Know Your Roots - Toyota Yaris Forums

Ran Kizama · 07-26-2006, 02:44 PM

1970 Toyota Yaris

Displacement: 600cc
Transmission: CVT
Drive train: FR or RR
Approximate Cost: $550

www.toyota-yaris.net <- Wrong

Not quite, but nice try.

Henshin · 07-26-2006, 03:36 PM

that's hot.

oktaren · 07-26-2006, 03:40 PM

nice!

Thirty-Nine · 07-26-2006, 04:10 PM

That is not a 1970 Yaris. First off, it's left-hand drive, so it isn't a Japanese Domestic Market car. Second, it's got a European-style front plate holder. I think it's a Fiat or something. It looks very similar to a Fiat 600, but it isn't. I'll keep researching. I'm 99% sure that's no Toyota.

Ran Kizama · 07-26-2006, 04:46 PM

I got the pic and info from toyota-yaris.net. Also, so it's LHD with a European Styled Plate. Europe didn't import cars in the 1970's?

Looking at this pic of a 1974 Corolla, I'm pointing out the front badge and the European Styled Plate. Looks a lot like one in the Yaris pic. Keep in mine that old Civic also looked a lot like a VW Rabbit so just because it looks European, doesn't make it European. Although, it does look a lot like a Fiat Abarth.

Then again, I could be wrong completely. I'm basing this thread off of that info I found and thought you guys would enjoy.

Thirty-Nine · 07-26-2006, 04:57 PM

Remember: The only country that is right-hand drive in Europe is the U.K. The rest of the continent is left-hand drive, like us.

That style is definately condusive with 1950s/1960s European cars. Early Japanese cars didn't typically look like that.

ECHOKnight2000 · 07-26-2006, 04:57 PM

I have to question the source you got it from...first off the first gen Yaris started for 2000 model year, I don't think it has any lineage before 2000...but I could be wrong...there have only been 2 gens obviously the current is the second gen...sure maybe it had cars that filled the spot it does in the past but I don't think they have any link to each other, other than what class they were in

Idjiit · 07-26-2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

That style is definately condusive with 1950s/1960s European cars. Early Japanese cars didn't typically look like that.

They didn't?

VidKidz · 07-26-2006, 05:44 PM

That Subaru looks like a cross between the Popemobile and an old VW Bug.

Sp33dY · 07-26-2006, 06:41 PM

Some of you really dont know your roots.!!! http://www.toyota-yaris.net/gallery/ IS INCORRECT - the admin should be Punished!, there was no such thing as a Toyota "YARIS" prior to 1999.

As the name suggests, YARIS was named yaris as they were manufactured for most of Europe in Toyota Frances Factory -> Paris/Yaris ... get it? Some of the Left hand drive yarises in the UK were made in France, and some came from Japan. Place of manufacture can be determined by some of the letters on the VIN plate.

Prior to the Vitz/Yaris/Belta (NCP91) as all you U.S. guys know it as, there was the Yaris/Vitz/Echo (NCP13,15) amongst other variants which were released from 1999. The current model Yaris is known as the Yaris worldwide apart from Vitz in Japan, becuase it sounds more 'European' and was supposed to be a better name according to toyota marketing strategists.

Prior to the NCP13/15, there was the Starlet/Glanza - which were all 1.3L, in NA and turbo form. Starlets date back to the early 1980s when they were RWD.

Chaad32 · 07-26-2006, 06:46 PM

Looks like a Fiat to me.

swng · 07-26-2006, 06:51 PM

In the sixties/seventies, very few cars had CVT. One of such was called DAF (or made by DAF, I am not sure), manufactured in Holland, as far as I can remember.
I have seen some very interesting pictures on this thread anyway.

Thirty-Nine · 07-26-2006, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idjiit

They didn't?

I figured someone would post a Subaru 360. Okay, so there were a few Japanese cars that looked like this.

as400g33k · 07-26-2006, 09:58 PM

looks like Luigi from Cars...

ECHOKnight2000 · 07-26-2006, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp33dY

Some of you really dont know your roots.!!! http://www.toyota-yaris.net/gallery/ IS INCORRECT - the admin should be Punished!, there was no such thing as a Toyota "YARIS" prior to 1999.

As the name suggests, YARIS was named yaris as they were manufactured for most of Europe in Toyota Frances Factory -> Paris/Yaris ... get it? Some of the Left hand drive yarises in the UK were made in France, and some came from Japan. Place of manufacture can be determined by some of the letters on the VIN plate.

Prior to the Vitz/Yaris/Belta (NCP91) as all you U.S. guys know it as, there was the Yaris/Vitz/Echo (NCP13,15) amongst other variants which were released from 1999. The current model Yaris is known as the Yaris worldwide apart from Vitz in Japan, becuase it sounds more 'European' and was supposed to be a better name according to toyota marketing strategists.

