STF posts

[justjesus]

hankooks!! yay.

Im tempted to pick up some Toyo R1Rs in a 205/45-16 off a member of Cal Club. But, they're not the magic 195s :(

[ilikerice]

the pixie dust R1R are no more. The last ones sold from a vendor was back in Oct. I remember reading an article about that back in december. Then had a talk with a few people at Dixie National tour. They were saying the same thing.

[ilikerice]

most drivers in The Prosolo and National Tours don't run Hankooks this year because they dropped out of the contingency program. They are suppose to come back but later on this year..

[justjesus]

the pixie dust R1R are no more. The last ones sold from a vendor was back in Oct. I remember reading an article about that back in december. Then had a talk with a few people at Dixie National tour. They were saying the same thing.

aw man. bummer. thanks for that info, though.

[ilikerice]

So who is Travis Sackwar and Alvin Francisco running a White Yaris that placed 1st and 2nd in San Diego Champ Tour on the first day?

http://sololive.scca.com/STF.html

[xnamerxx]

Alvin owns the car and Travis is his codrive.

Alvins not much of a forum guy, so I don't think he'll pop up here.

Car is pretty simply, hes running a 21mm rear bar, and fortune coilovers, and a muffler delete. He's also running Federal 595 RSR tires.

[xnamerxx]

Congrats to Travis and Alvin for the 1-2 finish in STF :)

[ilikerice]

NICE

[andres3165]

Alvin owns the car and Travis is his codrive.

Alvins not much of a forum guy, so I don't think he'll pop up here.

Car is pretty simply, hes running a 21mm rear bar, and fortune coilovers, and a muffler delete. He's also running Federal 595 RSR tires.

Hear people driving those Federals more and more.. why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPQAA9sn1zI&list=UUeT9E6gegIYMP8Kz84e1XHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AA2qvLl0Uw&list=UUeT9E6gegIYMP8Kz84e1XHg

Good driving

Andres

[ilikerice]

I don't know andres... The r-comp pixie lady must have sprinkled her dust on these instead of the R1R tires on accedent. I am tempted to get these as well. $65 a tire is pretty damn cheap to test.

[xnamerxx]

No one in STF at SD was running the older tires.

The 2 was on Dunlops
The Yaris on Federals
The Mini on Rivals

For that site Federals at least on paper look like the best choice. If I had to pick a tire though, I would say new Toyos would probably be best.

[justjesus]

Congrats to Travis and Alvin for the 1-2 finish in STF :)


Congrats indeed.

I was a bit surprised to see Don Green in STF. Co drive with J. Austen, it appears. Don is a pretty decent driver who's had very good results in Stock with the Mini (not sure if it was Austen's or not) over the years.

But cool deal with Travis / Alvin representing the Yaris in STF!

I'm tempted to visit the Pro Solo coming up!!

[justjesus]

Hear people driving those Federals more and more.. why?



Like I like Rice said, they're cheap. I have them on my CRX, and have done some autoX as well as a couple of track days. I like them just fine. For the price, I LOVE them.

Somebody at my skill level (bottom of the STC class) might be better off saving money with these, while improving my skill, before stepping up to the more expensive tires.

The other side of that coin, is to get what I know works, and I already have a benchmark (the other STC guys in my class) and can continue to improve my driving. With the R1Rs, on my Civic, I know my car has alot more than I can give it (my co-drive took 3rd in a Pro-Solo).

[xnamerxx]

Day 1 of the ProSolo is starting very excited to be teaching against some fierce competition.

Bad news though the tckline mini sounds like it has a rod knock I really hope I'm wrong about that.

[ilikerice]

Good job. That blue mini is joe Austin's.

You guys got 8 runs total... lucky

[xnamerxx]

The mini belongs to someone named Christopher Miller. The noise was a bad idler pulley.

[xnamerxx]

Getting ready for my last runs, hope I don't embarrass myself.

[xnamerxx]

Well finished 6th out of 8 with a 1.5s spread between 1 and 7. If I didnt have a two .95s reaction times I would be going to the challenge. With the reaction time taken into account I had the fastest left side time.

[xnamerxx]

https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-0/1010699_655617064509240_2133033286825995223_n.jpg

[ilikerice]

Awesome, congrats man. Scott got you by fractions. Scott was close on my tail the first day also..

[xnamerxx]

I would have had him if I pulled a .7 reaction time on either side.

Videos of my fast times.

Got the video fixed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZn9ohOH2Y&feature=youtu.be

[andres3165]

Ideally the best car is Yaris sedan.

Its several inches shorter in height so the CG is lower and the frontal area is lower, its 2 inches longer and it weights a few lbs less. You also have the smaller front swaybar so inside spin isn't as much of a problem.

Based on recent results I still think there is a lot to get from the Yaris which in STF prep version my get better power/weight ratio than my Mazda2, enough to compete with the powerful newcomers like the 2.3 Focus and pf course Mazda 3

Do you have documented data on those numbers, like weight and stuff between sedan and hatch ?

Thanks

Andres

[xnamerxx]

Most of the numbers are available online like weight and wheelbase and height etc but I don't have any exact numbers.

Personally I would go with a Scion XD if you could get the weight down to the 2400lb range which I don't know if thats possible. Motor is good for well over 140hp on a Mustang Dyno, and it uses the same chassis as the Yaris with the lower roofline of the sedan, plus is has awesome gearing.

[andres3165]

Thanks, found them, who has the most powerfull STF legal Yaris? How did he achieved it?
Headers, cai , pulleys, tuning?, header back?
I haven't seen dynos higher than 112 hp or so..

Thanks

Andres

[ilikerice]

will need to pick at Travis Sackwar and Alvin Francisco brain and find out whats under that hood of the yaris. I don't know anything about those guys. First I heard about them, but yet, this is my first year actually paying attention to ST national events

[xnamerxx]

Their motor is stock with 120k on it last time I saw.

