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Old 06-18-2010, 09:40 PM   #1
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My new 6x9 subwoofers pics inside

Finally stepped up and decided to purchase these. Not sure if any members have them on their car yet. I think im gona have to do a little bit of modding to the sheet metal with a dremel they are massive. They gota way atleast 5 times more than my 6x9 speakers i have in there already. I was looking for a little more bass without having to put in a heavy sub. I already have proper sound staging in the front with strong components. So i figured why not.

Gona try them free air first and then silicon clear tupperware baskets under the rear deck to give it a sealed enclosure. I dont expect it to be earth shattering but should fill in the mids and some lows that i was missing.



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Old 06-18-2010, 09:52 PM   #2
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Interesting.

Don't free-air them. They need to be sealed up.
They look like they would be comparable to a short-throw 8".
What is their RMS power rating?
They look like they might be around 100-150 watts RMS each.
What is the Xmax rating on them?

Do you have a dedicated amp on them, with a crossover?

Silicone Tupperware baskets under them ???
NO. Very bad idea.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:14 PM   #3
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:23 PM   #4
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Interesting.

Don't free-air them. They need to be sealed up.
They look like they would be comparable to a short-throw 8".
What is their RMS power rating?
They look like they might be around 100-150 watts RMS each.
What is the Xmax rating on them?

Do you have a dedicated amp on them, with a crossover?

Silicone Tupperware baskets under them ???
NO. Very bad idea.
I was gona try to hook it up to my existing factory wiring. It is wired to my 4 channel amp. I have been trying to find the specs but no luck so far on it. I just know its a memphis audio and seems to be decent quality. The rear channel has a seperate crossover so i can set the frequency to low pass and the gain appropriately. Only question is it going to provide enough power.

heres a copy and paste from the website for the specs on the subs.

The oval shaped frame of the W69-1042 gives you the surface area of a typical 8" driver in the footprint of a 6-1/2". Perfect for constructing a narrow-baffle subwoofer, or for automotive installs in factory 6" x 9" locations. High power handling and long excursion for excellent low-bass performance. Specifications: *Power Handling: 90 watts RMS/170 watts max *VCdia: 1-1/2" *Impedance: 8 ohms *Re: 6.5 ohms *Frequency range: 35-350 Hz *Fs: 35 Hz *SPL: 87 dB 2.83V/1m *Vas: 1.34 cu.ft. *Qms: 6.05 *Qes: 0.37 *Qts: 0.35 *Xmax 7 mm *Dimensions: A: 6-1/2" x 9-1/4", C: 4-3/16".
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:39 AM   #5
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Ah yes. I saw these on the PartsExpress website.
They are Tang-Ban or something like that.
Anything from 40-100 watts should run them fine.
80 watts would probably be perfect.

Let us know how they sound after you get them installed.
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Old 06-20-2010, 01:24 AM   #6
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Should i run these in series or run each indepently
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Old 06-20-2010, 05:12 AM   #7
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independently. You can always make your own box. I say no on that tupperware idea, too.
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:14 PM   #8
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Should i run these in series or run each indepently
Actually you should run them in parallel. That would give you 4 ohms. Then bridge the rear 2 channels of your amp to them.
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:26 PM   #9
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Actually you should run them in parallel. That would give you 4 ohms. Then bridge the rear 2 channels of your amp to them.
that was what i was thinking.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:58 AM   #10
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Free-air them to your heart's content.

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Don't free-air them. They need to be sealed up.
I think what he meant by "free-air" is that he was just going to stick them in the rear deck and call it a day. There should be no problem with him doing so if the back seat is up; and even if it was down, the only issues he may have is some noise cancellation due to the sound waves coming from both the top and bottom of the speaker itself.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:31 AM   #11
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Finally stepped up and decided to purchase these. I was looking for a little more bass without having to put in a heavy sub. I already have proper sound staging in the front with strong components. So i figured why not.
Good idea, looking forward to hear from your experience.

What staging do you have in front?



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Old 06-21-2010, 11:29 AM   #12
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Good idea, looking forward to hear from your experience.

What staging do you have in front?



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Memphis audio MC15-MSQ6 6.5s with the tweeters mounted up by the pillars facing the window.
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Memphis audio MC15-MSQ6 6.5s with the tweeters mounted up by the pillars facing the window.
Cool,

Tweeters facing the window? please explain to me. Do you have pictures?

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Old 06-21-2010, 01:05 PM   #14
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Cool,

Tweeters facing the window? please explain to me. Do you have pictures?

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Yeah ill take pictures of my entire setup once i get everything installed. Cars in the bodyshop till probaly wensday so hopefully i will have time to put the new subs in and take pictures thursday.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:04 PM   #15
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Are those paper cones?
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:28 PM   #16
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Are those paper cones?
They feel like it.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:42 AM   #17
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YEAH!!!! I've always wanted to play around with those. It appears they use the same motor as the TB8 740 drivers... And I must tell you, the 740's are kick ass little 8's... The best 8" sub i've come across that you can buy for under 150.

Paper cones are actually probably the best material a sub can be made with (due to other materials having weird harmonic resonances.

Free-air/infinite baffle in the rear deck will work perfectly fine. The only thing you have to worry about is over-excursion, I doubt it'll be a problem, but if you start to hear distortion coming from the speakers, turn it down a little.

The tuperware enclosures mounted to the bottom of the rear deck will work fine. It looks ghetto, but will work fine as long as its not extremely flimsy tupperware. It's alot easier and lighter to do that than make a wood or glass box for them. You just have to make sure that they are completely sealed (air tight). Depending on the size of the tupperware, you may think about putting some polyfil/pillow stuffing in the enclosure too. It'll trick the speaker into thinking the enclosure is a bit bigger. The TB subs have a low Qts value tho, and thus are well suited for small enclosures (especially ported ones).
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Good to know i can just plop them in and call it a day. Only thing im worried about now is my rear deck rattaling like hell. I have some generic dynomat i think its called B-quite but the glue dosnt seem to stick very well i did my trunk i my other car and the stuff just started to fall off after awile and cause more rattles.

What would you recomend thats really good. I dont think price is much of a issue sine ill be doing just a small area ill only need a few feet.
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