Why won't Toyota USA give us the TS?

[eTiMaGo]

Originally Posted by 1NZYaris1

American's can't handle the power, sorry couldn't resist the cheap shot

now wait for a big ol' V8 muscle car owner to flame you

[detroiter]

Which muscle car owner? The one with a 5.0 litre engine that only makes 300 hp? :D

[puetato89]

Originally Posted by detroiter

Which muscle car owner? The one with a 5.0 litre engine that only makes 300 hp? :D

Lmao..... good one

[ItalianYaris]

Sad really, in the US they have 5.0 liters V8's rating at 300HP while here in EU we have 1.0 liters 3cyl that have 100 HP. So if we do the simple math, If we did a V8 5.0 L we would get somewhere in the what? 600HP? hmmmm. You guys in the US really need some models like the Focus RS, and the Type R's, etc., to show you what muscle and technology really is!!!!!!!

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

Sad really, in the US they have 5.0 liters V8's rating at 300HP while here in EU we have 1.0 liters 3cyl that have 100 HP. So if we do the simple math, If we did a V8 5.0 L we would get somewhere in the what? 600HP? hmmmm. You guys in the US really need some models like the Focus RS, and the Type R's, etc., to show you what muscle and technology really is!!!!!!!

The 4.6 Mustang, not 5.0, is rated at 300hp and 315hp
Their 5.4 is rated at 500hp, and around 600hp
Not counting special build Mustangs that can be bought right off the Ford showroom floor...(Saleen 4.6, 550hp - Roush 4.6, 510hp - Steeda 5.0, 650hp)

ZR1, 6.2, 638hp, 0-60mph 3.4 seconds
CTS-V, 6.2, 556hp, 0-60mph 3.9 seconds

...or a working man's car like my old '05 GTO, when stock, 6.0, 400hp, 0-60 4.7 seconds

[ItalianYaris]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

The 4.6 Mustang, not 5.0, is rated at 300hp and 315hp
Their 5.4 is rated at 500hp, and around 600hp
Not counting special build Mustangs that can be bought right off the Ford showroom floor...(Saleen 4.6, 550hp - Roush 4.6, 510hp - Steeda 5.0, 650hp)

ZR1, 6.2, 638hp, 0-60mph 3.4 seconds
CTS-V, 6.2, 556hp, 0-60mph 3.9 seconds

...or a working man's car like my old '05 GTO, when stock, 6.0, 400hp, 0-60 4.7 seconds

Yes, I agree! But still, you talk about a 4.6 liter V8 being amazing and rated at 300HP, when a STI UK edition hits over 315 HP being a 2.0 liter 4 cyl. and not to mention the price. I dont argue that the US has amazing cars, i mean, the new camaro, just stunning! but before a ZR1, I would go for a porsche, and before a CTS-V, I would go for an M3 or an M5. My father had the pleasure of owning a Zr1, it lasted 2 weeks before one of the cyl. decided to break thru the bonnet, apparently a manufacturing fault, or so chevy said. So yeah. that was the end of that.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

Yes, I agree! But still, you talk about a 4.6 liter V8 being amazing and rated at 300HP, when a STI UK edition hits over 315 HP being a 2.0 liter 4 cyl. and not to mention the price. I dont argue that the US has amazing cars, i mean, the new camaro, just stunning! but before a ZR1, I would go for a porsche, and before a CTS-V, I would go for an M3 or an M5. My father had the pleasure of owning a Zr1, it lasted 2 weeks before one of the cyl. decided to break thru the bonnet, apparently a manufacturing fault, or so chevy said. So yeah. that was the end of that.

The STI couldn't do it without forced induction, that's why the stock 4.6 Mustang makes 300hp and 315hp, but the forced induction 4.6s that I mentioned make 510hp and 550hp. And over here the STI is about 10 grand more than a Mustang GT. Funny that you mentioned the M5...it did really good in last weeks Motorweek's CTS-V vs the M5...close, but CTS-V beat the M5 in the quarter mile, lap times...almost every test that was done, even at the gas pump. They even mentioned that the CTS-V could be bought, with enough money left over to pick up a new Series 1 BMW, for the price of the M5.

[ChinoCharles]

Simple answer: because on paper bringing the TS here makes no business sense.

[puetato89]

+1 very true but bs....

[TOUGEghost]

Everyone here would bitch and moan about a few thousand dollars added to the price of the car.

[Tamago]

lol as stated already, the TS is already here, in rhinoceros form.. (the xD)

and it's better equipped "standard" than any yaris

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

Originally Posted by Tamago

lol as stated already, the TS is already here, in rhinoceros form.. (the xD)

and it's better equipped "standard" than any yaris

standard meaning you'll pay 16K for it......

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by BLAZINBLUEVITZ

standard meaning you'll pay 16K for it......

and worth every penny.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

Originally Posted by Tamago

and worth every penny.

it should be if you spend almost 20grand on a SCION......

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by BLAZINBLUEVITZ

it should be if you spend almost 20grand on a SCION......

how does 16K = almost 20 thousand dollars?

that means a 14K yaris = almost 20 thousand dollars as well..

and furthermore, it's just a badge. but you're smart enough to know that...










or are you?

[Tamago]

a yaris comparable to the xD, let's see..........

liftback 5 door S
msrp 15,125
epa 29/36

scion xD
msrp 15,450
epa 26/32
both automatics


and guess which one will be marked up by the dealer because it "saves on gas" ?

and for that extra couple hundred dollars, you get a much nicer interior, better seats, more power, a better stereo, more room.

[ItalianYaris]

Originally Posted by Tamago

a yaris comparable to the xD, let's see..........

liftback 5 door S
msrp 15,125
epa 29/36

scion xD
msrp 15,450
epa 26/32
both automatics


and guess which one will be marked up by the dealer because it "saves on gas" ?

and for that extra couple hundred dollars, you get a much nicer interior, better seats, more power, a better stereo, more room.

so yeah, not to sound like an ass or anything. I know is only a game of badges, but seriously! Do you actually believe that this thing:



Is better looking than this?



Boy, that is the real reason why the US is not getting cars like the TS and the Type R, etc.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

so yeah, not to sound like an ass or anything. I know is only a game of badges, but seriously! Do you actually believe that this thing:



Is better looking than this?



Boy, that is the real reason why the US is not getting cars like the TS and the Type R, etc.

this will be my final post on yarisworld.

i love that you're comparing a bone stock xD to a modified yaris. very clever.

i can do the same!



vs



beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. the yaris looks cheap and out dated.