone but the easiest thing would still be for you to walk into a store and play with the demo unit and get all your q's answered right then. The units are live and you can download apps and everything. :iono:

Or, we can have a meet when you get back and you can look at mine :smile:

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:25 PM

you did if you are the type of person that just clicks away indiscriminately without reading (not that YOU Tomato are like that). People need to stop being lazy (not that you are again) and expect technology to do their work for them and be over reliant on the said technology. Just remember everyone garbage IN garbage OUT

I hear ya. Just remember, though, when they launched BUZZ, they connected everybody in your GMAIL address book by default one day you woke up, and realized you were following other people or they followed you by default, without your knowledge.

The problem is that your email account isn't your buddy list. People promptly started to complain (ex-spouse "seeing" new spouse's info, etc.) and Google changed the default settings after that, but I find it shocking that they wouldn't foresee something like that... oh well.

Yeah, you have to be careful - as much as possible.

PS. don't get me wrong, I still love Google, and most of the stuff they do :bow: but they fcked up with BUZZ IMO.

eTiMaGo

08-17-2010, 02:25 PM

tomato, also keep in mind HTC's Sense adds its own layer of Facebook integration, though I'm not sure to what extent on the Evo.

tomato

08-17-2010, 02:31 PM

^ Yeah, OK, I see what you're saying. There is indeed an extra layer of sense doing it's own thing. One FB app was preloaded and I don't use it. I use the FB app I downloaded myself off the market but there may still be some hidden settings in there.

Sense has some cool stuff but I might just revert back to straight android. I don't use most widgets anyway.
There is a bunch of stuff on my phone I don't want (don't need Sprint Navigation since I have Google Maps) taking up valuable space.

Looks like I have my work cut out to try figure that stuff out. :smile:

tomato

08-17-2010, 11:01 PM

I don't know if I should post this in the bitch /rant section or in here, but here goes.

Ever since my FroYo update, my gmail accounts no longer sync to the EVO. Only the primary account syncs but that's it. The other one(s) has (have) to be refreshed manually which is kind of a pain.

I thought something was screwy with my unit so I called HTC to see if they have any suggestions. They initially asked me what I did to cause the problem (uh? gee thanks, guys!) checked the settings with me and found everything in order, then blamed 3rd party apps on the problems, and then eventually told me to reset the phone to factory default and call them back if the problem persists.

hmmm...

Reset to factory default is kind of a last resort thing I think, so I decided to poke around and see if anyone else is having the issues... sure enough, bam

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/evo-froyo-gmail-sync/

Grrrrr

At least now I know, it isn't sopmething I did (or didn't do) [sure blame the user, always blame the user :rolleyes:]

I blame Sense myself, rather than 3rd party apps, but OK . Grrrr...

Factory reset probably won't hurt but what a fn pain *sigh*

tomato

08-18-2010, 02:11 AM

Google is aware of the problem

http://www.google.vu/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=029c90bd520ef09b&hl=en

says they're working with HTC now

only phones affected (apparently) are HTC evo and HTC desire (since the Froyo update)

tomato

08-18-2010, 05:02 AM

Kioshi

08-18-2010, 05:33 AM

^ thanks for digging through your phones sub-menus.
i cant wait to take my jet-lagged face into stores tomorrow morning :)

eTiMaGo

08-18-2010, 06:25 AM

at least you won't have to root the device and manually copy over fonts like we have to do for Thai :biggrin:

Kioshi

08-18-2010, 06:38 AM

^ seriously? you'd think they would have all that prepackaged for the region right?

eTiMaGo

08-18-2010, 09:33 AM

well if you buy the phones officially from the local distributor, yes. But if you bought the phone (cheaper) from overseas, then you gotta do that.

Kioshi

08-18-2010, 10:00 AM

there's always a catch to these "cheaper" things, isn't there ;)

Shroomster

08-18-2010, 12:37 PM

@kioshi I believe I have the answer you were looking for. Yes there is a place in the setting where you can have more than 1 KB available for texting and you can switch forth and back at will. As to what Asian language you can use exactly, I just don't know because I can make out the characters, but you could if you looked at them. So, head out to a store near you and go play with the demo unit. You'll find your answer. This is on HTC Sense with Froyo 2.2

Tomato

oh that stuff?

under text/locale (on mytouch) all i need to do is activate any kb I upload to the device....
then when I want to use it, longpress on the text box and it will say input method and select that then it will bring up list of Keyboards available...

tomato

08-22-2010, 04:05 PM

for those who are still following ...

Received the Froyo update OTA from Sprint 2 weeks ago. For a while, there were problems, such as my gmail accounts weren't pushing mail properly / were not syncing (BTW sorry if I seemed to be logged in but did not respond to PM's, I really wasn't getting any msgs); also, unable to change screen passwords, other little things. Looked like we got a defective version of Froyo or something.

Peeps in Android forums and on Google board reported the exact same problem so although HTC told me to wipe my handset clean, I decided to sit tight and wait based on a Google's employee's post in response to our reporting the problem (saying they were gonna push a "fix" but it was up to the carriers to send it through). Sure enough, a few days later, things are back to normal, only with Froyo, your device is indeed a little faster. Can't tell if it saves much battery, however.

Now if only Sprint hadn't disabled the free tethering option :rolleyes:

At the moment, there is no way to root the EVO on Froyo (that I know of) so I'm still stock, running pretty generic apps and pretty happy with both the device and the network coverage with Sprint. Still no 4G lit up in my area yet, but that's OK, 3G is plenty fast for basic tasks.

tomato

08-23-2010, 02:27 PM

Now before (on Eclair) I was able to turn Sense OFF. Not sure EVO on Froyo will let me do that. Gotta investigate.

Kioshi

08-24-2010, 05:52 AM

HTC Sense does suck....i tried it and it linked my contacts list w/ facebook....every info was on there. I turned it off and deleted it. Much better~

Are us Incredible users the only ones in the shadow for the Froyo update? Reading rumors of receiving the update in Sept.
Although I'm still getting use to this new OS...
And i did get Japanese support on here...a bit different than in the native land, but getting use to it slowly.
Thanks everyone!

eTiMaGo

08-24-2010, 09:38 AM

So I've got my hands on a Samsung Galaxy S, belongs to a friend who just can't get used to Android... gonna use for a while, mostly because it has different baseband frequencies and I could actually use 3G, which I cannot on my Motorola (2100MHz is not available for 3G here yet, so phones and providers must either support 800MHz or 900MHz, it's a real mess...)

Kioshi

08-24-2010, 12:37 PM

how are you liking the Samsung Galaxy S?

Shroomster

08-24-2010, 01:07 PM

eTiMaGo

08-24-2010, 01:41 PM

how are you liking the Samsung Galaxy S?

hmmm so far mixed feelings... It's rather light, and I quite like the heft of the Milestone/Droid in comparison. and I do miss the physical keyboard.

But on the other hand, it's real fast and responsive (I'm using LauncherPro instead of the pretty-but-clunky stock Samsung home screen).

But the screen is the biggest love/hate. It's bigger, yes, the colors are amazingly vibrant, but it's just nowhere as sharp as the plain old LCD on the motorola...

oh well, I will play around with it for a few days, turns out 3G's a no-go as well :iono:

tomato

08-24-2010, 09:26 PM

@ Thomas

1. KB : you will get used to it. I'm a bad example because I'm so slow when I txt but I can guarantee you that after a while, you don't miss the physical KB at all

2. Not having 3G is a little more annoying and would give me pause

3. Amoled is better indoors but not outside in the sun. I can see the EVO out in the sun much better than the N1 (in fact that was a consideration when I went to the EVO)

One more thing you might consider. Reviewers out here say that historically the Samsungs's skins are not as easy to upgrade so slower to get newer OS's (I can't find the link now and that may not apply to your carriers over there)

Myself, I find the Samsung Epic extremely attractive

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-epic-4g-review/

but now that I'm locked into a contract, whatever phone coming out is going to have to be a HUGE improvement over mine to make me want to trade.

Believe it or not, on occasion I still miss the N1 for some things (the KB size was ***IDEAL*** for one, I find it hard to type on the EVO b/c of screen size.. Plus, you could operate the N1 w/ one hand, not so with the EVO due to its size) of course, the N1 had straight FroYo, no carrier bloatware and/or blocks on it, plus a sim card so easy to swap, free tether ...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that your new phone may offer some new features that your Moto Droid doesn't have but if it's not a huge leap forward, I'd save my money and wait for something better if I were you. You know it's only a matter of months until something even better than the Samsung, EVO, etc. comes out and your milestone is still an excellent phone in many ways :iono:

tomato

08-24-2010, 09:28 PM

HTC Sense does suck....i tried it and it liked my contacts list w/ facebook....every info was on there. I turned it off and deleted it. Much better~

Are us Incredible users the only ones in the shadow for the Froyo update? Reading rumors of receiving the update in Sept.
Although I'm still getting use to this new OS...
And i did get Japanese support on here...a bit different than in the native land, but getting use to it slowly.
Thanks everyone!

Yes, it does that. You have to dig deep in the settings to turn that feature off. Try to go to settings applications and unsync everything there. There are 2 or 3 layers you have to go through before you can unsync it completely.

I know it did the same thing the day after my Froyo update. I sent a message to a business associate as I usually did, only it that time it went out with my FB profile complete with the "cute" name and "cute" picture I have on there... didn't notice until after I sent the message :mad: Doh! Embarassing... that's when I noticed that somehow all my contacts were merged. Grrrr.... Turned that off in a hurry!! :rolleyes:

Did you pick up an Incredible? I thought you were still under contract with Sprint?

..

Mytouch 3g.....Tmobile put in their quarterly mag for mytouch users that we will def get the froyo but no eta.... at all...except for "by the end of the year"

Yeah, that sounds about right. It's because the my touch has some complicated UI on it and they have to make sure everything will work...

Kioshi

08-25-2010, 12:55 AM

Yes, it does that. You have to dig deep in the settings to turn that feature off. Try to go to settings applications and unsync everything there. There are 2 or 3 layers you have to go through before you can unsync it completely.

I know it did the same thing the day after my Froyo update. I sent a message to a business associate as I usually did, only it that time it went out with my FB profile complete with the "cute" name and "cute" picture I have on there... didn't notice until after I sent the message :mad: Doh! Embarassing... that's when I noticed that somehow all my contacts were merged. Grrrr.... Turned that off in a hurry!! :rolleyes:

Did you pick up an Incredible? I thought you were still under contract with Sprint?

