GOOD-BYE YARIS, HELLO FIT!

[gid]

no drugs , not same person . DARTHfuhrer . :bow: . :biggrin:

[darthbauer]

no drugs , not same person . DARTHfuhrer . :bow: . :biggrin:


I am German.

[nsmitchell]

Yes, this is true. The Yaris is more of an economy car, the Phit Sport is a lot more sophisticated. You pay more, but you get more.

I wouldn't be more happy with my choice! :biggrin:

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

That is quite an article. I must say it's spot on accurate! Toyota needs to step up their game. The Yaris could be fit like the Fit one day. hehe

[nsmitchell]

"While conventional wisdom says that cheap gas should damp enthusiasm for a compact fuel-sipper, I'm not going to be deterred. The Fit is unquestionably my favorite car, a vehicle that's the best all-around transportation available from any auto maker at any price."

Holy Cow!

[gid]

or lack of the drugs. maybe caveatispe bit him on the ass and he developed a serious case of douchebaggyness ??

To Bobby/gid:

dude one more time this is a Yaris Car forum and not Political Phit driving fanatics who need validation for their puny little lives PUBIC KNOT . That gotta hurt . Maybe that explains your anger . :laughabove:

[gid]

suck it up !!! :smile:

[darthbauer]

Well i think at this point Gid is just trying to piss off someone. Your almost there buddy, go for gold.

[gid]

I am German. explains the gases exuding form your mouth . RANDOM ? I think not :wink: .

[darthbauer]

Are you 14?

[33OH]

Since when did kindergardens give access to internet?

[KCALB SIRAY]

http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/5/53/Lane.Mills.jpg/180px-Lane.Mills.jpg

[darthbauer]

Since when did kindergardens give access to internet?

I think I aimed to high when I said 14.

[gid]

what's good for the goose is good for the gander .

[darthbauer]

but seriously gid , if your are so unhappy with the Yaris why are you on here, cant you see you won't get anywhere with us?

He probably can but in his troll ways will keep trying to piss us off.

[custom Lftback]

yeah, why join YarisWorld if you are going to be a YarisHater?

[gid]

does have its good points , have the right to express its issues . Simple as that . Open forum . Think not . So sad .

[darthbauer]

Sure its an open forum but why talk so much shit?

It's not going to get you anywhere. Express your views and then move on to another topic.

[gid]

it's o.k for you and others to attack members ? Why's that ? I've dealt with your and others :bs: in the past . Where's the MODERATION ? :iono:

[gid]

:laughabove: . No :respekt: . Some people just don't know any better :bonk: . I pity you and your followers . So :frown:

[KCALB SIRAY]

it's o.k for you and others to attack members ? Why's that ? I've dealt with your and others :bs: in the past . Where's the MODERATION ? :iono:
Why do you feel the need to stay. Why do you feel the need to put down a car on a forum where you yourself own one? Two simple questions

[gid]

I'm here to stay . Sorry to disappoint you . :rolleyes:

[Thirty-Nine]

C'mon guys -- just let this be. It'll die on the vine if you don't continue to feed it.

[darthbauer]

C'mon guys -- just let this be. It'll die on the vine if you don't continue to feed it.


It's kinda like Freddy Kruger, just turn your back and it will die and go away.

[gid]

threats ... carry on !

[Yoda]

so lock it? i mean it has already lost all its value as a thread

[PaidTimeOff]

It's kinda like Freddy Kruger, just turn your back and it will die and go away.

One would hope so, but the Fit fanboys keep bumping it up in an attempt to make them feel better than every other Yaris owner who can't afford to buy both a Yaris and a Fit.

[33OH]

One would hope so, but the Fit fanboys keep bumping it up in an attempt to make them feel better than every other Yaris owner who can't afford to buy both a Yaris and a Fit.

Or doesn't want to buy a Fit.

I'm fine with my Yaris and my Accent. :wink:

[gid]

you and your lynch mob . :wink:

[gid]

I see it keeps growing . Ignorance is bliss .

[bobby]

I am German

Ohhh....

