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JumpmanYaris · 02-10-2012, 06:26 PM

http://www.break.com/index/father-te...cebook-2298729

Please show this to you kids

Altitude · 02-10-2012, 06:38 PM

I can certainly understand his point of view - his daughter sounds like a spoiled brat - but I think he could have handled it a bit better rather than putting bullets into it.

First of all, she's HIS daughter - she learned that disrespect from HIM.

Secondly he could have forced her to hand the laptop over to someone more in need of it who would appreciate it more. Making her perform that action herself would have more impact than seeing a video of him shooting it. There are plenty of charities and other needful children around who could have used it.

JumpmanYaris · 02-10-2012, 06:46 PM

It's the principle sir! But sort of understand

TLyttle · 02-11-2012, 12:20 AM

I like Altitude's attitude. I don't understand how bullets are the ultimate solution to any problem. Besides, there are SO many other ways to get to a kid like her!!

why? · 02-11-2012, 07:50 PM

To me the father is saying,"hey you are acting more childish than I am. Cut that out."

And then he does more to prove that the daughter is 100% right in everything she said than any other thing possible.

Just absurd anyone could think this is a good thing. Parenting is not suppose to be acting more childish than your child.

A real parent would have said,"there's the door, don't let it hit you on the ass on your way out."

fnkngrv · 02-11-2012, 08:19 PM

I am sure that each generation could say this exact thing, but today's kids are a real challenge to raise. With the internet and media exposure at the fingertips it is no wonder today's children are the "entitlement" generation. When my daughter turned 15 she began in with the arguments and such about how we needed to buy and insure a car for her. That it is her God given (yes, that phrase) right to have a brand new, not used car bought and paid for by us for her to have. She will be 18 in a month and she still has no car. We told her if she wanted a vehicle then she needed to at the very least have a job and help to contribute to the costs. She refuses. Too many of her friend's parents have purchased vehicles anywhere from 20-30k for their teens and pay for everything...gas, maintenance, insurance, etc. How does this assist in teaching your children financial responsibility and the effort that it takes the average person to have transportation that they own? It is just like college. Her mother and I both believe in the value of the children making their own way through college. A parent paying for it teaches the child nothing and lengthens the time before they actually mature into financially capable and responsible adults.

As for the father in the video, I could see where he would go to the extremes. Do I agree with it...not so much. I would have done what else was suggested here in giving it to someone else. It is very easy for all of us however to make judgement because we are not living it. I am living a very tough scenario with my teen daughter and have made both good and bad choices, but I am learning and adapting to how I will deal with the generation further with my son who will be 12 in some months.

TLyttle · 02-11-2012, 11:03 PM

Exactly. Most competent young people (20s) I know got where they are on their own, mostly because the parents were either trying to raise other children at the same time, or were just plain struggling.

For my generation, just getting through high school without being forced to go out and work to support the family was considered to be "privileged".

The crap being demanded by this generation is plain rubbish!

why? · 02-12-2012, 09:29 AM

the crap being demanded by this generation is a result of the parents giving the children anything they wanted. Or the children seeing other kids around them being handed anything, which is insane.

These parents that just hand their kids whatever are setting these kids up for major failure, because if they've never wanted anything, why would they ever work hard at anything at all?

SilverBack · 02-12-2012, 01:14 PM

It's either shoot the laptop to keep the law off your radar, or take off the belt and have them on you like flies on shit. Using a gun was definitely excessive, but he had the right idea.

I had it tough growing up, having to learn life lessons on my own and work for everything I wanted from age 5 til moving day. This kid doesn't know how lucky she has it compared to some of us.

Altitude · 02-12-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PK198105

his laptop , his gun, his lawn, his daughter. nobody has the right to tell him how to raise his kid. end of discussion.

Really? Where's the line? Granted, his actions were fairly benign even if it was childish and sets a poor example. But surely you aren't suggesting society shouldn't play a role in dictating acceptable behavior. Are you?

