Dangerous Driving and Road Rage

[JBougie]

Worse experience I've had is:

Two days before New Years Day 2009, on a VERY snowy and icy day (everyone was going about 10MPH); my husband was REALLY sick (almost brought him to the ER) and we were going to run to Walmart to grab some medicine - well, we get off the freeway and onto the exit to the store, and as I was getting off the exit to turn onto the street we needed to be on; well this crazy mo'fo' came FLYING up on my a$$ for no reason what so ever - well, I was turning left so I was like "WTF is this guy doing?! He's crazy! If he doesn't slow down he's going to hit me!" well, he tried going around me and went off the main exit path around my drivers side went onto the less-plowed part and then jerked back over in front of me and slammed on his brakes.

Now, my husband was LAYING DOWN in the passenger side seat - the guy had NO idea that my 6', 230lb, solid husband was in the car. As he passed by on my drivers side he glared at me and knew I was a girl, seemingly alone.

After he slammed on his brakes, he got out of his car - in a very quick flash of time I was like "maybe he side swiped me and wants to check out the cars?" because I'm stupid. Well, he didn't - and that's not why he got out of the car. I opened my door and stood up right at my door - not even stepping away from the car and the guy came charging up and said "What the f*ck is your problem?!" and pushed me.

(See attached picture, I used my awesome MS Paint skillz and drew a diagram LOL)

Err - wrong move, buddy - little did you see, my husband was also getting out of the car. He just saw you put your hands on his wife - my husband leapt across the car and socked the dude right in the face and knocked him on his ass (he's lucky that's all he had done to him...). Well, the little wimp got all scared all of a sudden when he figured out he wasn't bullying a lone girl and called the cops and pressed assault charges against my husband. We laughed because HE was the one who got OUT OF HIS CAR and instigated the altercation ... so off to court we went .....(shortened version of the events following the guy laying there like a beotch with a bloody face)

My husband ended up having to plead down to Disorderly Conduct because he would get fired if he took it to trial, but in the state of MN - our plea of self-defense did not work because even though he was defending his wife, self-defense of others only works when you use equal or less force than the assaulter did - since that d-bag only pushed me, when my husband rearranged his nose for him it was considered assault.

I won't even drive in that area alone anymore, and I will only drive my car when I have to be over there (we were in his car at the time of the incident). I am still afraid he is going to see me in public and come after me in retaliation - it's kinda scary. And I'm no little girl (I'm 5'10" and chunky lol) but I still worry.

Roadrage is not cool guys. Not cool at all. I carry a survival claw knife on me everywhere I go and my motto now is "Stab now. Ask questions after they're on the ground holding their jugular." If it wasn't for my husband, I have no idea what would have happened that night. And that's scary. So now I am even more paranoid than before. Which is pretty bad because I had 0 faith in humanity before that. lol

[QR25DE_SpecV]

This could have been avoided. You push me, I squeeze the trigger. Okay? Good deal!

[JBougie]

......then it would be a murder charge ....... not worth it for some a-hole on the side of the highway trying to think he's tough. If it would have been someone trying to get into my home, or if I would have been alone - different story.

Actually, no - if I would have been alone, I would have never gotten out of the car even to see if he hit me - I would have locked the doors, started honking the horn while calling 9-1-1 and making a mental note of his license plate and description the second I saw him get out of his car .... or if I could have, I would have thrown it in reverse and got out of there as quickly as possible.

[kustom play]

thats why i love az

we are a right to carry state. I can go out tonight and get an ak47 and as long as i keep it in view i have the right to carry it

ever since i have been here, i havent had much issues with road rage or any type of BS issues.

most everybody has a gun, and its legal if threatened to shoot

[JBougie]

We all have a right to carry. It's one of the perks of being an American.

I still don't think that what that a-hole did should have cost him his life, and it would have ruined my career (criminal justice field) - the busted face was far more effective. It gave me the satisfaction of knowing he didn't get away with it, taught him to think twice before he ever does that again, and everyone left with their lives. Disorderly conduct is a misdemeanor, so it really isn't anything to cry about if you only have one. You can get that from being drunk and loud in public lol

I am 100000% pro-gun, but I also think they should be a last resort if you have to use them to actually harm another person. :)

And with all due respect, you're in Pheonix - you have a very high crime rate. Far more than here in the Twin Cities - so the whole "everyone carries a gun" thing must not be that great of a deterrent.

[kustom play]

we all dont have the right to carry

you cant just walk around holding a gun in most states , here in az you can, you can walk around with nearly anything as long as its open

we even made national news when people showed up to the Obama rally with AK-47's slung on their back

DC you can have a gun at all!

everybody should have a gun, that way when you go to start something, you KNOW the other person has a gun and it could cost you your life

[fmicle]

Originally Posted by JBougie

We all have a right to carry. It's one of the perks of being an American.

Not in California... you can't carry a weapon, not even a knife if the blade is longer than 3 inches and batons are illegal too at least here in the bay area Amazon won't even ship certain items to California

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by kustom play

everybody should have a gun, that way when you go to start something, you KNOW the other person has a gun and it could cost you your life

If this ever became a reality it would be wise to shoot first wouldn't it?

