The Lift Kit Thread aka The Canadian Commuter mod

[myfirstyota]

One day, I was driving down a snowy road in a lowered yaris. My old silver '07 3 door to be exact. As I could hear and feel the snow dragging on the floor pan I thought, am I gonna get stuck? How much extra fuel is this requiring? Is that massive ice chunk that fell off that truck gonna take out my bumper? Or worse a fuel line or something of the like? The answers that came to mind were maybe, a shit ton, and possibly, respectively. That's where it began... The idea of a fully bolt in suspension lift for our awesome little cars.

3 years later I got serious about it. My truck wasn't justifiable to continue to own. The cost of ownership versus the amount of use it got didn't add up. The thought of driving a lowered car through another winter made me cringe. The thought of swapping springs every 6 months bothered me. The idea of a yaris on stock suspension made me puke a lil in my mouth. So I started researching.

I found the Yaris Overlander. Black 3 door based out of B.C. Canada. Cool ride but, not a whole lot of info on the build itself. I found CTScotts crashy. Wild what that guy has done with that car. I researched donks (I know a donk is model and era specific vehicle but are generalized as lifted cars with huge wheels)

After soaking up all this, I came up with a plan. A front wheel drive donk/crashy inspired (coppied) front lift. Basically just 2 heavy gauge plates of steel with 2 sets of 2 holes drilled into them the same distance apart as the 2 bolts that hold the knuckle to the front strut. Exactly how crashy got its lift. Essentially lengthening the strut between the knuckle and where it mounts to the strut. I seen that many fwd donks are built this way and thought if Scott can plow with this setup, and donks run 28's on this setup.. it must be strong enough.

Ok, cool. Front is done. But what about the rear? Longer springs? Shocks to match? Off the shelf spring spacers? How will it ride? Will I be able to get the rake right(Stance)? How am I gonna find a longer shock that fits? I decided f_ck all that. I'm gonna use the stock springs and stock shocks just like the front. Rake will match factory, shocks will be easy to source, and if done right, could be completely bolt in.

So I went out to my scrap xD with my grinder and a cut off wheel. Zip, zip,zip and I'm holding 2 rear spring perches identical to the ones on the yaris axle. These are the key. These will allow you to retain your stock shocks because the lower shock mount is part of the spring perch.

This is where the measuring tape came out. A few quick measurements jotted down on a sketch pad and I was on my way to the metal place. $105cad and a waterjet cutting table and I have my pieces to fabricate my custom spring spacers.

The idea here is to fabricate a spacer that will sit in the factory spring perch and allow the donor xd perches to sit on top of them. Essentially pushing the lower spring perch up in relation to the rear axle. If the perch is mounted higher on the axle, the axle will sit further from the bottom of the spring giving you your lift.

Now pushing the axle down 3-4" will change the angle of the spring perch. To compensate this, I plan to cut the top of the spacer body on a bit of an angle. This should allow the xd perch to sit closer to the natural angle of the oem perch.

The oem perch has 8 holes in the base of it. I plan to drill 4 corresponding holes in the bottom flange of the spacer. That will be the 'bolt in' part. Pretty sure I'm just gonna weld the top xD perch to the top flange. No need to ever take that apart really.

I feel as though I may need to brace the shock mount on the upper xd perch as much of the strength was probably lost when I cut the perch from the axle. I don't see this being hard. Couple small pieces of metal bolted from the strong lower mount straight up to the weaker upper mount. I believe this is problem solved.

So my welding isn't the best, but I think it's gonna hold. I wanted to see what kind of angle the stock spring perch sits on so I can adjust the angle of the spacer to sit close to the factory spring perch angle...if you catch my drift.

http://i.imgur.com/1gdCPtP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jmwvGMP.jpg

Here is the properly mocked up spacer. Just gotta finish up the welds and drill 4 holes in the bottom flange.
http://i.imgur.com/QKqw56l.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/zPuhaNR.jpg

Here you can see how they sit in the factory spring perch.
http://i.imgur.com/INVETgY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0BAhZRF.jpg

This is the spacer with the spring perch and shock support all welded up. Remember now guys, this is a lift kit thread, not a welding-skills-flaming thread! In my defense you're only seeing pictures of the driver side. The passenger side was much prettier. I'm slowly getting better.
http://i.imgur.com/YFhU4VE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s0Gt7yH.jpg

This is the spacer installed and lightly bolted in place. The washers were adjusted for the final tighten. The shock bolts I bought are a tad too short. No biggie. Swap them out for a longer version tomorrow.
http://i.imgur.com/ltJipOw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TzQvjWJ.jpg

There we are with the spring installed. No compressor needed but it may be a tight fit if you're limited with Jack height :)
http://i.imgur.com/nQLgzLf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Tvw5qp7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Rb8LYZF.jpg

Once you lower the car, what you're doing sets in.
http://i.imgur.com/J070MW3.jpg

Then I drove it up on a 4 inch brick on one side, and 3 inch assortment if wood on the other, just to see what it would look like
http://i.imgur.com/w5we2OM.jpg

So,I've finally been able to almost complete the front lift. Just need find something to keep the upper bolts from collapsing the shock tabs when tightened. I'm just thinking stacked washers. Easiest and cheapest.
http://i.imgur.com/31rcbyi.jpg

Disregard the clamp. It's just holding everything tight so you can get a better idea how it all works.

The only thing is, by doing the lift this way, you will need to grind/cut the bottom lip off the strut with an angle grinder/rotory tool for the 2 lift plates to sit parallel with each other. Other than this slight modification, both the front and rear lift are bolt-in.
http://i.imgur.com/Jc4c9uY.jpg

Here you can see the oddly shaped upper spacer plates. They need to be cut like this to give you a flat-ish surface to mount the outter lift plates. The knuckle mounting tabs on oem shocks are stamped and have irregular shape assumingly for ridigity. If you have an aftermarket shock, these may not be needed. For example my bilstein shocks on my red car, have flat mounts.
http://i.imgur.com/aKhbucB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7FxyWFN.jpg

In this pic you can see the assortment of spacer plates it takes to make this work with oem shocks. Notice the upper spacer plates are chamfered on the edges to clear the angles of the shock mount. You can also see some clearancing on the lift plates themselves.
http://i.imgur.com/tpsOWSw.jpg

Here you can see how the bottom spacer plates work
http://i.imgur.com/znljWI6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b7msqXc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jz0zzP6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b3Hctje.jpg

[myfirstyota]

As mentioned in a recent post, the driveshaft won't clear the subframe when the wheels are pushed down almost 4". The passenger side hits the front control arm bolt. So the quest to lower the subframe begun. I fabricated these spacers from 2.5" square tubing with a 3/16" thick wall. The spacers were then boxed on one side for strength while allowing access to the bolts on the other.

Mocked up:
https://i.imgur.com/ogHKGojh.jpg

Welded up:
https://i.imgur.com/g9MuulAh.jpg

Primed, ready for paint:
https://i.imgur.com/R3hDXqMh.jpg

Painted:
https://i.imgur.com/rHZvSnUh.jpg

As you can see, my welding is getting better lol. However I can only lay about 3/4" of bead before my welder trips the breaker. Need that 240v plug!

The bottom holes of the spacers are large enough to accommodate a 1/2" drive extension. If you insert a socket inside the spacer and attach the extension through the bottom of the spacer, you have a practical way of tightening the bolts going into the body of the car.

