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07typeS · 06-29-2012, 05:43 PM

You know you've done things right when your air filter is almost as large as your battery haha..

And Id have to imagine that the size of the filter definitely played a part in the sound.. I know when I went from the Dragon set up to a k&n with a little more surface area, it had a deeper growl.. It was definitely a pleasant surprise..

bladesmith6 · 06-29-2012, 05:56 PM

Yeah I mentioned that you were going to have to cut your intake pipe down, I had to do the same thing with mine. I do think that the larger filter has added just a bit more growl though especially since I still have the stock muffler( i need to do something about that) I think it pulls harder now but maybe that is just in my head.

tooter · 06-29-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tk-421

That cone filter fills that space really well.

Still got an OEM throttle body? You may want to swap it out for a compatible one that is perhaps less restrictive... 2¢

I'm happy with the stock one as I'm more of an economy driver than a high performance guy. Although it's lots of fun experimenting with flow design, both my wife and I basically drive the car like it's stock.

tooter · 06-29-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 07typeS

You know you've done things right when your air filter is almost as large as your battery haha..

And Id have to imagine that the size of the filter definitely played a part in the sound.. I know when I went from the Dragon set up to a k&n with a little more surface area, it had a deeper growl.. It was definitely a pleasant surprise..

This one has no growl at all, and I'm not really sure why. There's sure no lack of filter surface area as that same filter will flow a big block V8 with a 4 inch intake!

I'm wondering if it is the really large super smooth velocity stack. I'll have to try making a video of the engine running with the stack alone just to find out. The filter element pops right off and on with just one simple screwband, while leaving everything else in place. That's what I really like about the design. Cleaning the filter will be a snap, and the element makes a perfect seal with the stack.

tooter · 06-29-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bladesmith6

Yeah I mentioned that you were going to have to cut your intake pipe down, I had to do the same thing with mine. I do think that the larger filter has added just a bit more growl though especially since I still have the stock muffler( i need to do something about that) I think it pulls harder now but maybe that is just in my head.

Yeah, reality set in quickly the minute I stuck the filter under the hood. My exhaust already growls so I can't tell!

Basically half of the 90 degree on the intake is chopped off. I was concerned about the super short distance from the filter intake to the MAF sensor setting off the check engine light. But it's working perfectly fine.

It's possible that the large smooth taper on the velocity stack isn't introducing any turbulence, so the MAF sensor is getting undisturbed readings even being just a few inches away.

Can't wait to do a dyno run. The engine is basically stock so the numbers will be unimpressive to be sure, but what I'm more interested in is the relative difference between the stock manifold and my craazy homemade concoction.

Oh, and I'll be sure to do videos of the dyno runs!

*tk-421* · 06-29-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tooter

I'm happy with the stock one as I'm more of an economy driver than a high performance guy. Although it's lots of fun experimenting with flow design, both my wife and I basically drive the car like it's stock.

Something tells me the newly added growl will inexplicably make your feet heavier...

Your setup is very close to what I want to do with my car, so you bet I'll be watching that dyno chart very closely regardless of our different driving style/conditions.

tooter · 06-30-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tk-421

Something tells me the newly added growl will inexplicably make your feet heavier...

I did drive 100 freeway miles today to make sure the engine was broken in enough for the dyno runs next week. Lots of 70 to 80+ mph. Flat out runs, one made it to 97mph. Let's face it, these cars are gutless!

You can put your foot to the floor and time the acceleration with a calendar. The car exhaust sounds great, but nothing much is actually happening. I ride a motorcycle so I'm spoiled for performance.

What did suprize me is that the average mileage for the trip, even with half of it very heavy footed driving, was still an excellent 39.9 mpg.

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Your setup is very close to what I want to do with my car, so you bet I'll be watching that dyno chart very closely regardless of our different driving style/conditions.

As will I.

This dyno is just for the baseline so it won't be very exciting. I expect about 90 to 92WHP tops...

...and hope that the second set of runs are better than the first.

cali yaris · 06-30-2012, 02:01 AM

90-92 would mean no gains, or even a bit of a loss, from existing "baseline" mods.

BEEF · 06-30-2012, 08:11 AM

I am hoping that your dyno will be 100-105 as you have an intake, axle back, and header. this is similar to where I plan to end up as well. hopefully in about 2 months or so.

very interested in the intake manifold and what gains you see.

tooter · 06-30-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

90-92 would mean no gains, or even a bit of a loss, from existing "baseline" mods.

Well, it sure ~feels~ like it only has 90 to 92 horsepower.

But that's not a complaint, just an observation. I've always owned little cheap fun economy cars, because that's what I like to drive.

tooter · 06-30-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BEEF

I am hoping that your dyno will be 100-105 as you have an intake, axle back, and header. this is similar to where I plan to end up as well. hopefully in about 2 months or so.

I'll find out this week. That's the fun of this... finding out.

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very interested in the intake manifold and what gains you see.