Just for the record, I am very happy with my Yaris. I think it is an EXTREMELY reliable car, it's pretty fun to drive, (a lil' too much road noise in the cabin, but whatever) I think it's very cute, and has excellent resale value. I hope to have it for many more years.

However, since I own one of each, I feel it's easier to compare. Getting into the 2009 Phit Sport and driving it you realize it's a step up. It's still an economy car, but if handles the road better, (I'm talking about stock only) it's quieter, it has the Nav system (which I can't live w/o, lol) more air bags, and electronic stability control, along with a 5-speed AT, which makes it quieter on the highway. If the Yaris gets an A-, the Phit is a definate A+

If you feel I'm too biased, I respectfully defer to the Wall Street Journal, ladies & gentleman...
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

[gid]

ok so i got an idea: get rid of your Yaris , sell it , crash it, loose it whatever and go get yourself this supposed marvel that is the Fit. Everyone is happy so you wish for us to crash our YARIS ? I find this very disturbing . FEEL A CHILL IN THE AIR . Must be P.K.s mouth opening , spewing a deep freeze :barf: . :rolleyes: Maybe you should consider changing your USERNAME to PKICE . :wink:

[darthbauer]

I am German

Ohhh....

Just for the record, I am very happy with my Yaris. I think it is an EXTREMELY reliable car, it's pretty fun to drive, (a lil' too much road noise in the cabin, but whatever) I think it's very cute, and has excellent resale value. I hope to have it for many more years.

However, since I own one of each, I feel it's easier to compare. Getting into the 2009 Phit Sport and driving it you realize it's a step up. It's still an economy car, but if handles the road better, (I'm talking about stock only) it's quieter, it has the Nav system (which I can't live w/o, lol) more air bags, and electronic stability control, along with a 5-speed AT, which makes it quieter on the highway. If the Yaris gets an A-, the Phit is a definate A+

If you feel I'm too biased, I respectfully defer to the Wall Street Journal, ladies & gentleman...
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

How much more did your Fit cost than the Yaris though?

[bobby]

Several thousand dollars more...and as I've said on here a number of times, it SHOULD be a better and more substantial automobile; It costs a lot more. (Especially the way I ordered it...I believe I have every option available on the '09 Phit).

[darthbauer]

My yaris out the door was around 14k. I just did a build and price on a Fit and the MSRP is a little over 19k. Some of us got the Yaris because it was and still is much cheaper than the Fit.

Don't get me wrong, I think the new Fits are bad ass little cars.

[nsmitchell]

Yaris = economy = cheap $$
Fit Sport = economy with lots of goodies! = a few grand more $$

Three thousand more financed it $60.00 a month. Some folks may not want to spend the extra $60.00/month.

[darthbauer]

Yaris = economy = cheap $$
Fit Sport = economy with lots of goodies! = a few grand more $$

Three thousand more financed it $60.00 a month. Some folks may not want to spend the extra $60.00/month.


I probably would if I could afford it.

[bobby]

I decided not to finance. I saved the $$ beforehand, and just paid cash. I didn't see the sense in financing. The money I'd pay in interest is money better spent eleswhere. I also keep no balances on my c/c's. I'm not rich, (far from it!) but I just don't spend more than I can afford to pay at the end of the month.

No diss to anybody who can't or won't budget this way, but I've found this system works best for me. :wink:

[darthbauer]

I wish I could save up that kinda cash but it would take a while with all the other bills and food for the family.

[gid]

i dont wish on anyone to crash his or her cars, im just giving you options since you have trouble making choices by yourself. you are evidently so unhappy with your choice of cars that you feel the need to pollute this forum with your nonsense.

if i don't like something i don't buy/use it. pretty simple concept isn't it. so again you don't like the Yaris leave , sell it and go buy a Fit , Aveo or other car. again you hear only what you want. you'd make a great politcian :clap: .

[bobby]

I wish I could save up that kinda cash but it would take a while with all the other bills and food for the family.


