should i buy this?

[TickleTimeTim]

This guy lives close to me and is selling his new turbo

Item for sale is a brand new turbo kit for a Yaris. I bought this kit for my Yaris and sold the car before I had a chance to install it. This kit includes turbo, air intake, piping, intercooler and piping, wideband and all hoses and v-band clamps as well as exhaust/turbo manifold. This kit is good for about 10 lbs of boost and should give about 100 hp over stock

its listed for 400 but he dropped it to 250. he bought it for 600.

what do you think?

thanks

[Focus_Sh1ft]

He bought it for 600!? I'd steer clear lol. That has bad idea written all over it.

Some pictures and info on the kit is definitely needed though.

[ilikerice]

yea.. for 250 though? if its a name brand wideband with sensors and/or guages.. id say that alone is worth 250.. u could easily use the hardware like the piping and stuff to make a custom turbo. but focus is right.. we need pictures and part numbers.

[cali yaris]

What kit for the Yaris did someone buy for $600?

[TickleTimeTim]

i wanna say the intercooler and tubing were universal and that the turbo WOULD fit the yaris and only the manifold is specific, but i could be way off. as soon as i get pics i will post them. thanks guys. i just dont wanna jump on something that isn't worth it, but the price seemed good enough to check on.

[TickleTimeTim]

the guy said the turbo was jdm sport and the auto store told him it was most likely a garret. i have pics, ill try to post later.

[fnkngrv]

It would most likely be a Garrett knockoff. Personally I would stay away from it...unless you are serious about a build down the road and would use the parts he is selling if they are good enough quality. A 250 dollar purchase that could cost you your motor or worse.

[TickleTimeTim]

thanks all of you for your input. im thinking i should probably stay away from this.

[Blown_xa]

thanks all of you for your input. im thinking i should probably stay away from this.

good choice

[yarisugi]

might be a CD you put in your headunit and turn up the volume for that turbo sound :)

[TickleTimeTim]

hmm, ill take it then. only if it comes in mp3 format with loud blow off valves

[WeeYari]

i have pics, ill try to post later.

I don't believe I'm speaking for just myself when I say we'd still like to see the pics.

[TickleTimeTim]

short video of a few parts. he offered everything for 200 if i pay by this weekend. sorry about sucky video and that its on facebook, let me know if you can see it.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=784676031331

[TickleTimeTim]

has anyone tried to see video?

[cali yaris]

"Video unavailable".

Are we still discussing this? :smile:

[TickleTimeTim]

haha. he dropped price and my boosted friends won't get off my back. ill retry

[TickleTimeTim]

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[KSIbucky]

short video of a few parts. he offered everything for 200 if i pay by this weekend. sorry about sucky video and that its on facebook, let me know if you can see it.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=784676031331

"This video either has been removed from Facebook or is not visible due to privacy settings."

[Bluevitz-rs]

"This video either has been removed from Facebook or is not visible due to privacy settings."

Same

[TickleTimeTim]

fixed it. please try again

[Bluevitz-rs]

just buy it and if it's no good for you, part it out.

[TickleTimeTim]

haha. did you see the video?

[Bluevitz-rs]

well, the parts can't be any worse than the chinese turbo used in the Zage kit can it?

[TURBO YARIS]

The turbo is going to have to be clocked. The turbine outlet is not facing the correct direction. The first part he pulls out of the box looks like a fuel pump, that's not going to work. The third part he pulls out of the box is a fuel pressure regulator, that's not going to work. That is not a Yaris kit. That is a bunch of turbo parts in a box. You get what you pay for.

[TickleTimeTim]

thank you. thats what i needed to know. if it would even work or not

[TickleTimeTim]

so, one of the guys really wanted me to at least try the kit, so he bought it for me for 200. cross your fingers and hold your breathe guys.

[Blown_xa]

You will end up with a car stuck in the driveway if you are going to install this. Be prepared to fork out more $ for misc parts. Also, what are you tuning with? IMO putting a $200 turbo kit on a 2007 car is ruining it. You have to pay to play...

[TickleTimeTim]

like i said, fingers crossed.

[cali yaris]

well, the parts can't be any worse than the chinese turbo used in the Zage kit can it?

What does that mean?

That's a bit unfair I think. I think you (1) have not seen that turbo yourself and (2) may not know that the turbo is being used quite successfully on at least ten Yarii now.

and that TURBO YARIS' kit also used a Chinese-made turbo (though I think it's a different brand than the Zage kit), and worked just fine.

[Bluevitz-rs]

No that's not what I meant. That it's probably the same turbo used in the Zage kit, so for 200 buck why not pick it up.

