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Autoprue · 03-25-2009, 07:26 PM

This might be better on the forced induction thread but NA engines can get benefits from water/meth injection too has anyone here attempted this? If so explain some of the details ie... kits used tech info gains in performance.

whooppee777 · 03-25-2009, 09:32 PM

r u retarded?

supmet · 03-25-2009, 09:36 PM

I think he's talking about methane injection, not methamphetamine.. lol

TOUGEghost · 03-25-2009, 11:26 PM

Methane injection... is that when you fart in the intake?

yaris-me · 03-25-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TOUGEghost

Methane injection... is that when you fart in the intake?

I think he means methanol.

Nexus1155 · 03-25-2009, 11:58 PM

ummmm you really wont see any gains without amping up the spark... Slapping it on a turboed car, sure, but an N/A. without tweaking, doubt it...

supmet · 03-26-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TOUGEghost

Methane injection... is that when you fart in the intake?

now THAT is DIY

*tk-421* · 03-26-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TOUGEghost

Methane injection... is that when you fart in the intake?

Quote:

Originally Posted by supmet

now THAT is DIY

Deltasix · 03-26-2009, 01:22 AM

A humorous title proved to be too complex for most people......

He (and I for that matter) is/am wondering if anyone tried a water/meth injection system on a n/a yaris. Could work out very well and get great performance gains, granted you'll need a tuning but still...

Autoprue · 03-26-2009, 01:24 AM

Wow simple f-ing question has any one here tried water methanol injection and I get this sad shit for responses wtf. You guys need to grow up and thank you to the one guy who actually knew what I was talking about and offered some actual advice.

CASTREX · 03-26-2009, 01:31 AM

Do some reading on the Forced induction forum and soon you will find that the Yaris is stucked in the tunning department...

And with no tunning... no chance to take advantage of something like the meth injec.

Autoprue · 03-26-2009, 01:39 AM

Yeah Ive noticed these cars are like a performance dead ends unless you want to dump unbelievable amounts of money for not the worlds largest gains. Do they even make a way for you to talk to the ECU for engine management?

yaris-me · 03-26-2009, 03:00 AM

Unbelievable.

TOUGEghost · 03-26-2009, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Deltasix

A humorous title proved to be too complex for most people......

OP is the only one who gets to be funny? Lighten up. It's what happens when you ask those kinds of questions anyway.

There's minimal benefit (if any) in slapping on a water/meth injection kit on a n/a car, especially a Yaris (which the OP doesn't have anyay). It's $300 that could be much better spent elsewhere. It might possibly be useful if you had super high compression, but that brings up a whole bunch of other questions. Are you going to spend the money to build a high compression 1NZ motor? Who is going to make custom parts for you? Where are you going to get methanol from? Do you really think buying methanol all the time and filling up your little tank is easier than just using higher octane fuel? What are you going to tune it with? Are you going to spend $1500 on an AEM ecu and wire the whole thing up yourself? Are you going to have separate fuel map for the meth injection? How do you know the methanol mix is always going to be consistent and not throw off your tune? Are you going to dyno before and after and prove it's even worthwhile? I'm sure I could think of more, but you get the idea (I hope).

Autoprue · 03-26-2009, 07:25 AM

^thannks

Nexus1155 · 03-26-2009, 10:18 AM

For methanol up here we use windshield washer fluid. for like $2/gallon you get a nice mixture of water/methanol

hatchbackkid82 · 03-26-2009, 10:43 AM

Lol this is too funny

Deltasix · 03-26-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TOUGEghost

There's minimal benefit (if any) in slapping on a water/meth injection kit on a n/a car, especially a Yaris (which the OP doesn't have anyay). It's $300 that could be much better spent elsewhere. It might possibly be useful if you had super high compression, but that brings up a whole bunch of other questions. Are you going to spend the money to build a high compression 1NZ motor? Who is going to make custom parts for you? Where are you going to get methanol from? Do you really think buying methanol all the time and filling up your little tank is easier than just using higher octane fuel? What are you going to tune it with? Are you going to spend $1500 on an AEM ecu and wire the whole thing up yourself? Are you going to have separate fuel map for the meth injection? How do you know the methanol mix is always going to be consistent and not throw off your tune? Are you going to dyno before and after and prove it's even worthwhile? I'm sure I could think of more, but you get the idea (I hope).

That answers my questions pretty simply: Its unfeasible.
Thanks

03-25-2009, 07:26 PM	#1
Autoprue Drives: I dont own a Yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 17	yaris addicted to meth This might be better on the forced induction thread but NA engines can get benefits from water/meth injection too has anyone here attempted this? If so explain some of the details ie... kits used tech info gains in performance.

03-25-2009, 09:32 PM	#2
whooppee777 I used to have 1700 posts View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 808	r u retarded? __________________ *First Boosted Yaris On The East Coast*

03-26-2009, 01:22 AM	#9
Deltasix Drives: '07 Liftback: Work in Progress Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT Posts: 187	A humorous title proved to be too complex for most people...... He (and I for that matter) is/am wondering if anyone tried a water/meth injection system on a n/a yaris. Could work out very well and get great performance gains, granted you'll need a tuning but still... __________________ "The basis of optimism is sheer terror." Last edited by Deltasix; 03-26-2009 at 01:36 AM.

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03-25-2009, 11:58 PM	#6
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	ummmm you really wont see any gains without amping up the spark... Slapping it on a turboed car, sure, but an N/A. without tweaking, doubt it...

03-26-2009, 01:24 AM	#10
Autoprue Drives: I dont own a Yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 17	Wow simple f-ing question has any one here tried water methanol injection and I get this sad shit for responses wtf. You guys need to grow up and thank you to the one guy who actually knew what I was talking about and offered some actual advice.

03-26-2009, 01:31 AM	#11
CASTREX Who said Yaris was slow? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris T-Sport 2008 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 1,287	Do some reading on the Forced induction forum and soon you will find that the Yaris is stucked in the tunning department... And with no tunning... no chance to take advantage of something like the meth injec.

03-26-2009, 01:39 AM	#12
Autoprue Drives: I dont own a Yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 17	Yeah Ive noticed these cars are like a performance dead ends unless you want to dump unbelievable amounts of money for not the worlds largest gains. Do they even make a way for you to talk to the ECU for engine management?

03-26-2009, 03:00 AM	#13
yaris-me Learn to Relax Drives: 2007, Meteorite, LB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 2,070	Unbelievable.

03-26-2009, 07:25 AM	#15
Autoprue Drives: I dont own a Yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 17	^thannks

03-26-2009, 10:18 AM	#16
Nexus1155 Bathroom + Laptop = <3 Drives: Audi Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dorchester Posts: 1,009	For methanol up here we use windshield washer fluid. for like $2/gallon you get a nice mixture of water/methanol

03-26-2009, 10:43 AM	#17
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	Lol this is too funny