[fmicle]

In Switzerland for instance, everybody has a gun... actually almost every household has more like an arsenal at home, especially on the coutryside... every little village has a shooting range, most tunnels are rigged with explosives by the military, etc.

And, still, people don't shoot each other on the streets... Even Canadians, I think, they have more guns per capita than US and you don't hear about so many shootings over there... So I wonder what is it, over here? Some kind of cosmic radiation?

[Cosmonaut]

Originally Posted by fmicle

In Switzerland for instance, everybody has a gun... actually almost every household has more like an arsenal at home, especially on the coutryside... every little village has a shooting range, most tunnels are rigged with explosives by the military, etc.

And, still, people don't shoot each other on the streets... Even Canadians, I think, they have more guns per capita than US and you don't hear about so many shootings over there... So I wonder what is it, over here? Some kind of cosmic radiation?

its because America was founded on the basis of "F&*( you". thats how we became a country and thats how we continue to exist...generally.
i dont know maybe every one in america is over-stressed and under-sexed.

[fmicle]

[tomato]

Originally Posted by Cosmonaut

its because America was founded on the basis of "fuck you". thats how we became a country and thats how we continue to exist...generally.
i dont know maybe every one in america is over-stressed and under-sexed.

hahahaha!! Thank you for that one, what a day, I need that

[QR25DE_SpecV]

Originally Posted by Cosmonaut

its because America was founded on the basis of "fuck you". thats how we became a country and thats how we continue to exist...generally.
i dont know maybe every one in america is over-stressed and under-sexed.

Careful, you might get banned

[sqcomp]

A Sentra owner (regardles of the model) saying he can out accelerate "pretty much anyone" is amusing.
Something tells me that the testosterone in that vehicle is a little out of check.

Regardless...

One should absolutely have the right to defend themselves. That being said, you have to be very careful not to go overboard. WTH would have happened if both of you guys had pulled firearms? You might not be here right now. I'm not saying that would have been the case, it's just a possibility. I'm also not saying that one shouldn't be able to flex his or her right to bear arms.

Just be careful, that's all.

After a certain age (for me) I haven't run into a situation that I couldn't just let the jackass pass me. Now, if the person actually hits my car? It's on. My weapon is the cell phone and a call to the Sheriff's department reporting a felony hit and run. The sidearm is a VERY last resort. Personally I'd rather get into melee...I tend to have more experience with that type of situation.

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

After a certain age (for me) I haven't run into a situation that I couldn't just let the jackass pass me. Now, if the person actually hits my car? It's on. My weapon is the cell phone and a call to the Sheriff's department reporting a felony hit and run. The sidearm is a VERY last resort. Personally I'd rather get into melee...I tend to have more experience with that type of situation.

+1

[QR25DE_SpecV]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

A Sentra owner (regardles of the model) saying he can out accelerate "pretty much anyone" is amusing.
Something tells me that the testosterone in that vehicle is a little out of check.

Regardless...

One should absolutely have the right to defend themselves. That being said, you have to be very careful not to go overboard. WTH would have happened if both of you guys had pulled firearms? You might not be here right now. I'm not saying that would have been the case, it's just a possibility. I'm also not saying that one shouldn't be able to flex his or her right to bear arms.

Just be careful, that's all.

After a certain age (for me) I haven't run into a situation that I couldn't just let the jackass pass me. Now, if the person actually hits my car? It's on. My weapon is the cell phone and a call to the Sheriff's department reporting a felony hit and run. The sidearm is a VERY last resort. Personally I'd rather get into melee...I tend to have more experience with that type of situation.

When you think about it, I can out accelerate the greater majority of cars out there on the road. It wasn't meant to be a ricer "I'm faster than you" statement. I don't need to make claims on forums to feel good about myself. If you want to head out to Harris Hill, we can compare lap times

Well if they pulled firearms then I would have done exactly what I did in my story, RUN!

It had nothing to do with passing anyone? He was more upset that I passed him and tried to slam me into the curb.

[why?]

my worst story is maybe when i brake checked a motorcycle for tailgating me, the dude almost hit me, funny stuff.

Or when some dumb ass hit me because i took a left turn from the right lane, the moron was literally no where near me, he jumped out of his car at me, then i stepped out and he literally ran back and sat in his car waiting for the cops.

JBougie, you really need to get out of that communist state. Getting charged for defending your wife? I can't think of anything dumber. Hell, if someone tried to mess with one of my female friends i'd break a few of their fingers at least...

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by why?

JBougie, you really need to get out of that communist state. Getting charged for defending your wife? I can't think of anything dumber. Hell, if someone tried to mess with one of my female friends i'd break a few of their fingers at least...

We are actually working on that .... we're planning on moving back down south. That would have never happened. I thought it was BS; even the judge did - I am shocked he didn't just dismiss the case, honestly. He kept repeating, "You want to plead guilty? You know that you can take this to trial; you were defending your wife - it was an honorable thing .... you're SURE you want to plead guilty?" but the dbag prosecutor was dead set on getting a guilty on something, and like I said my husbands boss wasn't OK with him taking time off for a trial.

It hasn't changed his way of thinking though; he told the trooper when it happened that regardless of if it was "legal" or not, he'd do it again in a heartbeat to someone who did less to me. He's my hero

I hate Minnesota. It's the most backwards ass state I've ever lived in.