.5" really worth it - Toyota Yaris Forums

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 03:19 PM

Ill make it quick

Rota slipstream 15x7 - 12.9 lbs

Rota slipstream 15x6.5 -11.9

rota attack 15x6.5- 10lbs

Is the extra .5 inch really worth 4 lbs of unsprung weight?

what would yall go with.

And btw im goin with df210 drop

*kimona* · 05-04-2009, 03:29 PM

IMHO, far too much hoopla about a few pounds of unspring weight on this forum.

You're going to drop the car on DF210's. What wheel offset and tyre size are you considering?

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 05-04-2009, 03:31 PM

15X5 35MM OFFSET

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 03:33 PM

15x6.5 40ish offset.... what do u mean with all caps Blaze?? What tire size is recomended? Im so worried im gonna waste money and messs up my setup. I just want to get it right the first time ><

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 05-04-2009, 03:34 PM

WORK

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 03:38 PM

hahahahhaha ur like ollie williams, the black weather guy on family guy. Ollie whats the weather look like today? ITS RAININ

SOOOOO 15x6.5 df210 wnt work blaze? ur confus.

scape · 05-04-2009, 03:39 PM

i read somewhere that 1 lbs. of unsprung weight removed from the wheel is equatable to 10 lbs. static weight. so 1 lb. dropped from all wheels would be 40 lbs. removed. I don't think this is very 'scientific' but it is something I ran across from a website; don't take my word for it.

keys to remember are, the wider the tire: more rolling resistance due to more rubber on the road/but better handling in turns due to more grip
the larger the rim in diam.+weight: the more rotational force exists-- easier it is to continue going in a straight line/but harder it is for the tire to change directions.
grab a bicycle and spin the front tire in the air, then turn the handles and see what I mean.
as for rim width, I don't think 6.5 and 7 are much of a difference except extra weight and tire selections...possibly less tire roll, but I doubt that

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 05-04-2009, 03:44 PM

no i have those scion wheels which are 15x5 with a 35mm offset i think and i want to put 205/55/15's on them. i was just hijacking your thread.....

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scape

i read somewhere that 1 lbs. of unsprung weight removed from the wheel is equatable to 10 lbs. static weight. so 1 lb. dropped from all wheels would be 40 lbs. removed. I don't think this is very 'scientific' but it is something I ran across from a website; don't take my word for it.

keys to remember are, the wider the tire: more rolling resistance due to more rubber on the road/but better handling in turns due to more grip
the larger the rim in diam.+weight: the more rotational force exists-- easier it is to continue going in a straight line/but harder it is for the tire to change directions.
grab a bicycle and spin the front tire in the air, then turn the handles and see what I mean.
as for rim width, I don't think 6.5 and 7 are much of a difference except extra weight and tire selections...possibly less tire roll, but I doubt that

Thanks scape, i tihnk im goin with the 15x6.5 best compromise. I doubt the .5 will make muc dif, and itd be nice to save a few lbs. Thanks again buddy good post

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLAZINBLUEVITZ

no i have those scion wheels which are 15x5 with a 35mm offset i think and i want to put 205/55/15's on them. i was just hijacking your thread.....

ooo i dunno the answer to urs but hijack away, in fact u can have it i got my answer lol. I now give this thread to u

*kimona* · 05-04-2009, 03:54 PM

15x6.5, ET40, 205/50/15 w/DF210's.

scape · 05-04-2009, 04:00 PM

np, just some insight I thought about myself-- looking to get new rims too :)
the slipstreams at 6.5 wide are 13 lbs. on some websites...maybe this is a misprint, just wanted to let you know.
I keep going back to wanting buddy club p1 qf, expensive though!

mastaofdisasta · 05-04-2009, 04:21 PM

i found somne buddy club p1s for 119 each dunno if they are the qf or whatevs and thhey might be used. http://passwordjdm.com/Buddy-Club-P1...P1723C306.aspx

oo they are sf's

*kimona* · 05-04-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

i found somne buddy club p1s for 119 each dunno if they are the qf or whatevs and thhey might be used. http://passwordjdm.com/Buddy-Club-P1...P1723C306.aspx

oo they are sf's

15x6.5, ET35... you'll need to run 195 rubber.

scape · 05-04-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastaofdisasta

i found somne buddy club p1s for 119 each dunno if they are the qf or whatevs and thhey might be used. http://passwordjdm.com/Buddy-Club-P1...P1723C306.aspx

oo they are sf's

thanks for the find, not too bad. 13lbs each and decent reputation apparently.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 05-04-2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimona

15x6.5, ET35... you'll need to run 195 rubber.

no 205's? WHY

HTM Yaris · 05-04-2009, 06:41 PM

Actually ,it will be only 2 lbs of unsprung weight ,since the Yaris only has 2 wheels connected to the drivetrain . The other two wheels would be static weight .