I went somewhere under settings and unsynced the Facebook Sense specifically since I didn't set up/login to my Twitter/Flicker, etc accounts.
I probably will end up deleting that app sometime in a few weeks?:thumbdown:

I was almost done w/ my contract w/ verizon. And the plan was to switch to Sprint because of the HTC EVO. I played around w/ all three phones (EVO, Moto Droid X, and Incredible).
In my opinion, Moto droid X is a very thin phone but extremely big in Length and Width...it does not look like a phone to me.
EVO, a wee bit too big of a screen for me and a little heavy in my jeans :tongue:
Incredible has a reasonable screen size and lightweight. Although no video chat due to missing front camera (1.3mp) :frown:

I like it. I wish some of these recent HTC phones had roaming capabilities overseas..but i guess thats what BB are for~

BTW, tomato - where is a good place to get covers for these phones? Any recommendations?

Shroomster - sorry to hear that man. Thats two of us then!
Like tomato said, they are probably working around the different US and want it perfect for the other phones, i suppose~

tomato

08-25-2010, 01:41 AM

@kioshi:

1) cases: HTC Depot is good, has a lot of stuff. I never ordered from them but the site was recommended by one of the tech guys at HTC and in one of the Android forums.

http://www.htcdepot.com/

2) I like case mate myself. I ordered a rubber case that looked exactly like a piece of tire for my N1 and really, really loved it.

http://artoftheiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Case-Mate-Vroom-iPhone-Case-for-3G-and-3GS.jpg

It was great quality and it looked really cool! They don't have much for the Incredible or Evo just yet but keep your eyes on them anyway, because they do make great stuff, stand behind their products, highly recommend them.

http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-Cases/HTC-Cases.asp

3) the best, sturdiest case out there : otterbox.

http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/

however they are still designing the case. I put my name down on the wait list so when something becomes available they will let me know by email. Probably well worth waiting for.

In the meantime, you could get an Amzer case. http://www.amzer.com/
I got a inexpensive one made of some kind of rubber, a little stronger than the silicone one and doesn't pick up any lint. It's not perfect but it does the job for now. without a case, the EVO rests on the camera lense so I had to get something right away.

one thing I did do right away, however, is to protect the screen with a ZAGG shield. I got mine at Radio Shack, same day I got the phone. It was pretty easy to install and well worth it if you're gonna put the phone in your pocket.

http://www.zagg.com/

It's all a matter of preference. Do you want sturdy, is it OK if its bulky? do you want something transparent / clear, do you want just a skin?

good luck with your decision. Hope the links above help some.

tomato

08-25-2010, 01:55 AM

I went somewhere under settings and unsynced the Facebook Sense specifically since I didn't set up/login to my Twitter/Flicker, etc accounts.
I probably will end up deleting that app sometime in a few weeks?:thumbdown:

~

Well, here is the thing. I don't use the HTC Facebook app that came preloaded with the phone. I use another FB app that I got on the market. The day after FroYo, everything got exported over, just the same and my settings got overwritten :iono:

There some noise over that on the Google board as well, but I was so miserable without my push email that I completely neglected the FB issue. I'm not entirely sure what's doing it, whether it's HTC Sense, whether it's FB for Froyo, or whether it's Froyo itself. One more thing to figure out ;)

I got the EVO because you could turn Sense off without rooting (not so on the Incredible) but that was b/f Froyo.

Shroomster

08-25-2010, 02:32 AM

I felt this post needs more than a "quote"

GET AN INVISIBLE SHIELD .... IF you're not hot blooded.

According to my wife I'm hot blooded/hot skinned

I had a Zagg/invisible shield on my Sony W810i. over the few years I had it, the protector deformed and yellowed. I finally took it off (the Shields are one time use) granted they have a lifetime warranty, but pulling the shield off was the scariest thing I did; the adhesive used on it felt to me like the screen was going to separate.

just my .02

short of the short: I vouch for Tomato's choice of the invisible shield, just be prepared if you keep it in your pocket alot and you sweat/have hot skin. this can probably be said for any screen protector but hey the one that came with my MT3G feels sturdy and has not deteriorated in 9 mos. use...

Kioshi

08-25-2010, 01:42 PM

thanks for the helpful links tomato, appreciate it. I went and bought a silicon cover just for now till the covers are developed/produced from the link you showed me.

Shroomster - i am hod-blooded...or at least palms become sweaty in non-ventilated ares~
I went and bought a protective screen cover frm Verizon as I get discount form my work, so it wasn't too bad.

nsmitchell

08-25-2010, 03:03 PM

I have a Moto Droid and I love it. Running Froyo 2.2 rooted. I love the WiFi tethering!

tomato

08-25-2010, 03:47 PM

^ good for you!! :smile:

The case that looks like a piece of tire is called the Vroom case, btw. They make them for iPod, iPhones, and other phones. It looks really cool in person :bow:

Kioshi

08-25-2010, 10:40 PM

^ i dont know HOW this happened but...when i took my 2 gig card out of my old phone and put into my Incredible...i was able to view the pictures for two days. But now it can't read my pictures on the card.
Further inspection, all the pics have turned into a .dir file.

Does anyone know how to get my pictures back w/ this scenario?really annoyed at the new phone right now...lol

tomato

08-25-2010, 11:07 PM

Kioshi

08-25-2010, 11:19 PM

Sorry, Kioshi, I don't know. Can't you download them and rename them? (always copy files first before messing with them) Worth a try...

Yeah, I"m annoyed with my phone too lately. They've blocked some of the settings I used to be able to access before.

Since you have HTC sense as well, let me ask you. When you type a sentence, do you get a period automatically inserted when you double space and is there a way to turn that off? It was an easy thing to do on the Nexus One but for the life of me, I can't find the damn setting on the EVO (and neither could the HTC guy). :iono:

when i insert the mini SD in my laptop...they are all (.dir) files. I can click them then i have to choose a image viewer program to see them. I can not relabel them or save as jpeg or anything. The files are pretty renderless....:cry:I had a few images from my trip on them as nice wallpapers....really hope someone can chime in on this and help me out~:frown:

No i actually don't on my phone. I downloaded Simeji and when i go under language and keyboard settings....there are options to mess around with ie: capitalize after period, auto correct suggestions, etc.
My keyboard layout is in Simeji style with a toggle switch, so my settings are altered a little now.
You should be able to fiddle around w/ the English keyboard under language and keyboard menu.

Let me know, i have my phone in front of me (pissed off at it for corrupting my images) and i can follow up w/ you promtly...

Also, i have Facebook HTC Sense, but it is turned off or not in use. I was able to do that on my Incredible :)

tomato

08-26-2010, 01:00 AM

thanks for the offer, Kioshi but I've checked all my settings already. There is nothing more to do. some of the stuff is grayed out / hidden from the settings menu and that's all there is to it.

I can totally understand why people root their phones :mad:

back to the google board, I guess. I'm sure someone else has noticed a similar thing on their unit. ugh.

sorry about your pictures, Kioshi

Shroomster

08-28-2010, 12:05 AM

when i insert the mini SD in my laptop...they are all (.dir) files. I can click them then i have to choose a image viewer program to see them. I can not relabel them or save as jpeg or anything. The files are pretty renderless....:cry:I had a few images from my trip on them as nice wallpapers....really hope someone can chime in on this and help me out~:frown:

No i actually don't on my phone. I downloaded Simeji and when i go under language and keyboard settings....there are options to mess around with ie: capitalize after period, auto correct suggestions, etc.
My keyboard layout is in Simeji style with a toggle switch, so my settings are altered a little now.
You should be able to fiddle around w/ the English keyboard under language and keyboard menu.

Let me know, i have my phone in front of me (pissed off at it for corrupting my images) and i can follow up w/ you promtly...

Also, i have Facebook HTC Sense, but it is turned off or not in use. I was able to do that on my Incredible :)

you can't drag and drop or copy paste them to another drive/computer?

if you can do that you can rename them or choose what to open them with....aside from that.....

try opening the containing folder on the card while tethered from the phone to a pc/laptop.

edit the name of a pic and type it as "name.jpg" <<<make sure to put the .jpg not just the name...

hope something helps....

Kioshi

08-28-2010, 11:50 PM

you can't drag and drop or copy paste them to another drive/computer?

if you can do that you can rename them or choose what to open them with....aside from that.....

try opening the containing folder on the card while tethered from the phone to a pc/laptop.

edit the name of a pic and type it as "name.jpg" <<<make sure to put the .jpg not just the name...

hope something helps....

THANK YOU!!:bow::w00t:

I renamed the files and add .jpeg and it turned them into image files.
Very helpful for someone like me who isn't big on computer knowledge~ :help:

I have 180 files to rename and transfer to my Incredible now, lol.

Shroomster

08-31-2010, 01:08 PM

WOOT! Glad I was able to help!!!

Kioshi

08-31-2010, 08:00 PM

Last but not least..question~

What email app is everyone using? I may have overlooked this if it happened to tomato or anyone else on here...forgive me >_<

HTC Mail default app can't hold my 1000 emails that i have stored on hotmail.
It says not enough memory on phone even though i have memory...
I read through this forum - http://forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/12215-htc-mail-memory-leak-bug-phone-storage-getting-low.html
And here - http://androidforums.com/incredible-support-troubleshooting/71544-internal-phone-storage-unavailable.html

I started using K9 mail app....but it has serious problems receiving new emails...and skipped emails from 2009 and downloaded from 2008 to 2006 for me...LOL.

I am just going into web browser and checking hotmail that way for right now~

I have emails from 2006 to reference back to, they come in handy thats why I'd like to be able to view them from my phone on the go.

Shroomster

09-01-2010, 03:05 AM

Sheesh I though 100 emails was a lot...I've been using the provided email apps.

I have a question myself:

I just made a new (professional) email lol, no more incubus_5225; Anyway to force the phone to use the new email address?

NVM I just found how lol >>>>HOW TO CHANGE MAIN EMAIL ON ANDROID PHONE (http://androidforums.com/droid-support-troubleshooting/22498-change-gmail-account-how.html)

Kioshi

09-01-2010, 04:18 AM

the provided email app will easily hold 100 emails , you shouldn't worry Shroomster :)
So i read the froyo pdf file for incredible and what has changed for it - http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/incredible.pdf

hope the email thing gets resolved... :(
Because BB users could have 2000 plus emails w/o any freezing or low memory messages...
dont see why its not possible on Android OS smartphones....

