Know by Toyota Yaris defect

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by MadMax

No, I don't work for Toyota and my Yaris is my first car by the manufacturer; but I probably have more time driving and owning cars than you have on this planet and your rant about a simple TSB is ridiculous!

As for integrity, I don't think you want to challenge me on that...

And learn how to spell...

Mad Max....I can see that customer satisfaction must truely be practiced in your business..sell defective products and some how make believe that it is OK because everyone else does it.....If you don't like my spelling.......I don't challenge your integrity .....you have already demonstrated it clearly.

[Stove]

I'm pretty sure the response to your poll speaks for it self.
"We have discovered a defect that Toyota has been aware of since Nov 2007.". Umm, this TSB was made public by Toyota close to 3 years ago, anybody that has taken a moment to look up TSB's has discovered it. It was posted on this site since at least Oct 2008 (Last time the post was edited). You've been a member here since 2008... I think you can see where I'm going with this.

If you're upset that it isn't covered on cars that are out of warranty, it really is unfortunate. Maybe in the future, you might want to check the Service Bulletins while your car is still under warranty. Don't wait for, or expect, the manufacturer to send you a notice.

While it is easier to blame Toyota, not looking sure isn't going to save you any money. Looking up TSB's takes a lot less effort than to "picket a Toyota dealership", I doubt you'll do either.

On a side note, with the recent activity of an ex-member whose name we shall not speak.... are we being trolled here?

[rslyk]

You are absolutely correct..... It is my fault that Toyota manufactured a defective
car and choses to not own up to it.... I did not bother to do anything other than
trust Toyota. My mistake, it won't happen again. I think you are missing the point....Why are you not championing an effort to let all Yaris owners know that if your vin is #xxxxxxxxx75126293 and below this problem sooner or later will bite you. You claim to be an all knowing Yaris owner who just happens to have a car that this defect does not apply. I'll bet that if you witness a rape.... if it is not YOUR daughter....she must have had it coming. I have experienced this kind of appathy and denial too many times in the past....when Ford told me that the misterious unintended accelleration of my Ford LTD didn't exsist... a recall followed ....when two different sets of my Firestone tires delaminated, one causing a roll over, they said it had never happened to anyone else before....a recall followed.... When a Force outboard motor broke off and jumped up into the boat with us, Brunswick said that was impossible...a recall followed...When my neighbors Toyota accelerated out of control.....Toyta claimed it was his fault... a recall has followed....what is the common thread ?.....in each case the manufacturer refused to acknowledge a defect untill the liability was to big to deny and the cost of ignoring it rose to a value greater than sending out a TSB and hoping the clock runs out. This defect will not kill anyone but is a unresolved defect none the less...When this failure happens, Toyota will sell $1000 worth of parts each time it occurs. I am really glad that YOUR Toyota is not affected....You are right the Poll says it all.

[Billiam]

Like it or not...recalls are issued concerning safety issues. TSBs are issued for issues that may effect some vehicles, but not all and are rarely safety related. All vehicles, by all manufacturers have TSBs.

[thebarber]

man, you and your friends have bad luck w/ cars!

im not saying toyota is without fault, my 04 matrix xrs has plenty of problems with it.

instead of a rogue engine code, why not go after toyota's shitty paint that chips if you look at it funny. or how the 1zzfe transmission suck and usually wear out by 150000kms. or how the 2zz 6spd clutch in 03/04 matrixs prematurely wears out....

you seem to be barking up the wrong tree with your crusade on this site, it seems.

good luck rslyk, you're going to need it.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by rslyk

Mad Max....I can see that customer satisfaction must truely be practiced in your business..sell defective products and some how make believe that it is OK because
everyine else does it.....If you don't like my spelling.......I don't challenge your
integrity you have already demonstrated it clearly.

My "business" for almost the past 30 years has been providing national security so dumbasses like you can spout their stupid opinions freely.

Obviously you must be a "satisfied customer," because you have the ability to spew such nonsense without someone cracking your ignorant skull in!

You're welcome!

Now go away, troll; you're giving Texas a bad name!

[sickpuppy1]

I can see a recall if it is safety related, or will affect a large percentage of vehicles. If it is something that will effect only a small percentage in only certain situations then a recall is not called for. They did not knowingly build them like this, but found out afterward,and corrected as an ongoing build modification,and issued the TSB for the rest,so integrity is intact as I see it. If they knew it and continued to build it like that anyways, that would be another issue.
With your luck in vehicles, I was going to suggest the bus line, but I dont think they have seatbelts and no airbags for sure. But then again, you'd probably get strangled by the belt or a black eye from the bag so......good luck and watch your back,there out to get you!! lol

[sickpuppy1]

And by the way,THANK YOU MAX !!!!

