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nookandcrannycar · 11-05-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kimona

Sure... but the CVT gets significantly better gas mileage (generally one of the main reasons to buy an econobox) than the manual transmission (which doesn't sound too impressive). And... it looks like the CVT can be added (+$1000) to the base model DE which comes surprisingly well equipped.

Also, I guess I just have a rosy opinion (from my own experience...and from what I've read from YW member experiences) re squeezing significantly better than EPA numbers from a manual

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Hershey · 11-06-2013, 11:07 PM

Here's another test drive of the C.V.T. ( 45.8 m.p.g. mixed ) and the manual ( 44 m.p.g. similar to C.V.T. ) , http://cars.about.com/od/mitsubishi/...age-review.htm . May have to check them out soon .

nookandcrannycar · 11-06-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hershey

Here's another test drive of the manual and C.V.T. , http://cars.about.com/od/mitsubishi/...age-review.htm . May do the same soon .

If you do, definitely post your impressions. I had a 91 Dodge Colt (a rebadged Mirage as you know -- IIRC you had 1 or 2 Mirage/Colts) that I bought new. When it had just over 92k (IIRC) miles on it, the engine management computer went out. The part was about $700.00. The clutch was almost completely gone as well. I only paid $5988.00 + T & L for it new (and I also had an Acura Integra) so I didn't repair it and just drove the Integra. I can't remember if I sold the Colt to a junkyard or just let it the towing company have it (I did that with two other cars at different times and both times the towing company was fine with that because each time the car was worth enough more than the tow).

Hershey · 11-06-2013, 11:53 PM

We had a '90 hatchback . Didn't like it all that well . Knee would hit the dash and didn't do well in winter , even with studded snows . Sold it . Liked the '80 ( 1.4ltr. + 1.6 ) > '87 ( 1.5 ltr. ) better . Also had a EAGLE Summit sedan ( lots of room ) with the 5 speed manual for a short time . Sold it and that car went on for many years for that person .

Hershey · 11-06-2013, 11:55 PM

Here's a video of a SE with the manual , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kjYtmvKno . Starts driving at 2:44 in the video . Looks like fun .

nookandcrannycar · 11-07-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hershey

Here's a video of a SE with the manual , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kjYtmvKno . Starts driving at 2:44 in the video . Looks like fun .

I like the steering wheel controls. Are those USB ports on the console? In post 21, I neglected to finish my thought. I included the repairs my Colt/Mirage needed because I wonder about reliability past 100k miles. I also wonder, re part of the warranty extending for 10 years, will Mitsubishi still be in the U.S. market in 10 years (re passenger cars)?

nookandcrannycar · 11-07-2013, 07:44 PM

^^^^^ Almost forgot, is the car in the 'Manual SE Video' directly above the same in the U.S. (the dealer in the video is in Calgary) ?

Hershey · 11-07-2013, 11:03 PM

Quite sure it is .

nookandcrannycar · 11-07-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hershey

Quite sure it is .

Hershey · 11-10-2013, 11:16 AM

Here's a review for the 2013 in the U.K. . Got very good F.E. , but does have dislikes . http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tes...13-road-test/? and http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/owner-re...i/mirage-2013/ .

Hershey · 11-10-2013, 12:31 PM

Another test drive of the '14 in Canada . http://mirageforum.com/forum/showthr...ttawa-route%29 .

Hershey · 11-10-2013, 12:40 PM

The colors available in Canada . http://www.vickarmitsubishi.ca/2014-...age.aspx?lng=2 .

*tk-421* · 11-10-2013, 03:00 PM

Wow. That car looks quite a bit like the Nissan March. Not sure if they offer it in the States, though.
march_front.jpg

march_rear.jpg

I guess I like the Mirage a bit more, now that I see them side by side...

*kimona* · 11-10-2013, 08:15 PM

^^ New Nissan March looks very nice. I like it. The earlier March was so cool!

nookandcrannycar · 11-10-2013, 11:24 PM

My local Mitsubishi dealer has 3 of them, so I drove over to take a look. The info section for each car didn't include which transmission each car had, but the mileage numbers for the manual were included with the info for each car. After arriving, I peeked into each car and all 3 = CVT, not manual

. They had two of the D series (a Purple one, and a Black one) and one of the more expensive ES (a Silver one). The Silver and Purple ones did not have a 'pac' sticker, and the Black one did have a 'pac' sticker (adding about $1500 for some sort of protectant

). The two D series ones had alloy wheels that were listed as a promotion on the factory sticker and weren't added to the price. IIRC, the website also included a $750.00 factory rebate for each of the three.

I really like the dash. The layout, the way it 'sits' high and away from you, and most other things about the dash. I like the steering wheel. The seats aren't constricting, but they are pretty poor when it comes to support. As far as I could tell, all 3 had 14" alloy wheels (too small). Under the hood, it didn't look like the wiring, especially where it meets the parts it is routed to, is very well protected. The air intake (looked like a horn on top of the engine

) reminded me of old carburated vehicles. The engine sounded okay (I didn't drive one). The seat pulls (to release the rear seats, allowing the backs to be folded down) for some reason, are on the back of the seat. With the hatch closed and the package shelf in place, you can't release the seats (I tried). The pull angle (once you are even able to grab the pulls) won't allow for release. Perhaps they think this will discourage theft (

, bad design IMO). The driver door sounds very solid when closing it (I didn't try again with the window down). Can't think of any other impressions at the moment.

