Thinking about a new 2018 Yaris IA sedan ...

[tdinut]

I had and loved a 2008 Yaris sedan. I've been shopping lately and really like the 2018 IA sedan with automatic. After watching some YouTube videos, I should be able to get 40-50 mpg. Very exciting.

:burnrubber:

[NYC-SE]

Are you aware that the "Yaris" iA is not a Toyota but a Mazda?

[tdinut]

Absolutely. But I think that's a good thing. It's a Mazda 2 if I remember correctly. All reviews have been great and I think reliability will be awesome.


Are you aware that the "Yaris" iA is not a Toyota but a Mazda?

[ern-diz]

Nice! Post pics if you end up getting one.

As for Mazda reliability being on par with Toyota...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9f23ec9925904db8ccecf57659e8c44c/tenor.gif

[tdinut]

Ha!

I’ll be making a decision in the next week or two. My main reason for getting the IA was because of the conventional auto transmission (as opposed to the CVT). I’m not convinced CVT transmissions are as reliable right now. I also like how it now has 6 speeds vs 4 on my 2008 Yaris.

Just curious what are your recommendations for the most reliable vehicle Toyota or otherwise. I need/want either a hatchback or wagon type vehicle but keep coming back to the IA.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts.

[ern-diz]

I think a couple of the most reliable vehicles from Toyota aside from the Yaris are the Corolla and Camry. Outside of Toyota, the usual suspects from Honda are a sure thing.

[tdinut]

Thank you so much. That's what I'm thinking as well. I'm doing more car shopping tomorrow and this weekend.

[kimmysawi]

Thank you so much. That's what I'm thinking as well. I'm doing more car shopping tomorrow and this weekend read more at emilydavinci.com (https://emilydavinci.com/vtightgel-review/).

This was not that much easy to mark things revise because of that new law :w00t:

[Leegamer]

I understand your hesitation to go with a CVT, though they are getting better.

I was a huge fan of the mazda 2 hatch, but I think the yaris iA is one of the most boring looking cars I've ever seen.

[jess]

had a mazda rx7 in the 80s. With 200k. Got a new 09 Yaris now at 300k and running fine. With onky routine maintenance.

[DarkShadowFox]

*cries internally*

[Leegamer]

I also plan to update the car, look at the new Toyota Yaris Liftback 2018, found a good option for leasing , I think to make a gift for myself by new year. It's been a long time since I indulged myself in such purchases :)

Nice! If you can get a good deal then may as well.

[2008RedHatch]

The new NG Corolla 2019 hatch, 2020 sedan, has a newer CVT with torque converter for starts.

[Hamster]

I hate this trend of putting a CVT in everything. Not that I'm in the market for a new car, but I'm quite disappointed that you can't get a Corolla with a normal automatic transmission anymore. Wonder if it will have an impact on Toyota's reputation for reliability. When I hear "CVT," I immediately think of Nissan and all the problems they've been having.

[bronsin]

This engine has direct injection, which can carbon up the intake valves. Also Mazda automatic transmissions are not as good as the Asin transmissions Toyota uses. You’re probably get good use out of the car, but it’s not a Toyota! :thumbdown:

[bronsin]

Do a search for Scotty Kilmer Yaris 1A

[rikkki]

I also plan to update the car, what do you think about the Toyota Yaris Liftback 2018? I found a good option for leasing here http://www.mnautoleasing.com/car-lease-deals/toyota , they promised to add this model soon. I would like to hear your opinion.

[DarkShadowFox]

I also plan to update the car, what do you think about the Toyota Yaris Liftback 2018? I found a good option for leasing , they promised to add this model soon. I would like to hear your opinion.

dont lease just buy, ive had mine on a 5 year loan and its lasted through sitting and incliment weather, there bulletproof cars, dont lease, cause it will last forever esp with the 2018 having Nav and cruisecontrol and lane keep assist and comfeh seats and all that jazz, in an 18k car you wont find much else not even ford, in a more ergo layout oh and it uses the 1nzfe so you can get crap like JUN cams and do a 1.8 TB swap and still make 200HP in a 2335 pound car.