[cali yaris]

ok, sorry if I misunderstood. I read it that you thought the Zage turbo was crappy.

So, yeah -- it could be a LOT worse, to make it as clear as possible.

[TickleTimeTim]

hah. lets not focus on how bad this will probably make my car, but rather how awesome it would be if it worked. im currently searching for a place that will do a tune for when im done. there isn't anywhere in AR, so ill prob have to go to memphis or dallas. any suggestions?

[cali yaris]

there isn't anywhere in AR

Really? Did you try all of these?


http://www.stewartdyno.com/customers.php

http://polkperformance.com/
Polk Performance Telephone: 508-867-4120
2781 Johnson Ln Email:info@polkperformance.com
Bryant, AR 72015

Bolt on Performance of Arkansas
Telephone: 501-888-1566
5121 Honeysuckle Road
Email: eastend0376@sbcglobal.net
Little Rock, AR 72206
Website: www.boltonperformanceofarkansa.com/

Dynospeed in Memphis, TN

[ilikerice]

See, the point of that previous post, garm, was the fact he wanted you to do the searching for him. He thanks you.

:smile:

[TickleTimeTim]

actually, i did look, but yes, thanks garm. as usual you are my hero. polk shut down though, i called them a week ago. never heard of other two but will try. i tried motorsports authority in conway and a few other guys that from hear-say i heard about. thank you though.

[TickleTimeTim]

so ive been looking at focus' zage install for inspiration, and you guys are right, i certainly do need to clock the turbo. gonna put some work on it friday. ill keep you updated.

[TickleTimeTim]

Darn you guys and your rightness. Pulled the kit out of the box and found some stuff out. Yes the turbo needs to be clocked. But also, no downpipe, no blow off valve, and loosely fitting intake system. Hmm. When I sent a text to the guy, he didn't reply as nice as when he was trying to sell the kit, figures. I'll post a video of what was in the kit. This is where you all get to say, I told you so. Worst part is, in the back of my mind the whole time I was trying to buy this "kit" I had a feeling yall were right and i should stay away from this. Now I get to see if this kit is worth salvaging or if I should just make wall art of this mess.

[cali yaris]

Sorry about that. If you want to salvage a "kit" from it, study pimpmyaris old thread for his parts sources.

[WeeYari]

so, one of the guys really wanted me to at least try the kit, so he bought it for me for 200.

Who actually spent the $200? Way I read it, you've gotten a 'no personal loss' experiment sitting on your garage floor.

[ilikerice]

you could probably part it out and sell it in peices instead. probably get your money back if not at least half.

also what weeyari said.. sounds like you got this for free. did you?

[TickleTimeTim]

Sorry about that. If you want to salvage a "kit" from it, study pimpmyaris old thread for his parts sources.

eh, its my fault for not listening to you guys. yeah, i did read the thread a few weeks ago, may have to re read it.

my friend did buy the kit for me, but if i don't put it on the car i feel like he wasted 200, so i may try to sell parts and give him as much as i can back.

Is it even possible to go on with this kit? i prob couldn't find a match up downpipe. hmm, tough stuff. ill post video.

[TickleTimeTim]

and i do know the intake is not in the right place, i just threw it together for viewing purposes. however, it came with a filter but no tubing to make an intake out of.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=786160481481

[cali yaris]

Like I said -- you can source all the same parts pimpmyyaris used -- The only part he bought from us is the exhaust manifold, which you already have.

I'm pretty sure he fabricated a downpipe. If that's true, you need a shop to make some items for you.

[TickleTimeTim]

guess i need to reread his thread real quickly.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

There's no reason you can't make this work. I think the problem is you expected it to be slap on and go? That's more or less what the Zage kit is for. It wouldn't be too difficult (or nearly as expensive as the Zage kit) to have the remaining parts you need fabbed up. Some stuff (intercooler piping) you can just buy online after you measure it all out.

Don't give up so soon on being boosted! :wink:

[TickleTimeTim]

im gonna carry my turbo around tomorrow and stop by some exhaust shops and see if i can make something happen. gotta take time to figure out how to clock the turbo. then ill search for oil pan and blow off valve, and finally measure up and see how much piping i will need.

gonna take some time unfortunately, but for a good cause. just wish the turbo had some sort of model number or something on it, so i can know if its even the right size.

thanks for help and support.

[cali yaris]

You don't need a new oil pan. Tap into the block for your return line.

[TickleTimeTim]

getting denied a downpipe from a few places due to the oblong shape of the turbo side. i was told to check with welders. i'll keep looking.