Prior to the NCP13/15, there was the Starlet/Glanza - which were all 1.3L, in NA and turbo form. Starlets date back to the early 1980s when they were RWD.

Here's a link along the lines of what you were saying with the name Yaris...Toyota has a history of making up names, taking existing ones and create a new one or just come up something out of their ass (a fine one I might add too

). I know I've seen this info in other reviews, but read the third paragraph in that "pre-view" link.
It explains where the name Yaris came from, no Car and Driver aren't the car gods but this has nothing to do with them, just the info they got from Toyota, trusting its right. http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ota-yaris.html
But as I mentioned before you are right, there was no such thing as a Yaris before 1999/2000 model year.

Thirty-Nine · 07-26-2006, 10:38 PM

Well, I figured out what car the "1970 Yaris" really is:

a Zaporozhets ZAZ 965.

It was a Russin-made car and they apprently copied the Fiat 600 for the design (at least according to the "all-knowing" Wikipedia.

)

johnnyfive · 07-27-2006, 12:31 AM

nice work there thirty nine

that is a pretty slick little car,think i want one ;)

tsakali_gr · 07-27-2006, 02:24 AM

The Toyota Vitz, Toyota Echo hatchback, and Toyota Yaris hatchback are the current models of a small subcompact car in Japan launched by Toyota in 1999. Vitz is the name used in Japan for 3 and 5 door hatchbacks. In Europe and the Americas, it is sold as the Yaris. The vehicle was known as the Echo until 2005 in Canada and 2006 in the United States.

The name Vitz came from German word witz, which means "wit," "witticism," or "gag" in English. The name Yaris combines the German expression "ja," which is similar in meaning to "yes," with Charis, a Greek goddess who symbolized beauty and elegance.[1] Coincidentally the chief designer for the Yaris is Greek.

The Yaris went on sale in Europe early in 1999. After the freshening of the European Yaris hatchback in February 2003, a slightly modified version went on sale in Canada for the 2004 model year as the Echo hatchback, but the hatchback was not sold in the United States, where the Toyota Echo sedan was the lone model

Toyota released the second generation Vitz in Japan in 2004, while the Fun Cargo was replaced by the Ractis in October 2005.

The European, Australasian, Mexican and Canadian markets saw the second generation Yaris at the end of 2005. In the Australian and North American markets the car was sold as "Yaris" for the first time. The production North American 2007 Toyota Yaris was unveiled at the Los Angeles Auto Show in January 2006.

So as assumed and stated by others in previous posts, the first ever Yaris appeared in 1999. One last point: since there is not such a thing as "original" concept in terms of car design, since every new model has it's own influence from previous generation cars, maybe some cars in the past could be "associated" with Yaris, but they were not a Yaris!!

Cheers!!

07-26-2006, 02:44 PM	#1
Ran Kizama That Anime Guy View User's Garage Drives: 5-Speed Liftback Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 543	1970 Yaris? Debunked. 1970 Toyota Yaris Displacement: 600cc Transmission: CVT Drive train: FR or RR Approximate Cost: $550 www.toyota-yaris.net <- Wrong Not quite, but nice try. __________________ Last edited by Ran Kizama; 07-27-2006 at 07:09 AM.

07-26-2006, 04:10 PM	#4
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	That is not a 1970 Yaris. First off, it's left-hand drive, so it isn't a Japanese Domestic Market car. Second, it's got a European-style front plate holder. I think it's a Fiat or something. It looks very similar to a Fiat 600, but it isn't. I'll keep researching. I'm 99% sure that's no Toyota. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog Last edited by Thirty-Nine; 07-26-2006 at 04:33 PM.

07-26-2006, 04:46 PM	#5
Ran Kizama That Anime Guy View User's Garage Drives: 5-Speed Liftback Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 543	I got the pic and info from toyota-yaris.net. Also, so it's LHD with a European Styled Plate. Europe didn't import cars in the 1970's? Looking at this pic of a 1974 Corolla, I'm pointing out the front badge and the European Styled Plate. Looks a lot like one in the Yaris pic. Keep in mine that old Civic also looked a lot like a VW Rabbit so just because it looks European, doesn't make it European. Although, it does look a lot like a Fiat Abarth. Then again, I could be wrong completely. I'm basing this thread off of that info I found and thought you guys would enjoy. __________________

07-26-2006, 04:57 PM	#6
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	Remember: The only country that is right-hand drive in Europe is the U.K. The rest of the continent is left-hand drive, like us. That style is definately condusive with 1950s/1960s European cars. Early Japanese cars didn't typically look like that. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

07-26-2006, 04:57 PM	#7
ECHOKnight2000 Small Car Lover View User's Garage Drives: A Super Car Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota, US of A! Posts: 830	I have to question the source you got it from...first off the first gen Yaris started for 2000 model year, I don't think it has any lineage before 2000...but I could be wrong...there have only been 2 gens obviously the current is the second gen...sure maybe it had cars that filled the spot it does in the past but I don't think they have any link to each other, other than what class they were in __________________ You may look good on the beach but in reality you're a pompus, egotistical jerk. "I was never on the beach with you..."and you never will.

