Ever tried removing the front swaybar? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

scape · 07-13-2009, 02:38 PM

live and learn I guess :D

Loren · 07-13-2009, 07:56 PM

Aspect ratio is screwy, but here's some video:
http://blip.tv/file/2351613

808_Yaris · 07-13-2009, 08:09 PM

video!

SailDesign · 07-13-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren

Aspect ratio is screwy, but here's some video:
http://blip.tv/file/2351613

scape · 07-13-2009, 09:17 PM

dude, you are a 3-wheeling monster! haha

HTM Yaris · 07-14-2009, 12:59 AM

I've always wanted to try removing the front swaybar . Maybe next Autox. Nice vid

eTiMaGo · 07-14-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808_Yaris

video!

Between the squished video making the car look like one of those comic photoshops, and the drastic 3-wheel action, that video had me laughing hard

But yes, the front wheels sure look well planted!

*tomato* · 10-17-2009, 03:14 AM

Never seen a Yaris on 3 wheels before! Love the video!

advocate · 10-17-2009, 08:47 AM

Looks great Loren! Going to have to get a rear sway bar and then start experimenting. The three-wheel action looks pretty scary but when you think about it the rear wheels on our car don't do anything except prevent us from having to drag our rear behind us.

schleppy · 10-17-2009, 09:27 AM

As always, thank you for posting your findings/insights Loren!

basslover911 · 10-17-2009, 10:43 PM

Hey Loren I have a few questions...

1- How much dead weight would you be removing by taking out the Front sway?
2- Is handling VERY much affected during everyday driving?
3- How about taking it off on stiffer "lowering springs" (i.e. stock shocks, with lowering springs)

Loren · 10-18-2009, 09:54 PM

1. No idea, I haven't had the motivation to actually remove mine, just removed an end link. Judging by the size of it... maybe 12-15 pounds tops.
2. IF you have a really big rear bar, you probably won't notice not having the front one. I can't say for sure, though because my springs are so stiff that I definitely don't notice.
3. Try it. A front swaybar end link can be removed in like 5 minutes. This renders the swaybar completely ineffective. Won't hurt a thing. Completely reversible in another 5 minutes.

Betrivent · 10-18-2009, 10:05 PM

That video made me lol. Also, cornering hard scares me even without lifting my rear wheel off the ground. I think the fastest I dare turn a right at is 30-35km/h

thepoche · 11-08-2009, 04:59 PM

I removed my coilovers and installed the stock suspension for the winter and I broke one link in the process.

Did you have any issues with the bar hitting other parts? The disconnected link is on the left and when I turn right (weight is on the left side) I can hear the bar banging on something.

Anyways, let's hope the dealers has end links in stock, otherwise I'll have to sail this boat to work for a while!

why? · 11-08-2009, 10:01 PM

Wow, that video is nuts! How is the suspension during normal every day driving? Or do you have another car for that?

Loren · 11-08-2009, 10:45 PM

I work from home, so I don't drive all that much. But, the Yaris is my daily driver when I need to go anywhere. Only probably with the current setup is that the rear springs are REALLY stiff and creaky. I might experiment with putting the softer rear springs back on just to get some ride quality back. Pretty low on the priority list right now, though.

thebarber · 11-08-2009, 11:07 PM

great vid, loren!

why? · 11-08-2009, 11:56 PM

So much that it is really noticeable? Ouch. I used to own a few Saabs and how you described it,
"I generally like the car to be right on the verge of oversteer, such that if I lift throttle in a turn, the back end will come around."

Is pretty much exactly how they used to handle. I'd love to get that handling with the Yaris. It just makes driving fun.

I don't know much of anything about suspension setup, but from what I've read of your writings, stiffer rear is much better for handling. I'm just starting to think what I need to do for that. One simple question though, do the fronts need to be that stiff for normal driving, or for just racing?

07-13-2009, 07:56 PM	#20
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Aspect ratio is screwy, but here's some video: http://blip.tv/file/2351613 __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

07-13-2009, 08:09 PM	#21
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07-14-2009, 12:59 AM	#24
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	I've always wanted to try removing the front swaybar . Maybe next Autox. Nice vid __________________

10-17-2009, 03:14 AM	#26
tomato Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2DR LB 07, MT, Abs. Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,155	Never seen a Yaris on 3 wheels before! Love the video! __________________ Follow Bamboo the YarisWorld Traveler here

10-18-2009, 09:54 PM	#30
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	1. No idea, I haven't had the motivation to actually remove mine, just removed an end link. Judging by the size of it... maybe 12-15 pounds tops. 2. IF you have a really big rear bar, you probably won't notice not having the front one. I can't say for sure, though because my springs are so stiff that I definitely don't notice. 3. Try it. A front swaybar end link can be removed in like 5 minutes. This renders the swaybar completely ineffective. Won't hurt a thing. Completely reversible in another 5 minutes. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

07-13-2009, 02:38 PM	#19
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	live and learn I guess :D

07-13-2009, 09:17 PM	#23
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	dude, you are a 3-wheeling monster! haha

10-17-2009, 08:47 AM	#27
advocate Drives: car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,033	Looks great Loren! Going to have to get a rear sway bar and then start experimenting. The three-wheel action looks pretty scary but when you think about it the rear wheels on our car don't do anything except prevent us from having to drag our rear behind us.

10-17-2009, 09:27 AM	#28
schleppy I love momentum. View User's Garage Drives: 2009 Yaris LB, Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 587	As always, thank you for posting your findings/insights Loren!

10-17-2009, 10:43 PM	#29
basslover911 Drives: Future Yaris! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 38	Hey Loren I have a few questions... 1- How much dead weight would you be removing by taking out the Front sway? 2- Is handling VERY much affected during everyday driving? 3- How about taking it off on stiffer "lowering springs" (i.e. stock shocks, with lowering springs)

10-18-2009, 10:05 PM	#31
Betrivent Not quite a noob Drives: e46 325 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: edmonton Posts: 1,408	That video made me lol. Also, cornering hard scares me even without lifting my rear wheel off the ground. I think the fastest I dare turn a right at is 30-35km/h

11-08-2009, 04:59 PM	#32
thepoche View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Yaris CE Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 56	I removed my coilovers and installed the stock suspension for the winter and I broke one link in the process. Did you have any issues with the bar hitting other parts? The disconnected link is on the left and when I turn right (weight is on the left side) I can hear the bar banging on something. Anyways, let's hope the dealers has end links in stock, otherwise I'll have to sail this boat to work for a while!

11-08-2009, 10:01 PM	#33
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	Wow, that video is nuts! How is the suspension during normal every day driving? Or do you have another car for that? __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

11-08-2009, 10:45 PM	#34
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	I work from home, so I don't drive all that much. But, the Yaris is my daily driver when I need to go anywhere. Only probably with the current setup is that the rear springs are REALLY stiff and creaky. I might experiment with putting the softer rear springs back on just to get some ride quality back. Pretty low on the priority list right now, though. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

11-08-2009, 11:07 PM	#35
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	great vid, loren! __________________

11-08-2009, 11:56 PM	#36
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	So much that it is really noticeable? Ouch. I used to own a few Saabs and how you described it, "I generally like the car to be right on the verge of oversteer, such that if I lift throttle in a turn, the back end will come around." Is pretty much exactly how they used to handle. I'd love to get that handling with the Yaris. It just makes driving fun. I don't know much of anything about suspension setup, but from what I've read of your writings, stiffer rear is much better for handling. I'm just starting to think what I need to do for that. One simple question though, do the fronts need to be that stiff for normal driving, or for just racing? __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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