And I totally understand that. I'm a single guy, and I'm fortunate to have a little extra disposable income to play with. In many many ways, I am very lucky, and I always try to remind myself of that.

[PaidTimeOff]

its funny how all this started without anyone dissing the Fit, but with some sad person needing to feel superior

The thread started out well enough because it was a strict comparison, not a "This is UNDENIABLY better than that" thread. Then someone decided that subjective opinions are the basis for legitimate reviews/comparisons...

[darthbauer]

Sometimes I miss being single. If I was single and have the job I have now I would have so much extra cash that I would be able to finish my Yaris and have enough money left over to buy enough guns to arm a small army.

[bobby]

Eww, guns don't interest me at all. I do like cars, books, modern/pop art, travelling, fine dining and Broadway though...:wink:

[darthbauer]

Eww, guns don't interest me at all.


Good for you. When shit hits the fan and I need something that you have I will remember that.

[darthbauer]

Guns are tools. It's like being afraid of a hammer.

[gid]

is this THE VIEW from ABC ? With a bit more drama . :biggrin:

[bobby]

Guns are tools. It's like being afraid of a hammer.


Enjoy your guns...I have no interest in them whatsoever. I find them creepy and unnerving, but that's just me of course.

Gotta jet...off to a Quincy Jones interview & book-signing event tonight.

I LOVE NEW YORK...and my Phit Sport!! :wink:

[darthbauer]

I find them creepy and unnerving



How can you find a hunk of metal creepy and unnerving?

[bobby]

How can you find a hunk of metal creepy and unnerving?


:iono: sorry, I do. They are SO not part of my life, and will never be. If you like them, great. As I've said, I have less than zero interest in them. My interests range from the arts, to cars, to running/working out, hopping the globe, politics, books and my 2009 Phit Sport. Guns are not anywhere on my radar.

But I want YOU to enjoy them! :smile:

[darthbauer]

:iono: sorry, I do. They are SO not part of my life, and will never be. If you like them, great. As I've said, I have less than zero interest in them. My interests range from the arts, to cars, to running/working out, hopping the globe, politics, books and my 2009 Phit Sport. Guns are not anywhere on my radar.

But I want YOU to enjoy them! :smile:


I'm not trying to start a fight and that's cool that you want me to enjoy them and I do but I don't see how you can think a gun is creepy? Sure you can hurt someone with a gun but you can hurt someone with a knife and your bare hands too. Are you afraid of them too?

[33OH]

..I think Honda Fits are creepy. Giant hunks of metal.. Ugh. *shivers*

But I want YOU to enjoy it! :wub:

[33OH]

oh and Bobby please don't PM me anymore. kthx.

[Bob_VT]

Bobby why does someone who claims to live in Manhatten..... need two economy cars? Public transportation in NY is great and parking sucks.

[bobby]

The Phit is here in Manhattan with me, the Yaris is in the burbs with my folks. Nobody needs a car in NYC, this is true. The public transportation system here is incredible and very efficient. I have it because I want it. Most people I know in Manhattan don't have or want cars...they rent a car if/when they need one. I have friends/family in DC, in New England, etc, and I use it to visit them. I almost never drive IN the city (no reason to...parking is awful and expensive) but I use it when I want a getaway. Fortunately, in my neighborhood, the parking is fairly easy. I have not had a parking ticket in over a year, no easy feat in NYC. I have the parking situation well under control.

So, the quick answer is that for me it (having a car in the city) is a luxury. I certainly don't need it for work. I can walk or ride my bike to work, or take the subway 3 quick stops to my office. :w00t:

[SIPNGAS]

..I think Honda Fits are creepy. Giant hunks of metal.. Ugh. *shivers*

But I want YOU to enjoy it! :wub:

Oh my...lmao... :thumbup:

[Bob_VT]

The Phit is here in Manhattan with me, the Yaris is in the burbs with my folks. Nobody needs a car in NYC, this is true. The public transportation system here is incredible and very efficient. I have it because I want it. Most people I know in Manhattan don't have or want cars...they rent a car if/when they need one. I have friends/family in DC, in New England, etc, and I use it to visit them. I almost never drive IN the city (no reason to...parking is awful and expensive) but I use it when I want a getaway. Fortunately, in my neighborhood, the parking is fairly easy. I have not had a parking ticket in over a year, no easy feat in NYC. I have the parking situation well under control.

