It's just a phone ...

[Rain]

Whatever happened to product testing and quality control?

[Vioz]

heres an actual example of dropped calls not sure if you guys had a chance to watch this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03PQy...layer_embedded

[GeneralDon7]

Originally Posted by tomato

to get back to the phone, we have 3 or 4 at work, and they all have the problem, if you hold them tightly from the bottom. If you loosen the grip, the bars come back. I don't see it as a deal breaker, myself, because you can easily correct the problem by loosening the grip or putting a bumper around it. The deal breaker is the crappy network and paying through the nose to get half-ass signals isn't my idea of good service.

All these phones have problems, though. my EVO has light leakage and a little bit of "play" when you press on the screen (you wonder if dust is gonna get in there in the long run?) . the N1 had "touch" issues (you had to press buttons from the top half, the bottom half didn't register, which was annoying at times but not a big deal, and possibly antenna issues as well although I never noticed that myself but to be honest, didn't test thoroughly for that). The BB bold I loved so much also had signal issues as well, jumped from Edge to 3G erratically (which I initially blamed on poor signal but I understand RIM corrected the issue by releasing an update months later?).

Still, all these phones, including the iPhone4, are pretty impressive devices, the next best thing to having a computer in your pocket...

I think if the antenna issue on the iPhone 4 is so widespread, a good move for AAPL would be to give people a free bumper and send them on their way with a smile. The attitude that "hey you're holding it wrong" may not sit well with most people and makes AAPL come across as @ssholes.

Agreed every phone has there issues, my gf wants the iphone but doesnt want AT&Ts service or lack there of, though now she wants the Evo. I'm hoping Verizon has learned from at&T when the iphone comes to there network which is rumored soon. I have come across connection issues with our 25+ BB Curve 8350i on nextels network. We had to have an internal network installed to fix the issues. Did anyone see the video at Apples developer conference where Steve asked everyone to shut there wifi off cause he couldnt get it to connect and then he couldnt get it to work with at&t. I hope that the android iphone palm microsoft fued drives this industry to even further advancement and comes out with something even greater.

[Vioz]

If it wasn't for the iphone, at&t would've been either out of business or another crappy service like metro PCS or cricket. Otherwise at&t could put whatever price for their service and say whatever they want on their advertisements because they have those hardcore apple iphone lovers.

[Yaris Hilton]

Here in Bristol, Tennessee, my AT&T voice service drops out several times crossing town between my phone and office, and there's a route across town I have to avoid taking because of a long dead zone. Reception's spotty right around my house. Across the Interstate the signal drops out entirely, and I can't go to the rifle range when I'm on call because I can't return calls on my phone when I get beeped. I'm looking right at a cell tower a few hundred yards away, apparently it's Verizon's. All of southwest Virginia is dead to AT&T.

[Vioz]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Here in Bristol, Tennessee, my AT&T voice service drops out several times crossing town between my phone and office, and there's a route across town I have to avoid taking because of a long dead zone. Reception's spotty right around my house. Across the Interstate the signal drops out entirely, and I can't go to the rifle range when I'm on call because I can't return calls on my phone when I get beeped. I'm looking right at a cell tower a few hundred yards away, apparently it's Verizon's. All of southwest Virginia is dead to AT&T.

if your contract isn't up, its better to just switch to verizon, at&t is the most expensive phone company out in america for no reason, they overprice people to support the iphone's service, you can only have so many people on one network before it drains everyones signal. You can probably save about 10$ a month which is 240$ for a 2 year contract with verizon for better service and better selection of phones.

Hell if you been with at&t for years and years possibly verizon would pay for your termination fees, t-mobile was offering to pay for my termination fees if i switched to them from verizon which was 300$+ back then.

[eTiMaGo]

So if it's just a phone, it's just money, right Steve? :D

[tomato]

Hey, good morning Thomas ;)

@ Yaris Hilton: I would switch if I were you. I believe VZW's plans are a little more expensive than AT&T but not by much, and the coverage is supposed to be better. It is definitely better here in the Bay Area.

You can try the phone for 2 weeks and see if the coverage works out for you. You can put your AT&T plan on hold for something like $10 a month, I think, while you try the other networks, and when you're ready, just port your number over to whatever phone you found works best for you.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

At least people are finally willing to criticize Apple. I remember when...

So do I. I also remember the early days, when they were the underdog

Originally Posted by GeneralDon7

Agreed every phone has there issues, my gf wants the iphone but doesnt want AT&Ts service or lack there of, though now she wants the Evo. I'm hoping Verizon has learned from at&T when the iphone comes to there network which is rumored soon. I have come across connection issues with our 25+ BB Curve 8350i on nextels network. We had to have an internal network installed to fix the issues. Did anyone see the video at Apples developer conference where Steve asked everyone to shut there wifi off cause he couldnt get it to connect and then he couldnt get it to work with at&t. I hope that the android iphone palm microsoft fued drives this industry to even further advancement and comes out with something even greater.

Did he, really? How embarrassing for him. No, I didn't see that. Got a link to a Youtube clip maybe?

I remember when Windows crashed on Bill Gates's presentation, right in front of a room packed with journalists. One guy in the back said "Get a Mac!" That was on the news yeah, technology isn't perfect.

[tomato]

By the way, Apple has dropped the restocking fee for the iPhone 4

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/07/02/a...estocking-fee/

a good move, I think.

[GeneralDon7]

Originally Posted by tomato

So do I. I also remember the early days, when they were the underdog



Did he, really? How embarrassing for him. No, I didn't see that. Got a link to a Youtube clip maybe?