Making space for the extension
https://i.imgur.com/lvFF82Ch.jpg

Pictured below is one of the rear spacers. The holes had to be slightly offset to compensate for the angle in which the subframe mounted is on.
https://i.imgur.com/Gtgivfoh.jpg

One of the problems with lowering the subframe is that your steering linkage must be lengenthened. Got a spare linkage from the u-pull and gave it the slice and dice.
https://i.imgur.com/zao7ZWyh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iuvRT7Nh.jpg
The welded shaft was strong enough to dry steer the car down the driveway and around the corner but I'm gonna remove it and reinforce it. No point in taking chances here.

Another thing to mention is when the steering shaft is extended, it changes the angle it sits on. Clearancing of the body must be done for the u-joint of the shaft to clear the body.

Also, the steering shaft boot will no longer fit after being lengthened. Gonna have to figure that out still. Probably a larger boot from another vehicle.

So far, the clearancing of the body around the steering shaft and the bit of metal that must be removed from the bottom of the struts are the only things that may not make this kit "bolt-in" in some people's eyes

[Maritime]

Signing up, the reasons you mention are all the same reasons I am doing mine. Looking forward to see how yours turns out too.

Cheers

Maritime

[Maritime]

how tall are those BTW, looks like about 4" at least.

[myfirstyota]

The body is 4" is diameter and I'm aiming for 3" to 3.5" tall body after the angles are cut. Once the flanges are added top and bottom, it should stand 3.5-4" total. I didn't abandon the project. Due so some unfortunate and fortunate circumstances, it's just on the back burner. Currently working out of town.

[Maritime]

Kool. No worries, life happens. Look forward to seeing it when you get time to finish.

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[Tskm2]

Post picture of cv joint when install! I have in same idea of lifting my 06. If you made spare parts or other give me new!

[myfirstyota]

That's my only concern. The drivers side cv axle angle. We'll see how that plays out when I finish cutting the pieces for the front lift.

But sorry, no extra parts! Everything has to be made custom so I've only bought and cut what I need. But who knows, one day if I move away from the yaris platform, the kit may be for sale.

The weather is supposed to be warming up later this week and next so I imagine ill be able to get my drill press assembled and start drilling and cutting the pieces. Stay tuned!

[Maritime]

That's my only concern. The passenger cv axle angle. We'll see how that plays out when I finish cutting the pieces for the front lift.

But sorry, no extra parts! Everything has to be made custom so I've only bought and cut what I need. But who knows, one day if I move away from the yaris platform, the kit may be for sale.

The weather is supposed to be warming up later this week and next so I imagine ill be able to get my drill press assembled and start drilling and cutting the pieces. Stay tuned!

Nice, yeah You may need a longer axle shaft but you can likely get an axle rebuilt with a longer shaft pretty cheap if there is a problem. I am hoping to get at mine this weekend as well. Bathroom reno is done and it's going to be warm enough to work with bare hands by sat afternoon.

[myfirstyota]

Yep. Someone needs to stab old man winter in the face lol. I'm done!

I'm relying on the fact CTScott didn't have to extend any axles with his 4" front lift. I'm most worried about the angle of the shaft. I have a spare set from the swapped car. I will be carrying one on board with all tools needed (which isn't much suprisingly) to swap out in the event of a failure for the first few thousand km.

[Tskm2]

After a quick check. To put 4in in back pretty sure you need to move axle backside to recenter wheel in wheel well/arch. Like most 4wd rear independent suspension

[myfirstyota]

I have scion xD springs in the car now. The oversize wheels I'm running now have less clearance to the rear bumper than they do to the front of the wheel well (body side). I actually had to remove the factory mud flaps to get the tires to fit, that's how close the tire is to the rear bumper. Im hoping that when the axle is pushed down, this will create more even spacing between the front and rear of the wheel arch. If not, I'd rather "make room" for the tires over relocating the rear axle. I think there's less chance of anything going wrong with axle alignment that way. Plus the car has over 300k on it and isnt "mint" by any stretch of the imagination lol. I have no qualms about cutting it up! Lol

[Maritime]

I have scion xD springs in the car now. The oversize wheels I'm running now have less clearance to the rear bumper than they do to the front of the wheel well (body side). I actually had to remove the factory mud flaps to get the tires to fit, that's how close the tire is to the rear bumper. Im hoping that when the axle is pushed down, this will create more even spacing between the front and rear of the wheel arch. If not, I'd rather "make room" for the tires over relocating the rear axle. I think there's less chance of anything going wrong with axle alignment that way. Plus the car has over 300k on it and isnt "mint" by any stretch of the imagination lol. I have no qualms about cutting it up! Lol

I noticed this as well when playing around with the jacks and measuring clearances, the rear wheels sit more to the back of the well on the rear and when you lift they gain clearance and center more in the arch. I'm hoping to get my lifts in this weekend and test drive. If that goes well I am going to cover an existing wheel with stuff to make it the size of the new tires and check for clearance and compress suspension and steering etc. I also have no issues cutting some parts to make room. 360K and counting on the car.

looking forward to watching your progress.

Cheers,

Maritime

[Tskm2]

Post picture when install!

[myfirstyota]

For sure!

[myfirstyota]

Ok so I got a little cutting/drilling/welding done yesterday. I would have done more but I ran out of flux core wire for the MIG. Picked up some more last night though. It much warmer today although bit soggy. Gonna see if I can free up some space in the garage, do a lil more cutting n welding and possibly test fit one of the rear spacers. Pics to hopefully come later today....

[myfirstyota]

So I went out to the garage to free up some space and of course... it decides to flood. So...Off to get some hardware for the bolt in part. Got some new contact tips for the MIG welder too. When I can get this done, it will be done.

[myfirstyota]

Bump for new pics and progress

[WeeYari]

Bump for new pics and progressWhere?

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[myfirstyota]

At the top. Post #2. The pics of the spacer with spring perch on top are new. So are the pics of the whole assembly sitting in the rear spring perch. Just need to finalize the welds and drill 4 holes and the driver side spacer is complete. Gonna attack the passenger side tomorrow but doubt I'll get it finished. Places to be around 2pm.

[Tskm2]

Nice building parts. Did you try placing coil in its place?

[myfirstyota]

I only have access to the xd springs that are in the car now at the moment. No spring compressor needed to fit the xd coil in! And from what I remember, there was no height difference between the xd and yaris coil springs. Just that the material used to make the spring was thicker.

[Maritime]

those look slick. should work awesome. the XD is heavier so makes sense the coils would be thicker and you'd have less sag and why they give the lift at the same length as the stock springs. I assume you are going back to the stock Yaris springs to soften the ride? Looks great though. excited to see more.

[myfirstyota]

I'm not sure if I'm gonna go back to the stock yaris springs in the rear. The xd springs are a bit harsher but that translates to decent cornering :) gonna have to experiment. For sure gonna put the oem yaris springs in the front though. I don't want over lift it up front and stress the cv joints.

[Maritime]

Cool. Looking forward to seeing it. I just drove An hour ar 120-130 kph and roof rack wasnt that bad. Must have put it just right LOL.

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[myfirstyota]

Hopefully I'll get a chance this week to cut the other spacer and get everything welded up. Possibly drill all holes in the flanges this weekend and install with the xd springs just to see how it looks. Updates coming soon!

[Tskm2]

If you have stock spring in hand take measure of inside diameter top and bottom. I check after with jeep shop if something fit

[myfirstyota]

In the 5th paragraph of the first post, you'll see the reason outlined as to why I didn't want to mess around with searching for spring and shock combinations that fit. The whole reason I'm building the spacers it to avoid all of that.