[cali yaris]

I can get parts now from Zage. Let me know if you want a downpipe or any other parts from the kit I sell. :thumbsup:

[TickleTimeTim]

think the zage downpipe will fit my kit? send me a link and price and ill check it out

[TickleTimeTim]

so, i lack costs for a custom exhaust to be made, which is what i'd have to do. however, i am taking a look at an eagle talon full exhaust that he had hooked up to a t3/t4 to see if itd fit. he only wants $60. i also put this turbo on craigslist in case i don't find a fitment, and i have a guy with an xb offering to trade me his carbon fiber fender flares that have never been installed. they are the rivet-less ones. what do you guys think?

[cali yaris]

Only the fronts will fit off the xB, the rears are tapered for doors.

[TickleTimeTim]

hmm, good thing to consider. thanks

[TickleTimeTim]

So, I'm trying to get moving on this project again. After some research for a downpipe flange its looking like I may have some sort of garret turbo cause the t22 t25 flanges look like a perfect match. I think I'm gonna order a flange and go by Arkansas performance exhaust to get a quote on a downpipe. Anyone know the specs I would need to tell them for the downpipe? Also, would you suggest 2.5 inch piping? I found a guy selling some turbo parts off his 240 and he offered me his blow off valve with 2.5 inlet for 50 it comes with a boost controller. Good idea? I can try to post a video late tonight. I also found some letters I overlooked on my turbo a while back. It says TBO real big. Then like m3 a8 hope it isn't talking about BMW or Audi. Hah.

[TickleTimeTim]

Ohh yeah, he had a t3/t4 on his 240, would the bov be compatible? Sorry for noob questions.

[TickleTimeTim]

Based on pimp my Yaris thread, it seems 2.25" was the way to go. Could I buy his blow off valve that is currently sitting in 2.5 piping, and put it in 2.25 piping? Thanks again.

[TickleTimeTim]

I really need suggestions for a good bov. I see millions on eBay. someone help please.

[TickleTimeTim]

if anyone is still subscribed, turns out i can't clock my turbo due to internal wastegate, so im doing research on an external conversion without tapping into manifold.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

The BOV is probably going to need a custom mount, but I have no idea without looking at it. Otherwise there's no reason it wouldn't work.

turns out i can't clock my turbo due to internal wastegate

So you have an actuator on the turbo, correct? I don't see why you wouldn't be able to clock it...

[TickleTimeTim]

check the pics out, if i clock the turbo, that cross beam won't have an attachment site. let me know if you say otherwise.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Yeah you're right - it looks like it can't be clocked very much due to the actuator.

But why do you think you need to clock it? If you use either the Zage manifold or Garm's, the compressor out should be facing up. You're going to need to have the piping custom fabricated anyway.

[TickleTimeTim]

i guess when i looked at pimp yaris' thread, when he had it attached to manifold, it looked like they had a good 120+ angle between them. if im wrong, and mine will work as is with a little custome piping, then im happy. bought a blow off valve and boost controller today, will post pics soon. looking at flange sets right now.

[TickleTimeTim]

hmm...i guess i wasn't even thinking about how the manifold will run down which my angle would then shoot the towards the back of my car as it sits...right? hm. the only thing is that (unless when i add the flange it makes a difference) when i sit the manifold on the turbo, the compresser flange area won't let the mani sit flush.

[TickleTimeTim]

ordered flange set yesterday. also got a bov and boost controller. knock offs unfortunately...

[TickleTimeTim]

Tomorrow im going to trade the oversized jdm sport intercooler that came with the kit for the slim but long intercooler that everyone else has on here.

Now i want to get gauges and want one of them to be AFR gauge, any suggestions on a good gauge? i wanted to do the glowshift pillar that comes with 3 gauges for $140, but the AFR gauge they have only works with narrowband, not wide band. any suggestions?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

I've used both the AEM UEGO and Autometer's C2 series wideband - both are great.

[cali yaris]

Glowshift is not a good brand if you want gauges you can count on.

[TickleTimeTim]

thanks for advice, guys.

[TickleTimeTim]

so i finally stopped being dumb, and figured out how to clock it. i just need a new bracket. question-in the close up pic of the bolt, it shows that its two pieces, that's normal right? when i undid bolts. cause if it was one piece, it wouldn't come apart...right?

[TickleTimeTim]

flanges are in. i still need APE to make my custom exhaust, and i still need a new bracket for my turbo actuator

[pimp my yaris]

I cant believe I didnt see this thread before. Turbo looks usable, looks like a gt25 knock off. I can tell U one thing for sure. After many months of tunning headaches, there is no way to run a properly tuned car with a mass air flow sensor and a BOV. If U want it to run smooth and never dye out. You need to go stand alone with a manafold pressure sensor or recirculate blow off gases back into the intake. I just installed a hose to recirculate my BOV gases and my car has never run better. I would buy a BOV that you can attach a hose to. Just a sugestion. This project is sure to bring some heavy stress but if you finish it your car will be a lot more fun to drive. Good luck.

