HACKED - Page 17 - Toyota Yaris Forums

musiclysweet18 · 10-20-2008, 01:44 AM

I never get on this site but I used to a lot when I first got my car, but im very upset about this. This was a great website for the Yaris lovers everywhere! Well I will try to help as much as I can now

dlinkwit27 · 10-20-2008, 01:48 AM

Ok, I have read this entire thread, and I have something to say. First off:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuyachris84

This is like 9/11 for yarisworld... lol

Damn terrorist!

No it is not. Thousands of people lost their lives in that event. Thousands more have died in the effects of that event. What was lost here? Some threads and post counts. A few numbers on a website. For those of us who actually lost someone or knows someone who lost someone in the real 9/11 or the wars that followed (no matter whether or not you support them) this is an extremely ignorant and offensive comment.

To the admin: We need to know what all is missing. IP Logs, passwords, personal messages? The members of this board need to know what sort of personal information was compromised. I strongly advise everyone to change their password if their account was kept alive, and to use a different one if you need to re-register. The same goes with e-mail addresses.

To the vendors: The members here would appreciate it if you stay, but also please understand the administrator's point of view also. While I do not know the exact details behind the payments, the way it looks from the outside is that as a financial contributor, the vendors contributed very little to the upkeep of the site. The fact is that the admin could potentially make more money by using google ads or another service. It is his site, and he has every right to use it as he sees fit.

Likewise, it is the vendors' money and if they wish to take their business elsewhere, that is their right. I would strongly encourage them to look at the member support they receive here. While you may lose a sub forum and banner ads, the admin has not specifically stated that you cannot continue to post your products here. So, I would suggest sticking around, advertise using your sig, and when you have a new product or group buy, make a thread about it. I highly doubt that the number of customers you get drops significantly due to lack of a specific forum section.

Not only that, but look at your cost benefit analysis. How many purchases need to be made to make up for your payment to the board? Again, I am not claiming to know the details of the agreement, but if your website is configured properly, you can easily track what visits originated from this site, and what they bought. Also, not to be cynical, but how many boards are there really for advertising for a Yaris?

While the hacking was unfortunate, it was only that. This is a board. Life goes on. Nobody's car was actually stolen, nobody but the admin was harmed (yet), so life goes on. Quit worrying about your post counts, the admin can restore them if he really needs to. Go on about your life and move on.

jambo101 · 10-20-2008, 06:13 AM

Is there some reason a lot of members changed user names?

jambo101 · 10-20-2008, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlinkwit27

Before I read the whole thread, THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT LOSE YOUR ACCOUNTS CHANGE YOUR PW ASAP!

Why would i need to change my password? and why have a lot of members changed their user names?

DFA · 10-20-2008, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Is there some reason a lot of members changed user names?

Prolly just people bored with their old usernames...

*YarisBueller* · 10-20-2008, 07:00 AM

Just catching up on the nights posts and well said everyone! Its great to see the vast majority of ppl ready to rebuild. Theres no sense in trying to beat each other up over this as the only people that loose is our community and the people who win are the people who like to see harm to the community. We are where we are and have to live with it. Again to the people who want me to fry over this, I have a tremendous amount of pain and guilt over this and a few black and blue marks on my fists from pounding the walls. But at this point, being angry isnt what helps the site get back online and running, being focused on the task at hand is.

On the vendors issue, I can say for sure its during times of trouble like this that the people with integrity stand up and offer help (some with big monetary donations) and others just act selfish and whine. Only 1 vendor has asked for his money back and got it back; the rest have all said they want to stay and its notable that some really stood up for the community!

The issue of what was compromised. I don't think the hacker took a copy of the forum database for himself since it was nearly 3GB in size and to transfer something that large would require SSH and or FTP. And neither SSH or FTP was used to get in. So it would seem nothing was taken in terms of email addresses or PMs. What was probably done was a MySQL attack where he was able to wipe out the databases using the server against itself basicly.