[YarMatey]

Definitely interested in seeing how this thread moves on!
I live in Calgary so the added ground clearance is something I’ve been toying with for a while now too. I’m familiar with Crashy and the Overland Yaris, however I found these pictures online which you guys might enjoy. Not entirely sure how he got the lift he did, I can’t find any info on this Yaris at all. I can see that he trimmed fenders and in turn removed the fender liners but from what I can see the suspension doesn’t appear aftermarket?

[myfirstyota]

That's what I'm talking about! Appears he has taller springs in the rear. Although this is just speculation...

[YarMatey]

Yeah I’ve dug and dug and dug online to try to find info on that car somewhere but to no avail. Found one of the pics on Instagram but the person who posted wasn’t the owner sadly.
I’m guessing he’s got such an offset on the wheels to avoid any up front rubbing when turning?
It’s inspiring to see others getting funky with their Yaris as it means it’s definitely attainable!

Also, I noticed in your engine swap thread you were looking to add cruise control? Well CTScott did an awesome DIY write up with PDF instructions and all the part numbers you’d need depending on your year/style of Yaris. Should be pretty each to find through the search I think.

[Tskm2]

I read somewhere..on subculture maybe he's on stock suspension but he plan to custom made longer spring both front and rear.

Its sure any real suspension truck shop have a big book with all spec to find same spring rate but longer. In BC they have 2shop they made custom spring but the price...

Just need to find longer shock assembly and fit them like mazda3 owner put cx5 strut to lift 2-3inch

[myfirstyota]

I read somewhere..on subculture maybe he's on stock suspension but he plan to custom made longer spring both front and rear.

Its sure any real suspension truck shop have a big book with all spec to find same spring rate but longer. In BC they have 2shop they made custom spring but the price...

Just need to find longer shock assembly and fit them like mazda3 owner put cx5 strut to lift 2-3inch

When you find one that bolts in, let us know:thumbsup:

[myfirstyota]

Also, I noticed in your engine swap thread you were looking to add cruise control? Well CTScott did an awesome DIY write up with PDF instructions and all the part numbers you’d need depending on your year/style of Yaris. Should be pretty each to find through the search I think.

Yep. I've done it to 2 cars now. Love my cruise. I'm wondering if it's still a plug n play affair for the 2zr swapped car. I imagine it would be.... but can't confirm

[YarMatey]

Yep. I've done it to 2 cars now. Love my cruise. I'm wondering if it's still a plug n play affair for the 2zr swapped car. I imagine it would be.... but can't confirm

An gotcha gotcha, makes sense. That’s one mod that I just haven’t gotten around to yet but hope to possibly sometime this summer! The cruise that is, not the engine swap haha. The xD’s seem pretty rare here so finding one to steal any goodies off of proves challenging.

[Maritime]

It doesn't look like the Black Yaris is lifted much at all. It looks like he put spacers Wheels for offset and trimmed the fenders and that's it. If so I'll be fine doing what I am to mine as I'm not going that big on the tires. It's really neat looking though.

[Tskm2]

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2017/05/subcompact-showcase-toyota-yaris.html?m=1

[Tskm2]

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2017/05/subcompact-showcase-toyota-yaris.html?m=1

1.5in lift

[Maritime]

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2017/05/subcompact-showcase-toyota-yaris.html?m=1

1.5in lift
That's not the same car. that's the overlander. We all know that one already and the 1.5 lift is what I am doing after reading that article. The other one Yarmaty posted has Cali plates and different wheels and appears to have little to no lift on it.

[YarMatey]

I was thinking of doing a front suspension lift similar to what CTScott did with Crashy, just maybe utilizing plates with three holes in them so it’s not quite 4”. Then maybe just some slightly bigger springs in the rear, maybe from an xD to level it out.

Maritime, your don’t think the Cali Yaris has any lift on it all all? You think it’s all tire lift and he just trimmed fenders?

[Maritime]

When I look at the rear axle it looks like its in the same place as stock. He has major offset and trimmed arches so tire lift is all of the height at least to me.

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[Tskm2]

The second picture rear coil look bit to compressed maybe from the top spring...1.5in give the chance to put tire 3in diameter bigger and keep stock wheelgap at 27in tire that pretty nice

[YarMatey]

Yeah it’s very possible that it’s all tire lift I guess. I’m wondering if a guy could get away with less drastic of a wheel offset, without lift, and without rubbing issues up front.

Myfirstyota, do you by chance have any pictures of the front end lift plates that you fabricated up?

[myfirstyota]

I actually just cut them today. I have yet to drill the 16 holes in the 4, 1/4" thick plates its gonna take to make these work. And there's still another 6 spacer plates with 2 holes each that need to be fabricated. However the spacer plates will be thinner metal so should be easier to drill.

I plan on fabricating the other rear spring spacer this weekend. If all goes well there, we could have a rear lift in by Sunday

[myfirstyota]

I think the rear axle on the black California yaris pictured looks pushed down. If you look at the center of the wheel in comparison to the bottom of the body, it looks in line. Mine kinda sits above the bottom of the car, and I have way stiffer xd springs in mine.

Can anyone with stock springs with a hatchback chime in? Where does the center of your rear hub sit in relation to the bottom of the car?

[myfirstyota]

I was thinking of doing a front suspension lift similar to what CTScott did with Crashy, just maybe utilizing plates with three holes in them so it’s not quite 4”

I also thought of this, but didn't want to regret not going high enough!! Hahah I'm aiming for 3&3/4" in the front with the 4 hole setup. I think that, plus whatever I can fit in tires, will make this car a monster. It already climbs snowbanks like an atv.

[YarMatey]

I have a 5dr hatch on stock springs and the rear hub is in line with the bottom of the rear bumper and maybe a couple inches above the bottom of the car body (between the front and rear wheels).

I mean I suppose I could always make a four hole set and if it’s too high just cut some off the end of each bracket and end up with a three hole set. Did you get a noticeable lift in the rear with just the xD springs prior to fabricating your spring mount towers?

[YarMatey]

Also, came across this on Instagram too. Guys brother made a killer custom roof rack for his Yaris and lifted it with what he said were 4Runner coils in the rear and strut mount extenders. Makes me wonder if just throwing some 4Runner springs back there is what he’s talking about?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190321/162313a8bb42ceec3c16250daffbab74.jpg

[myfirstyota]

The lift on xd springs was noticible. When I lowered the car back onto the wheels it barely squatted. I'd say about an inch of lift. Although I went from lowering springs to the xd springs so I can't give an exact amount of lift.

[myfirstyota]

Also, came across this on Instagram too. Guys brother made a killer custom roof rack for his Yaris and lifted it with what he said were 4Runner coils in the rear and strut mount extenders.

I can't help but think that would ride quite rough..

[Maritime]

Yeah, 4 runners weigh a shit ton more than a yaris. Spring rate must be 4X or more. It would be like having no springs at all.

[YarMatey]

Yeah very fair points. I guess maybe a cruise to the junkyard with a tape measure or calipers might be in order to find some similar OD ones.

Definitely stoked to see some pictures of your Yaris Myfirstyota once you get all your fab work done and installed!!

[myfirstyota]

Still aiming for the rears to be complete this weekend! Pics soon!

[Maritime]

Yay, good luck. I also hope to get my whole lift in. I have to start with the rears and check fitment of the unbranded lifts I bought off amazon. May need to mod those, if they need modding, it won't get done, if they fit. I'll have her all lifted this weekend. I only have about a 2-3 hour window of time and being my DD I need to get it all done in that time or wait.