07-26-2006, 03:36 PM	#2
Henshin a go-go! Drives: Silver 07 HB - 5spd Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 48	that's hot.

07-26-2006, 03:40 PM	#3
oktaren Drives: 07yarisliftback04aveohatchback Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: western ny Posts: 40	nice!

07-26-2006, 05:44 PM	#9
VidKidz Drives: 1997 VW GTI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Posts: 7	That Subaru looks like a cross between the Popemobile and an old VW Bug.

07-26-2006, 06:41 PM	#10
Sp33dY www.OZTOYOTA.com Drives: Toyota Echo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: VIC, Australia Posts: 239	Some of you really dont know your roots.!!! http://www.toyota-yaris.net/gallery/ IS INCORRECT - the admin should be Punished!, there was no such thing as a Toyota "YARIS" prior to 1999. As the name suggests, YARIS was named yaris as they were manufactured for most of Europe in Toyota Frances Factory -> Paris/Yaris ... get it? Some of the Left hand drive yarises in the UK were made in France, and some came from Japan. Place of manufacture can be determined by some of the letters on the VIN plate. Prior to the Vitz/Yaris/Belta (NCP91) as all you U.S. guys know it as, there was the Yaris/Vitz/Echo (NCP13,15) amongst other variants which were released from 1999. The current model Yaris is known as the Yaris worldwide apart from Vitz in Japan, becuase it sounds more 'European' and was supposed to be a better name according to toyota marketing strategists. Prior to the NCP13/15, there was the Starlet/Glanza - which were all 1.3L, in NA and turbo form. Starlets date back to the early 1980s when they were RWD. __________________ www.oztoyota.com - Australian Toyota ECHO and YARIS Club

07-26-2006, 06:46 PM	#11
Chaad32 Drives: 2007 Liftback Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 334	Looks like a Fiat to me. __________________ 2007 Liftback Blazing Blue Cold Weather, Convenience Package, Arm Rest, Floor mats, Weathertech vent visors

07-26-2006, 06:51 PM	#12
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	In the sixties/seventies, very few cars had CVT. One of such was called DAF (or made by DAF, I am not sure), manufactured in Holland, as far as I can remember. I have seen some very interesting pictures on this thread anyway.

07-26-2006, 09:58 PM	#14
as400g33k Drives: 05 YRS Silver Lining Metallic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 249	looks like Luigi from Cars...

07-26-2006, 10:38 PM	#16
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	Well, I figured out what car the "1970 Yaris" really is: a Zaporozhets ZAZ 965. It was a Russin-made car and they apprently copied the Fiat 600 for the design (at least according to the "all-knowing" Wikipedia.) __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

07-27-2006, 12:31 AM	#17
johnnyfive Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 582	nice work there thirty nine that is a pretty slick little car,think i want one ;)

07-27-2006, 02:24 AM	#18
tsakali_gr Drives: Toyota Yaris T-Sport 1.8 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greece Posts: 16	The Toyota Vitz, Toyota Echo hatchback, and Toyota Yaris hatchback are the current models of a small subcompact car in Japan launched by Toyota in 1999. Vitz is the name used in Japan for 3 and 5 door hatchbacks. In Europe and the Americas, it is sold as the Yaris. The vehicle was known as the Echo until 2005 in Canada and 2006 in the United States. The name Vitz came from German word witz, which means "wit," "witticism," or "gag" in English. The name Yaris combines the German expression "ja," which is similar in meaning to "yes," with Charis, a Greek goddess who symbolized beauty and elegance.[1] Coincidentally the chief designer for the Yaris is Greek. The Yaris went on sale in Europe early in 1999. After the freshening of the European Yaris hatchback in February 2003, a slightly modified version went on sale in Canada for the 2004 model year as the Echo hatchback, but the hatchback was not sold in the United States, where the Toyota Echo sedan was the lone model Toyota released the second generation Vitz in Japan in 2004, while the Fun Cargo was replaced by the Ractis in October 2005. The European, Australasian, Mexican and Canadian markets saw the second generation Yaris at the end of 2005. In the Australian and North American markets the car was sold as "Yaris" for the first time. The production North American 2007 Toyota Yaris was unveiled at the Los Angeles Auto Show in January 2006. So as assumed and stated by others in previous posts, the first ever Yaris appeared in 1999. One last point: since there is not such a thing as "original" concept in terms of car design, since every new model has it's own influence from previous generation cars, maybe some cars in the past could be "associated" with Yaris, but they were not a Yaris!! Cheers!!