Shroomster

11-06-2010, 01:16 PM

hey Kioshi I manually updated my phone to Froyo 2.2 and check this out :

In addition to the improvements above, the new update adds enhancements to Google Maps, YouTube app, Facebook app, and Twitter app, as well as the ability to add multiple languages to the keyboard.

it's true, lots of text packs available on the market

tomato

09-12-2011, 02:28 AM

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... I believe this is what you call a necro bump hehehe :biggrin::biggrin:

It's been about a year and I wonder how many more have switched to Android since we started the thread?

I still have my EVO 4G, and it's working out OK. Got the Gingerbread update a while back and didn't notice very much difference, except for some small cosmetic stuff.

Battery still sucks more than ever (probably lasts about 1/2 day, these days - but I use it more extensively than I did before) but overall the phone still performs pretty well. San Francisco has 4G but I rarely see it, except in some areas of the financial district. No biggy, since 3G has been pretty solid overall.

Looking back on it, I'm pretty happy with my decision.

How are you all doing with your phones?

Kioshi, do you still enjoy your Incredible?
Etimago? I know you dumped your Milestone a while back and replaced it?
PK? Still rocking that G1? hehe :smile:
Garm? Did you ever get rid of your Pre?
Shroomster, how is that MyTouch working for your wife?

Anyone else want to talk android to me? :biggrin:

Kal-El

09-12-2011, 08:45 AM

Altitude

09-12-2011, 09:59 AM

Battery still sucks more than ever...

Get Juice Defender. Using it on the default profile easily doubles battery life (for me anyway.)

eTiMaGo

09-12-2011, 02:00 PM

moar android! Now using a HTC Desire HD, Motorola Atrix (to get 3G), and a Motorola Xoom :D

Kioshi

09-12-2011, 03:33 PM

moar android! Now using a HTC Desire HD, Motorola Atrix (to get 3G), and a Motorola Xoom :D

Crazy....your Japanese aren't you, carrying two phones around :wink:

@ tomato - My power button stopped working (i think it was that stupid CHineses piece of shit MIUI roms fault), but other than that...it rocks.
I had a replacement sent (unrooted my phone and made it under warranty ;)) and i still love it. Nothing out there that is worth upgrading till NFC phones come out.

Tomato - root your phone, i swear....my phone charges from 40% to 90% in 30 mins, wall charged. Battery held its charge for a good 12-18 hours of usage.
My battery is exhausted now i think, it drains 5-8% right when i open up the browser haha.

I use it to tether, sometimes overclock it, phone calls, gps, photos, Japanese kanji flashcard learning...

I installed HTC sense 3.0...and went back to CM7 rom....waiting for a stable HTC Sense 3.5 rom.

Root your device

goliath1812

09-12-2011, 04:47 PM

Altitude

09-12-2011, 11:07 PM

word of wisdom , stay away from any apps like Juice Defender

I disagree. I was skeptical at first, but it makes a HUGE difference. Sure, it just turns off things when they're not in use and I could manually do the same. But this way I don't have to think twice about it.

In my case it wasn't bloatware because I rooted and removed all that crap. It is just a power hungry phone (Samsung Captivate).

It doesn't help people who use the phone constantly, but my phone gets a lot of downtime so it means I only need to charge every few days as opposed to every 12 hours or less. Well worth it IMHO.

tomato

09-13-2011, 12:30 AM

Traded my OG Droid in for the long awaited Motorola Droid Bionic on Saturday.

:thumbup:

Wow, what a tremendous phone. Makes my Droid 1 feel like a dinosaur (which was the top phone less than 2 years ago).

Super fast (dual core processor and 1 gig of RAM).

Love it!

:bow: that's a fantastic phone. I saw it today at the store and am literally green with envy. :respekt: Congrats and enjoy!

tomato

09-13-2011, 12:34 AM

I'm trading in....I've had an iPhone 3G for a while, getting an Evo 4G in the mail. Any tips on things to do to it, and how? (Rooting, etc.) I've never messed with my iPhone, I was always worried about bricking...

Congratulations on your purchase. I looked around and that EVO 4G is still a strong contender IMO. I played with the EVO 3G a bit and it is blazing fast, but I'm not a huge fan of the 3D picture thingy. Hurt my eyes!

There are faster phones out there, to be sure, but that EVO 4G is still a damn good phone.

However, I think at this point, I agree with the posters, I think we would get more out of the device if we root.

EVO just got Gingerbread over the air and it's nice enough (cosmetic differences mostly) but it's starting to get laggy, at times. Plus there are all these apps I don't need and can't get rid of, that are taking valuable space in the phone's internal memory.

Soooo, those of you who could do it in their sleep :bow::bow: (PK, Etimago, Kioshi, Altitude, etc.) could you kindly give us root-noobs some pointers so we don't have to roam each and every thread @ XDA ? :-)

Links, tips and tricks greatly appreciated :biggrin::biggrin:

tomato

09-13-2011, 12:40 AM

BTW, Sprint was pushing me to upgrade to an EVO 3G for only $50 for a while, but I declined. I want to keep my EVO 4G as long as I can, until I see the device I truly want (a "true" android world phone (GSM/CDMA), with a long battery life, and off contract). It could be another year or longer, until we see that. I'm secretely hoping that Google will make one, some day, now that the bought Motorola (never was a huge fan of Moto Blur). But we'll see. :)

Glad you guys are still enjoying your Android phones as much as I do !

http://images.findicons.com/files/icons/1790/large_android/48/android_sh.png

Kioshi

09-13-2011, 03:10 AM

Altitude, i want you to try and flash a different kernal....a kernal called...Chad's kernal.
Any battery saving app will diminish after you spend a week using that kernal on your phone.
He makes the BEST kernal. Best battery conserving, fastest charge times (bump charge especially).

And to those thinking about getting an HTC Evo 3D....BEWARE! HTC has something on it that logs everything you do (what app you use, when, location, etc) like big brother watching you.

BUT thanks to the xda developers, they have found out a way to remove this....so as long as you remove it, your free from the clutches of HTC monitoring your phone's activity.

Kioshi

09-13-2011, 03:15 AM

Soooo, those of you who could do it in their sleep :bow::bow: (PK, Etimago, Kioshi, Altitude, etc.) could you kindly give us root-noobs some pointers so we don't have to roam each and every thread @ XDA ? :-)

Links, tips and tricks greatly appreciated :biggrin::biggrin:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

Simply and easy. I suggest reading the instructions at least 3x..3 TIMES!
Not saying you are illiterate....its just...i did the same as i wanted to do everything correctly w/o bricking the phone.

Once you learn it, it becomes second nature to root your phone if you ever get a replacement....or flash different roms. :tongue:

@ tomato - try unrevoked as well....its super easy to root with that one too. Actually, thats what i used twice to root.

P.S - Almost all NCVC members have Android phones if not rooted haha....not sure about the ones i have not met yet.

tomato

09-13-2011, 11:48 PM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

Simply and easy. I suggest reading the instructions at least 3x..3 TIMES!
Not saying you are illiterate....its just...i did the same as i wanted to do everything correctly w/o bricking the phone.

Once you learn it, it becomes second nature to root your phone if you ever get a replacement....or flash different roms. :tongue:

@ tomato - try unrevoked as well....its super easy to root with that one too. Actually, thats what i used twice to root.

P.S - Almost all NCVC members have Android phones if not rooted haha....not sure about the ones i have not met yet.

Great read, thanks!! I agree with you, careful reading *ahead of time* :wink: could prove very useful.

I checked out unrevoked briefly. There is an app for that, too?!! Figures! Great stuff, thanks

Those of you who have rooted, any surprise or things I should know?

Kioshi

09-15-2011, 02:03 AM

Dont flash beta roms....they will be unstable. You wont be able to make calls and a whole other boat load of stuff.

Just flash CM7 and call it a day. Its stable enough to use everyday.

Or look at HTC custom roms that have been in development for a long time, those are the ones to go for.

Other than that, no surprises tomato.

Shroomster

09-16-2011, 02:56 AM

Kioshi...mind telling us what it is that HTC supposedly put on the phones to monitor? In all honesty it is most likely no different than every single other manufacturer putting snooping software/apps/monitors on phones. it's just that apple, htc and samsung have come to light for it for reasons I don't know

You kind of read in the last few posts of this thread as jilted somewhat by something....

I'm far too tired to go through and quote everything I want to right now....So I'll say it all right here

XDA forums = best thing I stumbled upon.

PAVEL if you get the sensation---LEEDrOiD rom is what I'm using and loving....rooted,S-off, 2.3.4 with newest features...I would wait though for the XE model or w/e they call it...it will have the dual core processor clocked to its correct (1.5) speed instead of underclocked to 1.2 (I think its that or they're putting a different processor in it not sure) BUT IT WILL HAVE 4 gb of INTERNAL.....OMGWTFILETMYMCGRIDDLE....

@Tomato well we just signed into a contract today actually and she upgraded to the 4g mytouch slide...I have the Sensation and we both are soooo happy with the phones.
I did root the slide but had to put it back as CM7 rom wasn't available (stable) yet for it and the rom I d/l didn't have bluetooth finished (dev's walked away to pursue rom cooking in the mytouch 4g non-slide area)

and before anyone gets confused:

Tomato you have the original EVO4g, the new evo's are:

-Evo shift w/keyboard (4g as well)
-Evo 3d (4g as well)
saw you kept typing evo 3g and yes the original evo is 4g somewhat(lot of reading to find out what 4g, lte, hsdpa, hsupa and wimaxx are all doing but hey)....but it is 4g....

Oh, I also rooted my mytouch 3g to gingerbread 2.3.4 but the things processor is still so slow and it's going to be a back up but sheesh....qHD resolution on a screen that is the same size as the entire mt3g's body...lol

tomato

09-18-2011, 03:03 PM

Thanks.

Sprint announced they were discontinuing most of the benefits I had under the Premier account, so I have no incentive to upgrade early. I saw the EVO 3G (when it came out, Sprint offered an early upgrade for $50 but I declined because the difference between the 3G and the 4G doesn't seem significant enough to warrant signing for another 2 years.

I'll just wait. I bet by the time I'm out of contract, there will be all kinds of offering on all other carriers (or whoever is left). That Droid Bionic (on VZW) is pretty awesome already. Can you even imagine what they're going to offer a year from now?! :drool:

Shroomster

09-18-2011, 10:21 PM

Lol there is already an upgraded version of the Sensation called the Xe but the only real diff is the 4gigs of internal...but something i read said only one gig is user accessable....

