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Old 09-21-2010, 03:30 AM   #55
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I don't think there is such a thing as over moderating. The only people who are complaining about stuff like that are guilty of some stupid remark that generally flames. I administered several forums in the past, and while there is freedom of speech and freedom of opinions and all that, there is no room for bashing another member (flaming). Those people were gone in a hurry...forcibly.

Someone has to police forums, for sure.
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Yes, the mods do over moderate. They have their own rules as to what is fair. Other forums have much better moderators.
if they were to have been over-moderating, there are a few posts of mine that were toeing the line, that should have been "moderated", as they could have been construed as inflammatory...

case in point, my thread about light bulbs, which was a tongue in cheek statement about forum life, was never touched by the mod team...

this is, by far, the most relaxed forum i am a part of...

so to any statement that the forums are over-moderated,
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:28 AM   #56
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I've never had any issues with mods, just my ¢¢
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Mods have a hard job on any busy forum. They get bashed if they do their job, and bashed if they don't.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:21 AM   #59
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Mods have a hard job on any busy forum. They get bashed if they do their job, and bashed if they don't.
and do it voluntarily, from the goodness of their hearts, not seeing a single cent, and more often (as evidenced recently) getting more complaints than praise for their job.

So guys, give the mods a break, try to be a constructive part of this community, and see how much more pleasant YW can be!
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IMO, the people that complain about mods on forums have never actually moderated forums before, or at least not forums with a fairly large membership. Forums that don't have at least a somewhat strict staff end up being 4chan.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:49 AM   #63
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I think that we might want to go the route of Blizzard in how they are changing their forums as well as the Wall Street Journal. Your real name is shown. You wanna talk smack and not have posts deleted then step up and for lack of a better term, "be a man" and accept the consequences of what you have to say.
real names on the net are dumb, they make it far far too easy to find peoples real life info, which can lead to real life problems.
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Well they are all masochists, so they must enjoy it, right?
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IMO, the people that complain about mods on forums have never actually moderated forums before, or at least not forums with a fairly large membership. Forums that don't have at least a somewhat strict staff end up being 4chan.
Wait, is that a bad thing?

I guess my favorite forum being called Khaos Prime though might make me biased.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:09 PM   #64
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let me guess you can do better.

we are trying to accommodate everyone, and like many hve said we could have been more forceful yet we decided to let you have your freedom,and look what it gets us. Now when we have to act we have some of you that whine and complain that we are power-tripping. truth of the matter is there are some people on here that are not happy with us being mods because they want to be and they choose to create problems on the forum to try and "show everyone what bad mods we are". Our mentality on here is live and let live, but we won't tolerate open forum member/vendor/lurker/etc bashing or flaming. We try to talk the problems out before we issue a warning and bans. The rule never changed for banning, its 3 warnings and then a ban, in many other forums is an automatic ban without discussion. We give you the opportunity to defend/explain yourselves and in 90% of the cases we will disregard the warning/ban because we managed to talk it out with the affected member. Now if we delete posts there is a reason and we always try to give a concrete reason (you can it under the deleted post). Now if you want a free for all its not going to happen. Some members are spoiled and have the impression that it is their right and privilege to act like they have no manners or that they can say anything without the consequences. If you don't like the way its done no one is forcing anyone to participate in the discussions , that is your choice not ours. If you want to be a mod ask the owners of the forum
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:28 PM   #65
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everyone just shut up and follow what the mods ask
if they are being a little brash pm them. we really dont need this kind of stuff on yarisworld. Unity is essential in here
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:34 PM   #66
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Wait, is that a bad thing?

I guess my favorite forum being called Khaos Prime though might make me biased.
While I'm glad that there are places like 4chan where you can do whatever you want however you want, I don't want everywhere (or even most places) on the Internet to be like that. I'm glad that there are rules here, and at the forum I currently moderate and the ones I have in the past I've always been pretty tight on the rules.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:52 PM   #67
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Yes, the mods do over moderate. They have their own rules as to what is fair. Other forums have much better moderators.
Not the majority of forums I've been to. I think the YW mods have this balancing act just about right.
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Not the majority of forums I've been to. I think the YW mods have this balancing act just about right.
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OK, here we go again... pffffff.....

Those of you who feel this forum sucks and the mods suck, etc., etc., I have one answer for you: don't log in to this forum. Go on Craigslist's rant and rave (for example) and tell the whole word how much we all suck and see if anyone will listen. Or grow a pair and start up your own website and/or forum and see what it really takes to moderate a website and/or a forum, let alone a forum this size.

In the meantime, when you're here at YW, we ask that you refrain from poisoning the atmosphere for the rest of the members. We just won't tolerate it anymore.

Some of you may think this is a power trip. Call it what you like, doesn't matter. We just won't tolerate members creating a negative atmosphere in here and spoiling it for everybody else.
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let me guess you can do better.

we are trying to accommodate everyone, and like many hve said we could have been more forceful yet we decided to let you have your freedom,and look what it gets us. Now when we have to act we have some of you that whine and complain that we are power-tripping. truth of the matter is there are some people on here that are not happy with us being mods because they want to be and they choose to create problems on the forum to try and "show everyone what bad mods we are". Our mentality on here is live and let live, but we won't tolerate open forum member/vendor/lurker/etc bashing or flaming. We try to talk the problems out before we issue a warning and bans. The rule never changed for banning, its 3 warnings and then a ban, in many other forums is an automatic ban without discussion. We give you the opportunity to defend/explain yourselves and in 90% of the cases we will disregard the warning/ban because we managed to talk it out with the affected member. Now if we delete posts there is a reason and we always try to give a concrete reason (you can it under the deleted post). Now if you want a free for all its not going to happen. Some members are spoiled and have the impression that it is their right and privilege to act like they have no manners or that they can say anything without the consequences. If you don't like the way its done no one is forcing anyone to participate in the discussions , that is your choice not ours. If you want to be a mod ask the owners of the forum

Well, said, PK.

But I don't think they're gonna give mod privilege to peeps who do nothing but stir up shit all the time.
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