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Bluevitz-rs · 09-07-2012, 11:20 AM

Won't the car hit the speed limiter in 4th?

Anyway shouldn't matter, it's all calculated numbers anyway. The only true measure of power is directly off the crankshaft. The gearbox is simply a tourque multiplier to allow the car to move at different speeds.

tooter · 09-07-2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

Won't the car hit the speed limiter in 4th?

Anyway shouldn't matter, it's all calculated numbers anyway. The only true measure of power is directly off the crankshaft. The gearbox is simply a tourque multiplier to allow the car to move at different speeds.

Thanks for setting me straight, Blue.

The engine hit the limiter in 4th with both manifolds.
It just took 30 seconds to get there.

marcus · 09-07-2012, 11:41 AM

wicked!!!!!

fnkngrv · 09-07-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

Won't the car hit the speed limiter in 4th?

Anyway shouldn't matter, it's all calculated numbers anyway. The only true measure of power is directly off the crankshaft. The gearbox is simply a tourque multiplier to allow the car to move at different speeds.

I hit the limiter for 4th right now...guess boost helps a LOT

cali yaris · 09-07-2012, 12:20 PM

I think we got enough accuracy with 3rd gear pulls to be able to compare the stock part to the part we made. That's all I was after. If I just wanted the highest number possible, I would have booked a more forgiving dyno machine.

On my car, we've done 4th gear pulls -- no speed limiter, rev limiter programmable, and 3rd gear goes by pretty quickly. I did have an assumption then that 4th gear would be better for all cars, but I think I was incorrect about that being a hard rule.

fnkngrv · 09-07-2012, 12:40 PM

^ looks like that is the case. As previously stated a part like this could really be a crapshoot and in this case it was a positive result even on a car with limited mods so that is a big plus.

cali yaris · 09-07-2012, 01:52 PM

Forgot to shout out to the dyno shop - thank guys!
KT Motoring
10149 Canoga Ave. Unit 1
Chatsworth, CA 91311
747.224.0237

*tk-421* · 09-07-2012, 03:21 PM

Any chance of a 1ZZ version with nitrous ports?

thefalls · 09-07-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ I sure want to or with a Zage kit at low boost.

I think I'll throw one on my car with a 70mm TB and see what it pulls too. Let's see what 25 psi does to it.

This is going to be interesting!

Of course there will be gains over the plastic one.
Well lets find out with the boosted motors.

I better start saving!

chaditotx · 09-07-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

Yeah I observed that too on the 1NZ, perhaps it's a feature from Toyota engineers, prevent detonation in the worst possible conditions?

Thats wild. As piston speed increases the likelyhood of autoignition decreases... maybe the ecm is throwing a lot of advance at that part of the curve too.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 09-07-2012, 04:42 PM

I'm ready to buy! I can't wait to see these go on sale.

malibuguy · 09-07-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chaditotx

Thats wild. As piston speed increases the likelyhood of autoignition decreases... maybe the ecm is throwing a lot of advance at that part of the curve too.

My timing on the top end is around 24* iirc....stupid low timing if you ask me.

I used to run one oy old malibus at 15* initial and 44* total...ran awesome too

Bluevitz-rs · 09-07-2012, 07:30 PM

Yeah the timing backs way off as RPM climbs. An old acquaintance put a programmable ecu on his echo and said he added 20° of timing to the top end and gained a whack of top end power with nothing more than the regular boltons.

chaditotx · 09-07-2012, 07:37 PM

Sometimes I miss my carburetors... I wonder if there is a way to adjust the position of the crankshaft position sensor and just have the damn thing advanced 2 degrees from the get go

Bluevitz-rs · 09-07-2012, 07:41 PM

Theres absolutely no way to move the sensor but you could have a new pickup wheel made up or try and rotate it somehow.

g.q.vios · 09-07-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 4/20 NEVER FORGET

I'm ready to buy! I can't wait to see these go on sale.

chaditotx · 09-09-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I think we got enough accuracy with 3rd gear pulls to be able to compare the stock part to the part we made. That's all I was after. If I just wanted the highest number possible, I would have booked a more forgiving dyno machine.

On my car, we've done 4th gear pulls -- no speed limiter, rev limiter programmable, and 3rd gear goes by pretty quickly. I did have an assumption then that 4th gear would be better for all cars, but I think I was incorrect about that being a hard rule.

I'm feeling a bit more coming from that manifold with an exhaust, header and a cold air.... I am really excited to see what it does when it breathes on both ends.

malibuguy · 09-10-2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

Yeah the timing backs way off as RPM climbs. An old acquaintance put a programmable ecu on his echo and said he added 20° of timing to the top end and gained a whack of top end power with nothing more than the regular boltons.

i was watching my scangauge this weekend...up in the top end in boost my timing is down to around 15*...i could probably run diesel in this thing

09-07-2012, 11:41 AM	#129
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	wicked!!!!! __________________ If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits eighty-eight miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious shit!!!!!! "Horsepower is how fast you hit the object. Torque is how far you move that object.."

09-07-2012, 12:20 PM	#131
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I think we got enough accuracy with 3rd gear pulls to be able to compare the stock part to the part we made. That's all I was after. If I just wanted the highest number possible, I would have booked a more forgiving dyno machine. On my car, we've done 4th gear pulls -- no speed limiter, rev limiter programmable, and 3rd gear goes by pretty quickly. I did have an assumption then that 4th gear would be better for all cars, but I think I was incorrect about that being a hard rule. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

09-07-2012, 12:40 PM	#132
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	^ looks like that is the case. As previously stated a part like this could really be a crapshoot and in this case it was a positive result even on a car with limited mods so that is a big plus. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

09-07-2012, 01:52 PM	#133
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Forgot to shout out to the dyno shop - thank guys! KT Motoring 10149 Canoga Ave. Unit 1 Chatsworth, CA 91311 747.224.0237 __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

09-07-2012, 03:21 PM	#134
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09-07-2012, 11:20 AM	#127
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Won't the car hit the speed limiter in 4th? Anyway shouldn't matter, it's all calculated numbers anyway. The only true measure of power is directly off the crankshaft. The gearbox is simply a tourque multiplier to allow the car to move at different speeds.

09-07-2012, 04:42 PM	#137
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	I'm ready to buy! I can't wait to see these go on sale.

09-07-2012, 07:30 PM	#139
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Yeah the timing backs way off as RPM climbs. An old acquaintance put a programmable ecu on his echo and said he added 20° of timing to the top end and gained a whack of top end power with nothing more than the regular boltons.

09-07-2012, 07:37 PM	#140
chaditotx Drives: 2007 3dr hb 5sp Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antone, Tx Posts: 117	Sometimes I miss my carburetors... I wonder if there is a way to adjust the position of the crankshaft position sensor and just have the damn thing advanced 2 degrees from the get go

09-07-2012, 07:41 PM	#141
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Theres absolutely no way to move the sensor but you could have a new pickup wheel made up or try and rotate it somehow.

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