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sqcomp · 10-17-2011, 10:10 PM

What I meant was based off what you said, "if I close my eyes, sound stage seems something like 10 or 12 inches wider that my A-pillars".

That extends past the outer limits of your mirrors.

I'd love to see your front stage setup.

Mixing the sub in just right can be a trick. It works though in the Yaris sedan...even with the sub in the trunk. Crossover techniques is what does it for me.

TOLMACH · 10-18-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

What I meant was based off what you said, "if I close my eyes, sound stage seems something like 10 or 12 inches wider that my A-pillars".

That extends past the outer limits of your mirrors.

I'd love to see your front stage setup.

Mixing the sub in just right can be a trick. It works though in the Yaris sedan...even with the sub in the trunk. Crossover techniques is what does it for me.

Well.. could not agree more on that installer's experience does matter in car audio projects..

not sure about the mirrows but unexpectedly seems wider than my pillars

You said there will be an event in Coquitlam next spring - would be good to meet would you decide to come- will show you what I did

derickveliz2 · 10-19-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

If your stage is that skewed then it doesn't present a proper audio picture. Does the band really move from a centrally located stage? No.

No it's not, that was a shot in the past, when I had the Mids in spheres!

As of today in a 2 way configuration, "but closer to the the listener, about 2 feet from my face and it's wider!" looks more like this : What I'm showing here is the 7 GREEN asterisks

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-19-2011, 12:53 AM

Ok, I took the I6SW out of it's enclosure, then with some Morton Ice Melt I started checking internal volume, and I end up with a 9.3 liter enclosure, HAT recommends 9.9 litters that means I'm short for over 1/2 a liter (2 cups).

That puts me at 94% of the recommended internal volume, should I add a little hump! to compensate and accomplish 9.9 liters? maybe I should?

derickveliz2 · 10-19-2011, 01:20 AM

Yesterday I had the chance to have my first passenger to test the space, I just covered the enclosure with a black cloth, and didn't even say any thing to my guest:

1.- He didn't bother or noticed the enclosure, he was comfortable as far I could tell, he is about 5'-10".

2.- When I turn the music on, (very low volume, this was a business trip, not a show off) I could tell on his eyes rolling that some thing special was going on, I had some Jazz music, he kind of pause at some points to listen/feel the music.

Payless!

D.

sqcomp · 10-19-2011, 03:51 AM

Derick...you're funny.

You meant priceless.

That is great news! So when do you plan to compete? Hint hint...

derickveliz2 · 10-19-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick...you're funny.

You meant priceless.

That is great news! So when do you plan to compete? Hint hint...

I was sleepy last night

, that's what happens when you think in Spanish and write in English.

I would love to participate in a competition, just to measure really where I'm and how much I have accomplished!

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-21-2011, 01:27 AM

After another 200 miles with the I6SW, I was thinking... "Do I miss my IDQ12?"

Not really!

IDQ12 was nice to show off, with loud bass in the trunk, but on long trips was kind of overwhelming, my seat used to vibrate and that kind of bother me.

I6SW is not Loud, but it does what I want, like & feel the bass in my chest. every day get's better and better.

D.

sqcomp · 10-21-2011, 12:03 PM

Coolness! Now we need to move that stage back to the hood...

You know, it's funny, we're converging with our systems. I just realized last night that my L6SEs fit in my doors. They put out at least as much mid bass as they do in the kicks. This means I can move my mid ranges down to the kicks...AND...

wait for it, you're going to like this

put two sealed ID8s in the passenger's footwell. I've got so much power on the sub amp that I could run 12 of the little 8s.

:)

I think you might like that!

derickveliz2 · 10-22-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Coolness! Now we need to move that stage back to the hood...

You know, it's funny, we're converging with our systems. I just realized last night that my L6SEs fit in my doors. They put out at least as much mid bass as they do in the kicks. This means I can move my mid ranges down to the kicks...AND...

wait for it, you're going to like this

put two sealed ID8s in the passenger's footwell. I've got so much power on the sub amp that I could run 12 of the little 8s.