[Stove]

Originally Posted by rslyk

I'll bet that if you witness a rape.... if it is not YOUR daughter....she must have had it coming. I have experienced this kind of appathy and denial too many times in the past....

This supports your argument how? If you want to discuss how and when people might report a crime, I would suggest the "Off-Topic" section of this forum.

I was looking for the Ford recall and I can't find a recall notice for any year of the Ford LTD regarding unintended acceleration, what year was your LTD?

My Yaris isn't my first car, it isn't even my 10th. I've had cars that had recalls issued against them and a few Service Bulletins as well. My current car will probably have a few Service Bulletins issued against it within the next year or two and I'll watch for them. It has already had one recall. It's over a vehicle capacity sticker, a B.S. recall in my opinion but it's still a recall. I don't assume it's everyone else's responsibility to keep me informed about things I own, nor do I wait until my warranty is up to "discover" the things I should have had serviced.

Recall does not equal Service Bulletin, you aren't going to see a recall on your current issue.

[tomato]

Stove, ^ you beat me to it.

I was wondering how we got from Toyota to rapes?!!

OP, you know this is an Toyota Yaris enthusiasts' forum, right?

You asked an ethical / highly subjective question "is Toyota honorable?" I think you got your answer in the poll, loud and clear. It's not apathy, it's how we feel!

The rest of your argument is debatable, but don't feel too bad if you're not getting the response you expect from this board. You do know this is an "enthusiasts' board," right?

Now if you had mentioned the paint, I think you might have gotten a completely different response from this board

By the way, everybody takes a deep breath in here , yeah you too, Max

[tomato]

PS. The Yaris is the very first car I buy with a little bit of manufacturer's warranty on it. Most of the cars I've driven had no warranty. Some of the cars I bought were way older than me (back in my younger days) and some were probably unsafe to drive by today's standards (come to think of it, by yesterday's standards, too). Maybe that's why I'm not too worried about my Yaris.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by tomato

By the way, everybody takes a deep breath in here , yeah you too, Max

Oh, I'm breathing fine! I learned long ago not to allow idiots--especially on the Internet--to get me all worked up.

But I also don't take insults lightly, especially when it comes to my integrity.

And being that the OP is from the great state of Texas, he should know better; as those are what are termed as "fighting words" in this state. But I have a pretty good idea of what kind of individual we are talking about here. He doesn't have anything to offer on this forum, and I honestly don't expect him to be on here too long...

Oh, and thanks sickpuppy1; I appreciate the kind words!

Cheers! M2

[Mad Goon]

Meh, "honor" is something that's hard to come by these days. I don't think ANY company can say they practice "honorable" procedures...

Do I think Toyota makes good cars? Of course I do. I wouldn't have taken the time to register on a Toyota Yaris message board if I didn't.

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by thebarber

man, you and your friends have bad luck w/ cars!

im not saying toyota is without fault, my 04 matrix xrs has plenty of problems with it.

instead of a rogue engine code, why not go after toyota's shitty paint that chips if you look at it funny. or how the 1zzfe transmission suck and usually wear out by 150000kms. or how the 2zz 6spd clutch in 03/04 matrixs prematurely wears out....

you seem to be barking up the wrong tree with your crusade on this site, it seems.

good luck rslyk, you're going to need it.

The barber.....I certainly agree with you it is an uphill climb.....but if one Yaris owner
with this defect can avoid a $1000 parts purchase it worth the abuse....I see by
your profile you own an 07 hatch back..down load Tsb #eg048-07 ....if it applies to
your car spend the $25 on parts before it fails....

[rslyk]

Stove...The Ford recall was on the cruise control that would for no reason
go to wide open throtle....it was in the mid 80's and was phantom problem
that took Ford years to live up to...I believe it was finally linked to a ground
path problem....

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by rslyk

The barber.....I certainly agree with you it is an uphill climb.....but if one Yaris owner
with this defect can avoid a $1000 parts purchase it worth the abuse....I see by
your profile you own an 07 hatch back..down load Tsb #eg048-07 ....if it applies to
your car spend the $25 on parts before it fails....

if it fails, so be it. likely be exasperated by the supercharger im puting on.

if it dies and i cant get warranty to replace it, ill buy a used 1nzfe and put it in myself, or try my hand at installing a 2zrfe...any tsb's on that engine?

[rslyk]

Sickpuppy....I don't believe that there has been anywhere I have called for a recall..
my point is that if you own one of these defective vehicles and it has not failed yet..
spend the $25 for the redesigned part and avoid the $1000 purchase of the part it will cause to fail...

[rslyk]

Originally Posted by thebarber

if it fails, so be it. likely be exasperated by the supercharger im puting on.

if it dies and i cant get warranty to replace it, ill buy a used 1nzfe and put it in myself, or try my hand at installing a 2zrfe...any tsb's on that engine?

Rock on.....I like you style.