Maybe in a year the big 4 will go back to unlimited once they build up the infrastructures correctly.

tomato

11-18-2011, 11:45 PM

<--- rooted, at long last. Running CM 7.1. :bow:

First impressions are pretty good , except the CM keyboard is even worse than the HTC Sense Keyboard!, and the camera controls take a little getting used to (they're a bit smallish for my fingers, and harder to see the HTC Sense ones).

Other than that, the device feels faster, lighter, cleaner interface. And I can tether which is a huge plus for me. So far, no regrets ;)

Can anyone recommend a better KB?

And BTW, Kioshi is right about reading up a couple of times ahead of time!! yes, the process is relatively fast, but what takes a fair amount of time is trying to figure out what you're doing before hand, but it's a necessary step, even if you have a friend helping you, only so you understand what's going on.

Shroomster

11-19-2011, 08:52 PM

Wow congrats welcome to the rooted club. I don't know if it will work for your phone but ill look up the keyboard htc hack......

Also google snappz market....they might have the better keyboard app on there....

Shroomster

11-20-2011, 02:50 AM

Found it for ya tomato!

htc hi-res and lo-res keyboard hacks (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416)

Just take a look through and see what works for you....if you have any questions p/m me or ask on here....btw my handle on xda is the same here :)

Btw jsut so it doesn't scare you, it doesn't get rid of your current keyboard, it's an additional keyboard. It installs as a .apk and you check mark it in keyboard options then long press in a text box and select input method.....

cali yaris

11-20-2011, 02:34 PM

I'm reading up on rooting for my 2S. So far afraid to tackle it. CM looks like it has some features I want.

I'm a newb though - just started using voice commands, for example. :-/

Astroman

11-20-2011, 02:38 PM

Has anyone used or purchased the new Motorola Droid Razr? I'm seriously considering it to replace my 2 year old Blackberry Tour.

tomato

11-20-2011, 05:26 PM

@Shroomster : thanks for the tips. I'll look for you on XDA then.

@Garm : will all the peeps you know down in Southern Cal, I find it hard to believe that someone will NOT volunteer to help you out in person! Throw in a meal or a few MI stickers and I'm sure people will line-up outside your doorstep! I found the videos on Youtube somewhat useful to see the commands and what happens, rather than just read directions. I mean follow the directions you got, but watch the videos to familiarize yourself with the process, the vocabulary. Still, best is still to have a geek friend come over and help you out!

tomato

11-20-2011, 05:31 PM

@Astroman: check out Phonedog.com They have the most neutral advice and pretty much specialize on phone reviews. They also do "dog fights" (video comparisons between phones) and will tell you all you need to know, with a consumer-oriented slant. I used to follow Noah Kravitz's reviews on phonedog but now he's at Tech Buffalo. He's very neutral (does not write columns solely to advertise for phone companies!), and his advice is very sound.

Shroomster

11-20-2011, 05:57 PM

@Garm :Also check out the unlockr website. Pretty easy to follow write ups on unlocking phones with videos outlining the process.

Kioshi

11-22-2011, 11:59 PM

Sorry Shroomster for not getting back to you about the past post.

Its log files from HTC knowing what apps you use, when you use them, how often you use them, etc...and it applies not only to apps, but when you turn on your phone and of that sort.

Right now, they have the CIQ dilemma going on, which is similar to the above. ALthough HTC has been keen on giving the source code for the kernals of their latest phones..

Astroman - the phone is locked at the moment. the display looks vibrant on there compared to the Rezound.
I personally am waiting for the Galaxy Nexus, or at least see how BIG that thing is compared to an HTC Rezound....

I love my HTC Incredible, i hope they can get ICS running on it like CM7.

tomato - I am glad you rooted. F-Sense UI. Better battery life now. You should flash Chad's kernal for your phone, awesome fast charging and battery life.

tomato

11-28-2011, 02:15 AM

Slightly better battery life ;) I guess using the camera all the time will drain the phone, no matter what I'm running. But no regrets! :)

Kioshi

11-28-2011, 06:16 PM

Slightly better battery life ;) I guess using the camera all the time will drain the phone, no matter what I'm running. But no regrets! :)

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/25453-best-working-kernel-for-htc-evo-4g-with-cm7-rom/

I realized, Chad has only an Incredible, there for his kernal is not available for the EVO.

Get ready, Ice Cream Sandwich is on its way ;)

eTiMaGo

11-29-2011, 02:17 AM

there's a pretty advanced beta of ICS for the HTC HD2 (i.e. the phone that won't die), one of which I have on hand... time to give it a try tonight :D

eTiMaGo

11-29-2011, 11:57 AM

The one for the HD is AOSP from source code :D But I can't get it to run, I think my system partition is too small...

Kioshi

11-29-2011, 01:33 PM

The one for the HD is AOSP from source code :D But I can't get it to run, I think my system partition is too small...

Try redownloading the file again. A few Incredible phone users couldnt get ICS alpha build working as well. I hear great stuff about the hd2, wish i had it. That thing is a beast.

@ PK - there isnt any hardware accelerators in the ports...at least for incredible. Thats why its sluggish i think. But it can receive calls, browse web, text, and whatnot. I want the camera working at least.

tomato

11-30-2011, 02:50 AM

Well, I just had a look at the Galaxy Nexus in person

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/samsung-galaxy-nexus-video-review-part-1/

:bow::bow: :bow: that thing is a BEAST !!!!! The size is right, it feels like a dream in the hand (despite the large screen size), it's light, it's lightening fast, the screen is gorgeous... Man on man, that could be the Android phone of the year.

eTiMaGo

11-30-2011, 03:21 AM

man on man? I think I'll skip, then :laugh:

tomato

12-01-2011, 01:38 AM

:evil: Are you sure about that, Thomas?! :evil:

eTiMaGo

12-01-2011, 03:54 AM

read what *you* wrote in the previous post :laugh:

tomato

12-01-2011, 04:12 AM

autocorrect :rolleyes:

still, you picked up on that pretty quickly eh? :wink:

tomato

12-01-2011, 04:13 AM

Android handsets secretly logging keystrokes?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-57333652-17/android-handsets-secretly-logging-keystrokes-sms-messages/?ttag=fbw

Good read from CNet.

cali yaris

12-02-2011, 08:21 PM

Do you have to buy the new phone (Nexus) to get Ice Cream Sandwich, or can previous phones like my S II be upgraded?

Black Yaris

12-02-2011, 08:26 PM

iPhone..... /story :)

Shroomster

12-02-2011, 09:24 PM

iPhone..... /story :)

lol troll!

j/k...
in all fairness, iPhones are great for what they do, but suck for what they don't.

open source?
ease of sharing info/data with other non-apple products/i specific devices?
removable/user replaceable battery?
factory warranty/insurance?
long-term life of use/retrofitting 'outdated' products with new software?

(some of these things are debatable [I KNOW]) but seriously, the iHype is way too out of control, people shouldn't be selling their children (really) to get computers....

Kal-El

12-02-2011, 09:42 PM

iPhone..... /story :)

I could never go back to a tiny phone like the iPhone®. The small screen coupled with the awkward real estate space above the screen looks old fashioned.

And still no 4G? Seriously? Apple® is only 2 years behind.

Black Yaris

12-02-2011, 10:40 PM

Kal-El

12-02-2011, 11:33 PM

Do you have to buy the new phone (Nexus) to get Ice Cream Sandwich, or can previous phones like my S II be upgraded?

It will definitely be made available as a system update on many of todays top tier phones. The phone requirement may be that it's dual core, but I'm uncertain.

I have a Bionic which Motorola says will get 4.0 no sooner than 6 weeks after the Nexus arrives. The Razr will of course get it too. Can't wait!

Shroomster

12-03-2011, 01:29 AM

all I hear from all my friends that are droid users is how bad the battery life is, and how they have lots of freezing problems. I laugh at how many of them call there phones "shitty". the whole 3g and 4g is very negligible, we saw very little difference from a Thunderbolt and my iphone4 in speed... and we were both using verizon

I'm not gonna lie about this:

If you have ZERO knowledge about using a smart phone or a computer, then an iPhone is the best choice.

people who buy android phones usually know what they are getting into, and have some sort of idea about how they are going to set up the phone to work best for them.

an iPhone is just click this and click that and yay it works.....

an android gets customized to the individual. EVERYTHING has settings and those settings have settings. odds are if you're friends are complaining about battery, then they didn't spend the time getting to know the phone and just expected it to mold to their hand the instant it came out of the box.

iPhones are pretty much idiot proof in that if you can slide your finger, you can use this phone.

No offense to your friends whatsoever, as I've been on here long enough to get jists of the senior members like yourself and I figure you and your friends aren't 'dumb' phone users.

tomato

12-03-2011, 08:11 PM

There is another reason why you might want an iPhone. If the camera part of the phone is important to you, then you might want to have a look at the iPhones, especially the newest one that just came out. These little iPhones take impressive photos in my modest opinion.

But as soon as the new Samsung Galaxy running on ICS (Google's latest) comes out, iPhones will have serious competition in that regard. They've done some huge improvements on shutter speed, etc.

tomato

12-03-2011, 08:15 PM

@shroomster : settings about settings is right!!! especially true for people running Cyanogen. Cyanogen unleashes a whole other layer of settings you didn't know existed!! I'm still digging through them and trying to get familiar with them all!

For the main user just getting a new phone from a carrier, depending on which phone they get, the manufacturer's skin may or may not be user friendly. As I remember, there was a bit of a learning curve with Sense UI, but that is not always the case for all Android phones. So the only way to know is to go play with them and see if you like the interface. Only a few phones run vanilla android. Most others have a user interface, plus customizations from the carrier, on top of it.

Kioshi

12-04-2011, 02:41 AM

I hate to disagree w/ you Black Yaris. But Android phones, once people learn how to utilize their full potential...they can be a serious threat to iphone users.

Mine runs circles around the iPhone 4, seriously. Compared just by simple tasks, not quadrant scores and its more fluid and quicker and responsive. Thanks to Cyanogen and an onslaught of memory/davlik freeing up mod/s.

Yes, I love the camera lens on the iPhone and the sleek design.