[Hamster]

Leasing is never a good financial decision. You pay for depreciation, and then some, and have nothing to show for it after you return the car.

[DarkShadowFox]

Leasing is never a good financial decision. You pay for depreciation, and then some, and have nothing to show for it after you return the car.

leasing is for people who are super rich and like to trade up or something alot right?

[ShadeTreeMech]

Just bought a 2019 Yaris LE sedan to replace our 2008 Yaris sedan. Both manual transmissions.

The 2008 ran perfect for 11 years, 170k miles, just had someone in the family that needed a reliable car so we passed it on and bought a new one. Only problem aside from normal maintenance was a couple of broken subframe bolts. Hoping the 2019 is just as reliable. 120 miles in, still trying to remember 6th gear exists.

[IllusionX]

Leasing is never a good financial decision. You pay for depreciation, and then some, and have nothing to show for it after you return the car.Depends what you want with your car. Leasing is a good way to lower monthly payments, and saves the hassle of selling the car 4-5 years later and dealing with people.

I do get tired of my cars. First car I had it for 2 years, but it was also beat up and it was a used car anyways. 2nd car, I had it for 2 years as well. 4000$ loss because it was a purchase.
3rd car.. got a lease. Bye bye after 4 years. Got rear ended and insurance decided to fix for 10k instead of totaling. The tailgate never worked properly afterwards. It was the best decision going on a lease

Now my Yaris was leased as well. Never thought I'd keep it, but I purchased it after the lease. Did the math, and it cost me <1000$ more to lease + buy back than it would if I purchased with a car loan at first.

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[kimona]

Leasing is working out well for me. If I consider tax on a purchase, registration, dealer fees, and depreciation, it's a huge WIN at these silly leasing rates from GM:

I lease a $26K 2017 Buick Encore for $129/mo./24mos. with $1000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

I lease a $32K 2018 GMC Terrain for $129/mo./24mos. with $2000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

Both cars are German (Opel) platforms and are a pleasure to drive. The Buick is assembled in Korea, the Terrain in Mexico. I could not be happier with these vehicles. As far as long term reliability is concerned, who cares! I have free maintenance for 2 years, free courtesy cars, free car washes, free roadside assistance... and then return the car to the dealership when the lease is up and get a new one.

[Leegamer]

Leasing is working out well for me. If I consider tax on a purchase, registration, dealer fees, and depreciation, it's a huge WIN at these silly leasing rates from GM:

I lease a $26K 2017 Buick Encore for $129/mo./24mos. with $1000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

I lease a $32K 2018 GMC Terrain for $129/mo./24mos. with $2000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

Both cars are German (Opel) platforms and are a pleasure to drive. The Buick is assembled in Korea, the Terrain in Mexico. I could not be happier with these vehicles. As far as long term reliability is concerned, who cares! I have free maintenance for 2 years, free courtesy cars, free car washes, free roadside assistance... and then return the car to the dealership when the lease is up and get a new one.

How many miles do you drive per day or week?

[kimona]

Both leases are 10K miles/year, which gives us 20K miles/year split between 2 cars.

The Buick has only 4 payments left before I return it, and it has about 9500 miles on the clock. The Terrain is 13 months into the 2 year lease and has about 6000 miles on it. So, we live close to the schools where we teach, and don't otherwise drive too far out of town.

[IllusionX]

Leasing is working out well for me. If I consider tax on a purchase, registration, dealer fees, and depreciation, it's a huge WIN at these silly leasing rates from GM:

I lease a $26K 2017 Buick Encore for $129/mo./24mos. with $1000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

I lease a $32K 2018 GMC Terrain for $129/mo./24mos. with $2000 cash down, including registration, documentation fees, 1st mo. payment/tax.

Both cars are German (Opel) platforms and are a pleasure to drive. The Buick is assembled in Korea, the Terrain in Mexico. I could not be happier with these vehicles. As far as long term reliability is concerned, who cares! I have free maintenance for 2 years, free courtesy cars, free car washes, free roadside assistance... and then return the car to the dealership when the lease is up and get a new one.That's cheap!! Base+Skyroof package Terrain is at least 350$US a month here.