P.S. Oops, by 'info section for each car' I mean info section for each car on the dealer's website

Hershey · 11-11-2013, 10:59 AM

Thanks for your take . The 14" tires don't bother us . The cars in the past had "12 ( Festiva ) to 14" ( '99 Corolla ? ) . Maybe next weekend we'll take a few for a test drive and see what you're referring to with the seats , etc..

nookandcrannycar · 11-11-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hershey

Thanks for your take . The 14" tires don't bother us . The cars in the past had "12 ( Festiva ) to 14" ( '99 Corolla ? ) . Maybe next weekend we'll take a few for a test drive and see what you're referring to with the seats , etc..

FWIW, I only sat normally in the driver's seat. I sat sideways (and then kneeled) on the back seat while trying to pull the seat release.

Thirty-Nine · 11-11-2013, 02:42 PM

Cant wait to see how these fair against the Chevy Spark.

11-06-2013, 11:07 PM	#20
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Here's another test drive of the C.V.T. ( 45.8 m.p.g. mixed ) and the manual ( 44 m.p.g. similar to C.V.T. ) , http://cars.about.com/od/mitsubishi/...age-review.htm . May have to check them out soon . Last edited by Hershey; 11-06-2013 at 11:37 PM.

11-10-2013, 03:00 PM	#31
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11-10-2013, 11:24 PM	#33
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	My local Mitsubishi dealer has 3 of them, so I drove over to take a look. The info section for each car didn't include which transmission each car had, but the mileage numbers for the manual were included with the info for each car. After arriving, I peeked into each car and all 3 = CVT, not manual . They had two of the D series (a Purple one, and a Black one) and one of the more expensive ES (a Silver one). The Silver and Purple ones did not have a 'pac' sticker, and the Black one did have a 'pac' sticker (adding about $1500 for some sort of protectant ). The two D series ones had alloy wheels that were listed as a promotion on the factory sticker and weren't added to the price. IIRC, the website also included a $750.00 factory rebate for each of the three. I really like the dash. The layout, the way it 'sits' high and away from you, and most other things about the dash. I like the steering wheel. The seats aren't constricting, but they are pretty poor when it comes to support. As far as I could tell, all 3 had 14" alloy wheels (too small). Under the hood, it didn't look like the wiring, especially where it meets the parts it is routed to, is very well protected. The air intake (looked like a horn on top of the engine ) reminded me of old carburated vehicles. The engine sounded okay (I didn't drive one). The seat pulls (to release the rear seats, allowing the backs to be folded down) for some reason, are on the back of the seat. With the hatch closed and the package shelf in place, you can't release the seats (I tried). The pull angle (once you are even able to grab the pulls) won't allow for release. Perhaps they think this will discourage theft (, bad design IMO). The driver door sounds very solid when closing it (I didn't try again with the window down). Can't think of any other impressions at the moment. P.S. Oops, by 'info section for each car' I mean info section for each car on the dealer's website Last edited by nookandcrannycar; 11-11-2013 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Added P.S.

11-11-2013, 02:42 PM	#36
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	Cant wait to see how these fair against the Chevy Spark. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

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11-06-2013, 11:53 PM	#22
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	We had a '90 hatchback . Didn't like it all that well . Knee would hit the dash and didn't do well in winter , even with studded snows . Sold it . Liked the '80 ( 1.4ltr. + 1.6 ) > '87 ( 1.5 ltr. ) better . Also had a EAGLE Summit sedan ( lots of room ) with the 5 speed manual for a short time . Sold it and that car went on for many years for that person .

11-06-2013, 11:55 PM	#23
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Here's a video of a SE with the manual , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kjYtmvKno . Starts driving at 2:44 in the video . Looks like fun .

11-07-2013, 07:44 PM	#25
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	^^^^^ Almost forgot, is the car in the 'Manual SE Video' directly above the same in the U.S. (the dealer in the video is in Calgary) ?

11-07-2013, 11:03 PM	#26
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Quite sure it is .

11-10-2013, 11:16 AM	#28
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Here's a review for the 2013 in the U.K. . Got very good F.E. , but does have dislikes . http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tes...13-road-test/? and http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/owner-re...i/mirage-2013/ .

11-10-2013, 12:31 PM	#29
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Another test drive of the '14 in Canada . http://mirageforum.com/forum/showthr...ttawa-route%29 .

11-10-2013, 12:40 PM	#30
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	The colors available in Canada . http://www.vickarmitsubishi.ca/2014-...age.aspx?lng=2 .

11-11-2013, 10:59 AM	#34
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Thanks for your take . The 14" tires don't bother us . The cars in the past had "12 ( Festiva ) to 14" ( '99 Corolla ? ) . Maybe next weekend we'll take a few for a test drive and see what you're referring to with the seats , etc..