[ilikerice]

Well then its straight up all driver then.

I know joe austin has everything that can possibly be done to his mini to make it STF legal, including a reflash on his ecu, which if i can recall correctly, it was somewhere in the 140-150 hp range when I talked to him, which was back in March.

So for Travis Sackwar to come only .100 from Joe at the June 13th national event is saying something. Joe can drive, he just has a hard time getting clean runs.

http://sololive.scca.com/STF.html

[xnamerxx]

Power means almost nothing for most STF cars. Last I spoke with Alvin, he was doing some more suspension tuning on the car and upped the spring rate but I'm not sure how that panned out since I haven't been to an event in a few months.


There is no question Travis is a better driver than Joe, he runs a car on street tires that isn't competitive and he cleans up in DSP.

Here is a vid of Sundays course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TElHqcC_rI&feature=youtu.be

[andres3165]

Definitely a great driver, car seems really strong but a little pushy, sounds amazing and great skills down shifting. Is there a way to change the Rev limiter, that would change the car big time.

How can I contact those guys?

Thanks

Andres

[justjesus]

Their motor is stock with 120k on it last time I saw.

Yup indeed. I couldn't believe it, so I asked to look under the hood. Stock down to the stock air box! He might have had an exhaust muffler, but can't recall for sure.

As Namer pointed out, last I checked with him, he was looking at stiffing up the springs.

Yes - he and his co driver are both good drivers. When I ran against them, they killed me by like 4 seconds. I doubt that's attributed to car set up!

[xnamerxx]

Video is from Tyler Colgetts STF Fit.

As far as the rev limiter, your best bet is probably to change the crystals in the ECU otherwise you'll need an aftermarket ECU or something like that.

Couldn't tell you how to get in touch with them, I only talk to them at events.

Found one of Alvins Videos from Crows Landing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxktIQKCYa0&list=UUeT9E6gegIYMP8Kz84e1XHg

[ilikerice]

quick question. Got a friend who is going on a track day and has a turbo. Been searching, but can't find anything about disabling the speed limiter.

Anyone got any suggestions about this or solutions?

[xnamerxx]

Pull the speedo plug. Its what I have to do to get around it on the BS car, just make sure you don't pull the battery otherwise the ecu won't go into learning mode.

[BondXII]

So you go on track not knowing how fast...other than GPS? Just wondering. I don't pay much attention to the speedo anyway. Too busy paying attention to the other racers. Lol


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[xnamerxx]

Basically. The speedo is way off and I can't see the gauge cluster because of the knee bar, so the only gauge I pay attention to is the tach.

[BondXII]

I'll try that. Would hate to have to point people by just because the old Bumble Rumble fell on its face. With your setup...how fast is too fast?


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[xnamerxx]

Usually its right around 105 on the GPS. Not sure of the track you're gonna be on so it may be an issue it might not. At the slower tracks like Big Willow or Streets of Willow its not really an issue, at faster tracks like Buttonwillow or AAA Speedway its a bit more of a problem.

[xnamerxx]

For an actual STF update, ran the AutoX car again in what feels like a really long time. Car worked exactly like it was supposed too, except I think I was overheat my RS3, not all that sure, don't really have any AutoX experience with them.

Anyway heres a video of my fast run. 4th\22 in 2nd runs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE1Q8kAq4TM#t=27

[xnamerxx]

Well another weekend another race, got 3rd place about a second behind Travis and a little under half a second behind Alvin. Nothing really to complain about, aside from the sharp right at the start made it hard to put power down, but other than that the car was tight and felt fantastic.

Had Jason@sportscar hope in and give my GF a quick instruction run. Thought it would be cool to do a side by side shot from his run to my fast run.

My run was a 58.7 and Jasons run was a 59.6. I'm sure he would have put quite a bit of time on me if he was more familiar with the car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WN570Jvy-g&feature=youtu.be

[andres3165]

Well then its straight up all driver then.

I know joe austin has everything that can possibly be done to his mini to make it STF legal, including a reflash on his ecu, which if i can recall correctly, it was somewhere in the 140-150 hp range when I talked to him, which was back in March.

So for Travis Sackwar to come only .100 from Joe at the June 13th national event is saying something. Joe can drive, he just has a hard time getting clean runs.

http://sololive.scca.com/STF.html

Finally had the chance to meet Travis and his co-driver at Nationals last week; nice guys, great drivers. Just need to prep the car a little bit more to win for sure.


Andres

[ilikerice]

Well. Dixie Nationals is coming up in less than 2 weeks. I feel like I have become a much better driver in the past year. After going to many conventions and be able to participate in the Evolution Driver school a month ago, I feel my driver mod has increased.

Nothing has really changed much except tires. I got a chance to talk to Andy Holis at the MSX Expo/SCCA conference a few weeks ago. During a Tire panel with BFgoodrich and Hoosier Reps as the speakers. I was asking questions the pros/cons between going with a 225 and a 205 tire on either a 7" rim or 7.5" rim. They wanted to talk to me after the panel but they got swamped with other people, so I started out the door. Then Andy stopped me and we started talking.
Basically he said you loose tire stiffness when you pinch a tire on the rim with street tires. You want lateral side wall but a slight stretch is recommended. He suggest to go with a 205 on my 7.5" rim. So I did.
Purchased 4 205/50/15 BFGoodrich Rivals. I have yet to really try them out in the dry. Our last event was all wet so was hard to dial in. But I was able to get 1st in Pax again, and I feel I wasn't giving it 100%. So thats good.

So far only 4 STF drivers.. I have signed up for contengencies for BFG and Hawk, but need 5 starters in order to get awards. Hopefully 1 more will sign up..

Where you at Andres?