All in all, Android phones are like....modding a car. And iPhone, well, they are for people who just want a phone, kind of like how majority of the people that buy nice cars...really dont know how to drive them or keep them in running condition. Of course, there are the people that jailbreak their iphone, i commend those people :clap:

@ tomato - try out ICS for your phone. The latest version for my phone, the gallery is AWESOME. Although, a few FC here and there but overall smooth operating now. I just need a working gps, mms, and camera and...I'm set. :smile:

tomato

12-04-2011, 12:59 PM

Shroomster

12-04-2011, 01:46 PM

Shinare

12-05-2011, 01:28 PM

33OH

12-05-2011, 02:12 PM

Kioshi

12-05-2011, 03:02 PM

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch :iono:) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... :frown: I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

BTW, what do you use for international keyboard?

PS. I've seen ICS in person. Personally, I think it rules. Best Android OS hands down.

The GPS isn't working on your CM7 version? Try downloading and flashing an older version tomato. I am still running CM7 2.3.5 version because 2.3.7 version does not sync my past events on the calendar from 2010 to new 2.3.7 version. SO i gave up, and went back to older version.

You are lucky to see it in person. What pisses me off is that Verizon is an asshole company. Google Wallet will not be usable on the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon because Verizon wants to implement Issu? Their own version of it. <-- Stupid....oh well, hope CM9 makes it usable..I will not let Verizon keep track of my transactions :mad: My main reason for getting a Galaxy Nexus was because of the NFC via Google Wallet mobile payments.
Google needs to punch Verizon in the face for this~

I use Simeji keyboard. Its a little better when typing english on it compared to stock Gingerbread keyboard on CM7. Although, ICS has international languages built into its single keyboard and converts when needed... :)

Kioshi what's your phone again? Im waiting on the fully stable release of Cyanogen Mod 9 which should be early January by what they are hinting. Worst case scenario I started to learn how to make ROMs myself so Ill just cook one up. As for the iOS vs Android, one is made for people who just want stuff to work and dont care about what's on their phone as long as it works....and who like to overspend...and Android is for people who actually like to know what's going on inside their phone and who are eager to learn new stuff. It is already bad that people rely so much on smartphones these days and companies like Apple are not helping the situation by dumbing down their products so. I remember back in like 2000 if something broke or wasn't working properly on your computer you would actually try and fix it yourself, format this, repartition that, set permissions, etc.. Now is:" Waaaaa my computer/phone/toilet doesn't work lets send it back to Apple and they'll just tell me to buy a new one". It is my opinion that instead of making us smarter, these things are actually making us dumber and lazier. I understand why companies do it though, to maximize their profits but in the end they are just contributing to the end of human civilization. As an example, I have a friend and she is a teacher at one of the local high schools and each time I see her she tells me how bad kids' writing has become, they write like they text and get angry when told it's incorrect. Anyways ICS is awesome and I really like that they finally bridged the gap between phone and tablet, no more Apple talk about fragmentation. Again I don't hate Apple just what they represent...an "elitist", I'm better than everyone else because I own an overpriced and shiny piece of same tech as everyone else.

Use indentation PK, :laugh:

I have an HTC Incredible.
PK, try out the latest versions of ICS, its really good aside from the random reboot every 60 mins or so. They are daily drivers. No GPS, camera, and a few other things, but def can browse web, download from market, use gallery (on and off), and one more thing..which i forget.

I agree with your iOS vs Android comment.

Kioshi

12-05-2011, 03:07 PM

I just finally switched from being a faithful Android user of 2 years to an iPhone 4. I just couldn't take the battery life anymore. I'd tried countless ROM's, apps, techniques, etc. to no avail. I had a Droid Eris at first and switched to the Droid Incredible when they came out and couldn't get more than 4-5 hours of battery life out of either phone, even with an extended battery.

Do I miss the Android? Heck yes. But I do get a good 24 hours of battery life out of my new toy. :)

HOW????????? I have a Droid Incredible. I have classes from 9am-9pm and leave the house at 7am. I surf, take pics, listen to music for straight 70 mins (riding train to school). Unless you are in a classroom/place where there is low signal, then yeah...it seems possible to kill the battery that quick.

At the end of the day, my phone has about 8% left right when i get to my car from train station. Using original battery that came w/ the phone, stock.

To you set min/max in CPU settings? I have my brightness a level up from the lowest setting when using the notification bar to set brightness (from left to right).

33OH

12-05-2011, 03:35 PM

HOW????????? I have a Droid Incredible. I have classes from 9am-9pm and leave the house at 7am. I surf, take pics, listen to music for straight 70 mins (riding train to school). Unless you are in a classroom/place where there is low signal, then yeah...it seems possible to kill the battery that quick.

At the end of the day, my phone has about 8% left right when i get to my car from train station. Using original battery that came w/ the phone, stock.

To you set min/max in CPU settings? I have my brightness a level up from the lowest setting when using the notification bar to set brightness (from left to right).

I'm in Amish Country, Ohio - the signal is always low. :biggrin:

Yes I messed with the min/max settings, brightness was all the way low (0%), and I ran Cyanogen.

tomato

12-06-2011, 01:14 AM

Since I'm about to step into the smartphone arena for the first time, I've been reading some of the posts in this thread the last couple pages. I'm thinking about getting the Galaxy S II 4G for t-mobile for myself and getting a pair of HTC Wildfire S phones for my wife and daughter. It's interesting reading about ICS and Cyanogen, where can I learn more on the how's and why's of applying these ROMs and the pros/cons of such? Thanks!

whaaaaa ?!! Only a couple of pages? No, no, no, no, that won't do!! :mad::rolleyes: You have to read the whole thread!!!

kidding!! :biggrin::biggrin:

Well, you're in the right thread on here. Some of the members here are very knowledgeable about Android, ROMs, hardware and all things android.

here are a few links to get you started:

XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/ (huge forums for Q's about all android phones, ROMs, etc.)

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ Cyanogen Mod is the most widely used ROM for those phones. You can follow them on facebook, Google+ as well.

There are others who cover all things android:

http://www.androidcentral.com/

http://www.androidpolice.com/

I don't keep up with them all, but those should get you started. You can also go on Google + and #android

Google + is brilliant for stuff like that
Hope that'll get you started :smile:

tomato

12-06-2011, 01:27 AM

The GPS isn't working on your CM7 version? Try downloading and flashing an older version tomato. I am still running CM7 2.3.5 version because 2.3.7 version does not sync my past events on the calendar from 2010 to new 2.3.7 version. SO i gave up, and went back to older version.
You are lucky to see it in person ...

I think GPS is working now. Somebody had the same issue and posted a fix. I wish I could paypal some pizza money to that dev. Seriously. With GPS working, the ROM is amazing. :headbang::headbang:

tomato

12-06-2011, 01:31 AM

I just finally switched from being a faithful Android user of 2 years to an iPhone 4. I just couldn't take the battery life anymore. I'd tried countless ROM's, apps, techniques, etc. to no avail. I had a Droid Eris at first and switched to the Droid Incredible when they came out and couldn't get more than 4-5 hours of battery life out of either phone, even with an extended battery.

Do I miss the Android? Heck yes. But I do get a good 24 hours of battery life out of my new toy. :)

Awwww :( You didn't even get the iPhone 4GS which is supposed to have a superb camera in there ! Oh well. I do understand about the battery. My EVO only lasts half a day or a little more if I don't use the camera. But I carry an extra battery now and a charger. So that's one way to get around it. Not ideal, I know :iono:

tomato

12-06-2011, 01:32 AM

there's a pretty advanced beta of ICS for the HTC HD2 (i.e. the phone that won't die), one of which I have on hand... time to give it a try tonight :D

Thomas, how is that working out?

Kioshi

12-06-2011, 02:59 AM

I'm in Amish Country, Ohio - the signal is always low. :biggrin:

Yes I messed with the min/max settings, brightness was all the way low (0%), and I ran Cyanogen.

Ah, I see. I guess there isnt a mod for increasing signal on cell phones.....yet.

I would have still helped you achieve max battery life though:frown:

tomato

12-06-2011, 12:32 PM

Ryan is gone to the dark side :evil:

J/K. :)

33OH

12-06-2011, 12:47 PM

Awwww :( You didn't even get the iPhone 4GS which is supposed to have a superb camera in there ! Oh well. I do understand about the battery. My EVO only lasts half a day or a little more if I don't use the camera. But I carry an extra battery now and a charger. So that's one way to get around it. Not ideal, I know :iono:

I used to have 3 extra batteries with me; one at home, one in my car, one at work. :tongue:

Ah, I see. I guess there isnt a mod for increasing signal on cell phones.....yet.

I would have still helped you achieve max battery life though:frown:

Trust me, I tried and tried and tried. I bought UltimateJuice (JuiceDefender). Ran through about 5 or 6 different ROM's. SetCPU down to slowwww. 0% brightness. WiFi off. Even turned the data/3G off.

Oh, I didn't charge my phone last night after a full day of use on my iPhone.. so about 36 hours now.. I'm at 85%.. :biggrin:

And I read that the new iPhone's have worse battery life then the iPhone 4, hence the reason I went with the older model.

33OH

12-06-2011, 12:48 PM

Ryan is gone to the dark side :evil:

J/K. :)

It's true.. I even have an iPad2. :redface:

tomato

12-07-2011, 01:39 AM

@Ryan, i'm a bigger dork: I still have my iPad first gen. ... Ha! and I love it! :)

True, it's no android tablet, it's got no USB port, etc., etc. But I only charge it every 3 weeks. Ha!!

tomato

12-07-2011, 01:40 AM

Not that I was trying to imply that you're a dork ...

(I'm joking with ya! ) :smile:

tomato

12-07-2011, 01:42 AM

Oh, I didn't charge my phone last night after a full day of use on my iPhone.. so about 36 hours now.. I'm at 85%.. :biggrin:
l.

Now, now, that's just mean, rubbing it in like that in this [android lover] thread :mad:

I'm kidding. Enjoy :D

PS. I'm online right now as we speak ordering spare batteries and a charger on Amazon! :laugh: My phone is basically tethered to the wall all day at work .

Kal-El

12-07-2011, 08:35 AM

Oh, I didn't charge my phone last night after a full day of use on my iPhone.. so about 36 hours now.. I'm at 85%.. :biggrin:
.

Although Apple batteries are indeed known for there quality, they are boosted by iPhone's small screen and no 4G. :tongue:

Kioshi

12-07-2011, 11:53 AM

Now, now, that's just mean, rubbing it in like that in this [android lover] thread :mad:

I'm kidding. Enjoy :D

PS. I'm online right now as we speak ordering spare batteries and a charger on Amazon! :laugh: My phone is basically tethered to the wall all day at work .