[TickleTimeTim]

Yeah, I've been picking up t25 parts and they seem to work pretty well. So i need to go with a whole different bov to be safe. Then ill be able to keep my maf if I reroute bov gases to intake? Thank you. Any mote suggestions?

[Blown_xa]

I cant believe I didnt see this thread before. Turbo looks usable, looks like a gt25 knock off. I can tell U one thing for sure. After many months of tunning headaches, there is no way to run a properly tuned car with a mass air flow sensor and a BOV. If U want it to run smooth and never dye out. You need to go stand alone with a manafold pressure sensor or recirculate blow off gases back into the intake. I just installed a hose to recirculate my BOV gases and my car has never run better. I would buy a BOV that you can attach a hose to. Just a sugestion. This project is sure to bring some heavy stress but if you finish it your car will be a lot more fun to drive. Good luck.

You can run a BOV, just run the MAF before the throttle body instead of the turbo inlet tube. It's called a blow through setup. Put BOV anywhere upstream from the sensor (12'' away suggested ). You will get no stalling because the MAF won't know the BOV is open.

This is an example ... one of our kits
44090

[cali yaris]

I put my BOV on the intercooler, Grand Am style.

[TickleTimeTim]

Hmm, pics?

[pimp my yaris]

I bought all the stainless pipes, 02 sensor bungs and a stainless flex joint to make a down pipe. Then I mounted the turbo and manafold and drove the car to a couple of exhaust shops. Until I found one that would work with me. Just make sure your oil feed and return are on. The idea of a pressurized mass air does work with a blow off valve. I just dont know how much that effects tuning. I have never seen a pressurized mass air sensor from the factory. One very important thing. Make sure the oil return line enters the top of the oil pan above the oil level. If it is submerged it will be restricted. I learned the hard way.
Got lots of smoke from the exhaust.

[TickleTimeTim]

got to do a little fitting today. someone please explain what the opening is on the pic of the close up of a pipe and also where i need to run my pipe to turbo. the AC compressor is in the way.

Fixed it, thanks stove

[TickleTimeTim]

oh and that intercooler that the guy said would fit, ridicutlous...i need a small one

[Stove]

Unless I'm missing something, the thing in the way is your A/C compressor not your alternator.

[Blown_xa]

You really just need to bring your car to a performance shop. All those pipes are universal bends not cut to length. Intercooler looks like it will fit, it helps though if you dont mount it upside down. Crashbeam has to go.

[jekqmb]

Oh boy by the time you finish this I bet you could have bought a Zage kit! Good luck man, you need to get this baby to a performance shop like Bown xa said!

[pimp my yaris]

Ya that intercooler is way overkill. It will cause to much turbo lag with a small turbo. Mine is only 5.5 inches tall. I bought a universal intercooler and pipe kit off ebay. Still needed to buy a second 2.25" pipe kit to finish.

[TickleTimeTim]

I'm learning the hard way if you can't tell by the questions I ask and the way I'm doing it all wrong. Yeah, do you remember the vendor you got yours from, pimp. I thought about doing that route. Nobody in town will do this for me. Not even the suggested names on this thread. I figure I wanna learn this anyway, so I just post pics and ask questions, and hope I dont get bashed too badly. Thanks for all advice.

[TickleTimeTim]

Oh, removed crash beam, didn't know that's what yall had done. Ok, I need another day off.

[Blown_xa]

Oh, removed crash beam, didn't know that's what yall had done. Ok, I need another day off.

most people don't , but I did . It is only designed for 5mph hits anyways.

[TickleTimeTim]

Is it self explanatory to remove? Or should I do a good bit or forum searching.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Don't remove the crash beam, just get a smaller intercooler. That thing is so retardedly large I can't even think of when it would be useful.

[pimp my yaris]

Take a look at this. This is the iintercooler and pipe kit I purchased from Ebay. It also came with a BOV that U can recirculate if U want to.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29053&page=5

[TickleTimeTim]

i see your kit, and i want it, but i didn't see the name of it

[TickleTimeTim]

Aha, found the kit for about 200. How much piping did you end up using from the second kit? Also, i see the bov it comes with, but do you think mine will do fine? How has your bov held up?

[TickleTimeTim]

what do you guys think of sunpro gauges? just as bad as glowshift?

[cali yaris]

a cheap gauge is a cheap gauge. It's below my tolerance for quality and reliability. Someone else might like them just fine, though.

