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Old 07-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #11
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I don't believe the quality difference would have anything to do with Toyota's systems. They are world renowned and have been paid by other auto companies to teach them.

The problem is that different countries will have different components. You are not going to get the exact same components in a car made in france as a car made in the US or Japan. This has lead to issues in qualities in the past. Sometimes suppliers are the entire issue.
This ^^^^^. The logic tk-421 used in his last post made perfect sense, but I still felt something was missing because production END RESULT is still not interchangeable around the world. One of the questions I posed in post #62 (Are the materials different?) re why MRPJ might have had some of the experiences that he did, was a more generalized thought relating to the 'physicality' of the car and not any processes. My even more generalized prior thought was; What are the inputs into the overall equation? (there are only a few). I really (truly) wanted the best explanation as to why the location change might, based on current experiences from that area, lead to less owner satisfaction.

Billiam stated he didn't have answers to my questions in post #62 and just kept harping on the processes and his 'superior knowledge', yet wouldn't use this knowledge to illustrate why his beliefs are true. I think this was partially because his 'dander was up', so to speak. His 'dander was up' , IMHO, because he didn't like your (IMHO valid) critique of parts of the U.S. workforce. He described his own workplace and it is obvious that he and his co-workers pride themselves on a job well done. Given that (and that his superiors acknowledged and validated that pride), I don't understand why his 'dander would be up'.....If he is secure in the knowledge of his own pride and skill plus that of his co-workers and all of that is validated by management, why does he care what anyone else's view is of unrelated (to him) parts of the U.S. workforce?

I think your explanation in the post above makes the most sense. One might ask, why wouldn't the parts being purchased in Japan for use in plants in Japan then just be purchased in greater quantities and used around the world? I can think of two possibilities---1. Availability, and 2. Transportation Costs (and how the transportation costs might effect the overall production cost). In the U.S. (as was promoted to the general public nationwide during the financial crisis) auto makers share suppliers. If this practice is similar in another 'outside Japan' market, then Toyota would likely not be at a competitive disadvantage to other manufacturers re what was being produced within that market.
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