What we have planned/done. So far all the software has been upgraded and/or downgraded to more secure versions and i'm lining up an entirely new server for us to use which adds not only computing power but also a higher grade of service provider who can give us additional secuity features. This move to a new computer will take some time since I want to let the dust settle on this issue before attempting a move of the entire forum to a new computer. We also have outsourced daily backups to offsite locations so our data is secure from this point forward.

Thanks again to everyone who has stood up, been vocal, united and have begun to recreate alot of the lost information. This kind of effort is something i've only seen on YW and really will benefit everyone on this forum.

ToddR · 10-20-2008, 08:17 AM

Hurray backups! Boooo hackers!

Sucks now, but it'll get better.

Klink10 · 10-20-2008, 08:25 AM

May I ask which vendor decided to leave. Also, I noted that kargoboy reposted but his business was YarisUniverse if I'm not mistaken. What a shame....felt like 9-11 all over again.

Okay upon further review delete about Kargoboy guess he decided to change to this instead of YarisUniverse.....My bad

dlinkwit27 · 10-20-2008, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Why would i need to change my password? and why have a lot of members changed their user names?

Because depending on what was taken they could have had a list of member names and passwords, which would mean they could take your account at a later date, or if you use the same password for multiple accounts with that name, they could use that to break into your e-mail, AIM, other boards, etc.

hatchbackkid82 · 10-20-2008, 09:13 AM

This really blows. My post count dropped. So damn frustrating

*tk-421* · 10-20-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YarisBueller

Just catching up on the nights posts and well said everyone!

Thanks for the update, YB!
I for one congratulate you on taking the right steps to preventing this issue from ever happening again. I'm sure that the forums will be stronger in every aspect from now on.

Long live YW!

PreciousPups4U · 10-20-2008, 10:44 AM

Agreed. Relatively new here (May 08), but have really appreciated all the help and info with the Yaris. Everyone has been great to deal with and very patient with what to some I am sure are stupid questions, but if you don't know then you don't know, right? Never done ANYTHING to a car before, so this whole modding thing is new to me. Without YW I would never have known NEEDED springs or a sway bar.

sanityassassinv2 · 10-20-2008, 11:19 AM

YW is a great site...it has helped me out quite a bit and it makes me feel good that I have helped others as well. Fortuantely, there aren't a lot of people like this asshole on YW (see: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1260316).

Shroomster · 10-20-2008, 11:57 AM

yeah....

Shroomster · 10-20-2008, 12:00 PM

no idea I don't remeber him being a douche either...but meh whatever....

darthbauer · 10-20-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroomster

no idea I don't remeber him being a douche either...but meh whatever....

Apparently he is though. Oh well.

sqcomp · 10-20-2008, 02:00 PM

*grumble*

Let's go find a FIT and turn it over on it's top!

Where'd I put my pitchfork?

J/K

advocate · 10-20-2008, 03:04 PM

they can't keep us down, we're already on the bottom since we drive the shortest car on the market =)

way too many cool people and way too much good information for one hack to keep YW down. Although I had to re-register, the only thing I'm distraught over is the wealth of DIY and helpful posts lost, not that I lost my postcount or anything like that!

edit: hooray for 2nd time 1st post =)

10-20-2008, 01:44 AM	#289
musiclysweet18 Drives: 2007 yaris sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: santa maria, ca Posts: 5	Im sad I never get on this site but I used to a lot when I first got my car, but im very upset about this. This was a great website for the Yaris lovers everywhere! Well I will try to help as much as I can now

10-20-2008, 08:25 AM	#296
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	May I ask which vendor decided to leave. Also, I noted that kargoboy reposted but his business was YarisUniverse if I'm not mistaken. What a shame....felt like 9-11 all over again. Okay upon further review delete about Kargoboy guess he decided to change to this instead of YarisUniverse.....My bad Last edited by Klink10; 10-20-2008 at 08:31 PM.

