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Old 01-03-2007, 12:09 PM   #1
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Defrost.

I wasn't for sure what section to post this under but...

Is anyone having a crappy time with their defroster in the mornings? Here in Arkansas, the weather has been kind of chilly in the mornings and my car has frost all over it. It takes about 20 minutes, LITERALLY, to defrost the whole windshield (which isn't big at all!). It takes even longer to do my windows and my poor little side mirrors... they stayed frosted the whole drive to work because i can't get them unfrosted.

Am I doing something wrong or what??

I basically have to drive around with my defrost on all the time because if i take it off of defrost, my car fogs up SO bad.

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Old 01-03-2007, 12:36 PM   #2
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It might be that you don't have your air recirculating. You know that switch between air coming from outside and air recirculating through the car? If it is cold outside your air will never warm up if you have it bringing fresh air from outside. Try that, but leave it on the fresh air one when parked so your air filter doesn't start to stink.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:43 PM   #3
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It might be that you don't have your air recirculating. You know that switch between air coming from outside and air recirculating through the car? If it is cold outside your air will never warm up if you have it bringing fresh air from outside. Try that, but leave it on the fresh air one when parked so your air filter doesn't start to stink.
I second this, Make sure you're set to recirculate.. and try again. What do you mean your mirrors stay frosted? Is there supposed to be a mirror defrost on the car?..
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:59 PM   #4
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I've been noticing that my rear window has been taking longer to defrost... but that could because I didnt start my car till right when I left (norm let it warm up for a couple of mins before i hit the road: the joys of remote starters )...

but ditto to above comments about recirculating the air: also helps in the summer to keep it colder with a/c
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:52 PM   #5
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nope, sorry guys. I never use the outside air. EVER.

I only notice a difference because my old car (99 chrysler cirrus) warmed up extremely fast. When I would get into my car in the mornings, everything would be ready to go! When I get into my yaris, I have to sit and wait....

As for my side mirrors - i don't know how to explain it. Like, is there something in the car that should heat your mirrors up so they don't stay frosted? In my old car I never once had a problem with this but in my yaris, I'll be driving to work and my windows are still foggy and my side mirror is still so frosted I can't use it to switch lanes in the morning. I usually have to roll down my window and finally use my hand to get the ice to melt.

i don't think this is normal...?
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Old 01-03-2007, 03:22 PM   #6
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I think it's normal if there's moisture, if it stays below freezing outside, and if you don't have heated side mirrors (not an option on the Yaris).

I've always had to scrape frost/ice from my side mirrors, no matter what car model it was, if the mirrors were unheated.
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Old 01-03-2007, 03:32 PM   #7
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Do you have a rear window defroster?
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:32 PM   #8
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boris - it's not exactly below freezing outside.. lol.. i mean, i AM in arkansas, but still it gets old REALLY fast when i have to roll down the window and scrape the ice off. i guess maybe my old car had heated side mirrors and i just didnt know it??

chino - yes?
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:41 PM   #9
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We got the cold weather package here and the defroster works well.

I wonder what folks in your region get?
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Old 01-03-2007, 04:55 PM   #10
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We got the cold weather package here and the defroster works well.

I wonder what folks in your region get?
apparently crap, lol.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:33 PM   #11
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Try using the outside air
if I switch it to inside air my windows fog up FAST, and I have to keep it on defrost all the time.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:14 PM   #12
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Try using the outside air
if I switch it to inside air my windows fog up FAST, and I have to keep it on defrost all the time.
i agree. i've driven in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Northwest New York (Lake Effect Snow!). in the winter in particular i've always driven with the external air
on to avoid the fogging. it's recycled 2x, once when u breathe it and then when your car runs it through again. u know how u can blow on glass and create a moment of fog? that's what you're breathing into the re-circulated air. if your heater can't effectively heat outside air, u have a problem with Toyota imo.

every car i've driven requires that u keep the defrost on in colder climates.

every car i've ever driven (without heated mirrors) requires that i scrape the frost off of the mirrors if i expect to use them in a cold climate. even then there have been situations in which the ice/snow is thick enough where the the heated mirror melts the ice making contact with the mirror and the shell of ice is still blocking the view of the mirror.

