Is it worth what it says? - Toyota Yaris Forums

msfire671 · 06-18-2010, 12:00 AM

So I was looking online for a new intake..came across this item...

can anyone edumacate me on this?

looks kinda cool if you ask me.

http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/Sup...tage-2/548722/

eTiMaGo · 06-18-2010, 12:11 AM

lol ask tk-421 about it ahahahahah

SilverBack · 06-18-2010, 12:59 AM

Something about the "universal product" name is telling me it's a scam. I'd Google for some current users of it and see what they think so far.

firebob · 06-18-2010, 08:33 AM

Do you feel that they can design a fan that can make boast when it is on but be free flowing when it is turned off?

Would you get consentient power out of a one speed fan?

Do you think the computer would be able to handle the added air?

Bluevitz-rs · 06-18-2010, 09:48 AM

This thing draws 30W of power @ 14.2V. That isn't enough to do anything but put a restriction in your intake and a load on your alternator.

*Astroman* · 06-18-2010, 10:37 AM

scam

xen555 · 06-19-2010, 12:22 AM

its a scam!!! electric supercharger lol this is the real use...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-...#ht_1368wt_754

streetbeat
Listing Price: $299.99
Selling Price: $239.99
You save: $60.00

ebaymotors
Price: US $22.95

but now if you wanna try it
You save: $217.04

Stove · 06-19-2010, 03:53 AM

Don't waste your money.

Products like this have been around for decades and have been proven to be complete crap every time. The way I see it, if it really worked and gave some (any) measurable gains some of the auto makers would be installing them.

Read the add carefully,
"Not only does the Stage 2 Supercharger produce 900CF of forced air into your engine when turned on".
What the heck is "CF". It sure isn't CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute). Maybe it's Cubic Feet per Lunar Cycle. And at what pressure? None, I'll bet.

As a reference, turbos that are appropriately sized for our 1.5 liter engine (Garret T25/T28) will, at most, force around 400 to 450 cubic feet per minute of air into your engine (CFM) at 6 or more PSI.

Besides, any time one of the selling points is "Performance sound from engine bay", you know its crap.

ddongbap · 06-19-2010, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stove

Don't waste your money.

Products like this have been around for decades and have been proven to be complete crap every time. The way I see it, if it really worked and gave some (any) measurable gains some of the auto makers would be installing them.

Read the add carefully,
"Not only does the Stage 2 Supercharger produce 900CF of forced air into your engine when turned on".
What the heck is "CF". It sure isn't CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute). Maybe it's Cubic Feet per Lunar Cycle. And at what pressure? None, I'll bet.

As a reference, turbos that are appropriately sized for our 1.5 liter engine (Garret T25/T28) will, at most, force around 400 to 450 cubic feet per minute of air into your engine (CFM) at 6 or more PSI.

Besides, any time one of the selling points is "Performance sound from engine bay", you know its crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No_kbFvG_S4

Bluevitz-rs · 06-19-2010, 03:17 PM

^Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

severous01 · 06-19-2010, 09:51 PM

hahaha.....maybe enough at idle...

there's a guy with a real supercharger out there that's electric. uses 6 batteries and supplies over 50psi of boost for short bursts...IE, a quarter mile. he made it with 3 starters, 6 batteries, and i believe it's a vacuum cleaner motor....maybe a roots style charger idk...it's on a miata i believe, or a rx7

CarBob08 · 06-19-2010, 10:32 PM

Back in the day (I just love saying that) as a senior project for college, I designed an electric supercharger system. Here is how it worked out... NOT GOOD. It would take ~100+volt DC motor at about 50 amps to produce enough air flow to get anywhere close to a volumetric efficiency of a real turbo or supercharger. These electric systems are all scams from what I have seen. Save your money for a nice dinner somewhere, you'll be much better off.

06-18-2010, 12:00 AM	#1
msfire671 ONE LOVE...YARiS LOVE!!! View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 671 Posts: 243	Is it worth what it says? So I was looking online for a new intake..came across this item... can anyone edumacate me on this? looks kinda cool if you ask me. http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/Sup...tage-2/548722/

06-18-2010, 12:11 AM	#2
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	lol ask tk-421 about it ahahahahah __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

06-18-2010, 12:59 AM	#3
SilverBack Joey View User's Garage Drives: '14 Scion xD 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: El Monte, Ca Posts: 3,529	Something about the "universal product" name is telling me it's a scam. I'd Google for some current users of it and see what they think so far. __________________ Formerly owned Met-Met. '07 Yaris LB 5-speed. A forum post should be like a skirt: Long enough to cover the subject but short enough to keep things interesting. "I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem." -Hank Hill

06-18-2010, 08:33 AM	#4
firebob Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 236	Do you feel that they can design a fan that can make boast when it is on but be free flowing when it is turned off? Would you get consentient power out of a one speed fan? Do you think the computer would be able to handle the added air? __________________ 09, 3 door lift back, auto. I live on the road with my wife. We travel as needed for our work and drive up to 4,500 miles in a bad week.

06-18-2010, 10:37 AM	#6
Astroman Modded Moderator View User's Garage Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris, 71 Galaxie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 3,670	scam __________________ Please visit my online store for computer stuff and Official Yarisworld decals!

06-18-2010, 09:48 AM	#5
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	This thing draws 30W of power @ 14.2V. That isn't enough to do anything but put a restriction in your intake and a load on your alternator.

06-19-2010, 12:22 AM	#7
xen555 View User's Garage Drives: 3 DOORS LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 258	its a scam!!! electric supercharger lol this is the real use... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-...#ht_1368wt_754 streetbeat Listing Price: $299.99 Selling Price: $239.99 You save: $60.00 ebaymotors Price: US $22.95 but now if you wanna try it You save: $217.04

06-19-2010, 03:53 AM	#8
Stove View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Yaris 5 Door Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tigard Oregon Posts: 314	Don't waste your money. Products like this have been around for decades and have been proven to be complete crap every time. The way I see it, if it really worked and gave some (any) measurable gains some of the auto makers would be installing them. Read the add carefully, "Not only does the Stage 2 Supercharger produce 900CF of forced air into your engine when turned on". What the heck is "CF". It sure isn't CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute). Maybe it's Cubic Feet per Lunar Cycle. And at what pressure? None, I'll bet. As a reference, turbos that are appropriately sized for our 1.5 liter engine (Garret T25/T28) will, at most, force around 400 to 450 cubic feet per minute of air into your engine (CFM) at 6 or more PSI. Besides, any time one of the selling points is "Performance sound from engine bay", you know its crap.

06-19-2010, 03:17 PM	#10
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	^Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

06-19-2010, 09:51 PM	#11
severous01 Drives: 2008 yaris, stripped, red Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE Texas Posts: 977	hahaha.....maybe enough at idle... there's a guy with a real supercharger out there that's electric. uses 6 batteries and supplies over 50psi of boost for short bursts...IE, a quarter mile. he made it with 3 starters, 6 batteries, and i believe it's a vacuum cleaner motor....maybe a roots style charger idk...it's on a miata i believe, or a rx7

06-19-2010, 10:32 PM	#12
CarBob08 Drives: '08 3-Door Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 35	Back in the day (I just love saying that) as a senior project for college, I designed an electric supercharger system. Here is how it worked out... NOT GOOD. It would take ~100+volt DC motor at about 50 amps to produce enough air flow to get anywhere close to a volumetric efficiency of a real turbo or supercharger. These electric systems are all scams from what I have seen. Save your money for a nice dinner somewhere, you'll be much better off.

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