It's just a phone ...

[tomato]

to get back to the phone, we have 3 or 4 at work, and they all have the problem, if you hold them tightly from the bottom. If you loosen the grip, the bars come back. I don't see it as a deal breaker, myself, because you can easily correct the problem by loosening the grip or putting a bumper around it. The deal breaker is the crappy network and paying through the nose to get half-ass signals isn't my idea of good service.

All these phones have problems, though. my EVO has light leakage and a little bit of "play" when you press on the screen (you wonder if dust is gonna get in there in the long run?) . the N1 had "touch" issues (you had to press buttons from the top half, the bottom half didn't register, which was annoying at times but not a big deal, and possibly antenna issues as well although I never noticed that myself but to be honest, didn't test thoroughly for that). The BB bold I loved so much also had signal issues as well, jumped from Edge to 3G erratically (which I initially blamed on poor signal but I understand RIM corrected the issue by releasing an update months later?).

Still, all these phones, including the iPhone4, are pretty impressive devices, the next best thing to having a computer in your pocket...

I think if the antenna issue on the iPhone 4 is so widespread, a good move for AAPL would be to give people a free bumper and send them on their way with a smile. The attitude that "hey you're holding it wrong" may not sit well with most people and makes AAPL come across as @ssholes.

[GeneralDon7]

Originally Posted by tomato

to get back to the phone, we have 3 or 4 at work, and they all have the problem, if you hold them tightly from the bottom. If you loosen the grip, the bars come back. I don't see it as a deal breaker, myself, because you can easily correct the problem by loosening the grip or putting a bumper around it. The deal breaker is the crappy network and paying through the nose to get half-ass signals isn't my idea of good service.

All these phones have problems, though. my EVO has light leakage and a little bit of "play" when you press on the screen (you wonder if dust is gonna get in there in the long run?) . the N1 had "touch" issues (you had to press buttons from the top half, the bottom half didn't register, which was annoying at times but not a big deal, and possibly antenna issues as well although I never noticed that myself but to be honest, didn't test thoroughly for that). The BB bold I loved so much also had signal issues as well, jumped from Edge to 3G erratically (which I initially blamed on poor signal but I understand RIM corrected the issue by releasing an update months later?).

Still, all these phones, including the iPhone4, are pretty impressive devices, the next best thing to having a computer in your pocket...

I think if the antenna issue on the iPhone 4 is so widespread, a good move for AAPL would be to give people a free bumper and send them on their way with a smile. The attitude that "hey you're holding it wrong" may not sit well with most people and makes AAPL come across as @ssholes.

Agreed every phone has there issues, my gf wants the iphone but doesnt want AT&Ts service or lack there of, though now she wants the Evo. I'm hoping Verizon has learned from at&T when the iphone comes to there network which is rumored soon. I have come across connection issues with our 25+ BB Curve 8350i on nextels network. We had to have an internal network installed to fix the issues. Did anyone see the video at Apples developer conference where Steve asked everyone to shut there wifi off cause he couldnt get it to connect and then he couldnt get it to work with at&t. I hope that the android iphone palm microsoft fued drives this industry to even further advancement and comes out with something even greater.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

At least people are finally willing to criticize Apple. I remember when...

So do I. I also remember the early days, when they were the underdog

Originally Posted by GeneralDon7

Agreed every phone has there issues, my gf wants the iphone but doesnt want AT&Ts service or lack there of, though now she wants the Evo. I'm hoping Verizon has learned from at&T when the iphone comes to there network which is rumored soon. I have come across connection issues with our 25+ BB Curve 8350i on nextels network. We had to have an internal network installed to fix the issues. Did anyone see the video at Apples developer conference where Steve asked everyone to shut there wifi off cause he couldnt get it to connect and then he couldnt get it to work with at&t. I hope that the android iphone palm microsoft fued drives this industry to even further advancement and comes out with something even greater.

Did he, really? How embarrassing for him. No, I didn't see that. Got a link to a Youtube clip maybe?

I remember when Windows crashed on Bill Gates's presentation, right in front of a room packed with journalists. One guy in the back said "Get a Mac!" That was on the news yeah, technology isn't perfect.

[GeneralDon7]

Originally Posted by tomato

So do I. I also remember the early days, when they were the underdog



Did he, really? How embarrassing for him. No, I didn't see that. Got a link to a Youtube clip maybe?

I remember when Windows crashed on Bill Gates's presentation, right in front of a room packed with journalists. One guy in the back said "Get a Mac!" That was on the news yeah, technology isn't perfect.

Heres the link, its pretty funny, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxZZauBN2pU

I agree every tech has its flaws, and I have seen the presentation you mentioned, especially when it comes to Microsoft showing off the voice recognition software in Windows. Though Apple makes it seem like there products are perfect due to marketing. Though they just released a statement saying the iphone 4 software that calculates the bars is off by 2 bars, and will require a software update.