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HTM Yaris · 05-18-2007, 06:29 PM

Coilovers are all you will need . The Yaris LB comes with a front upper strut tower brace ,STOCK (sure its thin and ugly , but highly effective). Unless you get a warm fuzzy feeling by having a TRD rear sway , you won't need it either . Unless you are a porn star , stiffer isn't always better . As far a tires go get 205 with 16's or get 195 with 15's . you will be happy . Personally I use Michelin Pilot Exalto II 195/55/15 for street and rain duty . Hoosiers205/45/16 for dry conditions . I use the stock Goodyears for rain/snow/hunting season .

Check this out . This me with my Michelins with TRD/TEINS . Notice I am right on that guy . He wasn't lolligaggin' either . Also notice the 2 350 Z's waaaay in the background . The Z's and I started at the same time . This pic was taken about halfway through the course . All you need for the Yaris is as follows . 1. Coilovers 2. Good tires .3 Seat Time

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/Orde...122&po=1122&c=

Vanderkitten · 05-18-2007, 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=HTM Yaris;87374]. The Yaris LB comes with a front upper strut tower brace ,STOCK (sure its thin and ugly , but highly effective). [QUOTE]

Are you sure about that? I didn't see anything of the like when I installed my CAI today and pointed to the strut tower to the guys at Weapon R and said "Do you think you can get an upper strut tie bar in there?" and they looked and said "it's very tight, I don't know how you would be able to attach it?"

Let me know. The Tein project Yaris in Siphon does NOT run one.

ALSO: Be careful when MFG's claim their base coil-overs are ride height adjustable... because many are NOT! Many use PRE-LOAD as their means of adjusting ride height. So, the stiffer the spring, the lower the car... but this is RIDE HEIGHT as a FUNCTION of PRE-LOAD, not a TRUE ride height adjustment.

The MEGAN RACING coilovers are the only one's I've see besides the expensive TEINS that offer an independent ride height adjustment. So, just read throughly!

brickhardmeat · 05-18-2007, 07:02 PM

There aint no upper strut bar in mine, there is a front sway bar yes but there is no tower bar or rear sway on the car STOCK

There are some options for upper strut bars, Tanabe appears to be the most affordable, Cuso lower tie and the TRD Rear Sway appears to be all we have for now, Progress is coming along very slow

go to wesellcarparts.com

between them and bulletproofauotomotive you should be able to find everything you need suspension wise for this car, they are both vendors here

HTM Yaris · 05-18-2007, 07:07 PM

If you take off that plastic stuff (fresh air vent, windshield squirter) just under the front window , you will see the tower brace . If you look at the rear (closest to the firewall ) of the front strut tower , you will see it . Like I said , its thin and ugly , but works beautifully . Look at the 1 in Siphon mag and you will see it also . It DOESN'T connect to the top of the strut tower , but the top rear , near the firewall . It is a brace integrated into the body . NOT A BAR .

brickhardmeat · 05-18-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

If you take off that plastic stuff (fresh air vent, windshield squirter) just under the front window , you will see the tower brace . If you look at the rear (closest to the firewall ) of the front strut tower , you will see it . Like I said , its thin and ugly , but works beautifully . Look at the 1 in Siphon mag and you will see it also . It DOESN'T connect to the top of the strut tower , but the top rear , near the firewall . It is a brace integrated into the body . NOT A BAR .

ok, there very well may be some type of a brace there but I was thinking you meant strut tower bar which there isn't, I'm thinking that combined with the cuso lower tie would really make a difference up front and I have to have a sway bar in the rear

blkyaris-I'm thinking about going with those Teins let us know what you think about them once installed, I was sure I'd go with Megan but I am hearing great things about Tein

HTM Yaris · 05-18-2007, 07:25 PM

Teins are very hard to beat . I have used them on 7 different cars . I never had a problem . I'm just waiting for some SS , or Flex , or some RA's to come out . Something I can use the EDFC with . Like the car in Siphon mag ( BASTARD :) ) The reason I didn't get the Tein Basics were b/c you can't adjust the dampening or rebound . Don't get me wrong , the Basics will work good for street and light competition .

brickhardmeat · 05-18-2007, 07:28 PM

exactly what I will use them for, driving to and from work mostly, but I don't like just the 2. inch drop I have I'd like to be about 2.5 maybe 3 in the rear

I think the Megan will be pretty stiff but they have a nice looking finish and appear to be of very good quality, I'm kinda hangin' on for some Megan feedback from vanderkitten and colint

everyone with the teins sounds very pleased

hystria · 06-17-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

Coilovers are all you will need . The Yaris LB comes with a front upper strut tower brace ,STOCK (sure its thin and ugly , but highly effective). Unless you get a warm fuzzy feeling by having a TRD rear sway , you won't need it either . Unless you are a porn star , stiffer isn't always better . As far a tires go get 205 with 16's or get 195 with 15's . you will be happy . Personally I use Michelin Pilot Exalto II 195/55/15 for street and rain duty . Hoosiers205/45/16 for dry conditions . I use the stock Goodyears for rain/snow/hunting season .

