Hurray - I got my Yaris

[vasilios]

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[tacsniper]

Congrats... now let the mods begin!

[uncleyaris]

Let the $ pour out, congrats!

[tacsniper]

Well you must save $200 to buy the spring first... must drop that thing!

[Kioshi]

Your beginning experience of a manual pretty much sums it up in comparison to mines....
I've peeled out so many times on an incline/uphill + stalled and put hazard lights on w/ a cop right behind me......such a long day that was.

My best advice to you, for getting use to flat surface when starting off in 1st gear, drive around 11pm or after. Best time, barely any cars and you can stall or whatever w/o getting honked/nervous. And if you happen to see your car rolling back, practice in that same area by making a U-turn and going on it again...so you get the feel for it.

Enjoy your new Yaris. I'm enjoyin mine, been about 2 weeks since I bought it.

[Motorhead6T5]

When I first started driving stick I would plan my routes with no inclined stops just cause I hated starting on hill with sombody behind me LoL how times change. One trick is to pull the ebrake with one hand so you can take your foot off the brake and start to slip the clutch and then let of the ebrake. ,try it, it helps.

[kurokoma-kun]

...I just revved it and let go of the clutch (chirped it a few times)... Yeah I'm a manual noob...

Oh man. I have been driving a stick for more years than I care to admit, yet in this car I chirp it in 1st at least once a day! :redface: But here's the great part... if you want to, you can chirp it in 2nd too... :wink: For me, the torque = fun.

Congrats vasilios!

[Kioshi]

One trick is to pull the ebrake with one hand so you can take your foot off the brake and start to slip the clutch and then let of the ebrake. ,try it, it helps.

That should be used even when morons are tailgating you till the stop light on an incline.
Rule of thumb, 2 stalls = ebrake

[TOOL]

Congratz on the Yaris dude. Manual will take some getting used to but im sure you will grow to love it!

[yrsdrgn]

yup yup congrats on your yaris. I had a Tc and it was manual then it went bellly up. now i have a auto yaris (im not allowed to get a manual anymore. parents wont let me) I wish i had a manual again haha. Have fun and enjoy the little car.

[Edd]

Congrats on the purchase, especially going with manual. :)
Make sure you practise the handbrake hill start on small hills, otherwise when you need it on a big hill, you will VIOLENTLY stall. The handbrake method is the conventional way, but you can transfer from brake to throttle as you let the clutch up for a faster takeoff on small inclines.

[Kioshi]

Just let off the clutch half way before it completely is let go of and at the same time give it gas; have the throttle a bit more down (so have the throttle down and the clutch a bit up, roughly around the same level but off just a little bit), it works. Dont hold it for too long thats all.

This method works for me at stop lights at my 2nd college....if not, roll it back n forth to scare the person beind you and keeping the car moving~

[Edd]

Kioshi, if you are keeping the car still with the clutch and the engine is still running, you will be slipping it tremendously. This is one of the biggest causes of premature clutch wear (along with riding the clutch).
If you are waiting at an uphill stop sign and want to "scare" the person behind you for tailgating or pulling up too close, just have the handbrake up and show them some reverse lights. :biggrin: I personally wouldn't do this, but rolling back and forth burning up the clutch and potentially hitting the car behind is much worse.

[Meteorite Man]

The Meteorite has landed.....Afternoon all. Just picked up my Yaris. '07 HB, Meteorite, 5spd. Sweet lil' thing. I do know one thing I'll be doing first. I HAVE to hook up a tach. Geeeesssssssshhhh Louise, I drive tractor trailer (two trailers actually) by trade (Luv ya FedEx) and I hardly look at the speedo. It's all sound and tach. I know if I'm in such a gear and I'm at say 1500rpm, I know where I am in relation to the road speed.

I can fill up about 3 times to what it would cost to fill up my Chevy Silverado 2500 I just traded and get more distance per tankful.

I got it at Boch Toyota, Rt1 south in Norwood Ma. As painless as it could ever be. I knew what I wanted, I knew they had it and tada....I was out the door in less than 2 hours. You gotta like a place that has it's own deli/diner inside and a big honkin' screen tv in the lounge. The salesdude told me alot of men come and get thier 'yotas serviced on Sunday so they can eat and watch the ball games depending on the seasons. Football season draws quite a crowd.

That's it for now, If anybody knows a nice tach setup and dyi info, It would be greatly appreciated. Maybe one of those A-Pillar set-ups or just a nice simple install next to the center dash hump.

Toodle Loo,

Chuck,
Taunton, Ma.

[Edd]

I'm pretty bad at the moment... I'm scared to death of stalling it (I've done it once on the highway and then got so nervous I kept stalling it trying to go). So now I rev it to god knows what (no tach!) and slowly let the clutch go down until the car starts to move. I'm sure I'm slipping the hell out of it because by the time I fully let go of the clutch I have to shift into second.

