Bush dodges a shoe attack!!

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by bobselectric

No instead we have a man who was given the opportunity to live his life as free as possible in a fledgling democracy, and he goes out and attacks the man and the nation which gave him that freedom.

One of the tenets of democracy is the freedom of speech. By throwing his shoes he was basically just flipping off Bush... expressing his opinion in an overt way that is familiar to him.

I would also like to point out that the Iraqi people never asked for our version of freedom, and every poll that has been done from the time of our invasion and throughout our occupation has shown that the Iraqis feel their life was better under Saddam. Much of the country still has spotty or entirely missing basic services (which they had in fairly good order under Saddam), and the Sunni/Shiite issue that Saddam kept under control via tyranny has now fomented and spilled out into the streets. Not a week goes by without some terroristic act between those two factions occurring.

Arm them one decade and invade them the next... no wonder no one trusts us, and no wonder at least one Iraqi found it prudent to let our President know that he is not happy with him.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by BailOut

I would also like to point out that the Iraqi people never asked for our version of freedom, and every poll that has been done from the time of our invasion and throughout our occupation has shown that the Iraqis feel their life was better under Saddam. Much of the country still has spotty or entirely missing basic services (which they had in fairly good order under Saddam), and the Sunni/Shiite issue that Saddam kept under control via tyranny has now fomented and spilled out into the streets. Not a week goes by without some terroristic act between those two factions occurring.

Arm them one decade and invade them the next... no wonder no one trusts us, and no wonder at least one Iraqi found it prudent to let our President know that he is not happy with him.

I don't buy parts of this poll.... things have been pretty rough in Iraq since the 1980s. They've had to fight two wars and then dealt with an occupation. Things might be worse now but they were not that good under Saddam.


On the other hand maybe the Poller didn't ask the right question? So I'll ask it of US posters here.


How would you feel if the Islamic World launched an economic embargo on the US? For five or ten years we cannot get enough oil. Food is scarce. Young kids easily die of disease. We become quite poor. In response the US Congress passes food rationing laws. Crime goes up and people are angry and frustrated. The dollar soon is worthless paper.

One day aircraft of the Islamic League bomb Washington and a few other major cities heavily. Our Navy is in mothballs and we have no nukes. The President issues an order for US troops to stand down. He or she negotiates a surrender and dissolves Congress.

The US Armed Forces are sent home.

The Islamic League begins to occupy the US. A force of millions enters the US through our ports, lands from troop transports and begins occupation duty. Any town larger than 50,000 citizens is occupied by Muslim Troops. Large "reaction forces" are stationed to quell unrest and are backed up by air assets.

They are here to spread the Word of God. They are here to free us of wickedness, gives us the peace of submission to Allah and to free us from the clutches of the wealthy, the wicked and the faithless.

You should be grateful to them, right?

Few of these troops speak English but expect you obey their commands. If you are driving to work and they set up a road block and you don't obey their commands they might shoot you. They can enter your homes at any time to find "terrorists" or "infidels" or just come around because they feel like it. You have to let them enter.

If one speaks to you and you don't understand they speak slowly. Finally they get angry and smack you. Sooner or later you'll pick up Arabic.


Since their mission to bring Islam to America they close the bars. Liquor is banned. Brewing your own beer or wine or distilling liquor will get your sent to jail. Selling liquor brings very hard penalties.

Churches are subject to a Dhimmi tax and are blown up if they harbor "militant critics of Islam".

The Islamic League forces everyone to either proclaim the Shahada or pay the Dhimmi tax. Anyone who refuses to do either is rounded up for re-education and is considered potentially hostile.

Some Americans, especially devout Christians and Jews, are arrested and taken to other countries where they are tortured into confessing that they are anti-Islamic. The worst of the worst are taken to Guantanamo and kept there as enemy combatants. Some come home from this "religious cleansing" either rabidly Islamic or frightened people.

In response some Christians and Jews, and quite a few Secular Humanists, form terror cells. They proclaim that those who are not with them are against them. Average Americans are caught in the middle. A visit to the Mall or the store could be a rendezvous with death from a bomb or shooter.

In response the Islamic League steps up investigations into terror. More people are arrested, more homes blown up and more people are investigated and worse.

If you go along with the Islamic League you're a traitor. Since the Islamic League is providing work you have to feed your family. Do you risk your life or feed your family?

The Islamic League proclaims to the world that they are "bringing the Word of God to a nation thirsty for Righteousness". They tell everyone that America ought to be grateful for this act of Salvation and Liberation from sin, lust and wickedness.

As a citizen of the American Islamic Republic you are expected to take off Fridays and work the rest of the week. If you are caught stealing they amputate your hands. If you commit adultery you could be stoned to death. Don't even ask what will happen if you are a homosexual - they'll drop a wall on you in some cases, especially Taliban troops.

If you are a woman and are found on the street without a veil you may be raped by Islamic Troops since you are being immodest. At the very least you'll be harassed. The local commanders do not do anything to stop any outrages, though the Islamic Republic states that sexual assault is not acceptable.

Women found without a male escort could also be raped. Some simply disappear never to be seen again.

Anyone who resists a Muslim Soldier may be shot on the spot, or their homes may be bombed from the air. Those who harbor terrorists can be arrested, tortured and shot.

Because there are not enough Muslim Troops to do the job wealthy Islamic Nations hire "private contractors" to supplement the ordinary troops. These contractors are powerfully armed and answer to no one. Soon you hear of stories where these contractors are doing awful things. The American Islamic Republic issues statements of complaint against these contractors. The Islamic League proclaims that once America is "fully submissive to God's Will" that the contractors will go home.

Car bombings begin in some cities. A group called "National Renaissance" claims responsibility. From time to time the lights go out as the "NR" stages another terror attack.

Soon electric power, which was not that reliable to begin with due to the Embargo this kind of crap makes it even more scarce. The Islamic League blames terrorists, even if it's just because of outdated power plants.


A huge "embassy" is built in Washington DC, on the site of of the Pentagon. This where the Islamic League will conduct business and help to "advise" the American Islamic Republic how to conduct its affairs.

In each city the Islamic League builds a "consulate". Soon you learn that the Islamic League is sending missionaries and administrators who will help shape America into a "righteous nation". You can tell who they are - they're the ones driving shiny new cars.

All schools must teach spoken Arabic. Children learn to read and write in Arabic. They also memorize the Koran. Children are encouraged to report parents who use alcohol or drugs or who say "things that are critical of the Islamic Republic". Children adopt Islamic names which they use in school and encourage their parents to acquire such a name. It's another way of finding out who is for God and who is against Him.

Naturally Israel is destroyed, and the surviving Jews are sent to America, where they will live in a sparsely populated part of the US. The rest of us are expected to keep watch on them and "contain them". These Jews, many of whom have military training, are kept under close watch by Islamic Troops. You hear rumors of atrocities but nobody really is sure.

The Internet is tightly censored and monitored. If you post something bad about the Islamic Republic you can expect some sort of inquiry.

One day a pollster comes to you. How do you feel about the Islamic League and their occupation, which is meant to bring the Word of God to you?

Are you grateful? Really?

Gene

[junorico24]

I just think alot of Iraqis had had enough wid dis BS. like gene would if it happened in his backyard, right? So stop the war in Iraq. And let's have peace. Buh the world is a crazy place indeed.