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[kimona]

That's cheap!! Base+Skyroof package Terrain is at least 350$US a month here.

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I know! My best friend in BC leases his cars, and I think he pays about CDN$400/mo. for a Toyota Corolla. At that price, it would be much better for most people to just purchase the car.

[yarisbug]

I also plan to update the car, what do you think about the Toyota Yaris Liftback 2018? I found a good option for leasing here http://www.mnautoleasing.com/car-lease-deals/toyota , they promised to add this model soon. I would like to hear your opinion.

I recently bought a new 2019 liftback (we still have the real Toyota built version here in Canada). Great little car other than a telescopic wheel would be nice, and a little more lumbar support. Otherwise I dig the backup cam, reliability, heated seats, etc.

Do it!

[Leegamer]

Both leases are 10K miles/year, which gives us 20K miles/year split between 2 cars.

The Buick has only 4 payments left before I return it, and it has about 9500 miles on the clock. The Terrain is 13 months into the 2 year lease and has about 6000 miles on it. So, we live close to the schools where we teach, and don't otherwise drive too far out of town.

I'm about to move and my commute will only be 30 miles total per day. That's only 7800 miles per year, so I might consider leasing my next car.

[kimona]

^^^ Doesn't VA have those insane dealership fees? When you purchase or lease a car, the dealership always adds on a $699 non-negotiable dealer fee. We had those fees when I lived in Florida.

[Leegamer]

^^^ Doesn't VA have those insane dealership fees? When you purchase or lease a car, the dealership always adds on a $699 non-negotiable dealer fee. We had those fees when I lived in Florida.

Maybe. I haven't bought a car from a dealer since 2008 when I bought my Yaris. I'll have to look into it. If so I'd just go to North Carolina and buy a car.

[myfirstyota]

Lee, didn't you just buy a place? Or am I feeling the effects of legal marijuana? Lol

[Leegamer]

Lee, didn't you just buy a place? Or am I feeling the effects of legal marijuana? Lol

I did, indeed. Haven't moved in yet, though. Been doing reno since mid January and living with family.

[myfirstyota]

Moving again? Or am I confused and you're just moving to the new place you already mentioned with that sweet garage...

[myfirstyota]

10-4 hopefully a hoist is part of that reno list :)

[kimona]

Here are the dealer fees by State. Click on the link below and scroll down to find the chart of fees. (I'd simply paste the chart into a post, but I don't seem to be able to do that).

https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/what-fees-should-you-pay.html

[Leegamer]

Moving again? Or am I confused and you're just moving to the new place you already mentioned with that sweet garage...

Same place. Bought it January 15th and have been doing work on it since. Moving in finally in about 2 weeks.

[Leegamer]

Here are the dealer fees by State. Click on the link below and scroll down to find the chart of fees. (I'd simply paste the chart into a post, but I don't seem to be able to do that).

https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/what-fees-should-you-pay.html


you were right about the fees. :brokenheart:

[Saintjmv04]

This engine has direct injection, which can carbon up the intake valves. Also Mazda automatic transmissions are not as good as the Asin transmissions Toyota uses. You’re probably get good use out of the car, but it’s not a Toyota! :thumbdown:

First off, you are partially correct regarding the direct injection system. It is a dual system... there are two injectors per cylinder, one above the valve and one directly in the cylinder. This design prevents carbon build up.

Also, the most recent Yaris Sedan based off the Mazda 2 platform is rated by JD Powers as a 4.5/5 star rating for reliability... I could argue other things, but this is just to touch the surface.

The yaris is an incredible value for what you get in terms of fit, finish, solid aftermarket support, fuel economy and descent engine power for day to day driving for those of us that don't race around trying to pass every car we can on the highway.

[Saintjmv04]

The new NG Corolla 2019 hatch, 2020 sedan, has a newer CVT with torque converter for starts.

Within the past week (Today is Sunday March 19, 2019) Toyota has a recall (not formally called this) on premature wear for their CVT transmissions in the Corolla. Prius has a different CVT containing a planetary gear set (unlike the metal belt in the Corolla) for their hybrid, which is the most reliable CVT in the industry.

...just something to be aware of. Traditional CVTs (metal belt driven) are still struggling to find their place and are still in the process of refinement in terms of performance and reliability.