[Russelt3hPirate]

Well. Dixie Nationals is coming up in less than 2 weeks. I feel like I have become a much better driver in the past year. After going to many conventions and be able to participate in the Evolution Driver school a month ago, I feel my driver mod has increased.

Nothing has really changed much except tires. I got a chance to talk to Andy Holis at the MSX Expo/SCCA conference a few weeks ago. During a Tire panel with BFgoodrich and Hoosier Reps as the speakers. I was asking questions the pros/cons between going with a 225 and a 205 tire on either a 7" rim or 7.5" rim. They wanted to talk to me after the panel but they got swamped with other people, so I started out the door. Then Andy stopped me and we started talking.
Basically he said you loose tire stiffness when you pinch a tire on the rim with street tires. You want lateral side wall but a slight stretch is recommended. He suggest to go with a 205 on my 7.5" rim. So I did.
Purchased 4 205/50/15 BFGoodrich Rivals. I have yet to really try them out in the dry. Our last event was all wet so was hard to dial in. But I was able to get 1st in Pax again, and I feel I wasn't giving it 100%. So thats good.

So far only 4 STF drivers.. I have signed up for contengencies for BFG and Hawk, but need 5 starters in order to get awards. Hopefully 1 more will sign up..

Where you at Andres?

Good luck at Dixie, I think i've raced with you at a roebling rd event a year or so back. Drove up from Orlando in my STi.

What Andy said matches what i've felt when driving cars with pinched tires, plus with the yaris being a momentum car the lighter 205s will help as well.

Keep us posted how you do at Dixie.

[ilikerice]

Will do. I now have a gopro so there will be video.

I am now the solo chair for Coastal Empire Buccaneer region. So next time you come up, ill be the one running around making sure its going smoothly.

[Russelt3hPirate]

I recently moved to the frozen north (Iowa). My good friend still runs with you guys though. He has our old Yaris actually, but AutoXs a 2013 White STI.

Congrats on the solo chair position!!

[ilikerice]

Ehh.. I wouldn't say congrats.. I love the sport and want to see it continue, the previous solo chair was getting burned out. I went ahead and stepped in to keep it going. I would love to just show up, do my worker assignment, drive, help clean up and leave. Only chance I get to do that is going to another regions event.. HAHA.

[andres3165]

Good luck Derrick. Rivals will do well in the cold, just practice on friday with 25-27 psi's . Wont be there since move to Mn. and my car is not ready yet.

Andres

[ilikerice]

Well, that sucks Andres. Thanks for the Pro tips!

Last day for registration for Dixie. Looks like we have 6 drivers in STF. Hoping to get Hawk or BFgoodrich contingency win...

[ilikerice]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Rival+S&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=05WR5GFRS&tab=Sizes


Damn Rival S just got released... DAMMIT.. I could have had these for Nationals...

[andres3165]

Good Job!!!!!!!! Wow !!!!! Congrats.

What else did you do to your car from last's year event ?

Andres

[BondXII]

Congrats D. I was watching you...well listening, since the streaming only had audio this weekend. Quite a battle in all classes this year. I still need to hard wire my FIC and the X-Runner isn't as competitive as it use to be in STX. Maybe next year.


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[ilikerice]

@Andres
The difference was last year I had the OEM mid pipe, this year I upgraded to the Nitto midpipe, cut off one of the resenators and welded a cat in OEM location.
Also, last year i was running 225 hankooks on a 7" rim, this year I went with 205 Rivals on a 7.5" rim..

But I think the biggest difference was the driver mod... I have improved a lot in 2014 and really understanding the mental prep work that is required to find the best lines and memorizing the course. After each walk through, I would close my eyes and run the course in my head. If there was a spot in my memory that I was unsure of, I would walk the course again. I would repeat this until I can drive the course in my head every time.

Also, the GoPro helped a lot. Being able to view my runs after ward and seeing where I needed to get close to a cone, brake later, or get on the throttle more was what I needed.

@Bond
Thanks for listening. I haven't had a rush like that in a long time. My hands were still shaking in grid afterwards. My last run, I gave it everything I had and after viewing it on my gopro, I think there was still maybe .100 in a spot or 2. I was nailing every turn.

I will post up a decent video later on for all to see.

[andres3165]

@Andres
The difference was last year I had the OEM mid pipe, this year I upgraded to the Nitto midpipe, cut off one of the resenators and welded a cat in OEM location.
Also, last year i was running 225 hankooks on a 7" rim, this year I went with 205 Rivals on a 7.5" rim..

But I think the biggest difference was the driver mod... I have improved a lot in 2014 and really understanding the mental prep work that is required to find the best lines and memorizing the course. After each walk through, I would close my eyes and run the course in my head. If there was a spot in my memory that I was unsure of, I would walk the course again. I would repeat this until I can drive the course in my head every time.

Also, the GoPro helped a lot. Being able to view my runs after ward and seeing where I needed to get close to a cone, brake later, or get on the throttle more was what I needed.

@Bond
Thanks for listening. I haven't had a rush like that in a long time. My hands were still shaking in grid afterwards. My last run, I gave it everything I had and after viewing it on my gopro, I think there was still maybe .100 in a spot or 2. I was nailing every turn.

I will post up a decent video later on for all to see.

Awesome !! see you back when????
You have a title to defend

Andres

[andres3165]

At your next National event look for this car .....

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009203_10155959988765377_1721743433961510264_n.j pg?oh=dd7ef71d65139466792d099ce5e2eafc&oe=5581CCC7

Andres

[Blown_xa]

Congrats again dude!

[Eduardo_mty]

At your next National event look for this car .....

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009203_10155959988765377_1721743433961510264_n.j pg?oh=dd7ef71d65139466792d099ce5e2eafc&oe=5581CCC7

Andres
Do you take your idea from Mazda cx555133

Take a look my car

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[Eduardo_mty]

I need better vinyl work and photoshop help

[andres3165]

I need better vinyl work and photoshop help

Yes... ;)

And this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f8/29/aa/f829aa5b5e2ca3774b59046d6430caa1.jpg


Andres

[Eduardo_mty]

I liked that cx5 pictures to choose yaris color.

