cabin air filter

[IanCFitz]

This cracks me up, On page 159 of the US 2007 yaris sedan manual it says:

The air filter should be installed properly in position. The use of air conditioning with the air filter removed may cause deteriorated dustproof performance and then affect air conditioning performance.

OK then where the !&@% is my filter?

I guess its off to autozone to find one...

[slvryaris]

I would take it to the dealer and get a free one. Just complain that the manual says what it says then they should give ya one. Just deal with a manager or something. They should give in. I am going to go and complain when I get my oil changed this week.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by slvryaris

I would take it to the dealer and get a free one. Just complain that the manual says what it says then they should give ya one. Just deal with a manager or something. They should give in. I am going to go and complain when I get my oil changed this week.

Hmmm... I would be interested to hear the dealers response. Please keep us informed.

[slvryaris]

I am thinking the same but it would be like not having an air filter in the intake well one is more sever then the other but...... It is suppose to be there and its not. No where in the manual does it say it is optional. I am sure if you bitched enough and say something like your gonna let Toyota know then I imagine they would give ya one since it is suppose to be in there and its not.

[Newyaris]

Please let us know about the result!

Here in Greece the filter is not included!
I have contacted (by email or phone) the Toyota offices in Greece, Europe (Belgium) and Japan and they gave me the same answer: "That's the way it is! No filter! Buy one if you like!"

[kimona]

Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

[black2yaris]

Originally Posted by kimona

Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

like your avitar , you must bend over when you ask that question at the dealership & assume the position .......

[devinlamothe]

Just a note - I have a 2007 4-door hatch and my car does have a cabin air filter. Also, the dealer knows about the filter, and even my service schedule recommends it being changed every couple of months due to potential mold/blockages. BTW, I live in Canada. :)

[Super_BQ]

I have contacted (by email or phone) the Toyota offices in Greece, Europe (Belgium) and Japan and they gave me the same answer: "That's the way it is! No filter! Buy one if you like!"

Upon getting a price quote for the filter here in NZ, the parts dept. called me back and mentioned that none of the Yaris models in NZ come with the filter. So from the dealer's standpoint, they're quite firm about not giving them out.

BTW, price for one shipped overnight = $60NZ ($42 USD)

Emailed my father to check the local Napa dealer in Canada. $20 cdn - I told him to buy 2 to bring over. Though they are not the Bosch or Purolator one, they said it was the equivalent replacement.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by devinlamothe

Just a note - I have a 2007 4-door hatch and my car does have a cabin air filter. Also, the dealer knows about the filter, and even my service schedule recommends it being changed every couple of months due to potential mold/blockages. BTW, I live in Canada. :)

Well, the sedan probably has a cabin A/C filter quite simply because it is not a Yaris; it is a Belta, designed and built by a different division of Toyota. I assume the blower unit fits in the Belta such that the filter and frame assembly can be installed.

[caveatipse]

Originally Posted by kimona

Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

The Toyota filter also fits just fine without a frame.

[black2yaris]

Originally Posted by caveatipse

The Toyota filter also fits just fine without a frame.

But the others are cheaper in price !!

[rdenisonjr]

I found the part number quite easily in the Pep Boys parts catalog, it seems that RAV-4 have the same filter as well as several other models -- cost about 12 bucks

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by kimona

Well, the sedan probably has a cabin A/C filter quite simply because it is not a Yaris; it is a Belta, designed and built by a different division of Toyota. I assume the blower unit fits in the Belta such that the filter and frame assembly can be installed.

My sedan did not come with one - after we bought the car that is something that my husband looked for. I called the dealership and they said that Toyota doesn't supply them, but I could buy one from them for $40. That will never happen.

I am going to be buying one of the ones suggest in this thread however, because I have been trying to find one that would fit.

[voodoo22]

In Canada the dealer always wants to replace these every 16k km's for 52$! Bailouts walkthrough will save me 100's and it takes absolutely no mechanical acumen to follow and execute.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by JBougie

My sedan did not come with one - after we bought the car that is something that my husband looked for. I called the dealership and they said that Toyota doesn't supply them, but I could buy one from them for $40. That will never happen.

I am going to be buying one of the ones suggest in this thread however, because I have been trying to find one that would fit.

Go to your Local O'Reilly Auto Parts. They have them and they are only $8.99 and they are a perfect fit. Item # 3679

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Go to your Local O'Reilly Auto Parts. They have them and they are only $8.99 and they are a perfect fit. Item # 3679

And they should be good for about 15K miles, so about $20.00 for 2 years worth. Sure beats the heck out of one with a filtering surface area that's half cardboard and duct tape.

[buchieboy]

aside from the glove compartment? is there any other place where the cabin filter is located?
I cant remove my darn glovebox