Bush dodges a shoe attack!!

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

Gene, The Sultan of Spin...I don't deny that half of what you said are true but I don't believe US invaded Iraq to quench the oppressions...

I wanted people to imagine how it would feel if militant purist form of Islam, say Wahabbism, inspired some nations to invade the US and impose Islam upon us, THEIR version of Islam. There are many many different kinds of Islam, I know.

I don't myself know why the US invaded Iraq. I wish that it would end as soon as possible. We also ought to leave Afghanistan, and I think leaving Bosnia, Kosovo and a few others places is also in order.

As President Washington said in his farewell address -

"Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it?

Gene

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by GeneW

"Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it?

Cultivating peace cannot be a valid excuse to go to war. War will always bring more war. Peace is never really attained, either. It is like a light at the end of a tunnel. Sometimes you see it, sometimes you don't. But destroying the train that ultimately gets you to the light is not exactly the best way to accomplish actually getting there. Am I making any sense here?

I once read a quote that read: "Bombing for peace is like f*cking for virginity". I couldn't agree more.

Much , as always

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by tk-421

Cultivating peace cannot be a valid excuse to go to war. War will always bring more war. Peace is never really attained, either. It is like a light at the end of a tunnel. Sometimes you see it, sometimes you don't. But destroying the train that ultimately gets you to the light is not exactly the best way to accomplish actually getting there. Am I making any sense here?

I once read a quote that read: "Bombing for peace is like f*cking for virginity". I couldn't agree more.

Much , as always

I do not support the occupation of Iraq. I did not support the Iraq invasion in 2003. I did not support the Gulf War of 1991.

I supported a limited punitive expedition against Al Qaeda assets in Afghanistan for the 9/11 attacks. No invasion, no nation building and no other crap. Simply a gesture for a gesture - bombing several training centers and madrassas to rubble, messing with their finances and then moving on.

I did not support the bombings of Yugoslavia in 1999. I did not support ending "genocide" in Rwanda, Sudan, nor in Tibet.

The last operation that I did support, covert assistance to the Nicaraguan Resistance, I would not support today. We have no business interfering in the affairs of latin American people. We've meddled enough down there.

I cannot think of one operation that the US has done my life time that I'd support today.

I do support Ballistic Missile Defense since defense is a moral imperative of the state. I support the Reliable Replacement Warhead program (for a small number of units) and insist that we have some testing of this unit. For every RRW that the US makes we need to take several existing warheads out of the stockpile and convert them to reactor fuel. The idea of letting our stockpile degrade to uselessness is irresponsible and foolish.

I support a modest nuclear deterrent (both land based and sea borne) and a modest standing Army and Navy. Enough for defense not for nation building and other stupid exercises.

I think that the United States government needs to mind its own damn business and that the Wilsonian idea of "nation building" is foolishness. Woodrow Wilson couldn't do it right and neither can Bush, Obama or anyone else.

Gene