So, the quick answer is that for me it (having a car in the city) is a luxury. I certainly don't need it for work. I can walk or ride my bike to work, or take the subway 3 quick stops to my office. :w00t:

Okay. Yes I do know Manhatten and no parking tickets is not only a feat but a full time job with alternate side..... I was under the impression that you kept both in the city.

LOL 3 stops on a subway is nothing if you are talking local and you should walk...... now 2 on the express is a bit further.

[bobby]

Yes, I only have 3 local stops, so it's very quick.

It's hard enough having ONE car in NYC...I could not have 2 cars in this city. I do have to do the 'alternative-side-of-the-street-parking' dance, but (without boring you with the uninteresting details) I essentially have to move the car 3X a week, (in the evening, sometime between dinner and bedtime) and I'm on it like clockwork. I refuse to waste $65 on a parking ticket. The only time parking can be difficult is when they're filming Law & Order, or some other tv show or movie in my 'hood.

New York City is NOT a car-friendly city, but I could not imagine living anywhere else.

[Jem_hadar]

I wish I could save up that kinda cash but it would take a while with all the other bills and food for the family.

Eating food and feeding your family is for pussies! lol

Starving FTW!

http://www.bobpitch.com/anon/barb_Ethiopian_child_starving.jpg

[nsmitchell]

I'm going on a highway trip today but drove to work first. I noticed that when I drive the Fit in the city I am getting better MPGs that driving the exact same way in the Yaris in the city.

I got over 34MPGs on my way to work this morning and in my Yaris I get around 32MPG on the same daily trip driving the same way I always do. I think all things being equal, focusing on MPGs only, I think that the Fit will out do the Yaris. If you hypermiled a Fit, I think it would also outdo a Yaris being hypermiled.

I think my brother and I need to do a shootout on a long trip. I'll put my brother in my Fit since he weighs more. Fill up at the same gas pump and hit the highway on the way to Charlottesville, then turn around and take local roads on the way back and maybe drive some in the city together. Then fill up and compare actual MPGs.

Does anyone know of a better way to have a good objective comparison without doing any crazy stuff like Mythbusters does?

[stuffy]

you mean that you are going to switch drivers for the return trip, right?
this would be good not just because of weight difference but also driving styles.

sounds like it would be a decent comparison.

[Jem_hadar]

Do it. Very interesting and cool experiment. Looking to hear the results and your thoughts/opinions on it afterwards.

[woof]

I love the new Fit. It is far superior to the Yaris in either form. But, I have owned one Honda and three Toyotas. What does that tell you?

Honda's don't hold up over the long haul, 75K+. How they ever got this "indestructable" reputation is beyond me.

[vios7]

i saw new fit on the road..look a bit bigger than yaris LB.

[Jem_hadar]

i saw new fit on the road..look a bit bigger than yaris LB.

Ya it is. More hatch space. :smile:

[bobby]

I am thrilled to announce that the IIHS has named the 2009 Honda Phit a TOP SAFETY PICK. Seventy-two vehicles earn the Institute's TOP SAFETY PICK award for 2009, and the Phit is the only "mini-car" which has won this prestigious and important accolade.

Sadly, the Yaris fell short, and did not win. For 2010, Toyota should get crackin', and make sure the Yaris makes the grade. It would be better for sales, as well as--obviously, and most importantly--occupant protection.

Way to go Honda!!! :thumbup:

[eTiMaGo]

yeah if Toyota made more airbags standard it would probably have been right in there...

[KCALB SIRAY]

http://www.jeannemarler.com/images/fence-post.jpg
http://www.math.toronto.edu/~drorbn/Gallery/Symmetry/Tilings/2S22/BrickWall.jpg

[33OH]

I think the extra $7,000 in my wallet adds padding that helps keep me safer.