Loren · 05-04-2009, 06:45 PM

Don't confuse unsprung weight with rotational inertia. Anything hanging from the suspension when the car is raised is unsprung weight.

05-04-2009, 03:19 PM	#1
mastaofdisasta Drives: yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: amerika Posts: 258	.5" really worth it Ill make it quick Rota slipstream 15x7 - 12.9 lbs Rota slipstream 15x6.5 -11.9 rota attack 15x6.5- 10lbs Is the extra .5 inch really worth 4 lbs of unsprung weight? what would yall go with. And btw im goin with df210 drop __________________ ballin on a budget.

05-04-2009, 03:31 PM	#3
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	15X5 35MM OFFSET __________________ EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO YARISWORLD......

05-04-2009, 03:33 PM	#4
mastaofdisasta Drives: yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: amerika Posts: 258	15x6.5 40ish offset.... what do u mean with all caps Blaze?? What tire size is recomended? Im so worried im gonna waste money and messs up my setup. I just want to get it right the first time >< __________________ ballin on a budget.

05-04-2009, 03:34 PM	#5
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	WORK __________________ EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO YARISWORLD......

05-04-2009, 03:38 PM	#6
mastaofdisasta Drives: yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: amerika Posts: 258	hahahahhaha ur like ollie williams, the black weather guy on family guy. Ollie whats the weather look like today? ITS RAININ SOOOOO 15x6.5 df210 wnt work blaze? ur confus. __________________ ballin on a budget.

05-04-2009, 03:29 PM	#2
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	IMHO, far too much hoopla about a few pounds of unspring weight on this forum. You're going to drop the car on DF210's. What wheel offset and tyre size are you considering?

05-04-2009, 03:39 PM	#7
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	i read somewhere that 1 lbs. of unsprung weight removed from the wheel is equatable to 10 lbs. static weight. so 1 lb. dropped from all wheels would be 40 lbs. removed. I don't think this is very 'scientific' but it is something I ran across from a website; don't take my word for it. keys to remember are, the wider the tire: more rolling resistance due to more rubber on the road/but better handling in turns due to more grip the larger the rim in diam.+weight: the more rotational force exists-- easier it is to continue going in a straight line/but harder it is for the tire to change directions. grab a bicycle and spin the front tire in the air, then turn the handles and see what I mean. as for rim width, I don't think 6.5 and 7 are much of a difference except extra weight and tire selections...possibly less tire roll, but I doubt that

05-04-2009, 03:44 PM	#8
BLAZINBLUEVITZ View User's Garage Drives: 2007 YARIS 3DOOR Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,275	no i have those scion wheels which are 15x5 with a 35mm offset i think and i want to put 205/55/15's on them. i was just hijacking your thread..... __________________ EVERYBODY EVENTUALLY COMES BACK TO YARISWORLD......

05-04-2009, 03:54 PM	#11
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	15x6.5, ET40, 205/50/15 w/DF210's.

05-04-2009, 04:00 PM	#12
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	np, just some insight I thought about myself-- looking to get new rims too :) the slipstreams at 6.5 wide are 13 lbs. on some websites...maybe this is a misprint, just wanted to let you know. I keep going back to wanting buddy club p1 qf, expensive though!

05-04-2009, 04:21 PM	#13
mastaofdisasta Drives: yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: amerika Posts: 258	i found somne buddy club p1s for 119 each dunno if they are the qf or whatevs and thhey might be used. http://passwordjdm.com/Buddy-Club-P1...P1723C306.aspx oo they are sf's __________________ ballin on a budget.

05-04-2009, 06:41 PM	#17
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Actually ,it will be only 2 lbs of unsprung weight ,since the Yaris only has 2 wheels connected to the drivetrain . The other two wheels would be static weight . __________________

05-04-2009, 06:45 PM	#18
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Don't confuse unsprung weight with rotational inertia. Anything hanging from the suspension when the car is raised is unsprung weight. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Suggestions for $300-$400 worth of mods please!	CtrlAltDefeat	Performance Modifications	51	01-05-2011 10:15 AM
Are the optional airbags worth it ?	avenno2g7	General Yaris / Vitz Discussion	46	12-07-2008 03:40 AM
Is it worth undercoating a new Yaris?	tacsnier	New YARIS Purchase Forum	12	06-13-2007 09:52 PM
Is the Yaris Hatchback Worth It?	Where is my Yaris?	New YARIS Purchase Forum	23	03-26-2007 06:33 PM
thinking about buying the sedan. is it worth the extra money for the s(optB) version?	friedbbq	General Yaris / Vitz Discussion	14	05-20-2006 01:53 PM