:)

I think you might like that!

I really would like to know a little bit more about tuning and how to manipulate the sound, I hear many people talk about their stage on the hood, I know we have a disadvantage with the Yaris, the base of the windshield is almost 5 feet from my right ear, compare to other vehicles the base of the windshield is very close to the listener, or maybe it's an advantage for the tweeters? having all that space in front of our hears.

Yes I'm hoping my L6s will perform well in the doors, I'm sure they will do better than what I have now. your L6SE wouldn't have a problem there. I would like to cut the plastic trim over the speaker though, but I'm afraid it's going to look cheap/bad?

What tools do I need to cut metal down in the a-frame?
I would like to sink the MIDs as much as I can in there to improve the width of the stage.

If the I6SW is doing pretty good I know you could make 2 ID8s sound awesome in the passenger's foot well, you have all the power or even more than that!

D.

sickpuppy1 · 10-22-2011, 09:08 AM

Dang I really want to hear one of your systems....I need a vacation,lol

derickveliz2 · 10-22-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

Dang I really want to hear one of your systems....I need a vacation,lol

Guess what makes me get out to work! LOL

D.

sqcomp · 10-22-2011, 01:54 PM

D,

I was going to say wait on sinking the mid into the kick. Let me do mine first so you can work off my mistakes. That being said, we have different mids. My SEs have a neo motor. With that in mind, I can snug mine almost INTO the side of the kick. lemme show a pic of the area:

The SEs will fit into that area when I place the baffle for the speaker on top of the hole.

That means one can actually put the mid range IN the kick.

Oh...what do you think about me taking the glove box out (since I'll be in the Pro/Am class for IASCA next year) and bringing the 15" up front? MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

TOLMACH · 10-22-2011, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

I was going to say wait on sinking the mid into the kick. Let me do mine first so you can work off my mistakes. That being said, we have different mids. My SEs have a neo motor. With that in mind, I can snug mine almost INTO the side of the kick. lemme show a pic of the area:

The SEs will fit into that area when I place the baffle for the speaker on top of the hole.

That means one can actually put the mid range IN the kick.

Oh...what do you think about me taking the glove box out (since I'll be in the Pro/Am class for IASCA next year) and bringing the 15" up front? MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Re : glove box out / 15 inch sub upfront

How do you plan to fit a sub that needs a huge (btw how big?) enclosure somewhere in the front?

sqcomp · 10-22-2011, 04:32 PM

Devilish little plan!

the enclosure only needs to be 12x15x15 overall. That's something like 1.56^3 of enclosure space. The enclosure i have in the back now gets LOW with its response, I'm working with a 1.75-2^3 enclosure at this moment.

I don't store anything in the glove box anyway, so it wouldn't be much of a loss.

Anything I do store can be put into the center console.

Derick likes that IDQ 12 up front? :) Imagine a 15" with 3 times the power at least. That would also allow me to bump my mid bass and mid range frequencies up since localiztion wouldn't be an issue. Less stress on everything.

derickveliz2 · 10-22-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

I was going to say wait on sinking the mid into the kick. Let me do mine first so you can work off my mistakes. , I can snug mine almost INTO the side of the kick.
The SEs will fit into that area when I place the baffle for the speaker on top of the hole.

OK, I'll wait...

How thick will you make the baffle?

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-23-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,

I was going to say wait on sinking the mid into the kick. Let me do mine first so you can work off my mistakes.

Sorry

,
just didn't resist and cut some sheet metal with rudimentary tools, tomorrow I'll try with a dremel. I didn't want to wake up the crew!

I believe your L4SEs are slightly bigger than my Hertz, I really want to sink in at least the Pilot's side.

D.

sqcomp · 10-23-2011, 03:21 AM

Shit son! You opened it up. I'm keeping mine in tact...