[bobby]

I think the extra $7,000 in my wallet adds padding that helps keep me safer.


That's good. Hope that helps you or a loved one in an accident. For me, I feel much better knowing I'm driving the safest car in its class. I feel that's worth a whole lot more than 7K in my pocket!

By the way, it isn't just the extra air bags which gave the Phit the highest rating. To win the IIHS's TOP SAFETY PICK a car must pass these criteria:

1. GOOD FRONTAL CRASHWORTHINESS, based on performance in a 40mph frontal crash test.

2. GOOD SIDE CRASHWORTHINESS, based on a test in which a vehicle's side is struck by a barrier going 31mph.

3. GOOD REAR CRASHWORTHINESS, based on head restratint geometry and test of seat/head restraint.

4. ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL, by helping drivers maintain control when vehicles otherwise might spin out.

The Phit Sport w/Navi passed these tests with flying colors, and I'm sorry to report that the Yaris failed. Not good, Toyota! :thumbdown:

[earljail]

. For me, I feel much better knowing I'm driving the safest car in its class.


Well, for perspective, just remember what kind of small cars were available 15 years ago or so. I had a 94 Hyundai Excel which was known for pushing the steering column into the driver's neck in a frontal crash. And virtually no small cars had any airbags at all.

So I doubt your multi-airbagged Fit is as giant a leap forward in safety from a plain jane Yaris than any modern small car is from one that's fifteen years old.

[33OH]

You're right. I'm selling the Yaris to buy a tank. Thanks Bobby! :thumbup:

http://www.etanks.ws/images/DSC_8938.jpg

[KCALB SIRAY]

even has JDM side mirrors, lol

[33OH]

Yeah they got a higher safety rating than the USDM ones. So I paid twice as much for them. Pretty sweet huh?

[PaidTimeOff]

There are so many variables in regards to crashes that as long as the crash test rating is more than "acceptable" you'll be doing as much as you can on that front. Crash test rating of .5 a star ahead of another subcompact according to government mandated crash testing isn't going to save you when that 18 wheeler loses control and smashes you into hamburger. It sounds like a great idea to buy a car planning to crash it, but don't let that rating lull you into a false sense of security.

Safety's important, but by no means is a MARGINALLY differing safety rating a deal maker or breaker.

[bobby]

Well, for perspective, just remember what kind of small cars were available 15 years ago or so. I had a 94 Hyundai Excel which was known for pushing the steering column into the driver's neck in a frontal crash. And virtually no small cars had any airbags at all.

So I doubt your multi-airbagged Fit is as giant a leap forward in safety from a plain jane Yaris than any modern small car is from one that's fifteen years old.

Not exactly sure what point you're trying to make, but I wasn't talking about a 15 year old car. I was saying that I made a great choice in choosing the Phit. It's very space efficient, quiet, great stereo, Nav system, looks GREAT, and is the safest car in its class.

I'm very pleased! :biggrin:

[bobby]

The Honda Phit (with optional ESC, which my car has) is the first "mini-car" ever to earn the IIHS's honor of TOP SAFETY PICK!

The Honda Phit truly seems to be the small car all others must be judged against. It is an amazing car! :wink:

[PaidTimeOff]

Watch out guys! The Yaris is not safe!

http://gas2.org/2008/10/21/are-tiny-gas-saving-cars-unsafe-today-mine-saved-my-life/comment-page-3/

[bobby]

Now, that's scientific! :wink:

If you feel that the Yaris is the safest small car on the road, that is great. More power to you.

Me, I feel I made a FANTASTIC choice buying the Phit Sport. I have not read one review (in magazines or online) in which the reviewer feels the Yaris is a better car than the Phit. Also, please note, Consumer Reports does NOT recommend the Yaris. Too unstable at highway speeds. The IIHS also could not recommend the Yaris, and gave it a failing safety grade.

However, if you're happy, I'm happy! :biggrin:

[Bob_VT]

Please lock up this piece of crap thread. This is a Yaris Forum.