[kimona]

CVT's... ugh!

[KALISPEL II]

First off, you are partially correct regarding the direct injection system. It is a dual system... there are two injectors per cylinder, one above the valve and one directly in the cylinder. This design prevents carbon build up.

The new 2019 Corolla hatch & upcoming 2020 Corolla sedan Dynamic Force Toyota engine uses a combo port/direct-injection design, but none of the Mazda Skyactiv engines do as far as I know. They are a straight GDI design, and that means that fuel/gasoline additives cannot clean 50% of what they need to keep clean in an engine to prevent carbon buildup.

[KALISPEL II]

CVT's... ugh!

My thoughts exactly. I think if I was going to try a CVT in a regular car (a non-eCVT CVT), it would be the new in-house KIA forte design that uses a more robust metal chain driven design instead of a metal push-belt design. The KIA design is the first of its type to be implemented in smaller/lighter cars in the place of the flimsier push-belt design, & doesn't drive/feel like a push-belt CVT. Plus, the 2019+ KIA Forte doesn't use a GDI or Turbo engine (though the 2020 GT version will). If I don't go that route in 2020 with a Forte EX (or the non-GDI engine GT-Line trim), I will probably work on tracking down a low-mileage used 2018 Yaris SE hatch automatic (the last of the bulletproof 1NZ-FE Yari sold in the U.S.).

[Saintjmv04]

My thoughts exactly. I think if I was going to try a CVT in a regular car (a non-eCVT CVT), it would be the new in-house KIA forte design that uses a more robust metal chain driven design instead of a metal push-belt design. The KIA design is the first of its type to be implemented in smaller/lighter cars in the place of the flimsier push-belt design, & doesn't drive/feel like a push-belt CVT. Plus, the 2019+ KIA Forte doesn't use a GDI or Turbo engine (though the 2020 GT version will). If I don't go that route in 2020 with a Forte EX (or the non-GDI engine GT-Line trim), I will probably work on tracking down a low-mileage used 2018 Yaris SE hatch automatic (the last of the bulletproof 1NZ-FE Yari sold in the U.S.).

I noticed that with the Kias as well. I think they are great cars overall. I use to own a Forte 5 (hatchback) with DI. I looked at the new Fortes with CVT and came across the more robust belts used in my research. I think they may be worth considering. I hate autos with gears :-/ ... I never cared for how they feel with shifts as they age. I've always been a manual trans person, but after putting my body through high performance endurance activities and considering stop and go traffic daily, MT ended up not being a smart move on my part.

[KALISPEL II]

I noticed that with the Kias as well. I think they are great cars overall. I use to own a Forte 5 (hatchback) with DI. I looked at the new Fortes with CVT and came across the more robust belts used in my research. I think they may be worth considering. I hate autos with gears :-/ ... I never cared for how they feel with shifts as they age. I've always been a manual trans person, but after putting my body through high performance endurance activities and considering stop and go traffic daily, MT ended up not being a smart move on my part.

I know the feeling. I've always enjoyed driving manual transmission cars, & have never owned automatic transmission vehicles in my 37 years of driving. My only experience with automatics is from driving the occasional rental car here & there over the years. I still enjoy driving my manual Yaris today for the most part, but I am not getting any younger, and the frustration of stop-and-go traffic, & every-increasing congested city driving, in general, is finally starting to take its toll on me. That is why I am looking to buy my first automatic with my next vehicle in 2020 or perhaps 2021. The thing is that I really don't want a low/random-lifespan, rubbery-feeling push-belt CVT automatic, a carbon-sludge prone straight-GDI engine, or high-stress turbo on my car, and that limits my choices to next to nothing really in the current new car market. So, either a lightly-used 2018 Yaris SE hatchback or 2020/21 KIA Forte EX or GT-Line (sedan or hatchback) are my current top choices for my first automatic vehicle.

[kimona]

^^^ I've driven many of the Hyundai/Kia vehicles, and I liked most of them. But, with all the problems (check out the forums), mass recalls for major issues, and horrific customer service, I wouldn't NEVER consider one right now... even for a short term lease.