I want to do that vinil work in my car

[ilikerice]

I will definitely keep my ears open for you Andres.

I am trying to plan a trip to Lincoln Nationals. I can't promise anything because i got alot of stuff going on that month already.

[kwkshft]

Thinking of doing more autocrosses this year than I usually do (once or twice a year) so buying a good set of tires. I've got a spare set of wheels- 15X7 RPF1s. Looking at 195/50 Hankooks or 205/50 Rivals, Dunlops even Bridgestones. Would appreciate any feedback on these. Thanks.

[CrankyOldMan]

I ran 205/50 Rivals on 15x7's the last 2 seasons. I don't have anything to compare them against, but they seemed to work well. I found that I had to keep the fronts near max pressure (52 psi) to keep them from rolling under, but it could also be that I'm over driving the corners and using tire pressure to fight understeer.

I'm leaning towards the Proxes R1Rs in the magic 195/50R15 size, but haven't decided for sure. The AutoX season starts a little later up here, so I've still got some time.

[ilikerice]

I am running 205 on 7.5" rim, my fronts are at 34psi and probably can drop the pressure just a bit more. I am not rolling on my tires. Cranky, maybe you should try a 195 tire on the 7" rim to give it a bit more stretch.

I only have experience with RS3 and Rivals. I feel the RS3 is more grippy in long sweepers but the Rivals respond much better in slaloms. After talking to some guys at nationals. In the end, it all boils down to driver preference. Unfortunatly in order to get the right tire for your driving technique, its a matter of "trial and error" for each tire. I can explain how each tire works in difference circumstances, but until you actually get in those situations, its all the same.

Put it this way. Everyone in my class at nationals was driving Dunlops and Hankooks, I was the only one on BFGoodrich. I felt that I was at a disadvantage but I ended up taking 1st place. I feel tires just boils down to driver capabilities.

BTW Cranky, R1R doesnt have the pixy dust in them anymore unfortuantly from what people are saying

[CrankyOldMan]

Well crap. My only real complaint about the Rivals was the tread overlap separation. I'm going back through my list of wheels and I don't think I have a 7.5--only 5.5, 6 and 6.5. The Rivals don't come in 195, so maybe something else is in order?

I think the only "pixie dust" was that the tread compound was sticky all the way to the cords, so you could shave them and still have the equivalent of fresh compound. I don't shave them, but I will run them to the cords before tossing them.

The other consideration for me is that I'm firmly entrenched in SMF, so sky's the limit on treadwear. Of course nobody makes R-comps in 195, but I can dream, right?

[ilikerice]

Give it time. There was much frustration with tire choices before the National tour and many guys were holding out til late april when new tires and sizes will be available.

Another thing I learned about tires that will either help you or make you more frustrated. It is better to have a slightly stretched street tire on a rim to help with tire response.
NOW, this is the opposite for R-comp Tires though. R-comps have much stiffer side walls and they say it is better to pinch a tire on a rim for the max amount of grip. Next time if you get a chance to look at some National event pictures, look at the tires. You will notice that R-Comps are pinched and street tires are slightly stretched.

So I would go with a 225 R-comp if you end up going that route.

[CrankyOldMan]

Correction--I've got a set of 15x7s, but the cost of R-comps is about double my tire budget. I'm not going to be running in national events, so a set of 140-200 treadwear is fine for my purposes.

Thanks for all your shared wisdom!

[ilikerice]

I don't blame ya.. Rcomps are so expensive. And I can't justify R-comps with out a limited slip diff. Im already getting inside wheel spin on street tires and barely stock motor.

[CrankyOldMan]

I don't blame ya.. Rcomps are so expensive. And I can't justify R-comps with out a limited slip diff. Im already getting inside wheel spin on street tires and barely stock motor.

Even with the LSD, I get lots of inside wheel spin with my winter tires. That could be part of the nature of a helical diff, or the 130-ish whp I'm pushing out. Hopefully a new set of summer tires will fix the wheel spin on my daily commute.

The one AutoX event I did last fall on my nearly-dead Rivals still had inside wheel spin on sharp cornering, but sweepers would hook just fine and pull hard through the apex. I've got new Tokico Reds and a fresh set of MI springs this year, so that may allow more control of tire contact in the corners.

[ilikerice]

Hmm. interesting, thanks for the info on the Helical diff experience.

I agree with you about where the wheel spin is happening. I noticed in my videos that that is where most of my wheel spin is coming from.

I just got all my video's on one computer now and I started trimming them up. I just gotta edit them now. I will have it up hopefully either tonight or tomorrow.

[andres3165]

I need better vinyl work and photoshop help

Looks good to me

Andres

[ilikerice]

So I been looking for new suspension and a friend linked this to me... I may have to invest in this...

When I first saw it and scrolled down to the list for makes and models, I thought, great, something else that everyone else gets except Yaris. I went ahead and looked for Toyota's list expecting to see Supra and GT86 of course... Damn, I was soo wrong

http://www.motioncontrolsuspension.com/products/prices.html

[CrankyOldMan]

Are remote reservoir suspension setups allowed in STF? I can't put my finger on the specific rule, but I seem to recall a prohibition on them for vehicles that don't come from the factory with them.