Arkansas! Just "north" enough to throw you southern drivers off when the cold comes! ;) I've got in-laws in Oklahoma and Arkansas and just came back from the holidays over there.

edit: just read the whole thread, sorry to be redundant! :D

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Old 01-05-2007, 01:55 PM   #13
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i agree. i've driven in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Northwest New York (Lake Effect Snow!). in the winter in particular i've always driven with the external air
on to avoid the fogging. it's recycled 2x, once when u breathe it and then when your car runs it through again. u know how u can blow on glass and create a moment of fog? that's what you're breathing into the re-circulated air. if your heater can't effectively heat outside air, u have a problem with Toyota imo.

every car i've driven requires that u keep the defrost on in colder climates.

every car i've ever driven (without heated mirrors) requires that i scrape the frost off of the mirrors if i expect to use them in a cold climate. even then there have been situations in which the ice/snow is thick enough where the the heated mirror melts the ice making contact with the mirror and the shell of ice is still blocking the view of the mirror.

Arkansas! Just "north" enough to throw you southern drivers off when the cold comes! ;) I've got in-laws in Oklahoma and Arkansas and just came back from the holidays over there.

edit: just read the whole thread, sorry to be redundant! :D
no, thanks for your post! i have only ever driven one car before so everything i know is based on what it would do. my inside/outside air knob was broken by my sister YEARS ago so i don't even know if i was getting inside air or not... seriously.

I actually live in the middle of arkansas which is even worse than northern arkansas b/c northern arkansas, every now and then, gets cold weather and sometimes.. yes.. even snow!!!!!!
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:48 PM   #14
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just scrape it off/wipe it... much faster :)

quit bein lazy! lol :D
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:28 PM   #15
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yaris don't warm up very fast if you let them sit scrape it off some and drive it or you could get some of that spray stuff
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:14 PM   #16
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Yes for the last three posts!

Let's start with one matter of fact: Defrosting is different than defogging.

The quickest way to defrost your windows is to get out there and scrape the stuff off. Once you did that, then all you need to do is keep the glass above freezing. Too bad that modern-day cars automatically turn on the air conditioning compressor when you put them in one of the defrost selector positions, the Yaris is no different. But, a warmed-up engine gives you warm enough air to defrost, even with the AC on. To repeat, scrape the stuff off, once you try it, you'll see why so many other people do it this way. The best way to get hot air is to get your engine hot. The best way to get your engine hot is to put a load on it. The best way to put a load on it is to drive it, and since you're wanting to get somewhere, you might as well drive in that general direction while you're warming-up the engine. It won't take very long to see that warm air hitting the frosty residue that's still on the glass. Hopefully, you get that before it gets so frosty again, you gotta stop and scrape again. That happens sometimes, you know. Just try not to breath too heavily in the direction of the windshield.

Once you got the glass above freezing temperature, it will never frost-up - it can't. But it will most definitely fog-up. To defog on the outside, use your windshield wipers. To defog on the inside, you gotta get rid of the moisture in the interior cabin, which condenses on the colder glass, which is what fogs them up. To get rid of the moisture, you can do two things, and the most effective thing is to do them both at the same time. Turn on your defrost mode, which also turns on the AC. The AC removes moisture real well, and since you have it on defrost, that dried air gets blown right onto the fogged-up glass and clears it up. The other thing is to turn to fresh air, not recirculated. The air on the outside is a lot drier than the inside air, laden with moisture, which comes from the inside occupant(s), their breath that they exhale and just generally from their bodies, thier heads. Lots of moisture comes from people. Turn to fresh air to get it outta there. Try just that as an experiment when you start seeing fogginess on your windshield, turn to fresh air and watch it clear-up pretty quickly.

Your side mirrors - there's no heat to defrost them. Scrape them too.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:50 AM   #17
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Get urself a remote start and let our heat/defog on 5...5-10 mins b4 u go in ur car...
Wouldn't that work?

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Old 01-05-2007, 02:53 PM   #18
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this car is very slow to warm up. the best thing is to keep it at 3000rpm - it will get warm much quickly - and to shut up the heating until it warms up. even so, the hot air will never be more than... warm air. not to mention the rear defrost
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