Check this out . This me with my Michelins with TRD/TEINS . Notice I am right on that guy . He wasn't lolligaggin' either . Also notice the 2 350 Z's waaaay in the background . The Z's and I started at the same time . This pic was taken about halfway through the course . All you need for the Yaris is as follows . 1. Coilovers 2. Good tires .3 Seat Time

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/Orde...122&po=1122&c=

100% agree. Stock suspension is the cheapest part on this car - especially the shocks: very bouncy on bad roads, getting very stiff on cold weather.

no need to change the front sway bar, as the car gets lowered, the stock bar bends more thus being more stiffer - this significantly improves the handling.

churp · 06-17-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hystria

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no need to change the front sway bar, as the car gets lowered, the stock bar bends more thus being more stiffer - this significantly improves the handling.

How does a sway bar get stiffer??????? (not that stiffer is needed) only way is larger diameter, or change the distance/length between attachment points....research.

Black Yaris · 06-17-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by churp

How does a sway bar get stiffer???????

a picture tells a 1000 words

Vanderkitten · 06-17-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by churp

How does a sway bar get stiffer??????? (not that stiffer is needed) only way is larger diameter, or change the distance/length between attachment points....research.

Or, technically, the material will also make a big difference. Think of mild steel vs. 4130 cromoly in the same diameter. Also shape (box v. oval v. round for example).

Because there is no ltd. slip, and not much power, more sway would only increase the likeliness of the inside wheel lifting under hard cornering...

I can tell you the coil-overs made such an improvement, it might be all you'll ever need. Also, the rear end is huge for a car this size, it looks pretty damn beefy.

Check out the TEIN project car, it has some interesting mods to it.

05-18-2007, 06:43 PM	#2
Vanderkitten Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: May 2007 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 243	[QUOTE=HTM Yaris;87374]. The Yaris LB comes with a front upper strut tower brace ,STOCK (sure its thin and ugly , but highly effective). [QUOTE] Are you sure about that? I didn't see anything of the like when I installed my CAI today and pointed to the strut tower to the guys at Weapon R and said "Do you think you can get an upper strut tie bar in there?" and they looked and said "it's very tight, I don't know how you would be able to attach it?" Let me know. The Tein project Yaris in Siphon does NOT run one. ALSO: Be careful when MFG's claim their base coil-overs are ride height adjustable... because many are NOT! Many use PRE-LOAD as their means of adjusting ride height. So, the stiffer the spring, the lower the car... but this is RIDE HEIGHT as a FUNCTION of PRE-LOAD, not a TRUE ride height adjustment. The MEGAN RACING coilovers are the only one's I've see besides the expensive TEINS that offer an independent ride height adjustment. So, just read throughly! __________________ Dave V- Creator-Vanderkitten- Clothing for Women Who Kick Ass! Many thanks to our sponsors: Weapon-R http://weapon-r.com Megan Racing http://www.meganracing.com Les Schwab Tires http://www.lesschwab.com 317 graphics http://www.317graphics.com

05-18-2007, 07:02 PM	#3
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	There aint no upper strut bar in mine, there is a front sway bar yes but there is no tower bar or rear sway on the car STOCK There are some options for upper strut bars, Tanabe appears to be the most affordable, Cuso lower tie and the TRD Rear Sway appears to be all we have for now, Progress is coming along very slow go to wesellcarparts.com between them and bulletproofauotomotive you should be able to find everything you need suspension wise for this car, they are both vendors here __________________ SPONSORED BY

05-18-2007, 07:28 PM	#7
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	exactly what I will use them for, driving to and from work mostly, but I don't like just the 2. inch drop I have I'd like to be about 2.5 maybe 3 in the rear I think the Megan will be pretty stiff but they have a nice looking finish and appear to be of very good quality, I'm kinda hangin' on for some Megan feedback from vanderkitten and colint everyone with the teins sounds very pleased __________________ SPONSORED BY

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05-18-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Coilovers are all you will need . The Yaris LB comes with a front upper strut tower brace ,STOCK (sure its thin and ugly , but highly effective). Unless you get a warm fuzzy feeling by having a TRD rear sway , you won't need it either . Unless you are a porn star , stiffer isn't always better . As far a tires go get 205 with 16's or get 195 with 15's . you will be happy . Personally I use Michelin Pilot Exalto II 195/55/15 for street and rain duty . Hoosiers205/45/16 for dry conditions . I use the stock Goodyears for rain/snow/hunting season . Check this out . This me with my Michelins with TRD/TEINS . Notice I am right on that guy . He wasn't lolligaggin' either . Also notice the 2 350 Z's waaaay in the background . The Z's and I started at the same time . This pic was taken about halfway through the course . All you need for the Yaris is as follows . 1. Coilovers 2. Good tires .3 Seat Time http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/Orde...122&po=1122&c=

05-18-2007, 07:07 PM	#4
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	If you take off that plastic stuff (fresh air vent, windshield squirter) just under the front window , you will see the tower brace . If you look at the rear (closest to the firewall ) of the front strut tower , you will see it . Like I said , its thin and ugly , but works beautifully . Look at the 1 in Siphon mag and you will see it also . It DOESN'T connect to the top of the strut tower , but the top rear , near the firewall . It is a brace integrated into the body . NOT A BAR .

05-18-2007, 07:25 PM	#6
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Teins are very hard to beat . I have used them on 7 different cars . I never had a problem . I'm just waiting for some SS , or Flex , or some RA's to come out . Something I can use the EDFC with . Like the car in Siphon mag ( BASTARD :) ) The reason I didn't get the Tein Basics were b/c you can't adjust the dampening or rebound . Don't get me wrong , the Basics will work good for street and light competition .