[ilikerice]

I would have to look it up. You could be correct, but anything 1 way adjustable is better than the 5 year old megans I have now. I'd get the non-remote anyways. I am not that lazy, gez

[ilikerice]

Here is my video finally. It is a bit long but its in chronological order from Test N Tune on Friday to the Final run on Sunday. Time results are at the end of each run. Hope you enjoy it. No music this time, figured some of the autocross guys wanted to hear the tires and throttle control. Any questions and explanations requested are welcome. Feel free to judge also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdbYyrl6LVI&feature=youtu.be

[ilikerice]

Finally ordered my matching gauges. I need the oil filter sandwich adapter for my oil pressure sensor.
2 part questions. Is there a better/easier spot to get an oil pressure sensor?

If I do get that sandwich adapter, which one?
-3/4 UNF-16 - Fits Mazda with spin on conversion, some Nissans, VW, Ford, BMW, Scion, SRT-4, SR20, Toyota & Jeep
-3/4 UNF-16-Long Shaft- Fits Toyota Celica, Scion Tc, & MR2

Thanks in advanced.

[BondXII]

I've been using this one successfully so far. And you know how "nice" I am to the car. ;-)

http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/oilfilter-sender-adapter-34unf-16.aspx


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[ilikerice]

Thanks, I went ahead and ordered one from Prosport, same place as I got my gauges. I went with the regular one. I believe its the same as yours except mine has 3 connections instead of 2. May use the 3rd one for oil temp sensor later on

[ilikerice]

Quick ?

The Coolant sensor adaptor, should I do the lower or upper radiator hose? I remember someone posting about it somewhere where they suggested...

Coolant going into the block would have a cooler reading.. but would you want to know the coolant temp before or after the coolant has passed through the block?

In the end I guess it wouldn't matter.

[BondXII]

Your normal reading is incoming temperature. This will let you know that the incoming water is in the 190 range. You could do either side, but if you put it on the out going side to the radiator, you would have to know what the normal temperature is pre-radiator. In reality, it doesn't matter where you put it...as long as you know what the temperature is supposed to be in the area you install it. But when you look at the OEM sensor, it's going into the motor and not coming out.


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[ilikerice]

makes sense.. what i thought

[Jason@SportsCar]

Are remote reservoir suspension setups allowed in STF? I can't put my finger on the specific rule, but I seem to recall a prohibition on them for vehicles that don't come from the factory with them.

14.5.B: Shocks are open in ST - less electronically controlled units.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Quick ?

The Coolant sensor adaptor, should I do the lower or upper radiator hose? I remember someone posting about it somewhere where they suggested...

Coolant going into the block would have a cooler reading.. but would you want to know the coolant temp before or after the coolant has passed through the block?

In the end I guess it wouldn't matter.

Just use the OE signal. Should be able to pull it from the OBD2 port.

[CrankyOldMan]

Aah, so remote is fine, but not ferrofluid? OEM being the exception.

[xnamerxx]

ferrofluid is legal as long as the car came with adjustable shocks as OEM.

As it sits there isn't really a lot of options for aftermarket MR shocks and I wouldn't go with any of them if the controller is not setup correctly for the vehicle.

[ilikerice]

Just use the OE signal. Should be able to pull it from the OBD2 port.

hmmm.. will try that, thanks.

[andres3165]

I need better vinyl work and photoshop help

Final product for 2015

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Andres

[Eduardo_mty]

Andrés do you have a .... "blueprints" to do that work in my car, at least the doors.. Do you can share?

[andres3165]

Andrés do you have a .... "blueprints" to do that work in my car, at least the doors.. Do you can share?

I did not have blue prints , besides the picture I posted before I made using the "paint" program from my 8 years desktop. I can send you more pictures and views of mine.

Andres

[Eduardo_mty]

I did not have blue prints , besides the picture I posted before I made using the "paint" program from my 8 years desktop. I can send you more pictures and views of mine.

Andres
I will appreciated, if you send more pictures
Andrés do you have a .... "blueprints" to do that work in my car, at least the doors.. Do you can share?

[BondXII]

Just use the OE signal. Should be able to pull it from the OBD2 port.


Need to check with the gauge company D. The factory output may not be the same for the gauge that you bought. Hate for you to tap that signal wire just to find out that your reading 89 degrees when it's actually 195. Lol


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[ilikerice]

Yea, that was what I was afraid of. I think I should just use the sensor the gauge came with instead. When I do my water pump, I will install this at the same time while the coolant is drained.

[CrankyOldMan]

Just wanted to update my new tire info and give some feedback. I went with 195/50R15 Z2 star specs on the 15x7s and 195/55R15 DZ102s on the 15x6.5s. The 102s ride nicely and hold up well in the corners. The Z2s held up well at reasonable pressures and behaved themselves under heavy cornering. It's gonna take a while to re-learn how to drive it, but I have high hopes.

*edit*

I also have an update on the LSD: having a proper alignment makes a world of difference with inside wheel spin. Even with my near-bald snow tires, I was able to gain huge amounts of traction coming out of a corner on my daily commute. I've finally got my summer tires on, so I'll give them a good flogging today on the way to/from work to make sure that's still the case.

[kwkshft]

Just wanted to update my new tire info and give some feedback. I went with 195/50R15 Z2 star specs on the 15x7s and 195/55R15 DZ102s on the 15x6.5s. The 102s ride nicely and hold up well in the corners. The Z2s held up well at reasonable pressures and behaved themselves under heavy cornering. It's gonna take a while to re-learn how to drive it, but I have high hopes.

*edit*

I also have an update on the LSD: having a proper alignment makes a world of difference with inside wheel spin. Even with my near-bald snow tires, I was able to gain huge amounts of traction coming out of a corner on my daily commute. I've finally got my summer tires on, so I'll give them a good flogging today on the way to/from work to make sure that's still the case.

What region do you run in? I run in FWR(Fort Wayne, IN). Might be worth it to come take a look how your car runs. Just ran my Yaris yesterday in STF with brand new Hankook RS3s, quite a difference from 2 or 3 years ago when I last ran it.