[myfirstyota]

http://i.imgur.com/Aa0wU5g.jpg
New pics on first page!

[Tskm2]

Hahaha awesome. That look perfect with that tire size.
Did you cut the front only for stock heigh whit this tire?

[myfirstyota]

I cut the front bumper cause of body damage originally.. I hit a hiway caution barrel that was overturned with its base toward traffic somewhere between Kingston and the 416 to Ottawa. There were no reflectors to be seen. I cut the fractured section of the front bumper off and cut the other side to match, knowing it would add to my off road look. I will mention agan I'm running scion xD front fender liners. They "kinda" fit but are a bit more roomy than the yaris ones.

I'm expecting major trimming for the larger tires.
Also, I'd like to run some pretty wide spacers or very offset wheels. And probably fender flares to keep the cops at bay :)

Also it seems there may be some leverage factor to my lift as it looks taller than I thought it would. The spring is located close to the fulcrum of the axle, being the mounting points. The wheel being further down the arm may generate more lift at the end?

Anyone with a 3 or 4 door hatch on stock springs wanna measure from ground to the jack points for me? At no point was i under 12" to mine!

[myfirstyota]

150 successful km so far. Hiway speeds of 120+km/h. Drives fine though I'd be weary of high speed lane changes for emergency purposes. Its not short anymore. Hoping the front lift and spacer or rim offset corrects it a bit.
http://i.imgur.com/EtGqJqW.jpg

[YarMatey]

That’s a hefty lift going on there! Some trimming and bigger tires will look awesome on it.
My 4 door hatch measures at 8” ground to jack point at the rear pinch weld and 7.5” ground to jack point at the front pinch weld. Stock springs, 185/65r15 tires.

[myfirstyota]

I believe the stock 14" tire size is on the left. 175/65/14.
On the right is my hopeful tire size. 215/75/15.
http://i.imgur.com/bBrjB0l.jpg

[YarMatey]

Yeah and stock for 15’s is 185/60r15, I’m running a bit of an oversized tire since I got a smokin’ deal on some blizzaks off kijiji.

Have you decided on which tire you’re going to go with? I know a lot of people like the General Grabber AT2s, and I believe they come in a 205/75r15 which is only a 27.1” diameter. I wish BFG still made their super small All Terrain TA KO’s.

[myfirstyota]

So you're riding 3/4" higher than a base model cause your wheels are bigger. Need to subtract that from your Jack point height to get a better height estimation
Pretty sure the k02's come in the 215/75/15 size.

[YarMatey]

Yeah they do, they used to make a 195/75r14 for them though. I believe there’s an off-road/dirt Yaris thread on here somewhere and he has them on his Yaris.

I had the 175/65r14s on before the 185/65r15s and noticed that 3/4” for sure once I put them on.

[myfirstyota]

Yeah they do, they used to make a 195/75r14 for them though. I believe there’s an off-road/dirt Yaris thread on here somewhere and he has them on his Yaris.

Would be good for those not wanting to cut up their car! Lol

[myfirstyota]

Update: Approx. 4-500km on the rear lift. All is quiet and the cars ass is still in the air. The spacers look to be a success!

[Maritime]

Sweet. mine has a bit of a clunk with the lifts I put in and I wonder if my shocks are topping out sometimes. May need to put extenders on those. you built that right into the lifts. It's a bit weird driving with just the ass up isn't it.

[Maritime]

Would be good for those not wanting to cut up their car! Lol

Too bad these don't exist anymore. That's why I'm going with the Grabbers in the 27x8.5R14. Which I may be ordering next week if my re-engineered front lifts work out this weekend.

[myfirstyota]

It's a bit weird driving with just the ass up isn't it.

Yea, it's substantial. I felt the angle of the seats changed drastically when it was done. Gets a ton of looks too lol

[myfirstyota]

Too bad these don't exist anymore. That's why I'm going with the Grabbers in the 27x8.5R14. Which I may be ordering next week if my re-engineered front lifts work out this weekend.

You may need to make substantial clearance for that size. For the 27.7" tires I plan to run, gonna need to cut/bend a good portion of rear fender well out of the way, and I'm much more lifted than you are.

[Maritime]

I expect some trimming and need to pull the fender liners

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[myfirstyota]

We still gotta figure out the fender flare situation lol

[Maritime]

We still gotta figure out the fender flare situation lol


I found some that are flexible in shape. Like a roll you trim off what you need and attach it to the fender and it conforms to the shape. I'll try and find the link. not sure I saved it.

[Maritime]

Did a mock up, I scaled the 2 in the pic until the small was the same as the old tire so this is close to what the new tires will be like!

[Maritime]

These are the flare I was thinking may be good as they follow however you cut.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0794BXHSQ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0794BXHSQ&pd_rd_w=NmYul&pf_rd_p=4b7c8c1c-293f-4b1e-a49a-8787dff31bcb&pd_rd_wg=jPd2e&pf_rd_r=8RVXC4BP78552E21HS5W&pd_rd_r=73e46319-50b9-11e9-9a24-339eef22020c

[myfirstyota]

Did a mock up, I scaled the 2 in the pic until the small was the same as the old tire so this is close to what the new tires will be like!

Oh wow... I hope that's not the case!
I'd be worried about structural damage cutting that much!

[Maritime]

Paint isnt perfect fir sure. I bet it wont be that drastic

[YarMatey]

You guys will be able to get away with much more rear wheel cutting than us four door hatch drivers. We’d have to end up cutting into the doors haha.

I know that in place of all terrains some Subaru guys run chunky winter tires such as the Firestone Winterforces. They have a relatively aggressive look to them and would be available in sizes smaller than the 27” grabbers.

[Maritime]

You guys will be able to get away with much more rear wheel cutting than us four door hatch drivers. We’d have to end up cutting into the doors haha.

I know that in place of all terrains some Subaru guys run chunky winter tires such as the Firestone Winterforces. They have a relatively aggressive look to them and would be available in sizes smaller than the 27” grabbers.

I'm a 4 door LOL. I've owned grabbers and like the low noise but the AT tread, a lot of the beefy winters are noisey as hell and soft so in summer they melt off the car.

[06YarisRS]

Did a mock up, I scaled the 2 in the pic until the small was the same as the old tire so this is close to what the new tires will be like!

What a beast, she'll be! Pumped to see the final effect. :thumbsup:

[myfirstyota]

Still lots of steel to grind out on the front lift. It'll happen soon lol

[Tskm2]

Update?

[myfirstyota]

The rear spacers are holding beautifully. Probably 7-9000 km and everything seems great.

Im about half way done the front. I had to buy an electric die grinder. I settled on a rotozip. Was about half the price of an electric die grinder with variable speed. Its basically a dremel but 4 times the size and power. Hopefully can handle the job unlike the mastercraft rotory tool. Im hoping in the next 2 weeks ill be ready to install the front lift. Ive been working out of town and thats been slowing progress down.

[justjesus]

Anyone with a 3 or 4 door hatch on stock springs wanna measure from ground to the jack points for me? At no point was i under 12" to mine!


My 4 door hatch measures at 8” ground to jack point at the rear pinch weld and 7.5” ground to jack point at the front pinch weld. Stock springs, 185/65r15 tires.

Stock springs all around, with the Firestone airbag helpers in the rear. Tires are 195/75-14s.

ground to pinch weld. Front: 8.25" and rear: 8.75"

Yeah they do, they used to make a 195/75r14 for them though. I believe there’s an off-road/dirt Yaris thread on here somewhere and he has them on his Yaris.

