Ford's design chief is retiring - Toyota Yaris Forums

*kimona* · 10-03-2014, 10:46 PM

http://www.mbtmag.com/news/2013/11/f...ays-set-retire

Perhaps Toyota should make him an offer he can't refuse. While Toyota is undoubtedly the most reliable car on the market, they have IMHO become the absolute worst in exterior design.

jcboy · 10-05-2014, 08:29 AM

theyre not the absolute worst. citroen and peugeot, among others, make fugly cars.

i don't think Toyota needs him as much, as Toyota designs are now more aggressive, thanks to CEO Toyoda (the son). But yes, Ford's designs are way better in my eyes than Toyota's. Though i still think Mazdas have the sleekest and prettiest mass-produced cars. (not comparing to Lexus, Acura, Audi or those even higher up like Aston-Martin, Porsche, etc.)

*kimona* · 10-05-2014, 12:13 PM

Well, we don't have Citroen and Peugeot to compare. But IMHO, Peugeot currently makes some of the best looking cars globally.

nookandcrannycar · 10-05-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kimona

Well, we don't have Citroen and Peugeot to compare. But IMHO, Peugeot currently makes some of the best looking cars globally.

Peugeots ugly?....nahhh

Citroens ugly?...absolutely

428CobraJet · 10-05-2014, 01:36 PM

J Mays is the man!

SilverBack · 10-05-2014, 05:45 PM

Good riddance to poor talent. Retrofuturism is a complete joke.

If Toyota should bring someone back from retirement, it should be Chris Bangle of BMW. He was a true innovator in automotive design with strong sense of original and organic styling. 2 cents.

428CobraJet · 10-05-2014, 05:52 PM

Original....I'll buy that

*tk-421* · 10-06-2014, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Peugeots ugly?....nahhh

Quote:

Citroens ugly?...absolutely

It's all relative, I assure you.

Kalispel · 10-06-2014, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kimona

http://www.mbtmag.com/news/2013/11/f...ays-set-retire

Perhaps Toyota should make him an offer he can't refuse. While Toyota is undoubtedly the most reliable car on the market, they have IMHO become the absolute worst in exterior design.

Toyota styling is lacking for the most part (especially the newest USA Corolla), but new Honda autos are even worse (especially the Fit, Civic, and CRZ). There is no way I would buy any current auto by Honda, since they are all so grossly unattractive to me in one way or another - plus I really don't want any car bigger than a Civic/Corolla type sedan anymore. Ironically, every new auto that I have owned in my life (about 10 of them) has thus far been a manual transmission Honda/Acura of some sort - though that will change in 2015, since I really like the 2009-2011 Yaris Sedan (manual-transmission) for some reason.

nookandcrannycar · 10-06-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tk-421

It's all relative, I assure you.

....too long since I've paid attention to any Citroen

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sheekeebut · 10-06-2014, 12:35 PM

Sometimes all it takes is a new bumper:

Giugiaro had it right with the above. It's so.... Maserati..

Below, on the other hand:

What was Fiat thinking? And they called this the "Evo" I don't know what caused this evolution, but the beast got uglier.

428CobraJet · 10-06-2014, 12:51 PM

They all look alike to me

sheekeebut · 10-06-2014, 12:54 PM

At a certain point, you see right through all the body styling. For me, really, it's the inner beauty that counts.

Until Fiat barfs up a design like above. What the hell is that, some kind of chrome moustache?

*kimona* · 10-06-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sheekeebut

At a certain point, you see right through all the body styling. For me, really, it's the inner beauty that counts.

That's precisely the reason I'll continue buying Toyota... as ugly as they've become!

sheekeebut · 10-06-2014, 02:08 PM

And by inner beauty I didn't mean interior. But yeah, there is some kind of cuteness to Yaris's Lego trim and waiting-room upholstery.

sheekeebut · 10-06-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kimona

That's precisely the reason I'll continue buying Toyota... as ugly as they've become!

So I'm not the only one who likes the 2nd gen styling more than 3rd?

Synyster · 01-23-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sheekeebut

Sometimes all it takes is a new bumper:

Giugiaro had it right with the above. It's so.... Maserati..

Below, on the other hand:

What was Fiat thinking? And they called this the "Evo" I don't know what caused this evolution, but the beast got uglier.

One of my favorite cars to drive (my buddy owns one in Europe) ... Punto Abarth.

*kimona* · 01-24-2015, 02:39 AM

But the wheels are bloody awesome!

10-03-2014, 10:46 PM	#1
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Ford's design chief is retiring http://www.mbtmag.com/news/2013/11/f...ays-set-retire Perhaps Toyota should make him an offer he can't refuse. While Toyota is undoubtedly the most reliable car on the market, they have IMHO become the absolute worst in exterior design.

10-05-2014, 01:36 PM	#5
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10-05-2014, 05:45 PM	#6
SilverBack Joey View User's Garage Drives: '14 Scion xD 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: El Monte, Ca Posts: 3,529	Good riddance to poor talent. Retrofuturism is a complete joke. If Toyota should bring someone back from retirement, it should be Chris Bangle of BMW. He was a true innovator in automotive design with strong sense of original and organic styling. 2 cents. __________________ Formerly owned Met-Met. '07 Yaris LB 5-speed. A forum post should be like a skirt: Long enough to cover the subject but short enough to keep things interesting. "I don't have an anger problem. I have an idiot problem." -Hank Hill

10-05-2014, 05:52 PM	#7
428CobraJet View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yaris 3dr, 13 F150rcsb 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: downtown Houston Posts: 259	Original....I'll buy that __________________ You are what you drive.

10-06-2014, 12:51 PM	#12
428CobraJet View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yaris 3dr, 13 F150rcsb 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: downtown Houston Posts: 259	They all look alike to me __________________ You are what you drive.

10-05-2014, 08:29 AM	#2
jcboy Drives: Sedan 07 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 478	theyre not the absolute worst. citroen and peugeot, among others, make fugly cars. i don't think Toyota needs him as much, as Toyota designs are now more aggressive, thanks to CEO Toyoda (the son). But yes, Ford's designs are way better in my eyes than Toyota's. Though i still think Mazdas have the sleekest and prettiest mass-produced cars. (not comparing to Lexus, Acura, Audi or those even higher up like Aston-Martin, Porsche, etc.)

10-05-2014, 12:13 PM	#3
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Well, we don't have Citroen and Peugeot to compare. But IMHO, Peugeot currently makes some of the best looking cars globally.

10-06-2014, 12:35 PM	#11
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	Sometimes all it takes is a new bumper: Giugiaro had it right with the above. It's so.... Maserati.. Below, on the other hand: What was Fiat thinking? And they called this the "Evo" I don't know what caused this evolution, but the beast got uglier.

10-06-2014, 12:54 PM	#13
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	At a certain point, you see right through all the body styling. For me, really, it's the inner beauty that counts. Until Fiat barfs up a design like above. What the hell is that, some kind of chrome moustache?

10-06-2014, 02:08 PM	#15
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	And by inner beauty I didn't mean interior. But yeah, there is some kind of cuteness to Yaris's Lego trim and waiting-room upholstery.

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