Put a 1/2" baffle on that shit and glass it in! Glass it into the stock kick panel...

10-17-2011, 10:10 PM	#1585
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	What I meant was based off what you said, "if I close my eyes, sound stage seems something like 10 or 12 inches wider that my A-pillars". That extends past the outer limits of your mirrors. I'd love to see your front stage setup. Mixing the sub in just right can be a trick. It works though in the Yaris sedan...even with the sub in the trunk. Crossover techniques is what does it for me. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-19-2011, 12:53 AM	#1588
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Ok, I took the I6SW out of it's enclosure, then with some Morton Ice Melt I started checking internal volume, and I end up with a 9.3 liter enclosure, HAT recommends 9.9 litters that means I'm short for over 1/2 a liter (2 cups). That puts me at 94% of the recommended internal volume, should I add a little hump! to compensate and accomplish 9.9 liters? maybe I should? __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-19-2011, 01:20 AM	#1589
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Yesterday I had the chance to have my first passenger to test the space, I just covered the enclosure with a black cloth, and didn't even say any thing to my guest: 1.- He didn't bother or noticed the enclosure, he was comfortable as far I could tell, he is about 5'-10". 2.- When I turn the music on, (very low volume, this was a business trip, not a show off) I could tell on his eyes rolling that some thing special was going on, I had some Jazz music, he kind of pause at some points to listen/feel the music. Payless! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-19-2011, 03:51 AM	#1590
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Derick...you're funny. You meant priceless. That is great news! So when do you plan to compete? Hint hint... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-21-2011, 01:27 AM	#1592
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	After another 200 miles with the I6SW, I was thinking... "Do I miss my IDQ12?" Not really! IDQ12 was nice to show off, with loud bass in the trunk, but on long trips was kind of overwhelming, my seat used to vibrate and that kind of bother me. I6SW is not Loud, but it does what I want, like & feel the bass in my chest. every day get's better and better. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-21-2011, 12:03 PM	#1593
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Coolness! Now we need to move that stage back to the hood... You know, it's funny, we're converging with our systems. I just realized last night that my L6SEs fit in my doors. They put out at least as much mid bass as they do in the kicks. This means I can move my mid ranges down to the kicks...AND... wait for it, you're going to like this put two sealed ID8s in the passenger's footwell. I've got so much power on the sub amp that I could run 12 of the little 8s. :) I think you might like that! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-22-2011, 09:08 AM	#1595
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Dang I really want to hear one of your systems....I need a vacation,lol __________________

10-22-2011, 01:54 PM	#1597
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	D, I was going to say wait on sinking the mid into the kick. Let me do mine first so you can work off my mistakes. That being said, we have different mids. My SEs have a neo motor. With that in mind, I can snug mine almost INTO the side of the kick. lemme show a pic of the area: The SEs will fit into that area when I place the baffle for the speaker on top of the hole. That means one can actually put the mid range IN the kick. Oh...what do you think about me taking the glove box out (since I'll be in the Pro/Am class for IASCA next year) and bringing the 15" up front? MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 10-22-2011 at 04:19 PM.

10-22-2011, 04:32 PM	#1599
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Devilish little plan! the enclosure only needs to be 12x15x15 overall. That's something like 1.56^3 of enclosure space. The enclosure i have in the back now gets LOW with its response, I'm working with a 1.75-2^3 enclosure at this moment. I don't store anything in the glove box anyway, so it wouldn't be much of a loss. Anything I do store can be put into the center console. Derick likes that IDQ 12 up front? :) Imagine a 15" with 3 times the power at least. That would also allow me to bump my mid bass and mid range frequencies up since localiztion wouldn't be an issue. Less stress on everything. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-23-2011, 03:21 AM	#1602
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Shit son! You opened it up. I'm keeping mine in tact... Put a 1/2" baffle on that shit and glass it in! Glass it into the stock kick panel... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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