Yes. I still have them on the Yaris. If shipping and import fees weren't so crazy to get them to Canada, I'd sell 'em to one of you guys.

If I were to stay with a 25" or so tire, I'd look into rally tires. Still haven't found a "regular" all terrain type tire. Then again, do an eBay search for all terrain 195/75-r14, and you'll see some pop up.

I'd personally stay with 14" wheels in order to keep the weight down a bit. Maxxis Tires have both a mud terrain (Buckshot Mudder) and all terrain (Bighorn MT-762) at a 27x8.5-14 size. Though the specs list them at 26.6" and 26.3", respectively.

[justjesus]

Stock springs. Tokico reds. BFG All Terrains. 0195/75-14

Just to give you guys an idea to the clearance around the tire

https://i.ibb.co/g4DRj5V/20190426-094313.jpg (https://ibb.co/GHV5xKT)

[Maritime]

Stock springs. Tokico reds. BFG All Terrains. 0195/75-14

Just to give you guys an idea to the clearance around the tire

https://i.ibb.co/g4DRj5V/20190426-094313.jpg (https://ibb.co/GHV5xKT)Hey, how much to ship to 04730 ME? Id be interested.

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[myfirstyota]

Updates! Post #2

[Maritime]

Those look good. I thought about something like that but didn't need that much height so went from the top. May re-think it after I see yours installed.

[myfirstyota]

Thanks! I'm not a machinist by any means. And it isn't easy to drill large holes in 1/4" flat stock perfectly spaced and aligned without a large drill press. I ended up drilling smaller holes and ground them out with a carbide burr on a rotozip. All in all, there was 4 lift plates (long ones on the ends), 12 spacer plates to make, and 40 holes to drill and grind out. I'll report back when it's all installed. Honestly not sure when that is. Back out of town tomorrow for work.

[Maritime]

Understood. I make do like that too. We look forward to the progress however slow it has to be. Im no better. My other crap keeps breaking down and taking my shop time.

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[myfirstyota]

My other crap keeps breaking down and taking my shop time.

Amen!

[justjesus]

Hey, how much to ship to 04730 ME? Id be interested.

Got two quotes. Not looking good.

First one was $83.49 each (about 334 for 4)
Second one was $354 total for 4.

I do have a 5th tire, new as well, so that's additional shipping charge :frown:

Yes, that was just the tires. The weight of the wheels was not included in those quotes! And those are just the shipping costs. :eyebulge:

At this time, it might be better/ cost effective to get some new tires. Maybe those 27s and make them work with a small lift.

[Maritime]

Thanks for looking, yep I can get the 4 27's for 600 installed and balanced so no savings on yours. Too bad I like the bfgs a little better than the grabbers.

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[justjesus]

That's pretty good price.

These are the prior gen KO2s (or KOs?). I have the Grabbers on my Jeep and they look very similar. Biggest difference is on the side knobs.

I'm liking both okay, but would prefer the newer tires with the beefier sides :)

[Maritime]

Yep. I ran grabbers on an XTrail and liked them enough but found the bfgs a little better on the toyota I had those on

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[justjesus]

Yep. I ran grabbers on an XTrail and liked them enough but found the bfgs a little better on the toyota I had those on

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Good to know! Thanks

[myfirstyota]

Update. Ill be pulling the rear spacers out hopefully this weekend. To clean them up, Inspect, paint and rustproof.
Also some more eye candy in post 2

[Tskm2]

Awesome work. Thats fit perfect!

[Thirty-Nine]

This is awesome. That is all.

[YarMatey]

Looks like you’re definitely taking the time to do some quality work with the modifications! Can’t wait to see picture of the Yaris all lifted up and rolling!
I’ve searched high and low for used xD suspension for a bit of lift with no luck, stealership wants ~$900cad for strut assemblies and shocks unfortunately.

[myfirstyota]

Looks like you’re definitely taking the time to do some quality work with the modifications! Can’t wait to see picture of the Yaris all lifted up and rolling!
I’ve searched high and low for used xD suspension for a bit of lift with no luck, stealership wants ~$900cad for strut assemblies and shocks unfortunately.

Try a fully assembled Munroe unit from partsource or something. May be cheaper. It's a good option for the front. I never looked into it personally. But worth a shot. And you'll get new shocks that way too.

[YarMatey]

Yeah I looked into those briefly, I can’t find anyone that sells the springs for the rear aside from Toyota/Scion.

[Maritime]

YarMatey, I got a full set of shocks and struts from Rockauto.com KYB which is the best aftermarket as they make the OEM Toyota. I didn't look to see if they had the XD but they are hands down the cheapest you'll find them.

[YarMatey]

Maritime, I do recall looking on rockauto but they only had Monroe and they weren’t much cheaper than the OEM ones. But I think I’ll have to order some from somewhere as the xDs aren’t popular where I live at all.

[Maritime]

You're right. Monroe only and 258 CAD thats crazy. They have 4 brands for the yaris. My kyb were like 150 CAD.

[YarMatey]

Yeah I was surprised there weren’t cheaper versions offered for the xD either, maybe it has something to do with them only being a US model from 08-10? Who knows haha.

[myfirstyota]

Maritime, I do recall looking on rockauto but they only had Monroe and they weren’t much cheaper than the OEM ones. But I think I’ll have to order some from somewhere as the xDs aren’t popular where I live at all.

I don't think the xd was popular in Canada at all, no matter where you live lol

[Leegamer]

I don't know if it was popular in the US, either. I rarely ever see them on the road. I see tons of yarises and XAs, though.

[YarMatey]

Yeah I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in person here aha. I wonder if a cheap set of coilovers set at their highest setting would provide any lift at all...?

[Tskm2]

Final installation?

[myfirstyota]

Nope. I'm still not allowed at my apartment. Long story.
This is killing me. I have the other yaris id like to finish before the summer is ovre too but ya know... canadian law is bullshit. Stand up for yourself and get arrested right?

[Tskm2]

Thats bad. Law for what?

[myfirstyota]

I should have updates in the next month for both cars. We'll leave it at that.

[Leegamer]

Whatever happened sounds like a bummer

[myfirstyota]

Lee, you have no idea. Summer is half over and I haven't even been able to wrench for a single minute. It's KILLING me.

[Maritime]

Shit deal. Good luck. I cant scrounge the funds for my tires or Id be rocki g a finished ride.

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[myfirstyota]

Ok so it appears I'll be back to wrenching the week of Aug 5th.

Guarantee I will be spending every waking available minute putting these cars together that week.

Lots of updates coming soon for both lifted and lowered cars!!!

[myfirstyota]

Updates soon!!
I should have the full lift kit installed in a few weeks max.
Just need to finish up the red car first. But as soon as that's done I'll have the time and space to focus on the winter car.
Check back soon!

[samuelyaris]

加油~期待新的消息

[myfirstyota]

So I encountered a snag. I went to install the front lift plates last weekend and quickly realized the passenger side driveshaft hits the subframe when pushed down too far. I've thought of a solution that involves lowering the subframe by about 2.5 inches. The lower trans mount will have to be custom made, the subframe spacers will have to be custom made, the sway bar links will need to be lengthened and a custom longer steering shaft will need to be fabricated. I'm picking up the materials for the subframe spacers tomorrow and gonna try to get them welded up this weekend. I'm still aiming for a bolt in lift kit. Although now it will involve many more parts.