Jeeez tomato.
have a spare htc evo battery not in use (used) i can buy from you? :P

Shroomster

12-08-2011, 09:15 PM

something else I can add, although it's too late for some (we will miss you Ryan lol)

on some androids like htc phones, you can change the radio software (the software that allows for communication/signal for data and voice).

::read:: baseband version in settings/about phone/more info

I changed mine ( sometimes it is actually changed with over the air updates on your phone, hence why they say back up your stuff on the phone)

the radio can help increase/decrease battery life as it determines where and which signal you get....

also other things to do include:

-keeping caches cleared out of apps

-turning off background data (usually only google apps need this running when you open them i.e. the market)
unless you have to constantly have your phone syncing you can tell it to manually let you sync data which believe me, works in the batteries favor or set it to mimimal auto sync rate

-if you know for a fact the area you will be in only gets a certain data speed, you can tell the phone (rooted or stock) to use only a certain speed (edge, 2g 3g, 4g, lte)
just find the setting on your phone that deals with connectivity and data
///otherwise the phone will constantly search for a better signal (only tell tale sign to you will be freefalling battery levels and data icon constantly changing.

-turn off your wifi (it will constantly be searching as in above post)

-you can also turn off g.p.s as it isn't necessary unless an app specifies it when you open it

-contrary to popular belief keeping the phone plugged in or charging on and off throughout the day is actually fine and won't cause the battery to develop a memory
you don't have to run the battery down unless you want too...

-I set my phone to auto brightness or minimal brightness

-I do not use any haptic feedback or vibration except for calls and messages

-task killers and or battery apps (essentially the same thing anymore) are up to you, there is no right answer for this, some apps are battery vampires, others close when you tell them to close

one app I can reccommend that pretty much covers all these bases for you is called "llama" it uses a-gps (tower to phone locations) and maps where you are and you tell it when and what you want to the phone to be doing (i.e you're at home and only want wifi turned on and vibration mode on the phone [or you're at work from x-o'clock to y-o'clock and need medium ringtone, 4g data and wifi tethering for your other devices and your navigation app opened])

@Shinare: To be completely honest I don't think sprint's plan will be offered anymore here soon...>>>LINK<<< (http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/10/23/sprint-kills-unlimited-data-not-iphone/) & >>>LINK<<< (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/11/27/us-sprint-4g-idUKTRE7AO1O920111127)
I do think you made the correct choice, however, as discounts and your phone choices and signal reception should be a non-issue.

Kioshi

12-09-2011, 02:37 AM

s
-turning off background data (usually only google apps need this running when you open them i.e. the market)
unless you have to constantly have your phone syncing you can tell it to manually let you sync data which believe me, works in the batteries favor or set it to mimimal auto sync rate

Question, Do you know if the stock CM7 mail app uses background data? I like to stay on top of my emails...mainly from overseas friend/s and important local ones.

Shroomster

12-09-2011, 04:30 AM

Question, Do you know if the stock CM7 mail app uses background data? I like to stay on top of my emails...mainly from overseas friend/s and important local ones.

I would think it does if you have it set to sync automatically, as background data is turned on or off in the sync settings screen.

I sync my mail when I check it, but it's a personal preference.

I am currently using on my htc sensation a rom called Energy by NRGz28.

I have cyanogen on one device that I don't use, a port/mod of it on another one I'm selling, and I put cm7 on a friends LG Optimus M, but he uses gmail so I wouldn't be able to give you a firm yes or no, just me leaning towards yes.

33OH

12-09-2011, 09:25 AM

Although Apple batteries are indeed known for there quality, they are boosted by iPhone's small screen and no 4G. :tongue:

We're not supposed to have 4G here until 2015, so no worries there for me. :redface:

But yes - the smaller screen does suck at times!

I'll always be an Android lover, but for what I do with a phone - sadly the iPhone was the way to go... I'll still creep on your thread here though. :)

Kioshi

12-09-2011, 03:15 PM

I would think it does if you have it set to sync automatically, as background data is turned on or off in the sync settings screen.

I sync my mail when I check it, but it's a personal preference.

I am currently using on my htc sensation a rom called Energy by NRGz28.

I have cyanogen on one device that I don't use, a port/mod of it on another one I'm selling, and I put cm7 on a friends LG Optimus M, but he uses gmail so I wouldn't be able to give you a firm yes or no, just me leaning towards yes.

Ah, okay.
I usually forget to click the mail app, so thats why I need it to sync automatically if i get an email from class, friends, or something important.

Thanks :smile:

tomato

03-04-2012, 01:02 AM

I'll always be an Android lover, but for what I do with a phone - sadly the iPhone was the way to go... I'll still creep on your thread here though. :)

Anytime!

To be honest with you, I did go look at the iPhone 4s when it came out b/c dual networks and a really good camera are 2 very important things for me. I wish Google and HTC would come out a hybrid phone that works on BOTH CDMA and GSM.

Shroomster

03-04-2012, 05:39 PM

Anytime!

To be honest with you, I did go look at the iPhone 4s when it came out b/c dual networks and a really good camera are 2 very important things for me. I wish Google and HTC would come out a hybrid phone that works on BOTH CDMA and GSM.

Motorola/google might be working on that...

this sucks: I've heard rumors that t-mobile is moving htc out of it's flagship phone position (with their mytouch phones, now using Lg and next is HUAWEI ugh). htc is kind of moving in the wrong direction with their new phone lineup....'one' series

Still waiting for a stable release of ICS for my sensation (that I can use titanium backup with and apps 2 sd....

tomato

03-04-2012, 11:03 PM

Actually HTC is doing it right, instead of making a ton of new phones that have a market liefspan of merely 3 months, they will focus on a single series that is divded into tiers, from low end models with basic features and performance to high end beasts (The X model i believe is their top One variant with quad core and magnesium alloy chasis).I love HTC just on the build quality alone, I like the Samsung Galaxy SII also but its way too light and feels very cheap to the touch even though it is a very good phone. The only thing i regret about HTC is their departure from the removable batteries.

As for ICS , Im waiting for LeeDroid to come up with one, i dropped CyanogenMOD until they show more love to the Evo 3d

Really?I didn't know that!!! That's a damn shame!!! One of the major advantages of having an android phone is the removable battery!! Oh well :frown:

I had the Samsung Galaxy S in my hands a while back and it does feel a little plasticky and lightweight compared to my EVO4G but the screen is amazing and it really is a good phone. Waiting to see what next year will bring. My EVO 4G on CM 7.1 will do nicely for a while. I was thinking maybe getting a used Nexus S and root it. It would be an upgrade for me. My EVO has been acting up :/ (I guess that's what I get for getting an early adopter's unit :P) Or just wait...

tomato

03-04-2012, 11:05 PM

Motorola/google might be working on that...

this sucks: I've heard rumors that t-mobile is moving htc out of it's flagship phone position (with their mytouch phones, now using Lg and next is HUAWEI ugh). htc is kind of moving in the wrong direction with their new phone lineup....'one' series

Still waiting for a stable release of ICS for my sensation (that I can use titanium backup with and apps 2 sd....

that would suck if it's true. But remember, rumors are just that. AT&T was gonna eat up T-mobile and they didn't . So keep your hopes up.

Shroomster

03-05-2012, 08:35 PM

Actually HTC is doing it right, instead of making a ton of new phones that have a market liefspan of merely 3 months, they will focus on a single series that is divded into tiers, from low end models with basic features and performance to high end beasts (The X model i believe is their top One variant with quad core and magnesium alloy chasis).I love HTC just on the build quality alone, I like the Samsung Galaxy SII also but its way too light and feels very cheap to the touch even though it is a very good phone. The only thing i regret about HTC is their departure from the removable batteries.

As for ICS , Im waiting for LeeDroid to come up with one, i dropped CyanogenMOD until they show more love to the Evo 3d

Thats what I meant to get across.....I think build/quality/ideas about focus are correct, but iphone-esque specs aren't what non-i product consumers want.
I was hoping they would at least start putting 21/42mbps radios in the new line.....

I was on LeeDrOiD on my sensation, I moved to NRG roms as they are much more stable (less gimmicky - my own opinion). Lee and Nrg both have ics roms (thought they did for the evo as its the same practically as the sensation.....camera/screen resolution etc differences....

Kioshi

03-06-2012, 01:44 PM

I guess the non removable battery from HTC is new news to me...:eek:

The HTC Incredible/HTC Evo 4G i think, are the LAST greatest smartphones ever created. These things just want to keep going....like our Yaris. Lately I've been having my phone w/o the cover and dropped it twice now, flat on the ground...Insedio screen protector is super strong, but more so, the phone has been rocking everyday.

I'm due for an upgrade now, i wanted the Sony Nozomi/Xeperia S but thats an AT&T thing i guess...want that nice camera on there because nothing on the Verizon sales floor surprises me.

Currently I've gone through 2 different ICS roms and have found a sort of stable one by Protekk?
He has a zip file for fixing the panorama mode, video recording, and picture quality. Using quickpic to watch recorded videos, picture reviewing, etc WORKS Flawlessly.

Dont know what to upgrade to, honestly...Galaxy Nexus isn't a justifiable uprade~lol

I have been out of the phone look since i changed gears to getting some jdm stuff for the car.

Kioshi

03-06-2012, 01:46 PM

For anyone w/ an HTC Evo4, Evo 3D follow this guy on twitter , his MOST recent builds are posted there - https://twitter.com/#!/preludedrew

Paul, his friend, did the last update for the Incredible ICS rom, sad, but he did great work and maybe doing updates down the road for the phone.

Shroomster, I dont know any stable rom for the Sensation, but if i run into one, I will provide a link or two. :)

tomato

03-07-2012, 02:04 AM

PK, can you link something about the non-removable batteries and HTC?

Shroomster

03-07-2012, 07:54 PM

Gsmarena.com>left side select htc>list of all htc phones the one series are all at the top

tomato

03-18-2012, 04:44 PM

Hmmm.. I still didn't see where it says the batteries are non-removable. o_O

I now have an unlocked Nexus S to play with. Haven't activated it, yet, just playing with it on WiFi only mode. Playing with ICS a bit and I like it a lot. In some ways, it's not as good as CM7, but in some ways better.

The Nexus S disappoints in at least one way: there is no LED notification lights!!! So if your phone is asleep and sitting on your desk, and you missed the sound notification, you could have messages and emails and not know about it for hours. That was a big disappointment, and a big design flaw, I think. But otherwise, the phone is pretty damn fast, it's a pleasure.