Suppose this guy filmed himself beating his daughter? Do we have a right - or responsibility - as a society to at least condemn certain actions taken by others? Of course we do, it's the foundation of civilization.

TLyttle · 02-13-2012, 01:10 AM

Agreed, even though it wasn't a really big stick...

Altitude · 02-13-2012, 07:56 PM

Your points are well taken PK. I would suggest that parents have a far greater role and much larger influence over their children than the rest of society. Yes, the message kids get these days is not one we should be teaching them, but I think strong parenting skills can overcome all of that.

Clearly you weren't raised as a spoiled child, and neither was I. I think our parents deserve credit for doing a good job of parenting in light of social pressures etc.

But back on this guy's reaction. It's unfortunate that now there will be more people - the one's that praise him for it or refuse to call him out on it - that consider it appropriate and will do similar things. I guess that's why I condemn it, because it just sets yet another bad example for others to follow.

fnkngrv · 02-13-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altitude

Clearly you weren't raised as a spoiled child, and neither was I. I think our parents deserve credit for doing a good job of parenting in light of social pressures etc.

I will tell you that I am envious of my parents. I grew up through the 80s and very early 90s. Raising today's youth in the digital age holds SO many more challenges. Not to say they had it easy, but even they tell me that they would hate to be raising kids today.

*tomato* · 02-13-2012, 09:57 PM

Personally, I thought the video was hilarious and even more hilarious is the fact that he puts bullets through a laptop he just spent hours upgrading ... :P

But hey, I guess that's one way to handle the situation.

Not necessarily the best way, but it'll probably send the kid a message... some kind of message

Seriously, I truthfully do not know how I would handle the frustration of seeing my kid acting out and posting crap on FB. I really don't know what I would do. Certainly would suspend internet privileges for a while, but what good would that do if they can just as easily borrow a friend's phone and post more crap from there. It's very difficult to control what your kids are doing online now with all the devices around. I guess the only way is to build trust with your kids and hope that lasts through their teenage years but ... teenagers will be teenagers.

02-10-2012, 06:26 PM	#1
JumpmanYaris USAF_SrA_E-4 View User's Garage Drives: C300 / Del Sol Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SO. INDIANA Posts: 4,777	Father teaches daughter a real good lesson OWNED http://www.break.com/index/father-te...cebook-2298729 Please show this to you kids

02-11-2012, 07:50 PM	#5
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	To me the father is saying,"hey you are acting more childish than I am. Cut that out." And then he does more to prove that the daughter is 100% right in everything she said than any other thing possible. Just absurd anyone could think this is a good thing. Parenting is not suppose to be acting more childish than your child. A real parent would have said,"there's the door, don't let it hit you on the ass on your way out." __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

02-11-2012, 08:19 PM	#6
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	I am sure that each generation could say this exact thing, but today's kids are a real challenge to raise. With the internet and media exposure at the fingertips it is no wonder today's children are the "entitlement" generation. When my daughter turned 15 she began in with the arguments and such about how we needed to buy and insure a car for her. That it is her God given (yes, that phrase) right to have a brand new, not used car bought and paid for by us for her to have. She will be 18 in a month and she still has no car. We told her if she wanted a vehicle then she needed to at the very least have a job and help to contribute to the costs. She refuses. Too many of her friend's parents have purchased vehicles anywhere from 20-30k for their teens and pay for everything...gas, maintenance, insurance, etc. How does this assist in teaching your children financial responsibility and the effort that it takes the average person to have transportation that they own? It is just like college. Her mother and I both believe in the value of the children making their own way through college. A parent paying for it teaches the child nothing and lengthens the time before they actually mature into financially capable and responsible adults. As for the father in the video, I could see where he would go to the extremes. Do I agree with it...not so much. I would have done what else was suggested here in giving it to someone else. It is very easy for all of us however to make judgement because we are not living it. I am living a very tough scenario with my teen daughter and have made both good and bad choices, but I am learning and adapting to how I will deal with the generation further with my son who will be 12 in some months. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

