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Old 04-03-2010, 06:35 PM   #1
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The cam kit is 750.00 exchange see attached,.
$750 including new cams? What about the exchange word? Does this price is only referred to work on cams only?

What have he sent you in attached?

What about the extreme rpm number question? Is there any proof of what he claims?

I'm sure he must understand we are in need of answers before commiting to buy
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:46 PM   #2
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1) $750 including new cams?
2) What about the exchange word?
3) Does this price is only referred to work on cams only?
4) What have he sent you in attached?
5) What about the extreme rpm number question?
6) Is there any proof of what he claims?
1) $750 plus shipping will get you a set of cams/springs for your car.

2) Exchange means you send him a set of factory cams to replace the ones he ground to make your new ones. You can either send him cams ahead of time, or wait for yours to come in, as long as you let him know ahead of time. Unsure of what the core charge on just cams is. It was $350 on the head/cams package.

3) $750 covers new cams, bearings and spring set.

4) The attached file was just the link for the head package that has already been posted in this thread, nothing new.

5) As far as the extreme RPM question, he can grind you a set of 1NZ cams that will turn 10,000 rpm.

6) As far as proof, we'll see what happens when the goods get here and I get the car dyno'd. You aren't gonna see a 30% gain on just a set of cams obviously. That gain is claimed on the whole head package, which includes custom cams, large bore ported TB and complete custom milled head.
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Old 04-03-2010, 07:49 PM   #3
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1) $750 plus shipping will get you a set of cams/springs for your car.

2) Exchange means you send him a set of factory cams to replace the ones he ground to make your new ones. You can either send him cams ahead of time, or wait for yours to come in, as long as you let him know ahead of time. Unsure of what the core charge on just cams is. It was $350 on the head/cams package.

3) $750 covers new cams, bearings and spring set.

5) As far as the extreme RPM question, he can grind you a set of 1NZ cams that will turn 10,000 rpm.

6) As far as proof, we'll see what happens when the goods get here and I get the car dyno'd. You aren't gonna see a 30% gain on just a set of cams obviously. That gain is claimed on the whole head package, which includes custom cams, large bore ported TB and complete custom milled head.

I don't wish to send him my cams, I wish that he use new cams and work on them and ship them to me. If bearings and spring set are stock I don't need them. So that will be $350 or $750? How much for shipping to Malta, Europe?

Are you sure is 10,000 rpm? Do you really think a 1NZFE can withstand and make power at 10K rpm?

I am looking forward for your car to be dyno'd !
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:41 AM   #4
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I don't wish to send him my cams, I wish that he use new cams and work on them and ship them to me. If bearings and spring set are stock I don't need them. So that will be $350 or $750? How much for shipping to Malta, Europe?

Are you sure is 10,000 rpm? Do you really think a 1NZFE can withstand and make power at 10K rpm?

I am looking forward for your car to be dyno'd !

I'm starting to think language is our barrier. If you don't want to send him your cams, then he will go to junkyard and get a set, but you have to pay core charge for that. Will message him and see what that fee amounts to. Bearings and springs are not the stock ones. Springs are heavier duty. I have no idea how much shipping is to malta, I'll ask. He frequently ships internationally though, as he mentioned he has already sent about 30 cam sets to Thailand and Malaysia. As far as the 10k, yes, it MIGHT withstand it, but not for long. It obviously wouldn't be reliable. If you want 10k consistent, he can build you a motor for that. His price is right around $3500.
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Old 04-04-2010, 06:25 AM   #5
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Bearings and springs are not the stock ones. Springs are heavier duty.... As far as the 10k, yes, it MIGHT withstand it, but not for long. It obviously wouldn't be reliable. If you want 10k consistent, he can build you a motor for that. His price is right around $3500.
Re: Springs, If he said they aren't stock so why on Gude Describtion say:

"7. Valve springs all Gude performance camshafts are designed to operate to extreme rpm on stock valve springs, we spent countless hours designing and developing profile which WILL NOT require a high pressure valve spring which can cause added friction and valve stem failure due to the high loading of stiffer springs vale stem failure will usually cause major engine damage.."

Re: 10Krpm ... I am thinking to build more my motor but I never thought of reving it near 10K neither
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:55 AM   #6
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Re: Springs, If he said they aren't stock so why on Gude Describtion say:

"7. Valve springs all Gude performance camshafts are designed to operate to extreme rpm on stock valve springs, we spent countless hours designing and developing profile which WILL NOT require a high pressure valve spring which can cause added friction and valve stem failure due to the high loading of stiffer springs vale stem failure will usually cause major engine damage.."

Re: 10Krpm ... I am thinking to build more my motor but I never thought of reving it near 10K neither
Re: Springs...it's a generic package description. Most of his applications he is able to make his cams work with stock springs. He said though that on the 1NZ, the reliability just wasn't there, so they have to be upgraded, but they come with the cam when you purchase it. I don't know what all the fuss is about, his price is right in line with the $700 you guys are talking about spending on those other cams in the performance forum. As of right now, I am planning on just throwing the whole package on there and dyno-ing...if the goods get here and it's relatively easy, I might pull cams out and put them in my factory head and dyno for you guys. Also depends on cost of dyno.

As far as your build, 10k is not unheard of. It's been a while but, if i remember right, the key is a short piston with a long rod/throw. I wouldn't try and boost a 10k motor though, that's more of a N/A endeavor.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:59 AM   #7
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I wouldn't try and boost a 10k motor though, that's more of a N/A endeavor.
a thing that has been crossing my mind so many times before..... any one ever made a high compression all motor 1nz?
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