[Bluevitz-rs]

I run Faze Gauges. It's an off brand of sunpro. Mechanical water temp and oil, and 5" tach with shift light. Only problem with them is the indiglow backlight is blue and VERY bright at night unless you run resistors on the power supplies. Also one of the power supplies is hit and miss whether the gauge lights up or not.

Edit: forgot to mention they're very accurate too.

[Stove]

Is the exhaust manifold in the "brand new turbo kit for a Yaris" going to fit your car? You might want to do some measuring and a test fit it to see if you are going to have to buy one of those as well. Since it's obviously not a Yaris kit, just a generic incomplete kit that the seller figured out wouldn't work on a Yaris, you may want to double check. Hate to see you get that far and find out you have one more part to buy.

[pimp my yaris]

I am running Auto Meter Phantom gauges. I tried some POS tachometer from EBay for 60$, and it now sits on a shelf. It was unreadable during the day and inaccurate. It also had a stepper motor that was very noisy. Auto meter and good quality and they been around forever in the muscle car crowd. Cost only half as much as Defi guages.

[pimp my yaris]

This is the intercooler I am using now. It fits perfect with the crash bar, and is the perfect size for a yaris with 10psi or less. To big a cooler will just add a lot of lag at low psi. I could not find the exact kit I bought with the pipes and BOV. They are all available separately though. U will still need Two 2"-2.25" silicone reducers, and a 2.25" intercooler pipe kit with bov. Make sure the pipe kit has at least 2, 180 degree bends. U will need them at both ends of the intercooler.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-28x5-5x2-5-Front-Mount-Bar-Plate-Intercooler-/290580038584?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a7eb83b8#ht_4355wt_780

[TickleTimeTim]

there is a guy with 3 autometer gauges and a pillar in texas that wants 100 for it, may consider that.

stove, i didn't even think about that, but that makes a lot of sense. a bit nervous now.

thanks for the intercooler page, and the advice on the 180 bends. i was thinking about sending my piping over the the engine like i had seen someone else do on here, cause i studied your pictures a million times and cant figure out where you sent you piping.

[cali yaris]

I have silicone tubing and reducers in a number of sizes in stock, once you know exactly what you need. I carry Flex Technologies, it's a bulletproof brand a lot of racing teams use.

[TickleTimeTim]

who will be shooting at me? haha. so should i get an idea with my current tubing and measure a bit, then shoot you a pm?

[cali yaris]

You should have your piping sized and placed so you know how many joints you have and what angle (0, 45. 90, 180 etc.). Or buy what you know you need and fill in as you go if you don't have clear picture of how all the pieces are going to go yet.

[pimp my yaris]

If U check my profile, "turbo project pics" there are more pics of some pipe routings.

[Schizoprenia]

I have silicone tubing and reducers in a number of sizes in stock, once you know exactly what you need. I carry Flex Technologies, it's a bulletproof brand a lot of racing teams use.

wheww.. i just know this Garm, would have asked you for some hoses, a friend of mine's LanEvo III's using cheap hoses that would come off( :evil: really!...) when at full boost condition. all stock...

[Blown_xa]

I run Faze Gauges. It's an off brand of sunpro. Mechanical water temp and oil, and 5" tach with shift light. Only problem with them is the indiglow backlight is blue and VERY bright at night unless you run resistors on the power supplies. Also one of the power supplies is hit and miss whether the gauge lights up or not.

Edit: forgot to mention they're very accurate too.
mechanical oil pressure gauges scare me. I imagine the line popping off the gauge and having 90psi of hot oil squirt me in the eyeball causing me to wreck and blow the motor at the same instant.

[cali yaris]

mechanical oil pressure gauges scare me.

+1. fuel pressure too. Fuel and oil are not allowed in my cabin!

[TickleTimeTim]

you guys are fantastic and i have greatly appreciated all advice, but due to my wife getting cut back on hours and a decrease of tips at my job, the turbo kit is going on the back burner. ill mod in other, cheap ways like normal, but i'd rather do something this big when i had money to do it right the first time. at least i'll know what to do different next time, and i've learned a lot. thanks guys.

[Bluevitz-rs]

mechanical oil pressure gauges scare me. I imagine the line popping off the gauge and having 90psi of hot oil squirt me in the eyeball causing me to wreck and blow the motor at the same instant.

HAHA, well, 6 years and never so much as a drop has leaked. But even that said, I'm going to switch to electronic gauges in the future. My only issue with the mechanical ones is that I can't take them out if I need to because they're connected to the engine. LOL

[cali yaris]

^ hadn't thought of that. Yet another good reason. :smile: