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Old 11-17-2009, 04:39 PM   #1
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It's a well-known fact that new-car dealerships hose people on services with fake "needs", to make up the lack of profits on new vehicles. That is, they add service-stuff that isn't required. That's how they make their money. I think this is why I initially stopped coming on YW, too many ignorant folks that get taken by the dealer, then come on here to vent, or comes on here venting about the dealer ripping people off. It's a blatantly obvious fraud, but dealerships need to survive somehow.


I also don't feel bad in the least bit for any sucker that gets taken by them, either. The very first thing you should do after buying a brand new car is to read the manual: All the service intervals and requirements are listed in there.

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Old 11-17-2009, 05:52 PM   #2
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It's a well-known fact that new-car dealerships hose people on services with fake "needs", to make up the lack of profits on new vehicles. That is, they add service-stuff that isn't required. That's how they make their money. I think this is why I initially stopped coming on YW, too many ignorant folks that get taken by the dealer, then come on here to vent, or comes on here venting about the dealer ripping people off. It's a blatantly obvious fraud, but dealerships need to survive somehow.


I also don't feel bad in the least bit for any sucker that gets taken by them, either. The very first thing you should do after buying a brand new car is to read the manual: All the service intervals and requirements are listed in there.

Sorry your YW experience hasn't been what you expected, but the OP couldn't care less about that.

You make a valid point, but it would be so much nicer if you could just say what you need to say without the negative tone, eh?

All questions are welcome. Not everybody is an expert at everything, and if people need help and want to ask the community, that's what forums are for! Be nice!
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:11 PM   #3
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Sorry your YW experience hasn't been what you expected, but the OP couldn't care less about that.

You make a valid point, but it would be so much nicer if you could just say what you need to say without the negative tone, eh?

All questions are welcome. Not everybody is an expert at everything, and if people need help and want to ask the community, that's what forums are for! Be nice!
I Agree a nice tone would be welcome, but come ON. I agree with FM69, Read the owners manual! Since when is any forum the be-all end all? I see more misinformation than good information. Cyber -age silliness. Idiocracy - It's here!
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:59 PM   #4
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I Agree a nice tone would be welcome, but come ON. I agree with FM69, Read the owners manual! Since when is any forum the be-all end all? I see more misinformation than good information. Cyber -age silliness. Idiocracy - It's here!
I hear ya.
Like I said, I don't disagree with the message, just the tone.

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Old 11-22-2009, 04:06 PM   #5
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I hear ya.
Like I said, I don't disagree with the message, just the tone.

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Old 11-22-2009, 07:56 AM   #6
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I Agree a nice tone would be welcome, but come ON. I agree with FM69, Read the owners manual! Since when is any forum the be-all end all? I see more misinformation than good information. Cyber -age silliness. Idiocracy - It's here!
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:38 AM   #7
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I think this is why I initially stopped coming on YW, too many ignorant folks that get taken by the dealer, then come on here to vent, or comes on here venting about the dealer ripping people off.
If you don't want to read about stuff like this you should not open threads titled "30,000 mile service, this should get you going".


Also it's not fraud, as long as they do what they claim they will. Also a lot of people do these things early anyway.
Nor is it just dealers: my brother had a quick-lube type place suggest that they change his diff fluid too (not a yaris) and that the manufacturer suggested such and such oil. His response was "the manufacturer also suggests not doing it for 40k more miles.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:57 PM   #8
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If you don't want to read about stuff like this you should not open threads titled "30,000 mile service, this should get you going".


Also it's not fraud, as long as they do what they claim they will.
Your definition of fraud is completely wrong!

Even if they do a service that they claim is required, if the service is not needed, THAT IS FRAUD!

Obviosly in order to get a customer to okay a service that is not required, lying is required, so therefore, it is in fact fraud.
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