Eric

[CrankyOldMan]

I normally run in West Michigan Region, but they haven't had any events since 2013. Hence the traveling to South Bend. I plan on running the rest of their events at that site, but the other locations are just too far for now. I'm also getting into rallyX this year with Detroit Region and Furrin Group (furrin.org).

[ilikerice]

Cranky, you are running LSD in STF?

I have not tried the Z2 or Star specs. I tell you though, Rivals are in my favor. I am still waiting on my Rival S to come in. They are taking their sweet time.

[CrankyOldMan]

Oh, no, I haven't been in STF for a while. I'm just here for the tire advice. =)

[kwkshft]

I normally run in West Michigan Region, but they haven't had any events since 2013. Hence the traveling to South Bend. I plan on running the rest of their events at that site, but the other locations are just too far for now. I'm also getting into rallyX this year with Detroit Region and Furrin Group (furrin.org).

I can probably make it to the Aug or Sept event but just to spectate.

[ilikerice]

Oh, no, I haven't been in STF for a while. I'm just here for the tire advice. =)

Ahh, smart man:thumbsup:

[ArmstrongRacing]

Oh wow, I didn't know YW had a STF thread. I used to post on MI as 2007TRD years ago, here too at some point. I've been competing in SCCA solo for 1.5 years now, in San Diego and now in NorCal. Just finished a back-to-back National Tour (2nd)and Pro Solo (5th)at Crows Landing. Let me know where I can drop a photo of my Sedan.

[ilikerice]

Drop it right here.. We don't complain about random photo's. unless I have to scroll left or right to see it, then I get frustrated.

WHAT! You and Alvin have been talked about here a couple of time... I root for you guys every time I look at the attendance for the west coast. I finished my National tour here at Dixie back in March. Was able to squeeze a 1st place.

Joseph Austin is a damn good driver too. Only if he can pull a clean run. It's either the fastest run or coned run for him, haha. He has come down to our region a couple of times.

[ArmstrongRacing]

Apparently you can't post pictures on here from FB? I don't have a hosting site...

Great job on the Win....or wins shall I say. I see you do really well. Joseph is really cool, he gives good advice and is a real help to the sport and class. Mike H. In his RSX raped us at the Pro, but I Was able to take down a SSP R8 in the bonus round!

[ilikerice]

So, I don't know if anyone remembers, but there was a discussion in another thread about the Yaris, Versa, and fit were not listed in the FSP class for SCCA Autocross. They went straight from STF to SMF. Yea, it was back in February. Anywho!

Thanks to Jason and a couple other that schooled me about classes when I said the Yaris goes to FSP for certain modifications, I put in a petition to get them added to the FSP list.

4 months later, they just released the FastTrack rule change. YAY!

#16432 Yaris, Fit, Versa Classing Proposal
Per the SPAC, add the following new listings in Appendix A, effective immediately upon publication:
FSP
Honda
Fit
Nissan
Versa (2007-15)
Toyota
Yaris

[CrankyOldMan]

Nice!

[ArmstrongRacing]

Awesome!

If anyone is interested in checking out my pictures and setup changes, just visit the FB site in my signature. Videos are also there, but my YouTube link is down there too...

[ilikerice]

OOOOooo... question about your brake pads. I am running the HPS Hawk pads but to be honest, they feel like OEM pads. Hawk doesn't offer HP pads on their website, did you have them custom make them? or do you have to call to special order them? I ask because I just received my $100 certificate from nationals and I have no use for it now.

[ArmstrongRacing]

I ordered my Hawk pads from Amazon, but I think TireRack has them too. They are great, get them up to temp and they stop like crazy.

[ArmstrongRacing]

PRO SOLO

[ilikerice]

Great shot! I would love to hit up a Pro Solo. Closest one here is New Jersey or Lincoln... bother are like a 9-10 hour drive.. I was going to go to Nationals this year but my sister is getting married on a cruise that week afterwards.. i cant take off that much time from work.. Maybe next year.

[ArmstrongRacing]

Wow, thats far. Here I am complaining about a 2.5 hour drive....

I still haven't been to Nationals either, 23hr drive from NorCal

[ilikerice]

HAHA, yea, our closest National Tour at Dixie Region is about 3 hours away. So I feel your pain. They have a Match Tour coming up in a week or 2 but due to financials (new puppy), I will skip it this year.

[ArmstrongRacing]

What exactly is a match tour?

[ilikerice]

Match tour is like a normal national event on saturday. The winners of each class go against each other on sunday. I don't know how many runs you get but if you hit 1 cone, you are eliminated. So it makes for an interesting winner.

[ArmstrongRacing]

Awesome! That's exactly how the bonus challenge round of the pro solo are run....vey fun! I beat a V10 R8 in the yaris!

[xnamerxx]

Its been quite a long time since I AutoXed but I took the race car out, and let it stretch its legs a little. Gearing is kinda wrong, so I had to used 3rd quite a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-m8SfVdpbc

[ArmstrongRacing]

Nice! Im assuming street tires from all the wheel spin...lol.

[Ben_]

Attended my first national event a few weeks ago. Match tour not pro solo. I found it very unfun. Especially competing against 2 drivers in a fiesta st. I ended up 5th place behind the 2 st drivers, a vet in a crx, and a local guy I compete with in an accord

Short story I have more fun at local events where fun>winning


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[ilikerice]

All those cars are in either STS or STX. Fiesta ST is a STX and the crx is in STS with other miata's

I am confused.

I love national events because of the people there and you really get to see where you stand and how much improvement you need to do.