[YarMatey]

Thumbs up for determination and ingenuity! Hope the additional fab goes well. [emoji1303]

[Leegamer]

Does this mean you'll lose 2.5 inches of ground clearance?

[myfirstyota]

Kinda yes kinda no.

The spring perches in the rear stick down pretty far after the angle of the rear axle was pushed down.

I believe the exhaust is the lowest part under the body of the car.

True ground clearance is measured to the lowest part of a vehicle. Usually the differential in say, a 4x4 truck.

So yes, the front of the car will loose 2.5" ground clearance. But, the front subframe won't be as low as the rear spring perches, and only an inch and a half or so lower than the exhaust.

Even truck lift kits lower the front end ground clearance by adding a cross member that loweres the front control arms (IFS setup. All half ton trucks made in the last 10+years)

Either way, with the 2+" of clearance gained with larger tires and the 3.75 inches gained with the lift, minus the 2.5" by lowering the subframe. It should still be 3.5-4" higher than the stock clearance.

Plus the ball joints won't be as stressed.

It's still gonna look cool as f*ck hahah

[Tskm2]

Damm that really more work!! Do the same as alot of people in vw community and cut a half moon piece of steel/ notch just over the axle to clear the frame. That done alot of time in old vw mk1 to mk4

[myfirstyota]

So, another update:

I picked up the metal to fabricate the sub frame spacers. The subframe attaches to the car in 6 spots. But unfortunately I only got enough to make the front 2 and middle 2 spacers, thinking I was gonna have to use something else for the rear 2. Turns out, I can use the same 2.5" square tubing to make the rear 2 spacers, but they just need to be a little longer.

So with the front 2 spacers cut, drilled and mocked up in place, and a jack under the back of the subframe jacked to the right height, I can now see where the subframe will sit. Problem here is the driver side cv shaft us just damn short. The shaft was pulled out from the trans side cup :(

Either gonna have to find a longer drive shaft or lower the engine.

Pros and cons

Longer driveshaft
Pro:
•probably can find one from another year/model pretty easily. Easily replaced if oem size is found

Con:
•doesn't change the angle of the cv shaft which will be significantly more than stock with the 3.75" of lift creating more wear on the joints
•may not find a suitable substitute/necessary custom shafts

Lowering engine/trans
Pro:
•restore or partally restore factory cv shaft angles
•direct replacement cv shafts
•lower center of gravity

Con:
•hoses, lines, wires, exhaust, shifter cables all must be kept in mind or extended where needed
•some sort of custom spacers between the engine/trans and it's mounts.
•will need quite a few specific metric bolts

I'm also having a bit of an issue finding the 2 metric bolts with the right thread pitches and length to fasten the 2 middle subframe spacers to the body.

When I find a good source for hardware I think lowering the engine is the best choice.

Thoughts?

[myfirstyota]

Teaser
https://i.imgur.com/97iuQrO.jpg
Holding itself up :)

https://i.imgur.com/EpiDrW5h.jpg

[TiedBassDrummer]

That looks awesome!

[Leegamer]

My pants feel a little tight all of a sudden

[myfirstyota]

Updates and pics on first page!

[myfirstyota]

That looks awesome!

Can't wait to get the fenders trimmed and the tires on it!

I was able to trade a buddy of mine a couple sets of rims for his old vw corrado g60 rims. They're 15's with a 35 offset. They're pretty rough but I'm gonna hit them with the wire wheel and paint them up again. I'm not concerned too much with mintyness... this is a winter car

[myfirstyota]

My pants feel a little tight all of a sudden

So did mine when I sat it on it's own feet for the first time! Hahaha

Found this fun pic. Just Xd springs here.
https://i.imgur.com/AOpmc0Yh.jpg

[TiedBassDrummer]

Again, this is awesome. It also makes me glad that I live where I just need winter tires in order to be more then fine.

[06YarisRS]

So did mine when I sat it on it's own feet for the first time! Hahaha

Found this fun pic. Just Xd springs here.
https://i.imgur.com/AOpmc0Yh.jpg

Haha. Tough little unibody.

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/AeVCIz5h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ms3VFNrh.jpg

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/tOmXmCSh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PGRgte5h.jpg

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/e3JnNpgh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HECcabVh.jpg

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/4PrCI5Lh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ldTV2jwh.jpg

[myfirstyota]

Late 90's - early 2000's Ford ranger shifter boot
https://i.imgur.com/mToikUBh.jpg
It's new life is a steering shaft boot
https://i.imgur.com/MCvfHirh.jpg
Looks like this crazy idea just may work.
Trans mount spacer
https://i.imgur.com/joJY6J6h.jpg
Engine mount spacer
https://i.imgur.com/7mqiHrph.jpg
All bolted in
https://i.imgur.com/fhb9RrTh.jpg

Interesting info:
The only thing that needs to be modified with the engine sitting 2.5" lower is the exhaust. It appears all hoses, lines and shifter cables will work. Edit: the rad hoses actually need to be shortened to prevent kinking.

Where'd that oil filter come from?:eyebulge::iono::barf::bonk::cry:

[06YarisRS]

Rulz! Very inventive/clever use of the shift boot. :thumbsup:

[myfirstyota]

My only concern is it's proximity to the exhaust. I'm gonna make up a small metal heat shield and use an existing bolt on the firewall to secure it.

[myfirstyota]

So as I was trying to put the car back together a couple days ago I noticed the driver side ball joint was a bit sloppy. So I ordered a moog lower control arm from rock auto.

Last night I went to install it. I knew the front LCA bolt wasn't gonna be easy. 12 years of salt and rust. Probably never been removed before. As I started working the bolt back and forth with what little pb blaster i could get on it I thought 'really hope this one doesn't snap like the one on the red car's subframe' (I used the xd subframe as the bolts came out somewhat easy, and was in a bit better shape)

After about an hour working the bolt in and out, it was almost completely unthreaded. Then the backing nut broke loose. FAAK!! And of course it's burried within the subframe. There's no access to the backing nut without cutting the subframe.

Now I have to remove the subframe, again, cut the subframe apart to get at the backing nut, cut the bolt out and weld a patch plate back in. So glad I bought the welder at this point or I'd be screwed.

[06YarisRS]

Oh, man. That blows! Sorry to hear. But, nothing catastrophic, just a setback that you have the skill to overcome. This would spell the end - or a massive cash expenditure - for some. I know...not much consolation.

[myfirstyota]

So true. Without the skill and tools I have, it could be a big expenditure. Or a wild goose chase tracking down another subframe...

[myfirstyota]

So this weekend I'm tackling the control arm bolts. I don't think anyone has posted the process of fixing this b.s.

To make life easy (and because I have already had the subframe removed and greased all the fasteners) I just removed it from the car. I also recommend that you remove the rack and sway bar. The sway bar is kinda in your way. And because the tierods are above the sway bar, you can't just swing the sway bar up out of your way.

