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Old 04-18-2012, 07:34 PM   #19
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These bars don't change handling in a straight line, they don't make the suspension stiffer that way, though the car will resist buffeting from winds and passing semis a LOT better.
Acutually, it did stop the wandering at highway speeds for me for what ever reason.

Also, when one thinks abouit it, unless both wheels are focrced up (by the road) by exacly the same amount every time, the suspension will feel a bit stiffer but, in a very postive way.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:40 PM   #20
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Thanks everyone looks like the 23mm is the one. Will order it tomorrow.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:49 PM   #21
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the order confirmation email and tracking number email were 46 minutes apart
what?! That's way too slow.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:45 PM   #22
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Ended up ordering Whiteline 22mm Adjustable Rear Swaybar from
Micro Image. Will post my findings after some testing.

http://shop.microimageonline.com/sea...ords=WHITELINE

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Old 04-20-2012, 02:46 PM   #23
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^ I packed that!
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #24
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how does this compare to the TRD sway bar?
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:32 PM   #25
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how does this compare to the TRD sway bar?
Just as good if not better and much cheaper.
Also, MI is great to deal with.

IMO, all TRD parts are way overpriced.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:51 PM   #26
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I negotiated my TRD sway bar into part of buying the car.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:43 PM   #27
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Whiteline 22mm adjustable rear swaybar is installed. Nicely made, well fitting, and adjustable to boot.
I am obliged to Jeff from Micro Image for suggesting this product. I would not change it for anything.
One part I did not like are the supplied “U” bolts to support centre bushings. How to adjust correct tension with round clamp fitted on triangular Yaris stock was beyond me.
When installing the “U” bolt I new this will not do, but I pressed on. As I kept tightening and stretching the “U” bolt the nut ended up at the end of the treaded part with clamp still not tight enough to my satisfaction.

I started the lathe and made up two triangular brackets with 7/16 NC thread and 3/8” rod bent with help of the heat. I made the brackets from stainless steel and used stainless steel nylock nut.

Pictures should explain everything.

Road test confirmed what everybody already said. Cornering is big difference. Took the exit off the highway with 40km speed limit at 80km and did not think much of it. I set up the bar in it’s most aggressive position.

Do not know if it is my imagination but driving strait it appears like car is little harsher. Best way to describe it is like if the tires were overinflated. Can anybody confirm that?















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Old 04-25-2012, 10:52 PM   #28
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^ Nice install, and I like your mod.

As long as the bracket is firmly attached to the beam axle, there is no "correct" tension. If the bushing is installed so that the bar is just held firmly in place, it will perform its function, which is to allow movement but resist twisting. For example, the Ultra Racing bar, which works quite well, isn't attached to the axle at all.

But, I'll say it again: I like your mod and it would be cool if they made it that way.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:35 AM   #29
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^ Nice install, and I like your mod.

As long as the bracket is firmly attached to the beam axle, there is no "correct" tension. If the bushing is installed so that the bar is just held firmly in place, it will perform its function, which is to allow movement but resist twisting. For example, the Ultra Racing bar, which works quite well, isn't attached to the axle at all.

But, I'll say it again: I like your mod and it would be cool if they made it that way.
Thanks for the kind word. Sometimes striving for perfection drives me crazy.

That is why I am so grateful to have purchased the Whiteline bar which includes the bushings attached to the beam axle. Most automobiles had these bushings in the past. I think it is more solid design. I am sure the supplied “U” clamps would work just fine, but since I have the capability in the shop to improve it, then why not?

I am also planning to change the attachment to the outer hole as I find the stiff setting on the inside hole to be to much as when one side wheel hits the bump on the road the force is transmitted aggressively to the other wheel, Hence giving me a feeling of overinflated tires. Nice to have the adjustment.
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:05 AM   #30
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Hi,
Just wondering.. by adjusting the stiffness, will that make the sway bar less stiff than 22mm.. probably will provide similar stiffness level to a 19mm bar? just curious on how does an adjustable sway bar works..
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:09 PM   #31
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Just wondering.. by adjusting the stiffness, will that make the sway bar less stiff than 22mm.. probably will provide similar stiffness level to a 19mm bar? just curious on how does an adjustable sway bar works..
Here is the link to their website that should shine some light on the subject. http://www.whiteline.com.au/vehicle_swaybars.php
You will see the number of holes in the end of the bar. When you use the hole furthest away from the center of bar (see my photo #2) you get softer response. Hopefully Jeff from Micro Image will confirm this but difference between the holes is like using 23.mm or 19mm bar.

I just changed my setting this morning and it took me about 5 minutes. Have not road tested the car yet. As I said before I found the stiff setting too aggressive for my liking but that may be a good news for demanding drivers.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:21 PM   #32
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That is correct, outer holes will make it softer and inner holes will make it stiffer.
It's difficult to compare to the UR 19mm & 23mm bars since this bar mounts differently and has different attachment points via Urethane drop links vs. solid on the UR bar.

Ratz, we have not had any feedback on harshness, Please keep us updated and let us know how it feels on the softer setting.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:57 PM   #33
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Just to update everyone about the softer setting on Whiteline swaybar.

I prefer the softer setting for my type of driving. The condition of overinflated tires like basically disappeared and car handles beautifully. I am one happy camper.

Now, should I ever need to race another car on a winding and twisty road, I would likely adjust it back to the stiffer setting. Over all, I think Whiteline achieved a nice balance.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:46 AM   #34
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When's the UR 23mm coming back in stock?
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:59 AM   #35
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I'll update with my experience once it's on and driven around for a bit.
Part arrived on schedule but I didn't get around to the installation until this past weekend. The test drive was fun, definitely a noticeable reduction in roll around corners. If you are thinking about this upgrade, I cast my vote for yes, go for it!
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:49 PM   #36
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Part arrived on schedule but I didn't get around to the installation until this past weekend. The test drive was fun, definitely a noticeable reduction in roll around corners. If you are thinking about this upgrade, I cast my vote for yes, go for it!
I take it you purchased the 23mm Ultra Racing. Can you please post some pictures? I would like to see the fit as Ultra Racing bars do not use the two additional bushings like Whiteline does.

What counts is you are happy. Congratulations.
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