[Ben_]

Street class I don't run stf. Couldn't short the bills and it turns out that was a good move trying for a second car to race with the Yaris is just too damn slow. Parts are cheaper for some other cars, so for the money I would have spent on parts could have a better end result with the same money in a different car


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[Ben_]

I got smeared by 3.5 seconds by the fiesta. Look up the results for Farmington Utah match tour. Me and Brian in the accord usually are stiff competition at local events depending on the corse/day. So we got sweeped by the out of town ers. The guy in the crx was a fully prepped car and previous national champion


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[Jason@SportsCar]

Attended my first national event a few weeks ago. Match tour not pro solo. I found it very unfun. Especially competing against 2 drivers in a fiesta st. I ended up 5th place behind the 2 st drivers, a vet in a crx, and a local guy I compete with in an accord

Short story I have more fun at local events where fun>winning


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I am confused by your description... Is it only fun when you win, or when you think you are competitive because no fast guys showed up? Natl events are the ONLY way to measure where you stand.

How did them wiping the floor with you make your driving experience any less fun? It should have only had an impact on your fun level if you were concerned with the results.

Harnish is fast, but he has the wrong car for HS, just as you do.

[Ben_]

I've even thought the same thing myself. Playing under dog is an interesting position. Being a uncompetitive unprepared car in the lowest class makes things very interesting sometimes. I've come to expect that I will be at least mildly competitive since I consider myself to be mildly seasoned with almost 40 events under my belt. It kinda takes the fun away when I don't even stand a chance of winning. I still had fun, yes, but did I have as much fun as I do at a local event? No

I asked the driver of the ST fiesta what he thought about his car being in hs and he told me this

I bought this car because I was driving a Porsche 911 gt-something and I wanted a car that was class competitive in street class. I bought this car when it was in GS knowing it was competitive in that class. When they moved it to HS in 2015 I was pleasantly surprised

I asked him if we switched cars would the outcome be the same? Would the fiesta win by 3~ seconds?

He said in your car I don't stand a chance.

We both had a similar amount of seat time. About 1.5 seasons


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[Jason@SportsCar]

I've even thought the same thing myself. Playing under dog is an interesting position. Being a uncompetitive unprepared car in the lowest class makes things very interesting sometimes. I've come to expect that I will be at least mildly competitive since I consider myself to be mildly seasoned with almost 40 events under my belt. It kinda takes the fun away when I don't even stand a chance of winning. I still had fun, yes, but did I have as much fun as I do at a local event? No

I asked the driver of the ST fiesta what he thought about his car being in hs and he told me this

I bought this car because I was driving a Porsche 911 gt-something and I wanted a car that was class competitive in street class. I bought this car when it was in GS knowing it was competitive in that class. When they moved it to HS in 2015 I was pleasantly surprised

I asked him if we switched cars would the outcome be the same? Would the fiesta win by 3~ seconds?

He said in your car I don't stand a chance.

We both had a similar amount of seat time. About 1.5 seasons


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40 events, 1.5 seasons... Still wet behind the ears, you still dont know what you dont know. Harnish would have likely been as fast in your car as the CRX.

Is the Fiesta fast for the class? Yes, but I doubt it beats the Mini at Natls in HS.

[ilikerice]

Jason has valid points.. even if you did autocross once a month, thats still only little over 3 years. I been doing this for 8 years now and I am still learning things. I was able to place 1st place at Dixie National event back in March, but by the skin of my teeth. I love national events just for the fact i get to see where my skills have taken me.

Try going to STF with just some Good coil overs and tires... you will see where you stand then. STF is still a cheap class once you get past the the coil overs

[Ben_]

Very true about my skills. I didn't even have a chance against the fiesta and I don't think I'll be doing any out of town national events. I do well at the local events and enjoy the competition factor which I didn't see at the national event. I wasn't the only one who felt this way. I also like the relaxed feel of local events. I'm told we have one of the most laid back chapters around the west and I love that

I had less fun at nationals because things were very serious. I love going to local events and just having fun with some healthy competition. I have met a lot of good friends and that is half the reason I go to events so often.


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[Ben_]

Either way I love competing locally and plan on buying a different cheaper car to mod, 240sx Miata or eg Honda. I love my Yaris, I will never sell it, but right now it just makes sense to own a second car for racing so I don't ruin my work transportation any more than I already have. The 240/Miata/eg Honda will be better for cheap somewhat competitive fun I'm thinking


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[ilikerice]

I guess National events in the South East are a bit more friendly. We usually try to get a group of us from our region to hit up a National tour or Match tour. We really try to push each other and help out with tips as much as we can. I probably talked to every person in STF class and became good friends and still keep in touch via facebook stilll. We even swap video's to compare.

You can't go to a national event not knowing anyone and just sit in your car after your run and expect people to flock to you. I see it all the time and those guys are usually the grumpy cats. You gotta talk to people, ask them what they are having difficulty with and share your experience about the course. Everyone wants to win, no doubt, esp when you got contengicies on the line, haha.

I also like to watch people prepare themselves before. It's intereting to see real competitive drivers get in themselves metally prepared. You can see it in people's eyes when they look out of a course and see that try to memorize every cone there.

Puts a smile on my face knowing we are all there for the same reason and there can only be 1 winner.

[Ben_]

Scca is a very special thing. I'm glad to be a member and won't look back. Best thing that happened to me in the last year

Besides getting a job in the mining industry that would top it. But not by as much as I would have thought


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[ArmstrongRacing]

Finally mounted my 225/45ZR15 Hankook RS3's and raced on them today. Hands down the best tire Ive tried so far. Took fist place today, but unfortunately I wont win the championship.....because I miss too many events lol. I like the track too much...

[Ben_]

Nice! I got the new bridge stones on this weekend and I love them! I guess any new tire is a good one lol. Still have the wrong size I'm running 205s on stock width rims

[ilikerice]

Im telling you. I went from 225 to 205. You don't want to mushroom the tires on rims with street tires.. You want a very slight stretch. Your tire response will improve. Street tire side walls flex too much unlike the Rcomps. I run 205 Rivals right now. The Rival S will be my new tires for next year though.