Still, I miss the feel of the older HTC phones (Hero, Nexus 1, EVO 4G .. all had a nice heft to it, and not so plasticky).

tomato

03-19-2012, 12:24 AM

"You also get an 8megapixel camera, Beats Audio integration, 1GB of RAM and a whopping 32GB of internal storage space for additional media – but no SD card slot and a non-removable battery."

Bummer. :( I think it's a deal breaker for me. I hate running around looking for a place to plug in. :( :(

J_Lynn

04-04-2012, 10:08 PM

Does anyone have the HTC Vivid? Reviews, if you do ... please ... :)

why?

04-08-2012, 01:23 PM

basically anything HTC is a good buy (yes Im biased lol), but the build quality of the HTCs is in my opinion great , they are like mini tanks almost as good as NOKIAs (GOD i wish they would adopt Android). I feel sad for Nokia they were the shi$# back in the day.:cry:

And Wang was the greatest word processor company ever, who thought this new fangled pc thing would never catch on.

Kioshi

04-11-2012, 03:50 PM

HTC incredible 4g coming soon..... :D

Snapdragon s4 chip, it'll blow the tegra 3 chips out of the water plus better 4g battery life. Think I found the phone to upgrade to.

On to another Incredible phone.

randeez

04-12-2012, 09:23 AM

my htc inc has just about lived it's life...cracked screen, dented camera lense. i'm due for an upgrade in may, i think. I picked up a bionic recently for other line on my plan to replace a blackberry (don't ask) and it took significant other all of about 10 minutes to forget how nice she thought her blackberry was. I was probably just going to get another bionic for myself unless something better comes out in the next two months

Kioshi

04-12-2012, 10:35 PM

^ thats probably why the backing of HTC Incredible changed, the material. Almost same internals like HTC One S but different shell.

Makes me feel better getting it even more lol.

randeez - how is your significant other liking the Droid Bionic? I heard complaints from users of it.

I know my Dad hates the Droid 2 global i got for him, so I have to go and root it for him.

randeez

04-12-2012, 10:57 PM

good so far, been a few weeks. we dont really mod our phones, most i've done is rooted my old phone so i cant really give ya any input in that area. battery life seems to be decent and recharges from low bat quickly. grandfathered in unlimited data plan for two of the lines with verizon, otherwise i hate them. we dont get 4g service at home, but work and school we get solid 4g. it also gets a lot better signal then my inc if they're right next to each other - not sure what thats about.

what are people having problems with them?? i didnt really compare to much before getting it, i just knew i didnt want to pay anymore then i already was for a decent 4g phone

escotric

04-16-2012, 05:23 AM

Id just get an iphone. lol

tomato

04-16-2012, 10:49 PM

@escotric Beware... peeps hanging out in this thread saying "get an iPhone" end up buying an Android phone eventually.

:evil: Resistance is futile ... :evil: you will be assimilated :evil:

hahaha I'm kidding! :)

why?

04-17-2012, 02:00 PM

haha, don't iphones not have 4g anywhere?

J_Lynn

04-17-2012, 03:32 PM

iphones suck :/

I am *in love* with my Vivid ... I proposed, but it said no .... kinda hurt, but I'll get over it. I will never go back to another phone of another maker again. This phone is as treasured to me now as my car and my dogs are. There is no amount of money I would give it up for....unless it was enough to buy another one + some ... haha

I should have made the switch to an HTC a long time ago. I would have been a happier girl.

Spidermandud

04-17-2012, 03:35 PM

iphones suck :/

I love you.

escotric

04-17-2012, 08:39 PM

@escotric Beware... peeps hanging out in this thread saying "get an iPhone" end up buying an Android phone eventually.

:thumbup: Iphones rock! :headbang: Really depends on how your desktop applications are set up to sync via mobile (ie: itunes, outlook, utilities, etc) . Itunes - Media and Apps, Image Capture - Pictures and Video. Drag and Drop.

Android is swiss cheese when it comes to security (Enterprise customers prefer Apple over Android) and their applications doesn't look as clean nor simple. Whats the point of having a gigantic clock on your home screen when its already on the right corner...... (ie: sense UI):barf:

I owned a Droid X, yeah yeah roms builds modded you know the gist. Constant foruming for the next hot new roms. It was nice, though the UI was lacking that "oomph". I own an Ipad, Macbook Pro, Ipod and Iphone and all I can say is:

Macs rule and if you are a Mac hater, you need to at least try Apple products and give em a chance.

As for everyday mobile, Iphone. Personally.:tongue:

Spidermandud

04-17-2012, 10:10 PM

If you manage to get a job in creative media, then sure, Apple is all you.

Otherwise, as a computer science major, I'ma have to stop you right there. Apple products blow. Way overpriced. The only good argument for owning a Mac is that you prefer the lack of viruses. The reason there's a lack of viruses is because no hacker is going to be using a pos to do their hacking, and if you know what you're doing, viruses on normal computers are no big deal. I'm no Microsoft fan, the only microsoft product I actually own being a Zune, but I'm just saying.

Also, I used Apple products in High school for everything; it was all we had, and miserable memories of those hours attempting to make videos for them to instantly disappear for no reason abound.

/rant :D

tomato

04-17-2012, 10:58 PM

We should probably keep this thread more focused on Android rather than Android v. Apple, just sayin' :biggrin:

unless of course it's to do constructive comparisons

(we managed to go close to 500 posts without fighting in here, would love to keep it that way :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:)

J_Lynn

04-18-2012, 12:08 PM

J_Lynn

04-18-2012, 12:14 PM

I know it's not a true Droid - but uhhh has anyone played with the Note yet?

J_Lynn

04-18-2012, 11:29 PM

you mean the Galaxy Note? I did and I think its overkill. There is a sweet spot for screen sizes and 5.3 across is too big for a phone and too small for a tablet in my opinion. Ideal size for me at least is the 4.3in across you have enough reach to use it one handed and its big enough to display everything properly. And it is an Android JLynn (if we're talking about the same Note). Its fast and responsive just too big for my taste.

I meant like an HTC phone - I know it's a droid, just not an HTC droid.
The Mr. has the Samsung Infuse and he loves it - and I do, too. The screen size is perfect - it's only about 1/4" larger than mine ... but I wish mine was that big. But yeah, I think the Note may be toooo big. BUT, all the features it has makes me want one. That's what I was going to get when I decided on the Vivid - I just wasn't going to pay $299 even after my upgrade credit, when I got the Vivid for $.01 (refurb) lol

Kioshi

04-24-2012, 12:37 PM

Thomas, how are you liking your Galaxy Nexus?

I know the front facing camera is HD capable (never mentioned by anyone) but how does the camera fair in night shots and day shots compared to other 8mp camera out there on HTC devices?

Hows Google Wallet working out for you there?

Sick of reading reviews on it from those critics :tongue:

ilikerice

04-24-2012, 12:50 PM

Me and my better half just got brand new DroidMaxx'. and we love them sofar. Battery life on these are incredible. I can easily go 2 days without charging, If I stay off wifi.

I dont have much to compare other than my friends who have all sorts of smartphones. I came from a LG Dare and she came from a Palm. Both are horribly outdated.

Kioshi

04-24-2012, 12:55 PM

randeez

04-24-2012, 01:59 PM

soo where we at on this, which phone is at the top of the list now-a-days? i'll be needing a new droid on verizon in the next month to replace my battered incredible. other line with the bionic i do like the increased size, i think the camera sucks though- i havent been able to get it to take a nice picture yet. and i probably won't be spending any more then 150-200 on it (with verizon upgrade crap)

Kioshi

04-24-2012, 02:04 PM

HTC Incredible 4g coming in a few weeks...since the site leaked it yesterday morning. Following HTC One S line but w/ removable battery? and external storage. Should be priced around 150-200...

randeez

04-24-2012, 02:09 PM

incredible 4g is not the same an the incredible 2 then correct?

cali yaris

04-24-2012, 03:03 PM

Can I get ICS yet for my Galaxy 2S on Sprint?

waiting waiting waiting..... :frown:

ilikerice

04-24-2012, 03:15 PM

non removable battery is a bummer for me.

Love how thin it is though!
Hows the clarity on it?

I Have never needed to remove my battery before so I see not big deal about it now.

As for the clarity, Krystal clear. It also video's in 1080i. check out Post #116. I took that with my phone.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32238&page=7

ilikerice

04-24-2012, 05:54 PM

True , but it is a limitation nonetheless. Plus if you are a flashaholic (i.e like me) then a removable battery is always a plus, sometimes the only way to reboot a phone is to pull the battery.

true, I am a different kinda nerd I guess.. lol.. a phone is a phone to be. I hardly use the smartness of it.. I already am smart.. lol. :biggrin:

Kioshi

04-24-2012, 09:27 PM

incredible 4g is not the same an the incredible 2 then correct?
Correct, Incredible 4G is CDMA vs Incredible 2 which is GSM. Camera sensor has been improved on Incredible 4g but still a VGA front camera... :(
Processor is super fast, snapdragon S4.
It was suppose to have NFC enabled (Google Wallet hack anyone?) but official specs have not been released yet.

I Have never needed to remove my battery before so I see not big deal about it now.

As for the clarity, Krystal clear. It also video's in 1080i. check out Post #116. I took that with my phone.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32238&page=7

lol.

Yeah i put new versions of ICS roms on my phone at least 2x a month. In some cases, pushing all the buttons does not reboot my phone, thus i have to pull the battery out.

Think of it as a way.....of modding the phone. I love modding cars, did r/c cars back in the day, and now phones on top of it all :laugh:

That pic looks grainy to me :confused: is it just my monitor? lol

Read how you can go to Vegas from California using the GPS and still have juice left over on the way back, COOL!

Kioshi

04-24-2012, 09:29 PM

Can I get ICS yet for my Galaxy 2S on Sprint?

waiting waiting waiting..... :frown:

http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-roms/resurrection-remix-pro-ics-rom-on-galaxy-s2-i9100-android-4-0-4aokpbest-rom/

J_Lynn

04-24-2012, 10:34 PM

Can I get ICS yet for my Galaxy 2S on Sprint?

waiting waiting waiting..... :frown:

ICS is pretty awesome :D I hope you get it soon!

randeez

04-25-2012, 11:05 PM

:iono:

Kioshi

05-16-2012, 02:51 PM

:iono:

the latest - http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/7/3006119/droid-incredible-4g-lte-hands-on

I'm........not too excited for the phone. Its missing the same camera from HTC One S/X, image sensor, etc.