10-20-2008, 10:44 AM	#300
PreciousPups4U I really LOVE this car!!! View User's Garage Drives: 08 Bayou Blue LB AT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lexington, SC USA Posts: 887	Agreed. Relatively new here (May 08), but have really appreciated all the help and info with the Yaris. Everyone has been great to deal with and very patient with what to some I am sure are stupid questions, but if you don't know then you don't know, right? Never done ANYTHING to a car before, so this whole modding thing is new to me. Without YW I would never have known NEEDED springs or a sway bar. __________________ Cindy “If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.” - Will Rogers

10-20-2008, 02:00 PM	#305
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	grumble Let's go find a FIT and turn it over on it's top! Where'd I put my pitchfork? J/K __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-20-2008, 06:13 AM	#291
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	Is there some reason a lot of members changed user names?

10-20-2008, 07:00 AM	#294
YarisBueller Administrator View User's Garage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	Just catching up on the nights posts and well said everyone! Its great to see the vast majority of ppl ready to rebuild. Theres no sense in trying to beat each other up over this as the only people that loose is our community and the people who win are the people who like to see harm to the community. We are where we are and have to live with it. Again to the people who want me to fry over this, I have a tremendous amount of pain and guilt over this and a few black and blue marks on my fists from pounding the walls. But at this point, being angry isnt what helps the site get back online and running, being focused on the task at hand is. On the vendors issue, I can say for sure its during times of trouble like this that the people with integrity stand up and offer help (some with big monetary donations) and others just act selfish and whine. Only 1 vendor has asked for his money back and got it back; the rest have all said they want to stay and its notable that some really stood up for the community! The issue of what was compromised. I don't think the hacker took a copy of the forum database for himself since it was nearly 3GB in size and to transfer something that large would require SSH and or FTP. And neither SSH or FTP was used to get in. So it would seem nothing was taken in terms of email addresses or PMs. What was probably done was a MySQL attack where he was able to wipe out the databases using the server against itself basicly. What we have planned/done. So far all the software has been upgraded and/or downgraded to more secure versions and i'm lining up an entirely new server for us to use which adds not only computing power but also a higher grade of service provider who can give us additional secuity features. This move to a new computer will take some time since I want to let the dust settle on this issue before attempting a move of the entire forum to a new computer. We also have outsourced daily backups to offsite locations so our data is secure from this point forward. Thanks again to everyone who has stood up, been vocal, united and have begun to recreate alot of the lost information. This kind of effort is something i've only seen on YW and really will benefit everyone on this forum.

10-20-2008, 08:17 AM	#295
ToddR Bacon! Drives: 2008 Red Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern IL Posts: 45	Hurray backups! Boooo hackers! Sucks now, but it'll get better.

10-20-2008, 09:13 AM	#298
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	This really blows. My post count dropped. So damn frustrating

10-20-2008, 11:19 AM	#301
sanityassassinv2 The poison in your poison Drives: 2008 Black Liftback MT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 75	YW is a great site...it has helped me out quite a bit and it makes me feel good that I have helped others as well. Fortuantely, there aren't a lot of people like this asshole on YW (see: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1260316).

10-20-2008, 11:57 AM	#302
Shroomster '07 to '12:2 wipers to 1? View User's Garage Drives: '12 5-door LE & '14 5-door LE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,999	yeah....

10-20-2008, 12:00 PM	#303
Shroomster '07 to '12:2 wipers to 1? View User's Garage Drives: '12 5-door LE & '14 5-door LE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,999	no idea I don't remeber him being a douche either...but meh whatever....

10-20-2008, 03:04 PM	#306
advocate Drives: car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,033	they can't keep us down, we're already on the bottom since we drive the shortest car on the market =) way too many cool people and way too much good information for one hack to keep YW down. Although I had to re-register, the only thing I'm distraught over is the wealth of DIY and helpful posts lost, not that I lost my postcount or anything like that! edit: hooray for 2nd time 1st post =)