This is a great time to inspect your sway bar bushings for wear and replace if needed. They are only accessible with the subframe removed.


https://i.imgur.com/As77MF1h.jpg
Cut the frame open with a grinder and a cut off wheel.
Inside you'll find the square nut and the dinky cage that holds it in place.
https://i.imgur.com/B48Oh8Nh.jpg

I ended up cutting the lower control arm off it's mounts to give me room to work. For whatever reason, after removing the square nut, I still couldn't pull the bolt out of the control arm. I tried a punch and a bfh but it wouldn't budge. I tried using the gun in reverse while prying on the bolt with a prybar, still no bueno. I ended up cutting the bolt with a sawzall
https://i.imgur.com/Fgvshzzh.jpg

I used the control arm bolt to keep the nut in place while welding it to the sub frame
https://i.imgur.com/yzq1VQwh.jpg

Welded it up
https://i.imgur.com/vZWcnE8h.jpg

And cut a patch plate. The section of subframe that you cut out has a curvature to clearance the LCA bolt. I massaged some of the remaining metal of the subframe for the patch plate to sit nice and flat for welding.
https://i.imgur.com/HOwtMXNh.jpg

Welded, primed and ready for paint.
https://i.imgur.com/IvOrcOjh.jpg
With the inside nut welded in place, and lots of grease and oil spray (rust proofing) this should never be a problem again.

[myfirstyota]

Got the "new" feet all cleaned up
https://i.imgur.com/NXUaYRNh.jpg

[eTiMaGo]

Another thread I just discovered, which is making me think about lifting my own car too :biggrin: Following!

[WeeYari]

Another thread I just discovered, which is making me think about lifting my own car too :biggrin: Following!

Remember the old days when responses were something like;

"Nice ride. Now...
- drop it!
- slam it!
- take care of that wheel gap!
- get rid of the 4x4 look!"

Changing times indeed. Just like the old quest for 18+ inch wheels.

[myfirstyota]

Pretty sure I seen a lifted scion frs tonight. It definitely had larger tires on it. Also, my buddy showed me a video on YouTube of a mk4 jetta that the owner lifted and added 215/75/15 tires. Same size I'm going for.

[eTiMaGo]

Remember the old days when responses were something like;

"Nice ride. Now...
- drop it!
- slam it!
- take care of that wheel gap!
- get rid of the 4x4 look!"

Changing times indeed. Just like the old quest for 18+ inch wheels.

I actually blame that one fast and Furious movie where they ruggedized the Charger, WRX, etc...

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/arVs2mkh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NX69N3Ph.jpg

[06YarisRS]

I know it's still hanging, but can't wait to see side shots when she hits the ground. So cool! :thumbsup:

[myfirstyota]

Only reason it's on jacks was so I could take the tires off to make room to work.

It's basically driveable but needs the exhaust realigned to jive with the new engine height and an alignment. Haven't extended the sway bar links yet either. Also need to get the new, bigger tires and make sure they fit. I may still have to make room in the rear. But technically you could bomb around a field with it as is, although I bet it would be loud!

Priced out some bfg ko2's today. May order them tomorrow. But KAL tire says probably 2-3 weeks to get here. Coming from B.C. they said.

Im taking this time to rewire some of my accessories. As things were added, it got messy. I'm hoping to have the car ready for the exhaust shop and alignment by halloween

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/Y7NeRlNh.jpg

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/vKsYt6ph.jpg
Does it ever really end?

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/HZoxQYph.jpg Maiden voyage

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/fWYlWolh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rdh3fijh.jpg
The 27.7" tall BFG K02's still aren't in

[Leegamer]

fantastic

[06YarisRS]

YES! It looks AWESOME!!!

[myfirstyota]

Dropped the rims off this evening to kal tire. Should be ready by tomorrow

[06YarisRS]

What are the dimensions on the K02's? I get that they are 27.7" tall, but are the tires spec'd in the typical xxx/xxRxx size? I'm pumped to see this beast with the A/T tires on it. :clap:

EDIT: Ignore my question. I just read a bit farther up in the thread. 215/75R15. Maaaaan, that is going to look insane.

Here is a comparison between what I currently have on my turbo Yaris and what you'll have:

https://i.imgur.com/xZphv31.jpg

Isn't the rim only 5" wide? Or maybe you got wider rims. I will have to go back and read your entire thread.

[myfirstyota]

The rims that they are going on are VW corrado g60 steelies. I believe they're a 15x6 or 6.5. I'll have to verify when I pick them up tomorrow

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/pyB89MRh.jpg

[eTiMaGo]

oh yeaaaaaaaah

[06YarisRS]

The suspense is killing me....Hurry up!!!
Lol

[myfirstyota]

I think a lot of people (myself included) have been waiting for this moment....drum roll please!



https://i.imgur.com/F0ALd0dh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RGu35Glh.jpg

The truck is also lifted 4" :)

[WeeYari]

In the words of Tag Team...Whoomp! (there it is)
That is f'n insane.

[myfirstyota]

I take that as a compliment WeeYari!
The pics dont do it justice. It looks bigger/taller in person!

[06YarisRS]

Well, that didn't disappoint. It looks stellar. How about a ground level shot just back far enough to get the whole side view in frame?

[myfirstyota]

Well, that didn't disappoint. It looks stellar. How about a ground level shot just back far enough to get the whole side view in frame?

I'll get it cleaned up a bit and take a few more pics in the next few days for sure.

I've put a few km on it today and it actually rides really good. Stock yaris struts up front and stock yaris shocks with xD springs in the rear.

As for power... well in the city it's not bad at all. Just wind the gears out another couple hundred rpm. On the highway... be prepared to downshift on long/steep hills. As for getting on the hiway, speed is easiest acquired in 3rd. I basically leave it in third all the way down the ramp.

It doesn't feel any less stable than a stock yaris. With the 2" wheel spacers, offset rims and wider tires in the front, plus hub spacers in the rear its approx. 5" wider track in the front and approx 6" in the rear.

For the first time since I was a kid, I can't wait for snow! :thumbup:

[eTiMaGo]

hahah love it!

[06YarisRS]

As for power... well in the city it's not bad at all. Just wind the gears out another couple hundred rpm. On the highway... be prepared to downshift on long/steep hills. As for getting on the hiway, speed is easiest acquired in 3rd. I basically leave it in third all the way down the ramp.

Time for a 2ZR swap. :laugh:

[myfirstyota]

Already have the harness, engine mount and computer ;)

[Maritime]

Wow, looks great. Mine is on hold until funds come available for the tires. I am lifted but still on the 185/65/14 winter tires.

[Leegamer]

aw man, this is so awesome. 2ZR and a limited slip and this thing would be such a beast.

It's already a beast, though. lol.

[myfirstyota]

aw man, this is so awesome. 2ZR and a limited slip and this thing would be such a beast.

It's already a beast, though. lol.

An lsd would be killer. Just not sure if I'm down for the cost. Pretty sure I seen a shop selling quaife lsd here in the gta. Problem is it was $1600. And that doesn't include installation or replacing whatever parts in the trans that are worn. Just not sure I can justify the price.

[Niki Knuckles]

I need one! :thumbup: Look's awesome! Great to see the fabrication and now this.

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/tz5sQRNh.jpg

[myfirstyota]

I need one! :thumbup: Look's awesome! Great to see the fabrication and now this.

C'mon down!

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/IWw2YArh.jpg
No camera trickery here

[myfirstyota]

388 km to 34.5L
Puts it somewhere in the 8-9 l/100km range.
I'm a bit hard in my driving style so I think there's room for improvement.

Was also thinking 6 speed swap to compliment the 2zr next year.

[06YarisRS]

https://i.imgur.com/IWw2YArh.jpg
No camera trickery here

That thing looks so rugged! Major kudos for completing this amazing transformation. :clap::clap::clap: I think my 2008 Yaris needs this treatment. :laugh:

[06YarisRS]

https://i.imgur.com/tz5sQRNh.jpg

One word: BRILLIANT!