I remember when Windows crashed on Bill Gates's presentation, right in front of a room packed with journalists. One guy in the back said "Get a Mac!" That was on the news yeah, technology isn't perfect.

Heres the link, its pretty funny, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxZZauBN2pU

I agree every tech has its flaws, and I have seen the presentation you mentioned, especially when it comes to Microsoft showing off the voice recognition software in Windows. Though Apple makes it seem like there products are perfect due to marketing. Though they just released a statement saying the iphone 4 software that calculates the bars is off by 2 bars, and will require a software update.

[33OH]

My brother only had to drive 2 and a half hours one-way to get his iPhone 4 replaced. Good customer service.

[GeneralDon7]

Originally Posted by ryank

My brother only had to drive 2 and a half hours one-way to get his iPhone 4 replaced. Good customer service.

Gotta love it, Why did he get it replaced?

[KRAZGRL]

I've been away from this forum for a little bit and figured a great way to get back on board (no pun intended) is to post up on here...

So my brother is INSANE. He decided he wanted the new iphone4, so he sold his current iphone3 a few days before the new one came out (thinking he would get ahead of all the people selling theirs and the prices dropped). Long story short: he sold his to a guy in India for $460. Since he needs his phone for work, he HAD to wait out the lines on the day of the release... plus, he was pretty much making money to buy a new phone since he got so much for his old one.

Well, 14, yeah... FOURTEEN hours later... he got the new iphone4. He got to the mall at 3:45am and after 14 hours had the new phone. He said that if he had known it would have taken so long, he wouldn't have waited. But after hour 4, he figured he put in the time and didn't want it to be for nothing. lol Being the nice younger sister I am, I visited him, brought him sodas, held his place in line for bathroom breaks, and kept him company for as long as I could stand it.

Looking at how much they're going for now, I wish I waited it out and bought one for myself that I could just turn around and sell. Geezus!

[tomato]

Welcome back Kasey!!

people told me i should have bought the first iPhone when it came out (people were making money reselling them on e-bay back then) since I had an opportunity to get a one on the day of the release, but I don't know, these things are not guaranteed, and you still have to front the price of the phone

[KRAZGRL]

Originally Posted by tomato

Welcome back Kasey!!

people told me i should have bought the first iPhone when it came out (people were making money reselling them on e-bay back then) since I had an opportunity to get a one on the day of the release, but I don't know, these things are not guaranteed, and you still have to front the price of the phone

Thanks!

Yeah, there was no way I was going to front $4xx just to not have a guarantee that I would get it all back.

But seriously... I think I could make money buying cheap iphone battery packs at monoprice and selling them to all the people in line who's iphones were dead by 7am since they were using them all night. That, or to hold people's spot while they made bathroom breaks. Next time there's an apple release... I'm so there with seat cushions, batteries, and credit card reader. lol

[eTiMaGo]

iPhone4's are selling on the grey import market here for about $1,500... anybody wanna ship me 5 or 10? :D

[DevilGirl]

Originally Posted by Vioz

If it wasn't for the iphone, at&t would've been either out of business or another crappy service like metro PCS or cricket. Otherwise at&t could put whatever price for their service and say whatever they want on their advertisements because they have those hardcore apple iphone lovers.

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Here in Bristol, Tennessee, my AT&T voice service drops out several times crossing town between my phone and office, and there's a route across town I have to avoid taking because of a long dead zone. Reception's spotty right around my house. Across the Interstate the signal drops out entirely, and I can't go to the rifle range when I'm on call because I can't return calls on my phone when I get beeped. I'm looking right at a cell tower a few hundred yards away, apparently it's Verizon's. All of southwest Virginia is dead to AT&T.

Originally Posted by Vioz

if your contract isn't up, its better to just switch to verizon, at&t is the most expensive phone company out in america for no reason, they overprice people to support the iphone's service, you can only have so many people on one network before it drains everyones signal. You can probably save about 10$ a month which is 240$ for a 2 year contract with verizon for better service and better selection of phones.

Hell if you been with at&t for years and years possibly verizon would pay for your termination fees, t-mobile was offering to pay for my termination fees if i switched to them from verizon which was 300$+ back then.

Hmm, let's see. I have been with Cingular/AT&T since 2001. I have never had a problem with service except for in areas where ALL carriers had service issues (i.e. Delaware Water Gap). I have traveled with my phone frequently. My dad has AT&T (formerly Cingular) since before I got my service with them. He travels for a living (San Fran, Texas, NM, Oregon, LA, Maine, NH, NJ, DC, etc, etc.). Has yet to report issues of lack of service.

I had Verizon for an Aircard. Sucked! I had Nextel which was eaten up by Sprint. Sucked! I think the only one I did not try was T-Mobile. But then again, I don't have to. My fiance had T-Mobile, and when he reported that he could not make calls while inside his house, he was told by the rep to just walk outside to place calls. Great customer service there!!

Very rarely do I not have a signal on my phone. Very rarely do my calls get dropped.

As far as price goes. I've compared between the different companies to verify that I am not overpaying for my cell service. I still find that AT&T is the best price for what I get. I have 5 lines on my plan. We utilize a lower minute plan due to rollover minutes, not to mention the free mobile to mobile that AT&T offers when calling any other AT&T customer. Family texting plan, unlimited, for $30 that covers all 5 lines. Final price would be around $220 (after taxes), but less due to 15% discount I get due to where I work.

Tell me where I can get similar service for that kind of pricing with 5 lines (one of which being up in NY).