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08-21-2009, 07:33 PM | #253 |
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It's a national fascination/idolatry with The Duke. 20 or 30% percent of the population wakes up each morning imagining that they walk and talk like him. As long as they're not pointing a gun at you at the moment it's really kind of cute.
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09-05-2009, 03:07 PM | #254 |
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09-05-2009, 05:35 PM | #255 |
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sure got that right
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HEY! Dont dog The DUKE lol.
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I never did understand the fascination with John Wayne. He was an actor, but the people that love him would have you believe what they saw of him on screen was his real life. Anyhow, I'd take the bad ass roles that Clint Eastwood played over Wayne any day.
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Wait a sec... John Wayne appeared in many movies, but calling him an actor is pushing it. He changed nothing, regardless of the role, he was just John Wayne in just another movie. Eastwood is slightly better, still a distance away from acting.
Now, Tom Hanks, actor: go down the list, and there are few duplications in his approach, from Forrest Gump to CastAway. Truly a professional actor, one of the greats in his own time. |
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Both Wayne and Eastwood simply Played/play the same character over and over simply because that is all they can do. In fact, Estwood once got fired from an acting gig due to the fact that he couldn't act. Dirty Harry made him a star and he has been playing the same deadpan, monotone charactor ever since. It was much the same with Wayne. Tom Hanks on the other hand, is a true character actor, one of the best of our times. |
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09-06-2009, 04:36 AM | #261 |
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John Wayne was a political icon as much as actor. He presented a simplified and idealised potrait of American frontier values in both his acting and and his public image; He portrayed an image of an alpha male in a land of unlimited resources, and celibrated American manifest destiny, be it on the forest or planes of the continent of North America, or the rivers, mountains and islands of the far east and south America. His films were made by euroamerican males and stated quite clearly a superiority and a sense of entitlement for that ethnic group. They are virtually all racist, particularly in their treatment persons of Oriental, Hispanic and native American descent. It is widely rumoured, contrary tothe public machismo that behind closed doors Wayne and Gary Cooper were boyfriends. Give me the moral uncertainty of most of Bogart anytime.
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Thanks for finding the political angle on Wayne. You're right on all counts, though I'd never heard the gay angle. He certainly personified an attitude that remains today in the minds of many conservative men. It's a shame that attitude didn't die along with him as it has no place in this day and age.
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Yes, Wayne personified an image that was carefullly cultivated and was very apealing to certain political views and attitudes.
This shoot first from the hip and ask questions later false, misgided, macho attitude which became universally known as the "John Wayne mentality". His personal life did have some have mysteries of sorts and it is dificult to determine exactly what is true. BTW, his real name was "Marion Robert Morrison" |
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Charles Bronson was way more bad ass anyways.
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Seeing as how this is the political thread...
Today Google news is showing a Washington Post article entitled "President Is Expected to Take Firmer Positions". You mean to say that the president is growing some nads? That would be a nice change for any democrat, let alone the president. I can't imagine a worse president than W but at least he had/has nads. Reagan, omg if I could change a single thing in history it would be to eliminate Reagan from the presidency, but at least Reagan had nads. Our current president (and the House and the Senate) needs to grow some nads. Same old, same old ain't going to cut it. Big business and their lobbyists are calling the shots and everyone knows it. The way they're controlling the public discourse on health care is a fine example. Getting the average working joe to declare that securing health care for working families is socialism is so manipulative it's amazing. I'd sit back and enjoy watching the testosterone filled dumb fecks being manipulated that way but I'm afraid it will be another 20 years before health care stands a chance again. |
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The scam works this way: for years and years the person purchasing health insurance pays into a pool. All goes well for them until they need to draw out of that pool. At this time the insurance will go up, or sometimes be cancelled.
This (how fortunate for the insurance company) happens at the same time because the mark (yes mark) has become sick and is in a bind. He (or she)probably can not work or at least is unable to generate as much income as he did before to pay for the insurance. What you get is a poor sucker who has paid into a medical insurance pool for years, perhaps decades, who is no longer able to pay for it. The result: years of payments in, few payments out. If you think that they are not aware of this you are not thinking. However, understanding this requires a several step reasoning process, which can easily be blotted out to the simple and not so simple minded with a well placed knee jerk sound bite. Socialist, Communist. No truth to it but for those who do not want to think, it is much easier to believe this horse shit than to modify their beliefs in a way that would be in their ultimate self interest. Silly rabbit tricks are for kids. So it goes on and the ignorant are played for fools There is also another gambit involved here preexistiing conditions..Once your initial insurance policy has expired due to being cancelled,or being too costly to afford, all illnesses that you already have become preexisting condtions. The insurance companies need no longer pay for medical expense where they can be shown to have anything to due with any sickness you need them to pay for. As I said before this requires a little reasoning, which is easily blotted out by a couple sound bites. And thats the way it works, your health and wealth, stolen by investor class swine. One must remember that all your property is on the block for medical expenses as soon as these snakes slip out the back door. Fully half of all foreclosures are for medical expenses and fully 40% of all people have no health insurance 6 months after the start of a truly serious illness. Gee where did that "medical insurance" go? Last edited by Bob Dog; 09-08-2009 at 04:16 AM. |
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Holy smokes, an American that gets it, and has the guts to tell it like it is!! I'm impressed, Bob, good on ya.
However, you just know that the next barrage from the Neo-Cons will just recycle all the BS about communism, free choice, the market and all that balderdash. And that is the sick part that no health care can cure. |
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In regards to Joe "You Lie" Wilson...
Wilson is the liar here. H.R. 3200 SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States. |
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http://www.ridersusa.net/Content/Doc...hx?DocId=65521 Section 246 of H.R. 3200 does allow illegal aliens to receive taxpayer-funded health care The President is not being totally honest in his remarks. While the bill doesn't invite all the illegals to sign up, the bill does nothing to prevent them from signing up for the plan. They just won't be eligible for the affordability credits. Quote:
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