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mikenacarato · 11-04-2008, 05:38 PM

ya, i would rather have the oem tach then any other one. just looks oem to say the least. i wonder if i can get them to install it for me before i pick my car up

PetersRedYaris · 11-04-2008, 06:14 PM

I agree the OEM tach is the only way to make it look right. I would think the dealer would have no problem installing it for you as taking it to the dealer is really the only correct way to swap a cluster. Don't let them charge you for over 1 hour of labor though, the cluster comes out super easy...

mikenacarato · 11-04-2008, 08:14 PM

ill do the work myself thats not an issue, its programming if any that i would need them to do.

JosephDoc · 11-05-2008, 04:30 PM

I found out the list price is around $780, 09' S-LB (USA)

. I did not ask about mileage reprogram but they told me 20% restocking charge.

Can we host a chip-in pot for this project if restocking apply?? (j/k, Ill wait!)

I dropped by the dealer 2 weeks ago but did not see any 09' model yet, and talking about this cluster at parts counter is kind of vague for now. (I actually called in the wholesale line with my company account).

mikenacarato · 11-05-2008, 04:33 PM

list is 780 so if the sale price is above 600 you getting owned.

JosephDoc · 11-05-2008, 04:41 PM

I am not even sure if the wholesale guy @ dealer knew what he was checking on. He sounded like "huh? wtf??" over the phone.

mikenacarato · 11-05-2008, 04:48 PM

i got off the phone with toyota now they said 480 for the cluster. 10% restock fee and they would have to program it as well. of course i get decent pricing as my company has a parts account with them.

JosephDoc · 11-05-2008, 06:57 PM

hmm... we should get more phone calls and find out the part number to compare. I am almost there just want to order one and see if it works or not.

mikenacarato · 11-05-2008, 07:54 PM

thats what i was going to do. but if anyone is wanting immediate results you will have to wait 6-8 weeks for my car to arrive.

IllusionX · 11-05-2008, 09:53 PM

they MIGHT or might not have the tools to set the mileage on those things.

i believe the mileage on a cluster is HARD WRITTEN for security reasons, so that nobody in ANY way can modify the mileage on a cluster.

BUT... anyone mind telling me why you would worry so much about what's written on the ODO ?

n2oinferno · 11-06-2008, 04:20 PM

Because if you report your mileage incorrectly, it's considered fraud, I believe.

BrazdonW · 11-06-2008, 06:37 PM

def fraud

PaidTimeOff · 11-06-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllusionX

BUT... anyone mind telling me why you would worry so much about what's written on the ODO ?

Because if you're selling the car through a private party sale, then you could tell them the odometer reading, they'll read it on the odometer in the dash, and they'll take your word for it even if it's incorrect. Average individuals do not have the tools to compare the odometer reading to the reading in the internal computer before they purchase the car, or even after.

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 07:47 PM

ya, i want to make sure toyota will be able to sync the clusters or flash it somehow so it reads correct mileage.

IllusionX · 11-07-2008, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaidTimeOff

Because if you're selling the car through a private party sale, then you could tell them the odometer reading, they'll read it on the odometer in the dash, and they'll take your word for it even if it's incorrect. Average individuals do not have the tools to compare the odometer reading to the reading in the internal computer before they purchase the car, or even after.

so.. you mind telling me why are you modifying it if you plan to sell it? :D

PaidTimeOff · 11-07-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllusionX

so.. you mind telling me why are you modifying it if you plan to sell it? :D

I'm not planning on selling it, but you never know what your situation will be down the road. And modifying the car does not make it unsellable.

You could also possibly run into warranty issues as well if the mileage on the odometer doesn't match up with the internal computer. It is FRAUD to tamper with these things and not have the proper paperwork for it.

IllusionX · 11-08-2008, 02:14 PM

how about swapping in a 235k miles 1nz engine in there? with the original cluster? :D

on a side note: toyota dealers here puts a sticker (i think it's government issued, i'm not sure as i never really looked at it) it writes the mileage the engine was swapped. i believe they do the same with clusters.

someone should short circuit their cluster, and tell me what their dealer actually do :)

firemachine69 · 11-08-2008, 10:26 PM

Mileage is kept in the ECU. Dash swaps do not affect it.

11-05-2008, 04:30 PM	#22
JosephDoc View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris 3D Join Date: May 2007 Location: CA, USA Posts: 264	I found out the list price is around $780, 09' S-LB (USA) . I did not ask about mileage reprogram but they told me 20% restocking charge. Can we host a chip-in pot for this project if restocking apply?? (j/k, Ill wait!) I dropped by the dealer 2 weeks ago but did not see any 09' model yet, and talking about this cluster at parts counter is kind of vague for now. (I actually called in the wholesale line with my company account). Last edited by JosephDoc; 11-05-2008 at 04:42 PM.

11-06-2008, 06:37 PM	#30
BrazdonW What kind of car is that? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 3d liftback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 571	def fraud __________________

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11-04-2008, 05:38 PM	#19
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	ya, i would rather have the oem tach then any other one. just looks oem to say the least. i wonder if i can get them to install it for me before i pick my car up

11-04-2008, 06:14 PM	#20
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	I agree the OEM tach is the only way to make it look right. I would think the dealer would have no problem installing it for you as taking it to the dealer is really the only correct way to swap a cluster. Don't let them charge you for over 1 hour of labor though, the cluster comes out super easy...

11-04-2008, 08:14 PM	#21
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	ill do the work myself thats not an issue, its programming if any that i would need them to do.

11-05-2008, 04:33 PM	#23
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	list is 780 so if the sale price is above 600 you getting owned.

11-05-2008, 04:41 PM	#24
JosephDoc View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris 3D Join Date: May 2007 Location: CA, USA Posts: 264	I am not even sure if the wholesale guy @ dealer knew what he was checking on. He sounded like "huh? wtf??" over the phone.

11-05-2008, 04:48 PM	#25
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	i got off the phone with toyota now they said 480 for the cluster. 10% restock fee and they would have to program it as well. of course i get decent pricing as my company has a parts account with them.

11-05-2008, 06:57 PM	#26
JosephDoc View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris 3D Join Date: May 2007 Location: CA, USA Posts: 264	hmm... we should get more phone calls and find out the part number to compare. I am almost there just want to order one and see if it works or not.

11-05-2008, 07:54 PM	#27
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	thats what i was going to do. but if anyone is wanting immediate results you will have to wait 6-8 weeks for my car to arrive.

11-05-2008, 09:53 PM	#28
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,887	they MIGHT or might not have the tools to set the mileage on those things. i believe the mileage on a cluster is HARD WRITTEN for security reasons, so that nobody in ANY way can modify the mileage on a cluster. BUT... anyone mind telling me why you would worry so much about what's written on the ODO ?

11-06-2008, 04:20 PM	#29
n2oinferno Drives: 96 Bonneville SSE/08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenwood, SC Posts: 14	Because if you report your mileage incorrectly, it's considered fraud, I believe.

11-06-2008, 07:47 PM	#32
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	ya, i want to make sure toyota will be able to sync the clusters or flash it somehow so it reads correct mileage.

11-08-2008, 02:14 PM	#35
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,887	how about swapping in a 235k miles 1nz engine in there? with the original cluster? :D on a side note: toyota dealers here puts a sticker (i think it's government issued, i'm not sure as i never really looked at it) it writes the mileage the engine was swapped. i believe they do the same with clusters. someone should short circuit their cluster, and tell me what their dealer actually do :)

11-08-2008, 10:26 PM	#36
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	Mileage is kept in the ECU. Dash swaps do not affect it.