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11-02-2011, 10:13 PM | #19 |
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ABS brakes don't work as well in the snow in any car. It is meant to stop on a smoother surface where it the still spinning wheels can grip the grooves in the road. In snow or gravel, you WANT the wheels to stop spinning so it digs into the loose snow. I've never done it, but it's supposed to be easy to take out the ABS fuse.
I drive in Canada and i cannot agree more with the winter tire assessment. I've never had a product in ANY industry impress me more with the difference it made. I thought the winter tire stuff might have been a little overhyped but man, they are excellent. |
11-05-2011, 08:02 PM | #20 |
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I also got some stud less snow tires last winter and they work very well
forget chains and studs these special compound snow tires are really magic no hype, mine are observe mud and snow tires by Toyo . |
11-08-2011, 09:52 PM | #21 |
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Yaris/snow
Park it in the garage, and pull out the 4x4 truck with the big knobby tires. And then laugh and wave at all the little cars stuck in the snow as you blow by them!
Bonus points: Yell at them "Git outta the way!!!" That's my plan, and I'm sticking to it. |
11-10-2011, 05:37 PM | #22 |
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Be very gentle on your brakes and gas until you're used to your rubber. It'll give you nasty understeer, and if you get it back expect the back end to swing out.
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11-15-2011, 02:53 PM | #23 |
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last snow storm wiped out my driver side splash shield and all clips..
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11-15-2011, 03:06 PM | #24 |
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2 years ago when I still had my IHC Scout II, I had to make grooves for a echo and a xb that were stuck in a parking lot, lol. turns out 12.5 inch wide tires are good for something! that thing was beastly in the snow.
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11-15-2011, 10:03 PM | #25 |
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My current winter plan is to drive the '89 Toyota All-Trac. Being all wheel (on demand) drive it kicks ass. BUT, no cruise control, no 40+ mpg (30+ though), not as good as audio, but it DOES have roll down windows in the back, so it is the prefered ride of Ted the Dog. You can see him in the morning watching as I decide which rig we'll be aking: if it's the old red All Tac he about pisses due to excitement. We are known for no matter how bad the weather, the rear windows are DOWN. Being 1,000' above the valley 4x4 isn't just "nice" for me, it's a gotta have. A lot of times I'll be coming home late at night and the snow will be deep enough (the county plows only in the AM after a storm) that ground clearance is a major factor, and I'm afraid that even with the best dedicated winter tire once high centered it'd be all over with the Yaris! Plus the All-Trac has the older boat hooks on all four corners if worse comes to worse. I paid 600 bucks for it 3 years ago, and can't kill it, in fact one of the reason I bought my Yaris was to NOT drive the All-Trac except for when absolutely needed so as to extend it's usefull life.
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11-16-2011, 12:09 AM | #26 | |
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If you stand on the brake pedal, the ABS is kicking in constantly many times a second. If you pump the brake pedal, ABS only kicks in when you're apply pressure. When you're not applying pressure, ABS is not unlocking the wheels because there's no braking pressure, because they're not braking. So you're going from many pulsations per second, second after consequtive second, to many pulsations for every alternating 1/4 second at best. Even though ABS isn't the fastest way to stop a car in deep snow, not stepping on the brake pedal is far wosre. Winter tires FTW.
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11-16-2011, 07:51 AM | #27 |
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ITS under 40 degree tires!!! GET IT RIGHT....
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11-16-2011, 11:26 AM | #28 |
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Bottom line, nobody can tell you have to drive any car in snow. One simply has to have a feel for theircar/tires, for the road conditions and know the limits of its traction.
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one thing that Michelin doesn't advertise is that their Xi2 is actually an entry level winter tire. they are for the person that rather drive on good winter days and want a quiet winter tire. In my area we need something a lot more aggressive. but in the end they are much better then an all season. |
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11-16-2011, 11:55 PM | #30 |
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Although you're technically right, it's semantics to the general population.
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11-17-2011, 08:20 AM | #31 |
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I just LOVE busting BARBER'S balls thats all....
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11-17-2011, 01:25 PM | #32 | |
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a) entry level ? this is Michelin -only- studless winter tire that will fits 14 inch rims, and it gets rave reviews (and from me too) b) there is no compromise in this tire except hydroplaning. My yaris climbed the hell out of steep 13 and 14deg hills coated with powder, packed powder, packed wet snow, and ice spots. traction control only kicked in a tiny bit, the rest was all grip grip grip and it drove around extremely well c) ya I think in a different post I did say if you are constantly on snow, such as Canada, get something else, like a blizzak. Michelin are great for occasional 1 or 2 weeks of snow, 5-8 times a year, the rest of time dry roads ...but the tread will last longer than any other winter tire...this is a good point here d) that nokian M+S vs Michelin M+S. that model nokian will hydroplane on you in conditions a Michelin Harmony M+S won't. people use M+S the most hours they drive a car. and Michelin tires are hands down the best engineered for what I do anyway...my driving is a ton of 80mph in all weather. don't need to hydroplane and I never do with Michelins M+S (xice do hydroplane so I slow down to 65 when using those in the wet) if I can clarify I mean: any M+S Michelin with large circumferential grooves is the best tire...period. and yes they can do extremly well in snow vs any other M+S -and- last a long time. I need to add 'last a long time' and also 'Michelins stay round longest of any tire' no one can make a better carcass than Michelin. other tires will develop warps or flat spots under conditions Michelin tires just laugh at e) yes there are a dozen excellent tires and depending on where you live and how you drive can dictate what tire is best. no one tire will work for everyone. Michelin xice defy physics though...they have insane grip but they look like they don't...appearance-wise. stick them on some rims and stick them on a car and put that car on ice and snow and stand back...they only lack in the hydroplaning department... and on wet tar they can be made to slip if you are extra aggressive. |
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let me re-clarify
c) ya I think in a different post I did say if you are constantly on snow, such as Canada, get something else, like a blizzak. Michelin are great for occasional 1 or 2 weeks of snow, 5-8 times a year, the rest of time dry roads ...but the tread will last longer than any other winter tire...this is a good point here what I mean by this is: Michelin would be fine in the arctic. snow 24x7x365 if you want. it just lacks at hydroplaning, and that translates to lacks at pushing slush. nothing dangerous, and you can certainly drive just fine at normal speeds...but other winter tires let you drive above the speed limits on crappy conditions if that is your fancy....if you are constantly in a place where pushing wet slush is the norm, you might want something else. but where the slush periods are short and few, these rock the house since I will have more dry-road miles on the xice, like many in the US, the Michelins rule because they have a long tire tread warranty and the tread can survive many more miles on dry winter roads than any other studless snow tire sold today |
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^^ what he said....
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I don't quite know exactly why but it must have something to do with size/weight of this car. -toy
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