Mazda to make new Toyota subcompact in Mexico

[Thirty-Nine]

Looks like Mazda is building a factory in Mexico and will build a subcompact built on the Mazda2 chassis, but it'll be sold as a Toyota product.

http://www.subcompactculture.com/201...as-toyota.html

[tk-421]

Intriguing! Let's see what they have up their sleeves... I'm thinking different body styles, but it could be as boring as a simple badge change.

[junorico24]

Mazda 2 with a yota engine?

[AlphaCentauri]

Toyota did not provide much information about the vehicle and would not say if it will replace the Yaris, a similar-sized car that Toyota builds in Japan.

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,1614324.story

[fnkngrv]

either way if how poorly the VWs are built in Mexico I am not holding my breathe for a solid product.

[403RS]

[Absolutely Red 12]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

either way if how poorly the VWs are built in Mexico I am not holding my breathe for a solid product.

Fiat 500 Made In Mexico too!!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 403RS

I agree. 'Plllleeeeease' NO!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by AlphaCentauri

Toyota did not provide much information about the vehicle and would not say if it will replace the Yaris, a similar-sized car that Toyota builds in Japan.

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,1614324.story

The article gives sales figures. I'm amazed that the Yaris is so far behind the Fit, Fiesta, and Sonic . The Sonic really leaves me SMH. I would never (and I know Why? agrees with me) buy a car from the companies that took the bailout....and I don't understand why more people don't feel the same way.

[b20vteg]

i would love to see the aygo here in the states. anyone know why we don't have them here?

[2o6]

I don't know if this article is worded correctly; other articles say that a new small car will be shared with the Mazda 2, and made in Mexico. And given the fact that

- Mazda 2 is mechanically related to the Ford Fiesta

- Ford/Mazda partnership is dead

- Both the 2 and new Yaris are slow selling in the USA

- Mazda has no new partner for a small car; especially since everyone is partnering up with other companies on new product

I wouldn't be surprised if the next 2 and Yaris are related, and this new Mexican plant will build a new Mazda 2 and Yaris.

[2o6]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

The article gives sales figures. I'm amazed that the Yaris is so far behind the Fit, Fiesta, and Sonic . The Sonic really leaves me SMH. I would never (and I know Why? agrees with me) buy a car from the companies that took the bailout....and I don't understand why more people don't feel the same way.

Because, I know this is a Yaris forum.....but the new Yaris "sucks", it's nowhere near as good of a small car as the Sonic is. Feels tippy, slow, not that roomy, whereas the Sonic is a very, very, very good car.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 2o6

Because, I know this is a Yaris forum.....but the new Yaris "sucks", it's nowhere near as good of a small car as the Sonic is. Feels tippy, slow, not that roomy, whereas the Sonic is a very, very, very good car.

I don't care how good a car the Sonic is, it is the principle of the thing. You either believe we have a Rule of Law (one aspect many immigrants used to really like about the U.S.) in the U.S. or you don't. I supported Obama in 2008 (I stupidly molded him into what I thought he might become -- very uncharacteristic of me), but now have a very low opinion of him. The bondholders were first in line to receive equity after the 'reorganization' and Obama essentially flipped the bondholders the bird and allowed that equity to go to the unions instead.

Academy is a sporting goods and outdoor chain that has about 150 stores. I used to purchase needed items there. One day, a couple of years ago, I read a police log report in the newspaper. A customer had her car broken into in the parking lot of an Academy store. A policeman asked the store for the camera footage that would cover the time the customer was away from the car. The store's position was that they wouldn't provide the footage unless a judge ordered them to do it. I said to myself that a store that is that unhelpful to a customer doesn't deserve my business and I haven't walked into an Academy store since (and there is one about 4 miles from my house).

When the O'Malley family still owned the Dodgers, the way they treated one player pissed me off so much that I said I'm never going to be responsible for putting another dollar in the O'Malley's pocket again. I never again went to a Dodger game until AFTER they sold the team to Fox....and I'll never go to Petco Park again (some O'Malley family members are part of the new Padres ownership group)

I carry my beliefs to the core of my being and try to live a life as devoid of hypocrisy as possible.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by Absolutely Red 12

Fiat 500 Made In Mexico too!!

What is your point? They haven't been out long enough to prove anything. The whole idea that an automobile is a reliable and solid one no matter where it is built is a totally inaccurate one. Case in point is the issues that Toyota faced in the last few years and the whole problem with Q&A. These issues were all with models assembled and produced in North America. It is just a plain fact. Of course we do have those that work their fingers to the bone to produce top notch products every day of their lives and I applaud as well as thank them, but that has become the exception rather than the rule. It is very sad to admit it, but our countries manufacturing as a whole has really gone down hill over the last couple decades and because of it other nations have caught up to include surpassing us.

A lot of folks ding the Chinese for poor quality, but they are getting better and fast. Our biggest issue as a nation when it comes to production is that we feel we have the God given right to high or higher wages just because we are American. This is reflected in today's youth in a very outspoken manner and one of the key reasons that today's generations are called the "Entitlement Generations". Things were going so well for this country that sight was lost of the big picture which in turn also caused the collapse in the middle of the previous decade.

I am sure that you could kick it back in my face that production in Mexico is getting much better, but it does not wipe away the fact that there is one single reason why any manufacturers built plants in other countries...the bottom line. They can pay those residents of those nations the lowest possible wage. It sure as the hell isn't to save some money while at the same time educate them on quality workmanship. It is all about the bottom line. If Toyota does this it will sadden me greatly and will provide evidence that they are becoming more about the bottom line than quality. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

It sure as the hell isn't to save some money while at the same time educate them on quality workmanship. It is all about the bottom line.

I agree it's about the money (most businesses understand this). But you can't make that kind of money if you don't focus on the quality, no matter where the factory is located. Recalls cost too much cash (and a good reputation even more so), so why come out with a product at all if you're not sure you can hit the high notes consistently?

[403RS]

Originally Posted by b20vteg

i would love to see the aygo here in the states. anyone know why we don't have them here?

Well soccer's not that big in N.A.

http://youtu.be/3yBITRmNd4I

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by 403RS

Well soccer's not that big in the U.S.

FTFY

[jayeh]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

either way if how poorly the VWs are built in Mexico I am not holding my breathe for a solid product.

+1

Plus the awful nissans.