02-12-2012, 09:29 AM	#8
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	the crap being demanded by this generation is a result of the parents giving the children anything they wanted. Or the children seeing other kids around them being handed anything, which is insane. These parents that just hand their kids whatever are setting these kids up for major failure, because if they've never wanted anything, why would they ever work hard at anything at all? __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

02-12-2012, 01:14 PM	#9
SilverBack Joey View User's Garage Drives: '14 Scion xD 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: El Monte, Ca Posts: 3,529	It's either shoot the laptop to keep the law off your radar, or take off the belt and have them on you like flies on shit. Using a gun was definitely excessive, but he had the right idea. I had it tough growing up, having to learn life lessons on my own and work for everything I wanted from age 5 til moving day. This kid doesn't know how lucky she has it compared to some of us. __________________ Formerly owned Met-Met. '07 Yaris LB 5-speed. A forum post should be like a skirt: Long enough to cover the subject but short enough to keep things interesting. "I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem." -Hank Hill

02-10-2012, 06:38 PM	#2
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	I can certainly understand his point of view - his daughter sounds like a spoiled brat - but I think he could have handled it a bit better rather than putting bullets into it. First of all, she's HIS daughter - she learned that disrespect from HIM. Secondly he could have forced her to hand the laptop over to someone more in need of it who would appreciate it more. Making her perform that action herself would have more impact than seeing a video of him shooting it. There are plenty of charities and other needful children around who could have used it.

02-10-2012, 06:46 PM	#3
JumpmanYaris USAF_SrA_E-4 View User's Garage Drives: C300 / Del Sol Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SO. INDIANA Posts: 4,777	It's the principle sir! But sort of understand

02-11-2012, 12:20 AM	#4
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	I like Altitude's attitude. I don't understand how bullets are the ultimate solution to any problem. Besides, there are SO many other ways to get to a kid like her!!

02-11-2012, 11:03 PM	#7
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	Exactly. Most competent young people (20s) I know got where they are on their own, mostly because the parents were either trying to raise other children at the same time, or were just plain struggling. For my generation, just getting through high school without being forced to go out and work to support the family was considered to be "privileged". The crap being demanded by this generation is plain rubbish!

02-13-2012, 01:10 AM	#11
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	Agreed, even though it wasn't a really big stick...

02-13-2012, 07:56 PM	#12
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	Your points are well taken PK. I would suggest that parents have a far greater role and much larger influence over their children than the rest of society. Yes, the message kids get these days is not one we should be teaching them, but I think strong parenting skills can overcome all of that. Clearly you weren't raised as a spoiled child, and neither was I. I think our parents deserve credit for doing a good job of parenting in light of social pressures etc. But back on this guy's reaction. It's unfortunate that now there will be more people - the one's that praise him for it or refuse to call him out on it - that consider it appropriate and will do similar things. I guess that's why I condemn it, because it just sets yet another bad example for others to follow.

02-13-2012, 09:57 PM	#14
tomato Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 2DR LB 07, MT, Abs. Red Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 5,155	Personally, I thought the video was hilarious and even more hilarious is the fact that he puts bullets through a laptop he just spent hours upgrading ... :P But hey, I guess that's one way to handle the situation. Not necessarily the best way, but it'll probably send the kid a message... some kind of message Seriously, I truthfully do not know how I would handle the frustration of seeing my kid acting out and posting crap on FB. I really don't know what I would do. Certainly would suspend internet privileges for a while, but what good would that do if they can just as easily borrow a friend's phone and post more crap from there. It's very difficult to control what your kids are doing online now with all the devices around. I guess the only way is to build trust with your kids and hope that lasts through their teenage years but ... teenagers will be teenagers. __________________ Follow Bamboo the YarisWorld Traveler here