It does have removable battery and sd card slot..the only plus to the phone.

I will wait and see...LG is suppose to be unveiling their latest phone which has 13mp with a camera sensor to match Samsung Galaxy S III.

Verizon's becoming boring...again~

Altitude

05-16-2012, 04:01 PM

Will be swapping my Galaxy S1 for an S3 when they come out :)

randeez

05-16-2012, 09:42 PM

the latest - http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/7/3006119/droid-incredible-4g-lte-hands-on

I'm........not too excited for the phone. Its missing the same camera from HTC One S/X, image sensor, etc.

It does have removable battery and sd card slot..the only plus to the phone.

I will wait and see...LG is suppose to be unveiling their latest phone which has 13mp with a camera sensor to match Samsung Galaxy S III.

Verizon's becoming boring...again~

thanks for the heads up.... there doesnt seem to be much exciting coming from verizon lately, device upgrade is available for my other unlimited line and it's hard to choose which one i dislike the least. i may see how the incredible 4g is reviewed after it comes out and choose then. old phone is ...getting old...

why?

05-17-2012, 04:14 PM

Verizon has always been terrible and overpriced. It is hard to beat the quality of their service though.

Kioshi

05-18-2012, 12:42 AM

thanks for the heads up.... there doesnt seem to be much exciting coming from verizon lately, device upgrade is available for my other unlimited line and it's hard to choose which one i dislike the least. i may see how the incredible 4g is reviewed after it comes out and choose then. old phone is ...getting old...

No problem sir.

Agreed, I was looking at used Incredible 2s on eBay. I MAY end up doing that and retaining my upgrade...

But someone posted on here that Verizon CEO wants to take people out of grandfathered-in unlimited data plan once they switch to a 4G phone...:eek:

randeez

05-18-2012, 09:16 AM

I saw, may mean i need to hurry up and get it upgraded... may try and find any used 4g phone to get plan upgraded and wait for something worth getting stuck with another 2 years with

cali yaris

05-18-2012, 12:25 PM

wow, the poll is year old. Amazing how fast the tech changes. Smartphone madness!

randeez

05-18-2012, 02:31 PM

lol yep, my htc inc. has been a great phone, i was hoping to upgrade to another
to go along with the other thread
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-sees-revenue-increase-shared-plans-190235445--finance.html

on yahoo today, looks like i'll probably just get another bionic and upgrad my plan before it's to late

edit: razr maxx should be here in a day or two, really wasnt to impressed with it but i only get a new phone every other year or so, hopefully it'll keep up for that long

Kioshi

05-18-2012, 05:34 PM

god damn it, that article is annoying. Fuck the Verizon CEO...Shammo BAM his ass.

So....would they kick people ALREADY on 4G phones off the unlimited data plan as well? <---thats my question....because then I shouldnt even upgrade to a 4G phone...and go the route of Incredible 2 and when my other 2 plans are over..i switch to T-Mobile~

Kioshi

05-18-2012, 06:04 PM

Here is an updated version from Verizon to New York Times...

http://dvice.com/archives/2012/05/verizon-were-ki.php

Quote =

Update: Verizon issued an email clarification on the matter to The New York Times:

- Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
- When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.

- Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.

- The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

So, any way you look at it, after mid-summer....if you want a new phone down the road even being on 4G already, you will be booted off unlimited data plan.

Down with Verizon!:thumbdown:

I'd rather be on T-Mobile paying LESS for services, not really unlimited data, better phones, and GMS/World phones.

Kioshi

05-18-2012, 06:47 PM

A good read -

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57436766-94/should-angry-verizon-subscribers-ditch-big-red/

Paying retail for phone that aren't as great in design as this? - http://panasonic.jp/mobile/docomo/p06d/

13mp camera, water proof, 1.5ghz...

And since Docomo has SIM unlocking...using non Docomo devices on their network..this is a PLUS.

http://www.nttdocomo.com/pr/2011/001514.html

tomato

05-21-2012, 12:34 AM

wow, the poll is year old. Amazing how fast the tech changes. Smartphone madness!

if you mean the poll on top of the thread, it's 2 year old. At least. In June, I'll have had my EVO for exactly 2 years and I'll be out of contract. Yeeeeeeaaaaaa!!!! :headbang::headbang:

VZW has some pretty good phones and a rock solid network. I'm really tempted.

tomato

05-21-2012, 12:37 AM

Down with Verizon!:thumbdown:

I'd rather be on T-Mobile paying LESS for services, not really unlimited data, better phones, and GMS/World phones.

Meh.... I happen to think it's fair. People who consume huge amounts of data (watching Netflix on their phones, etc., etc.,) shouldn't be expected to pay the same as the occasional user. And we do want carriers to keep up with network upgrades so they don't have the problem AT&T has had for years in SF and NY with people practically bringing the network to a crawl with their iPhones on unlimited data plans.

Don't get me wrong, I like free stuff as much as the next guy but it's simply not realistic. Everybody is doing it and Sprint too will have to follow suit. If they don't do it, then they won't be able to keep up with the network expansion and user experience will suffer. Either way, you're paying for it. :iono:

In the end, the best network /carrier is the one that works. Out here VZW is rock solid. Sprint has "issues". AT&T is a disaster. T-Mo is spotty. But they're all kind of OK outside of SF. Figures .

(PS/ Nice wheels, BTW. Love the wheels in your signature)

randeez

05-22-2012, 08:10 AM

I was fully ready to jump ship, had i not been able to upgrade my unlimited plan with verizon. as tomato stated though, down here about all the carriers have decent reliability along the coast, as soon as you head a few miles inland most of them drop off. sprint (work phone) and verizon (personal) both work pretty well statewide but i dont imagine i can start up a new contract with either better then my grandfathered contract now (definitely know i can't with verizon)

randeez

05-23-2012, 07:26 AM

http://www.speedtest.net/android/185077400.png

4g :wub:

Kioshi

05-23-2012, 03:59 PM

Meh.... I happen to think it's fair. People who consume huge amounts of data (watching Netflix on their phones, etc., etc.,) shouldn't be expected to pay the same as the occasional user. And we do want carriers to keep up with network upgrades so they don't have the problem AT&T has had for years in SF and NY with people practically bringing the network to a crawl with their iPhones on unlimited data plans.

You're forgetting one major thing. ALL CARRIERS can throttle you. Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T have all throttled users in the past. Why can't they do it now for those exceeding 2-4gb per month CONSTANTLY? Its not hard~

It's not fair....big shots sitting in the seats in the company need their salary cut.
For the amount that Verizon users pay out of the rest of the carriers all these years, I think we've "earned" to keep the unlimited data and great coverage.
Verizon sneakingly likes to add fees on top of people's bills. And now the shared data plan is another scheme by them to get more money out of us.

Have you seen the crappy phones Verizon has in its lineup, compared to T-Mobile and AT&T? We never got the true Samsung Galaxy S II, a variant to HTC ONE S (Incredible 4g has a different chip and different camera, so it doesn't count).

I've seen my bill go up $2 at the start of this year, but it wasn't in the form of the previous outrage of Verizon charging $2? for not having your credit card attached to their site....that $2 is tucked away in the B.S. charges when you read the fine print.

So.....paying $500-700 for crappy phones on Verizon just to keep my unlimited data isn't justifiable.

T-Mobile seems the better choice, especially since you can swap SIM cards whereas with Verizon and Sprint, you have to abide by their stupid rules and charges even when using another network in a foreign country.

Kioshi

05-23-2012, 04:02 PM

http://www.speedtest.net/android/185077400.png

4g :wub:

Thats amazing! My friend on his Nexus Galaxy here (San Jose) is getting....if i recall - 7-12mbs.

why?

05-23-2012, 11:09 PM

Meh.... I happen to think it's fair. People who consume huge amounts of data (watching Netflix on their phones, etc., etc.,) shouldn't be expected to pay the same as the occasional user. And we do want carriers to keep up with network upgrades so they don't have the problem AT&T has had for years in SF and NY with people practically bringing the network to a crawl with their iPhones on unlimited data plans.

Don't get me wrong, I like free stuff as much as the next guy but it's simply not realistic. Everybody is doing it and Sprint too will have to follow suit. If they don't do it, then they won't be able to keep up with the network expansion and user experience will suffer. Either way, you're paying for it. :iono:

In the end, the best network /carrier is the one that works. Out here VZW is rock solid. Sprint has "issues". AT&T is a disaster. T-Mo is spotty. But they're all kind of OK outside of SF. Figures .

(PS/ Nice wheels, BTW. Love the wheels in your signature)

I'm sorry but the USA has the highest cell phone rates on the planet. Data is not limited, it is totally and 100% unlimited. Bandwidth is basically 100% unlimited. Just because AT@T let their network rot does not mean they had to. They chose to.

You can pick up a real phone in Europe, or better yet, Japan or China, that you can watch local broadcast tv and listen to radio on, get unlimited talk, text, data, and quite a few other things people here in the USA wouldn't dream about their phones doing, and they pay less than half of what we do.

My sister in London has the latest Iphone, unlimited everything and she only pays £40 a month. That is around $60 a month by today's rates. Try getting any phone company in the US to give you that deal and see what happens.

The USA gets totally screwed on internet and phone charges. We pay massively more than anyone else on the entire planet.

Please, don't pretend we are doing anyone a favor by allowing phone companies to bend us over a table at every single turn.

Kioshi

05-24-2012, 05:21 AM

I'm sorry but the USA has the highest cell phone rates on the planet. Data is not limited, it is totally and 100% unlimited. Bandwidth is basically 100% unlimited. Just because AT@T let their network rot does not mean they had to. They chose to.

You can pick up a real phone in Europe, or better yet, Japan or China, that you can watch local broadcast tv and listen to radio on, get unlimited talk, text, data, and quite a few other things people here in the USA wouldn't dream about their phones doing, and they pay less than half of what we do.

My sister in London has the latest Iphone, unlimited everything and she only pays £40 a month. That is around $60 a month by today's rates. Try getting any phone company in the US to give you that deal and see what happens.

The USA gets totally screwed

One correction, Japan doesn't have unlimited minutes as far as I remember. It is expensive to make a call in japan on cell phones...which is why people use sky mail (carrier attached email address)to text others majority of the time. They don't use SMS unless its an app like LINE app. And yes, they do have better phones always......they've got waterproof smart phones for crying out loud.