Fuel Economy - Page 39 - Toyota Yaris Forums

ItsMyDaily · 10-02-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

Break-in time is definately a factor in MPG. I have 2200 on the ODO and my MPGs seem to be going up by about 1MPG per fillup lately. 31,32,33...
Also try switching to synthetic oil at your first oil change. Folks have been reporting increased MPGs just by doing that. Mobil-1 or Amsoil is your best bet with a good filter.

thankx for the reply. I figure the little guy just needs the engine to be broken in for a little longer. I'll do the switch to synthetic aswell and see what kind of role that plays. Maybe an intake to help the engine breath better, should help with mpg aswell.

07WYarisRS · 10-02-2006, 10:00 AM

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil

ItsMyDaily · 10-02-2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07WYarisRS

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil

Wow is the dealer oil really that bad. The car is a daily driver, and usually I do all my own oil changes on all my cars, but now I can get free oil changes at toyota when ever I want. I used to work for a toyota dealership, and my mechanic friends there give me free services.

But if factory oil isn't good enough for a daily driven car that is babied then I'll switch to synthetic.

Racer X-8 · 10-02-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07WYarisRS

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil

Agreed.

I'm also in the Mazda RX-8 forum ( www.rx8club.com ) , and there are some over there that are absolute nuts about debating oils, headed-up by a dude going by the name of RotaryGod. He swears by Royal Purple and nobody can dispute the merits of that oil. I loose interest kinda quickly in that topic (and I'm a mechanical engineer). I'm actually not a synthetic oil user, I use Castrol GTX. I might go Royal Purple with this Yaris though.

Long (very long!) story short - regular oils work fine in normal use, but if you want even better performance, go synthetic, and if you want to go synthetic, then buy Royal Purple. That's the way I see it.

nsmitchell · 10-02-2006, 12:27 PM

^ Performance equating to bettter MPG.

I might try Royal Purple to see how it goes. Either that or Grape Kool-Ade! :)

One benefit of using Royal Purple is that if you buy the oil and let someone else (dealer) change your oil for you, you will know they didn't switch oils on you by putting conventional oil in your car and keeping the synthetic for themselves. Check your dipstick for the purple oil.

Racer X-8 · 10-02-2006, 12:45 PM

Yeah, but check quickly, I understand the purple color goes away in a fairly short amount of time, then it looks like regular dino.

nsmitchell · 10-02-2006, 01:36 PM

Just did some research on Royal Purple vs Amsoil. It looks like Amsoil is still superior. This discussion needs to go over to the Synthetic thread.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1690

redglare45 · 10-02-2006, 01:47 PM

This is the best tank I've gotten so far:
435 miles / 700.48km
10.57 gallons (US) / 40.03 liters
That's about: 41.15 MPG or 17.49 Km/L

On this tank, I babied it big time and the results were evident.
Also about 85% highway and 15% city.
No A/C used.

tomjasz · 10-02-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer X-8

Yeah, but check quickly, I understand the purple color goes away in a fairly short amount of time, then it looks like regular dino.

What's being said about Royal Purple and past quality issues?

Racer X-8 · 10-02-2006, 04:53 PM

Sorry, not sure of your querry. What you quoted is just about the color of the oil and that has no effect on its performance / quality.

but yeah, it's real good stuff.

And also, yeah, this oil stuff needs to go to that linky that nsmitchell has given above a little...

Racer X-8 · 10-02-2006, 07:43 PM

The telltale tale of one Yaris... bought on 4-18-06 and now at 10,485 miles. I just filled her up tonight...

Jem_hadar · 10-03-2006, 12:11 AM

US gallons I assume? Or imperial!

I really drives me nuts about how both systems use "gallons" but they're different measures!

Ugh.. just annoying trying ot figure out which one often ppl are referring too!

Racer X-8 · 10-03-2006, 07:37 AM

I'm in SC - that's South Carolina. I realize my "location" maybe obscures that little tidbit of information to where ppl aren't sure what the SC means - so sorry. US gallons. Now, go get some sleep. :p

blommer · 10-03-2006, 05:07 PM

woohooo yaris rulez

nsmitchell · 10-04-2006, 08:46 AM

31MPG - Drivin' it hard on this tank, but no AC. Sprint starts and high speed driving. I need to mellow out some...

Racer X-8 · 10-04-2006, 09:04 AM

I once tried taking a trip with 4 ppl and a luggage carrier on the roof. The poor thing was really struggling, I had to floor it a lot. The darn luggage carrier really did need a roof rack, so I deemed it unsafe and returned home after about 30 miles of trying. My point being, loaded-down like that, it really is underpowered so badly, the mpg would have probably been like 20-25.

nsmitchell · 10-04-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Racer X-8

I once tried taking a trip with 4 ppl and a luggage carrier on the roof. The poor thing was really struggling, I had to floor it a lot. The darn luggage carrier really did need a roof rack, so I deemed it unsafe and returned home after about 30 miles of trying. My point being, loaded-down like that, it really is underpowered so badly, the mpg would have probably been like 20-25.