RS3 are amazing and I did great my first couple of years on them.. but when I switched this year before National tour at Dixie, I felt a better response in tires

[ArmstrongRacing]

Ive read the articles about tore fitment too, and they mention exactly what you said. With my 205 dunlops, the tire temps were within 2-3 degrees, ant the tire edges still wore off first. The 225 is big for a 7" wheel, but it feels amazing. Im going to dial in a bit more camber then check temps again....hopefully before Laguna

[ilikerice]

what psi are you running?

[ArmstrongRacing]

On the 205 I ran 34-35.....I did the same with the 225 and the rears were perfect. The fronts showed about 7-10 degrees hotter on the outside edges @-2.0 camber

[Ben_]

I will be getting 195 for my next set. Hopefully one of the manufacturers makes a 185 tire but that seems unlikely. I still am wearing only the outside edge so I won't even bother with a temp gauge I know they squirm and roll very badly with my current setup. I got a great deal on these used tires I could not refuse so that's why I'm running them. $250 for a set of Potenzas with 80-90% was too good to let go. They barely seated on the rims had to over pressure them to 65psi to get them to fo

[andres3165]

what psi are you running?

So what are your plans for 2016?

Andres

[ilikerice]

So what are your plans for 2016?

Andres

HEY ANDRES!

I plan to hit up Dixie Nationals again, I placed 1st this year but thats because you didn't show up. Also really want to go to Lincoln Nationals.. Depending on how much time at work I can save and the money situation when it gets closer.. EVERYONE is getting married in Oct 2016 UGH!

Car plans.. Need to get the front bumper garnishes and fog lights back on here sometime soon, people keep questioning me about that every time I go to Dixie.. I got exhaust leaks from crappy welding. Need that fixed.. Will be running Rival S next year also. I am trying to sell my Konig Candy rims to get my hands on some RPF1's.. Will push them a bit harder after my last event this year in Nov.

You still running your Mazda2? In STF?

[Ben_]

Plans for 2016 is to mod my new Honda Civic Dx 95. Should be interesting. Took it out for the first time this weekend and found out the struts are pretty blown so I have a starting point now

[ilikerice]

Plans for 2016 is to mod my new Honda Civic Dx 95. Should be interesting. Took it out for the first time this weekend and found out the struts are pretty blown so I have a starting point now

What class are you going for?

[andres3165]

HEY ANDRES!


You still running your Mazda2? In STF?

I do, I went yo Nats , I knew I was not going to win with the new Hondas overdogs, but I drove like sh.. not enough seat time like 2014, and I had an ABS failure as ll.
I learned though that if we don't get close to 140 hp to the wheels is a lost case with the newcomers.
So i am geting to changes on the car, realistically I can get 135-137 to the wheels, but also need to loose some weight, I can get down to 2120, no less.

As of today I have 127hp to the wheels, but not enough torque, so I am in the process of getting a new tune with Orange Virus Tuning, maybe 6-7 more HP and new headers 4-2-1 config for torque.

And yes I will go to Dixie, although I am back in Minnesota ;)

Andres

[ilikerice]

Nice... Good info to know. I will have to throw mine on a dyno maybe sometime next year. I have a CamCom II but it isn't tuned yet. I can't find anyone near me I really trust...

[Ben_]

What class are you going for?


The car came with poly bushings so I'm auto sts. Should be a good time!

[ilikerice]

ooo... running with the Miata's

[Ben_]

The car to beat for my region is a crx. I have my work cut out for me

[ilikerice]

oh yea you do.. haha. crx aint no joke

[Ben_]

Mostly he is prepared for the class and has a pretty substantial drivers mod

[ArmstrongRacing]

Drivers mod trumps all other mods!

[ilikerice]

This is probably going to be the last year of the yaris.. I just acquired a 240sx S14 shell and will be collecting parts for it this year.

I will be going to Dixie Championship Tour next month for SCCA Autocross. If I manage a podium position (1st, 2nd, 3rd), I will go to the National Championship at Lincoln, NE in September. If I can get a podium position there, I will continue with the Yaris in STF.

If I lose at Dixie or National, whichever comes first, I will revert the yaris back to stock and start putting my money into the S14 in SM class and just have fun with it.

I love my yaris, and it is fun, but in the back of my mind, I have always just looked at it with a sad thought... it just doesn't have that fast car look... Sits too high, headlights are too large, the wheels are too small for its body... Yes, all these things can change with some money but it will take away from the performance of the car and competitiveness.

With that said, I will still keep it but will only be my work commute car. I will still be around to give advice and poke fun at others.

[Ben_]

I'm doing exactly the same as you. Bought a Honda eg8 and now have more money in parts than the $1300 purchase price. First event this season is tomorrow I'll see how she runs.

The Yaris never left stock so I daily it and use it as a parts car lol. It's 10/10 good at that job. With good tires the limit of grip is much higher than legal speeds limit. Definitely needs more power though

[Ben_]

Im in stf looking at going to smf and techicly all ready am since I changed the steering rack

[justjesus]

I also like to watch people prepare themselves before. It's intereting to see real competitive drivers get in themselves metally prepared. You can see it in people's eyes when they look out of a course and see that try to memorize every cone there.

Puts a smile on my face knowing we are all there for the same reason and there can only be 1 winner.

Reading that and having flashbacks of when I used to go often, that put a smle on my face.

I've been out of it for far too long. Hoping to run some events this year.

[ilikerice]

You should, just to shake that rust off...

[Ben_]

I still have the Yaris and it still runs great! Daily duity from now on I'm thinking maybe I'll put some lowering springs on it and mini emola wheels

[ilikerice]

New proposal for the Hot Hatches Class. Making an STH class with all 4 seat boosted cars 2.5L or less in one class.. all the other STF cars moving to STS or STX... There goes the the competition for the Yaris in ST... At least the LSD would be legal... haha

What are your opinions?

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