[myfirstyota]

That thing looks so rugged! Major kudos for completing this amazing transformation. :clap::clap::clap: I think my 2008 Yaris needs this treatment. :laugh:

Giver! It's actually not that expensive to do. The whole lift cost well less than $2000 and that includes $900 for tires, $200ish for the 2" kijiji wheel spacers, $260ish for the extended arp wheel studs (OEM lug studs were a bit short for the wheel spacers) and $100 for the exhaust work. The tires were well over half of the cost!

Update: 3500km and not a peep from the suspension!

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/xW8F3AIh.jpg
Any guesses? Lol

[eTiMaGo]

NAWZ??!!??

[myfirstyota]

No sir. Air tank and compressor
https://i.imgur.com/xveWdreh.jpg
I've actually had them installed for a couple years now. Flip a switch and the factory horn opens the 3/4" air valve.

[06YarisRS]

https://i.imgur.com/xW8F3AIh.jpg
Any guesses? Lol

I though maybe you were planning to do an air ride suspension with your new lift.

That will be one LOUD horn. A video is a must...both for the horn and for the 'honkin' suspension. :thumbsup:

[myfirstyota]

As soon as I can get it in some snow I'll take a video. Currently in ottawa for work, way from the car. I'm actually disappointed I'm not able to drive it in this latest blast of winter were getting.

[Leegamer]

Going to be loud!

[Thirty-Nine]

This thing is fantastic!

[myfirstyota]

Update:
5,000km and everything seems good!
I can even turn the wheels lock to lock without rubbing!
Although I believe I may need to trim the front fenders a little more. For instance, when making a right into an elevated driveway with a bit of speed, there's minor rubbing. No biggie, can fix this in 5 min.

The car gets a ton of attention. Everyone wants to roll their window down at red lights and have a chat. Countless pics have been taken while rolling down the hiway. Shortly after I was finished the car a coworker said to me "your car is all over Instagram" which I chuckled at because I dont have Instagram. I even had an elderly woman say "wow!, that's awesome! Good for you!"

Still waiting for some more snow to make a video.

[myfirstyota]

Update:
So I was driving to ottawa from toronto this past sunday morning. There was a storm. It wasn't great driving conditions. I hit a rather large lump in the hiway and when the car settled, it shot violently to the right. Controllable but not too fun. Now I will admit I was using the cruise control in conditions that did not warrant it. I believe a front wheel lost traction and spun excessively. When it regained traction it pulled me to the right.

I will keep an eye on this.

Also earlier that day we had about 2 inches of ice pellets fall. Driving back roads the car was pretty squirly. Now driving in slush is always challenging. I can only imagine the ice pellets mimicked the conditions found while driving in slush. I'm chalking it up to that.

Otherwise in the hard pack snow and fresh snow, I was happy with the stability of the car.

No time to make a video yet. Will do as soon as time allows.

[06YarisRS]

I bet it would tractor right through deep snow. Pumped to see a video. ��

[myfirstyota]

https://i.imgur.com/CVx94xah.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BzxVtPZh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PL4LdOuh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ek8AeNnh.jpg
https://youtu.be/VxWcvTtciQc
https://youtu.be/NS07tSvdVBM

[Leegamer]

I just love every single picture of this car.

[06YarisRS]

+10000000

[eTiMaGo]

I just love every single picture of this car.

+1000000000000

It does need some flares to smooth out the sides, though ;)

[myfirstyota]

It has thin mud flaps to cover the protruding tires. It's not a wide body but they do the job of keeping road spray down.

[Maritime]

This thing is rad as hell. I haven't been getting my emails for the updates! all I need to finish mine is tires but sadly I keep having to spend $ on other things. I need to fix my exhaust now, it's leaking at the manifold - cat flange and rotted to hell. that will kill 3-400 bucks I could have put towards my tires.

[myfirstyota]

Funds are always hardest part of any build, brother.

[Maritime]

Truer words were never spoken LOL. at least I think I have a cheaper fix for the exhaust leak. I can get a split flange to replace the rotten one on the Cat and so should be less than $100 to fix it. New flange, gasket and bolts should do it.

[myfirstyota]

If you were closer I'd sell you my exhaust from my red car.

[Maritime]

Thanks, shipping would make it to expensive but appreciate the offer. I already had to replace the muffler about 2 months ago and that took $ away from the tires. I will get them eventually as the set on it will die, but I can't replace good tires so it will be when $ are there or tires are done.

[logoris]

Saw it on the 115 on New Years Day, looks awesome.

I was surprised to see how stable it was,

[WeeYari]

If you were closer I'd sell you my exhaust from my red car.

How solid is it? I'm in need.

[myfirstyota]

The manifold end is good. The muffler end, not so much.
Comes with o2 sensor cause I cant be bothered to remove it

[myfirstyota]

Saw it on the 115 on New Years Day, looks awesome.

I was surprised to see how stable it was,

It's very stable. It rides like it should and corners, I think, better than stock.

5"wider stance in the front and almost 6" wider in the rear

[WeeYari]

The manifold end is good. The muffler end, not so much.
Damn. Same story with my existing components.

[myfirstyota]

It's still in one piece, it's just the lip that holds the gasket in place. I'm going out to the shed later, I'll check it out and take a pic. You can be the judge

[logoris]

It's very stable. It rides like it should and corners, I think, better than stock.

5"wider stance in the front and almost 6" wider in the rear


i would have thought with the taller tires it would feel not as planted compared to the factory tires. on my rabbit i had a 4" lift on bilstiens, i found the suspension firm but when turning or highway speeds it tended to wander abit due to the higher side wall

[myfirstyota]

It does wander a bit. But as you said, any high profile sidewall will cause that.

[myfirstyota]

Damn. Same story with my existing components.

Sorry buddy. The flange that holds the muffler gasket in place is completely rotted away.

[WeeYari]

Damn again!

[justjesus]

I was smiling almost the entire time I was catching up on the last few pages of this thread

:) big smiling :D

Applause, for you, sir! That looks great!

[myfirstyota]

So, I was wondering...
Is there any general interest in this lift kit?

I was considering putting a few of these kits together for sale.

Things to keep in mind:

- You will be on your own for tire/rim fitment. Because of the design, the oem rim offset will not clear the front lift plates. Rim spacers and/or different rim offset is required.

- You will need to source your own steering shaft boot. There just aren't that many early 2000's ford ranger shift boots in the local scrap yard. (That's what I used)

- I can not guarantee front spacer plate fitment. The kit will be supplied with spacer plates that fit oem struts. If you have aftermarket struts, your own spacer plates may need to be made. Very simple piece of metal cut to size and of the right thickness for your application, with 2 holes drilled for the bottom strut bolts.

- You are on your own for making the exhaust line up with the new engine height.

- The engine and subframe will need to be removed. This isn't a small job and not for the faint of heart.

- I am NOT a certified welder in any way.

- This kit will not be sold as being road worthy or legal in any way. For off road use only.

- There will be no instructions with the kit. However, parts will be labeled and fasteners included. Most of the parts are self explanatory and you can always refer to the build thread for guidance. Plus I can be reached here by PM.

It wont be a $200 kit. It will be closer to the cost of other lift kits as there are some pieces that require custom water jet cuts and some parts that can only be acquired by buying an entire rear axle assembly.

So... anyone interested?

[ACKING_QC]

any chances you're selling this kit but for an 05 Echo ? I have a little project in mind :P

[myfirstyota]

I've had no inquiries so I've shelved the idea. Sorry.

[Tskm2]

Its too much for me i'm looking more for 1.5 to 2in lift to keep my new tire from last summer