I was considering taking the Yaris on a camping trip with the wife and 2 kids this weekend. I just don't think we could stuff 4 sleeping bags and our tent in the hatch. I will try though. And a cooler. Maybe one of those folding coolers and I will just buy food after we set up camp. Thinking about Loft Mountain Campground in the Shenandoah National Park, Virginia. I may end up taking the Odyssey though.

It gets about 20-25MPG on the HWY...

Racer X-8 · 10-04-2006, 10:48 AM

Darned luggage carriers are almost always designed to be strapped-down to a roof rack. I bungee-corded mine thru the windows, hooked inside to each other. I thought it would work, but the air pushed it back almost to the antena and the front of it made a "wall" that the air blew against. Argh, and the buffeting was getting pretty bad above 60 mph. I was extremely relieved to get it home unscathed, we threw the bags in the trunk of our 32 mpg Infiniti G20T and re-started the trip 1 hour later than expected, all the way to Kissimmee, FL. We would have been in big trouble if we didn't bail.

10-02-2006, 10:00 AM	#686
07WYarisRS HardlyDangerous Drives: 09 Yaris LE, H/B, auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ridgeway Ontario Posts: 573	Actually Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks. But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils. Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil __________________ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

10-02-2006, 12:27 PM	#689
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	^ Performance equating to bettter MPG. I might try Royal Purple to see how it goes. Either that or Grape Kool-Ade! :) One benefit of using Royal Purple is that if you buy the oil and let someone else (dealer) change your oil for you, you will know they didn't switch oils on you by putting conventional oil in your car and keeping the synthetic for themselves. Check your dipstick for the purple oil. Last edited by nsmitchell; 10-02-2006 at 12:51 PM.

10-02-2006, 07:43 PM	#695
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	The telltale tale of one Yaris... bought on 4-18-06 and now at 10,485 miles. I just filled her up tonight... Attached Images

10-03-2006, 12:11 AM	#696
Jem_hadar MORDSITH View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Collingwood, ON Posts: 632	US gallons I assume? Or imperial! I really drives me nuts about how both systems use "gallons" but they're different measures! Ugh.. just annoying trying ot figure out which one often ppl are referring too! __________________ 2007 Yaris Hatchback 5 Door LE, Manual, Package B, Bayou Blue Metallic

10-04-2006, 08:46 AM	#699
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	31MPG - Drivin' it hard on this tank, but no AC. Sprint starts and high speed driving. I need to mellow out some... __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

10-02-2006, 12:45 PM	#690
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	Yeah, but check quickly, I understand the purple color goes away in a fairly short amount of time, then it looks like regular dino.

10-02-2006, 01:36 PM	#691
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	Just did some research on Royal Purple vs Amsoil. It looks like Amsoil is still superior. This discussion needs to go over to the Synthetic thread. http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1690

10-02-2006, 01:47 PM	#692
redglare45 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Sedan - 5 Speed Manual Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pomona / Pasadena, California Posts: 337	This is the best tank I've gotten so far: 435 miles / 700.48km 10.57 gallons (US) / 40.03 liters That's about: 41.15 MPG or 17.49 Km/L On this tank, I babied it big time and the results were evident. Also about 85% highway and 15% city. No A/C used.

10-02-2006, 04:53 PM	#694
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	Sorry, not sure of your querry. What you quoted is just about the color of the oil and that has no effect on its performance / quality. but yeah, it's real good stuff. And also, yeah, this oil stuff needs to go to that linky that nsmitchell has given above a little...

10-03-2006, 07:37 AM	#697
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	I'm in SC - that's South Carolina. I realize my "location" maybe obscures that little tidbit of information to where ppl aren't sure what the SC means - so sorry. US gallons. Now, go get some sleep. :p

10-03-2006, 05:07 PM	#698
blommer Drives: Yaris MAN RED 3DR LB Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Perth Posts: 5	woohooo yaris rulez

10-04-2006, 09:04 AM	#700
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	I once tried taking a trip with 4 ppl and a luggage carrier on the roof. The poor thing was really struggling, I had to floor it a lot. The darn luggage carrier really did need a roof rack, so I deemed it unsafe and returned home after about 30 miles of trying. My point being, loaded-down like that, it really is underpowered so badly, the mpg would have probably been like 20-25.

10-04-2006, 10:48 AM	#702
Racer X-8 Races Little Red Wagons Drives: red '07 Yaris liftback auto. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: warmed-up, SC Posts: 92	Darned luggage carriers are almost always designed to be strapped-down to a roof rack. I bungee-corded mine thru the windows, hooked inside to each other. I thought it would work, but the air pushed it back almost to the antena and the front of it made a "wall" that the air blew against. Argh, and the buffeting was getting pretty bad above 60 mph. I was extremely relieved to get it home unscathed, we threw the bags in the trunk of our 32 mpg Infiniti G20T and re-started the trip 1 hour later than expected, all the way to Kissimmee, FL. We would have been in big trouble if we didn't bail.