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05-18-2017, 05:53 AM | #1 |
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Swaybar for regular driving?
I can afford to get one of these know,but is it really worth it for me?
I know what a swaybar does and how the physical principals work. It will cost about $400.00 CAD and want to know if for a regular daily driver will I notice anything substantial. Thanks for any and all opinions feedback. Car is lowerd 1.5 BTW running 205/50/R16 ( Michelin PILOT SPORT A/S 3+) |
05-18-2017, 06:42 AM | #2 |
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Since the rear axle is solid beam, it is not really anti roll bar type sway bar like most are. So the results aren't going to be as dramatic or worth it like a typical sway bar.
IMO I think that money could be better spent on performance shocks/struts to match your springs. This greatly increased the handling on your car especially at high speeds. The sway bar is a good mod but for $400 and just regular non spirited daily driving you wont notice a big difference, just a bit more stability in the highway. If you drive hard and cornered hard during your drive then I'd say it's worth it
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05-18-2017, 06:53 AM | #3 |
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Sway bar is a must and first item you should invest in on these cars. It's a day and night difference going straight on the highway. No more floating. I paid mine $285.00 shipped in hand CDN.
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05-18-2017, 07:50 AM | #4 |
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Swaybar cost?
May I ask where ($285.00 shipped in hand CDN)and what brand bar...whiteline,TRD?
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05-18-2017, 08:11 AM | #5 | |
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Anti Sway bar Yaris Corolla Tercel McPherson strut
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So, Yaris has anti-sway at both ends. 91 fwd Corolla Wagon has no anti-sway, and softer spring rates. Works fine in all driving I've done. Just doesn't feel like a go-cart. Maybe better than Yaris on the high-crown gravel roads. (If anything I could see adding some light anti-sway at this Corolla's rear only for better peg-leg-differential traction.) Corolla got a version of this suspension after Tercel. (Stated reason was improved trunk space.) A circa 2005 one I saw had a visible solid bar inside a U-shaped channel for the cross beam. Tercel had just the U. I think rabbit had a T-section. Looks like yaris has a closed tube in a shape that is relatively soft in torsion? Last edited by dogsridewith; 05-18-2017 at 08:26 AM. |
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05-18-2017, 11:57 AM | #6 | |
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05-18-2017, 12:01 PM | #7 |
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To the OP, I think the TRD rear sway bar is a fantastic mod, really improves the handling in daily driving. Having said that however I only spent $180 US on mine. At $400 CAD I would be hesitant about the purchase. I would keep looking for a better price. Used ones show up here every now and then also.
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05-18-2017, 12:27 PM | #8 |
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It really sucks for us not having a Canadian supplier. Best I could find this morning was $146 USD new. Add in the $105 to $126 USD for shipping, plus exchange rate and yeah, we are north of $350 CDN to get a new one in our hands.
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Anti Swaybar Yaris Corolla Tercel rear suspension McPherson strut
I wrote "integral swaybar FUNCTION." Show any source calling this type of rear suspension not IRS. Or describing it as "solid beam."
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05-18-2017, 02:07 PM | #10 | |
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Making a statement for the second time of Yaris' having independent rear suspension would require a source on your part to support your claim as it goes against what an irs set up looks and functions like. Lets keep the thread on topic for the op, if you want to discuss your interpretation of the rear suspension then by all means do so, but on your own thread
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05-18-2017, 04:00 PM | #11 | |
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Toyota Yaris rear suspension
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This is not off-topic. It will be fine for OP to know more about his suspension as he modifies it...particularly that it already includes some roll control. (In a very crude search of the Yaris rear suspension, I'm finding the terms "torsion beam rear suspension," and "semi-independent rear suspension." The main thing is to understand how it works.) Last edited by dogsridewith; 05-18-2017 at 04:45 PM. |
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05-18-2017, 05:23 PM | #13 |
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yes, there is flex manufactured into the design so it doesn't ride hard like a traditional straight beam rear axle. Hence why the hubs are situation further back from the central cross the car beam, this allows said flex therefore allowances for each side to move slightly free of eachother.
As you stated, Toyotas own term for it is "torsion beam". Allowing some flex in a rear axle does not constitute it as an independant rear suspension design and calling it so confuses many such as the op who still is trying to better understand the suspension in his Yaris.
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05-19-2017, 06:58 AM | #15 |
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So, to answer your question. IMO, yes, its worth it. I noticed it in a few areas of daily driving. ON/off ramps, substantially less body roll. Switchbacks, like lane changes feel more stable. And cross winds on the highway do not push the car around as much as it used to.
Having lowering springs does take care of some body roll,so that part of it wouldnt be as pronounced. If you like to drive in a "spirited" fashion then you'd like it. If you drive more "grandma" like or normal run of the mill drivers,then it may not be a good investment. The swaybar is for people who like to push the car a little at times. |
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Yaris rear swaybar torsion beam
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For auto-crossing w/ pegleg differential, more rear swaybar would give more fwd traction. |
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05-19-2017, 08:16 PM | #17 | |
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I drove my 2015 manual SE around for almost a year as a daily driver without a rear-sway-bar, and immediately noticed the stability differences in situations like what you mention once the TRD Rear-Sway-Bar was installed. On a factory/stock-OEM suspension/spring type setup, it is the best bang-for-your buck mod that you can make to a Yaris IMO. Perhaps not so much once the car is lowered and suspension-tuned for aftermarket racing-style performance. |
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05-19-2017, 09:44 PM | #18 |
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