Same here. The bling factor is far more likely to exceed the performance factor.

Bluevitz-rs · 06-30-2012, 01:07 PM

The slow car feeling is in the weight. Putting the car on a diet makes a big difference.

Golddeenoh · 06-30-2012, 01:33 PM

^ agreed, my car hit 117mph like a little champ the other day (coming to the top of 4th gear) and that was before taking the seats out. And after the seats are out it feels lighter and a little quicker. But I have also changed out to Royal Purple performance motor oil, E3 spark plugs and have 36k miles on it so it is well broken in, plus the signature mods listed below. I'm hoping to have that magical 107whp but I will need to take it to a dyno to be sure of that.

1.5 · 06-30-2012, 02:37 PM

Hell yeah gutted out makes a huge difference. I took out close to 100 lbs of interior

malibuguy · 06-30-2012, 02:39 PM

My sedan gets to over 100mph with not much effort...

tooter · 06-30-2012, 03:05 PM

I have to admit that the 97 was on an upgrade. I do believe that it could do 100 on the flat... if I had enough time to get there.

cali yaris · 06-30-2012, 03:15 PM

I wonder what my 0-100 is...

tooter · 06-30-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

I wonder what my 0-100 is...

I use a calendar to time mine...

Do you have any tips for making a good accurate dyno run? What's the best tire pressure for the rollers?

06-29-2012, 05:43 PM	#127
07typeS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 White Toyota Yaris Type S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 439	You know you've done things right when your air filter is almost as large as your battery haha.. And Id have to imagine that the size of the filter definitely played a part in the sound.. I know when I went from the Dragon set up to a k&n with a little more surface area, it had a deeper growl.. It was definitely a pleasant surprise.. __________________ TRD Springs w/ KYB Struts and Shocks, Custom CAI w/ K&N filter and pre filter wrap, Weapon R Header, Stock 15 inch alloys, Dezod Performance pads, Tanabe Front Strut Bar, 35% front door Tint and 20% Rear doors back Tint, De-Badged Ass, Custom painted flat black interior, Pioneer deh-p6700bt w/ IPOD hookup, Infinity components up front with custom mounted tweeter, Inifinity 6x9's out back, 1 12" kicker comp cvr........

06-30-2012, 02:01 AM	#134
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	90-92 would mean no gains, or even a bit of a loss, from existing "baseline" mods. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

06-30-2012, 08:11 AM	#135
BEEF View User's Garage Drives: 2008 yaris 3d Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 732	I am hoping that your dyno will be 100-105 as you have an intake, axle back, and header. this is similar to where I plan to end up as well. hopefully in about 2 months or so. very interested in the intake manifold and what gains you see. __________________ Be the change you wish to see in the world -Mahatma Gandhi-

06-30-2012, 01:33 PM	#139
Golddeenoh Takes corners too fast! View User's Garage Drives: Absolute Red 2009 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 830	^ agreed, my car hit 117mph like a little champ the other day (coming to the top of 4th gear) and that was before taking the seats out. And after the seats are out it feels lighter and a little quicker. But I have also changed out to Royal Purple performance motor oil, E3 spark plugs and have 36k miles on it so it is well broken in, plus the signature mods listed below. I'm hoping to have that magical 107whp but I will need to take it to a dyno to be sure of that. __________________ mods:15''Drag DR21 w/Nitto NeoGen 205/50R15, Tanabe DF210 lowering springs 1.6/1.8, TRD Rear Sway Bar, Tanabe Front Sway Bar, Micro Image Short Throw Shift Kit (both in and under), 8.64lbs flywheel, F1 Stage 4 Clutch, AEM Cold Air Intake (Red), Megan Racing Header, DC Sports Axle Back Exhaust, Micro Image Crank Pulley, NST lite Alternator Pulley, ARP Manifold Stud Kit,Tanabe Front Strut Tower Brace, ScanGuage II, Micro Image Silicone Radiator Hose Kit (Red), NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob (round), 2009-2011 Toyota Yaris Liftback Foglight kit, NRG Grounding Kit (Red), Hella Horns(Red),CF Hood

06-30-2012, 02:37 PM	#140
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06-29-2012, 05:56 PM	#128
bladesmith6 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 yaris HB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 394	Yeah I mentioned that you were going to have to cut your intake pipe down, I had to do the same thing with mine. I do think that the larger filter has added just a bit more growl though especially since I still have the stock muffler( i need to do something about that) I think it pulls harder now but maybe that is just in my head.

06-30-2012, 01:07 PM	#138
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	The slow car feeling is in the weight. Putting the car on a diet makes a big difference.

06-30-2012, 02:39 PM	#141
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06-30-2012, 03:05 PM	#142
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,961	I have to admit that the 97 was on an upgrade. I do believe that it could do 100 on the flat... if I had enough time to get there.

06-30-2012, 03:15 PM	#143
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I wonder what my 0-100 is... __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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