Well I guess I have to move now...again!

[TLyttle]

Good grief, I sure am glad I live here!!! I had a biker move in next door, and I made it clear that he simply was not welcome. I spoke to the cops about his presence and activities, and kept track. Eventually he moved out, and now I have a nice lady living there who runs a small plant nursery; much better.

We have tough gun laws, an education system that does NOT glorify violence, and a police force who pays attention to everything. We have just as many criminals, but they know better than to follow their pursuits. We have more freedom as individuals than most Americans, but we develop our neighbourly attitudes without the Almighty Gun. I've spent enough time in the US to know how lucky I am to live where I do!

[yarisitis]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

Good grief, I sure am glad I live here!!! I had a biker move in next door, and I made it clear that he simply was not welcome. I spoke to the cops about his presence and activities, and kept track. Eventually he moved out, and now I have a nice lady living there who runs a small plant nursery; much better.

Is there more to this?

Or was it simply the fact that he rode a motorcycle and all motorcyclists must be bad people who will kill you?

[tomato]

^ is there room for one more?

[TLyttle]

No, that is a poorly-thought-out conclusion, sir, and I resent its shallowness. I guess I should have called him a hard-core Hells Angel biker, dealing drugs out of his house, is that clearer? Large yard lights, 4am "visitors" (customers), vans unloading various "freight", really knocks down the neighbourhood. My neighbourhood.

My point is that we have a police system that doesn't allow "people who will kill you" any kind of latitude that will lead to that behaviour. We are also taught early on that such behaviour is unacceptable in our society. I guess you see that as an infringement on one's freedoms, eh?

[yarisitis]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

No, that is a poorly-thought-out conclusion, sir, and I resent its shallowness. I guess I should have called him a hard-core Hells Angel biker, dealing drugs out of his house, is that clearer? Large yard lights, 4am "visitors" (customers), vans unloading various "freight", really knocks down the neighbourhood. My neighbourhood.

My point is that we have a police system that doesn't allow "people who will kill you" any kind of latitude that will lead to that behaviour. We are also taught early on that such behaviour is unacceptable in our society. I guess you see that as an infringement on one's freedoms, eh?

That's all you had to say.

What came off as poorly thought out and shallow was your original post as it made you look like someone who stereotypically writes someone off simply for what they drive, but I guess that wasn't the case.

It's good to elaborate.

[tomato]

^ you had to say "eh?"

Just kidding

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by tomato

^ you had to say "eh?"

Just kidding

What's all this aboot?

[TLyttle]

Hawww! Just because we pronounce "about" with an O instead of an A... ;-)


Oh, and I forgot to mention that that the "biker" is back in jail, where he belongs...

[TLyttle]

Okay, Teacher, I'll be sure to respond in full next time

As far as bikers are concerned, I DO object to the Hells Angel bullies, very much so. At the same time, I also object to those who flaunt the law by driving loud bikes, claiming that "Loud pipes save lives". Lights save lives, not loud pipes, and they know that. They just think it is really cool to stop all conversation when they drive by, better if the go by in herds (bovine reference intended) and stop all talking for a few minutes is better yet. Pure, unmitigated arrogance. If one drove a car that is as noisy as those bikes, one would get a ticket right away, but not bikes. Clear?

[Greenthunder]

Some of those loud pipe arguments are legitimate because sometimes a biker will be passing in my blind spot and I can hear their bike so I can judge where they are at so that I know they are pasing me and not chilling in my blind spot. I always keep an eye out for bikes on the road because they get little respect from other drivers

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by Greenthunder

Some of those loud pipe arguments are legitimate because sometimes a biker will be passing in my blind spot and I can hear their bike so I can judge where they are at so that I know they are pasing me and not chilling in my blind spot. I always keep an eye out for bikes on the road because they get little respect from other drivers

That biker would need to take classes and learn not ride in blind spots. That's asking to get killed. I used to ride, but it was an unobnoxious bike and it was for commute purposes (and a little fun).

(NSFW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_3Rl-MGcJY

[JBougie]

Well.

Not only do I now believe even more that we should cut Cali off the rest of the country and let it float into the ocean (with all the good people moved, and the bad ones left to float away) .... but I don't think I'll ever visit there. Ever.

I really wanted to go there someday too :/

[cali yaris]

Okay, Teacher, I'll be sure to respond in full next time

Good of you to admit you got schooled.

[cali yaris]

but I don't think I'll ever visit there. Ever.

Too bad; you'll miss a lot of amazing, positive experiences.

[tomato]

+1 I wouldn't let our stories scare you away. I have been living in California for a very long time and there is a lot more to it than random acts of violence and petty theft. Just stay away from the bad areas :)