Once the car is moving I'm fine... it's the getting to go part that's a bitch. I need to practice some more with the taking off on hills... and I def need to practice the handbrake method as I've never done it.

Here's an easy way to learn (I've only been driving for a few months, so I'm just saying what's helped me):
1) Practise starting just using the clutch, you will learn where the clutch has free play and where it engages. These will be slow launches, so practise somewhere quiet. LISTEN to the revs and how they drop and control it only using the clutch. You'd think this would wear the clutch more because you are slipping it more, but it doesn't as you are not adding as much power (just idle) to the slipping clutch.
2) For a reasonable launch, let the clutch up until you start to move, then progressively add throttle as you release the clutch. (This is known as steady revs, because as the clutch is raised, the revs will drop trying to meet the car's speed [0mph], but you are adding power to compensate).
3) Handbrake starts: Practise #2 on flat ground, but use the handbrake. Just pull on the handbrake, release the footbrake, clutch in and 1st, pull handbrake up and push button, start releasing clutch. You will FEEL the car pull forward, then drop the brake as you continue the launch as normal. As I said, practise this on flat ground because you won't roll back if you stall or let the brake off too early. Don't start learning this too early or you will just keep violently stalling - when I started, as I pulled the handbrake down, I kept dropping the clutch.

[Kioshi]

Kioshi, if you are keeping the car still with the clutch and the engine is still running, you will be slipping it tremendously. This is one of the biggest causes of premature clutch wear (along with riding the clutch).
If you are waiting at an uphill stop sign and want to "scare" the person behind you for tailgating or pulling up too close, just have the handbrake up and show them some reverse lights. :biggrin: I personally wouldn't do this, but rolling back and forth burning up the clutch and potentially hitting the car behind is much worse.

Confused a bit at what your implying Edd.....
So on flat surfaces at a stop light., if i know the green light is going to come up i stick it in first gear and have the clutch fully pressed down all the way. Once it is green i let off little bit from the clutch and at same time i give it gas and let off the clutch slowly to not have any jerks and stuff. Is that correct? Because if I press throttle and let off clutch too fast it jumps and jerks....

Oh I didnt know that. Thanks for the advice. I'll try the reverse lights. Because people here park so close to you at a stop light, making is seem impossible to have the car roll back a little, and then go when it is green light. I hate tailgaters at uphills in California ~

[Edd]

Nevermind, I misinterpreted your other post, I was thinking you meant you were holding yourself on a hill using the clutch.
Yeah, sounds like you have a lot of automatic drivers over there that just pull up as close as possible. We get that a bit here too.

[Kioshi]

Oh I see. No problem, But I'm doing the correct thing on flat surfaces when starting off right? As mentioned above...?

Im scared of premature clutch wear n tear~

[Meteorite Man]

ahhhh.........Kyrdino's, Just before the R/R tracks on 44, haven't been there in a long time.....What would you suggest? I'm pretty hungry and some kind of meat, which just happens to be my favorite vegetable.

Thanks for the hello,

[Edd]

Oh I see. No problem, But I'm doing the correct thing on flat surfaces when starting off right? As mentioned above...?

Im scared of premature clutch wear n tear~
Yep, sounds fine. Holding the clutch down WILL wear out the spring-loaded throwout bearing, however, it should outlast the rest of the clutch and is replaced at the same time, so don't worry. Generally, if the stop is more than 10-20 seconds, go into neutral and possible pull the handbrake so you can relax your feet.

vasilios, you will learn to hook it up faster and not have to rev or slip so much. The Yaris may have short gearing on first, so you may have to short-shift anyway (like you are). (Short shifting is upshifting before usual as you don't need the torque that 1st provides and you will save fuel.)

[Kioshi]

Yep, sounds fine. Holding the clutch down WILL wear out the spring-loaded throwout bearing, however, it should outlast the rest of the clutch and is replaced at the same time, so don't worry. Generally, if the stop is more than 10-20 seconds, go into neutral and possible pull the handbrake so you can relax your feet.

Oh ok. Because when you said clutch wear n tear.....i tried releasing clutch slowly till the car made movement and then gave it gas, but i suffered a huge jerk leading my head to backlash a bit heh.

So i guess its ok when after its green i slowly release clutch and give it gas at same time but not fully releasing clutch so that the car jumps/jerks.....

To vasilios.....you have to change into 2nd gear really fast I've noticed on this car. At about 10mph or less when you hear the rev reaching its peak for 1st gear, shift to 2nd.....its normal~

[Kioshi]

how fast are you letting it go? If you give gas first and let go of the clutch fast it will jerk/jump. I mean you can have the car not stall and go from first gear but you still get the jackrabbit/jumpy/jerky feeling....I'm tryin to perfect the smoothness from starting off.....pretty damn hard~~