8 baby mom! WOW.

[PetersRedYaris]

But come on guys, she's going to support them all as a counselor...

But seriously, thousands of people all over the US have milked the system just like this for years, though maybe not to this extent. And now we have a president who's just going to poor more money into the very programs people like this are living off of. It seems odd to me that everyone is bitching about this almost immediatley after they elected a president who is the financial equivilent of a lottery jackpot for people just like Nadya Suleman. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too...

Perhaps this should be turned into a conservative bitching thread. All the Liberals got what they wanted, and this will always be part of it...

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

But come on guys, she's going to support them all as a counselor...

But seriously, thousands of people all over the US have milked the system just like this for years, though maybe not to this extent. And now we have a president who's just going to poor more money into the very programs people like this are living off of. It seems odd to me that everyone is bitching about this almost immediatley after they elected a president who is the financial equivilent of a lottery jackpot for people just like Nadya Suleman. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too...

Perhaps this should be turned into a conservative bitching thread. All the Liberals got what they wanted, and this will always be part of it...

OK, your scenario. She gets no aid from the government. Then what? 14 starving children on the streets of America, with a crazy mother. Great idea.

There are other ways to combat those who milk the system. She should be in jail for child endangerment. Those 14 children should be in a foster system that works... one without the overhead. Most of our government still runs on 70's-era paper trails. Regardless, you attack this with policy, not with a cold shoulder. You could apply that idea to most cases where the government provides aid to those who claim to need it.

The doctor should be prosecuted as well, if there is any precedent for it. I'm no law major.

And don't EVER forget, there ARE people that do NEED it. Cut disability from those with Autism? Not in my country.

[PetersRedYaris]

Not a cold shoulder, ever... But exactly when have government policies worked? If you think Nadya Suleman is crazy, think again. She's college educated and smart enough to live off loop holes in government aide. She just got in over her head and now she can't back out and admit what she was doing, so she has pieced together some crap story that's makes no sense because it isn't even true. The fact is, people who work the system like this shouldn't even exist. It's the result of the government which hasn't run smoothly or effectivley in terms of aide to low income families for decades. You actually think it can? Once again, think again...

And of course there are people who need it, there always will be.

In the mean time I'm going to think about quitting my job and applying for unemployment, I heard it's easy to get these days. Why work hard only to have my taxes pay for crap like this. Why not sit back, pay no taxes, and let you support me too.

[ka0sx]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

OK, your scenario. She gets no aid from the government. Then what? 14 starving children on the streets of America, with a crazy mother. Great idea.

There are other ways to combat those who milk the system. She should be in jail for child endangerment. Those 14 children should be in a foster system that works... one without the overhead. Most of our government still runs on 70's-era paper trails. Regardless, you attack this with policy, not with a cold shoulder. You could apply that idea to most cases where the government provides aid to those who claim to need it.

The doctor should be prosecuted as well, if there is any precedent for it. I'm no law major.

And don't EVER forget, there ARE people that do NEED it. Cut disability from those with Autism? Not in my country.

sorry to burst your bubble but those children should have never come to be, none of them. Miracle of modern fucking science, good to an extent but everyone finds a way to abuse something good. There is no reason for the doctor to be persecuted. He did as the law and Unfortunately that is the way the law is; He did as the patient requested, he gave the medical advice as to her safety, if she refuses the doctors can't force her to get an abortion.

I am also tired of the government rewarding ignorance and stupidity. Law after law to protect the everyday moron that puts his foot into a woodchipper to unjam that stuck stump. Forced preservation of the weak and those who don't want to work only perpetuates the stupidity and ignorance. government likes its population, stupid, ignorant, and quiet; Smart people talk back and argue with its government.

If you believe the sense of morals that society has beaten into you then believe them. I personally do not simply accept "morality" based on what some dickhead with a psych degree decides is right or wrong. I think on my own and come to my own conclusions.

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by ka0sx

sorry to burst your bubble but those children should have never come to be, none of them. Miracle of modern fucking science, good to an extent but everyone finds a way to abuse something good. There is no reason for the doctor to be persecuted. He did as the law and Unfortunately that is the way the law is; He did as the patient requested, he gave the medical advice as to her safety, if she refuses the doctors can't force her to get an abortion.

I am also tired of the government rewarding ignorance and stupidity. Law after law to protect the everyday moron that puts his foot into a woodchipper to unjam that stuck stump. Forced preservation of the weak and those who don't want to work only perpetuates the stupidity and ignorance. government likes its population, stupid, ignorant, and quiet; Smart people talk back and argue with its government.

If you believe the sense of morals that society has beaten into you then believe them. I personally do not simply accept "morality" based on what some dickhead with a psych degree decides is right or wrong. I think on my own and come to my own conclusions.

Whoa...slow down there Harvard. You're all over the place. Abortion, woodchippers, dickheads with psychology degrees - wtf are you talking about?

Anyways - yeah the woman is certifiable.

[ka0sx]

Originally Posted by Altitude

Whoa...slow down there Harvard. You're all over the place. Abortion, woodchippers, dickheads with psychology degrees - wtf are you talking about?

Anyways - yeah the woman is certifiable.

hmm wtf am i talking about? lets see 3 separate topics, separated by blank line in between each. hmm?