In 13K miles I have killed the engine at least 100 times . . . - Toyota Yaris Forums

woof · 06-19-2007, 10:30 PM

And ground coffee at least 200 times! The Yaris clutch has to be the worst design in the world! I've driven nothing but clutches all my life and this one drives me nutz.

It's like it has a floating engagement point. It grabs with little to no pedal feel and it seems to be a moving target.

I've read complaints such as this here . . . has anybody gotten any resolution for this irritation?

Ok, ok, I haven't laid this on the dealer yet but I want you guys opinions.
Thanks.

Dem Bonez · 06-19-2007, 10:35 PM

I've been driving a stick for years and have killed mine twice in the 24 hours I've owned it. There isn't much play in the clutch and far a distance is concerned, so if your to high off the floor or move your feet around, you've killed it. Thankfully I havn't ground any gears yet, but it only has 40ish miles on it so I'm not shifting hard yet until the engine is broken in alittle more.

Motorhead6T5 · 06-19-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by woof

And ground coffee at least 200 times! The Yaris clutch has to be the worst design in the world! I've driven nothing but clutches all my life and this one drives me nutz.

It's like it has a floating engagement point. It grabs with little to no pedal feel and it seems to be a moving target.

I've read complaints such as this here . . . has anybody gotten any resolution for this irritation?

Ok, ok, I haven't laid this on the dealer yet but I want you guys opinions.
Thanks.

I'm used to driving v8's and bigger turbo'd 4cyl(more torque) so it took a little getting used to. I just revit a bit more from a stop. At 600 miles I think I got it down,just gotta get use to it.

woof · 06-19-2007, 10:41 PM

Well, Bonez, you have to remember to hit the floor with the pedal and apparently I forget that too much. But, you shouldn't have to do that in the first place.

Being a former xB guy I can say the Yaris' shift linkage is pure precision and butter in comparison but I never had the clutch problem with the xB.

Sadly, my xB was screwed together better than my Yaris. You would think at this price point they would be equal?

BailOut · 06-19-2007, 10:44 PM

I've only killed mine 3 times, always on steep hill starts, and each time had much more to do with the throttle lag than the clutch.

Doc Zaius · 06-20-2007, 12:43 AM

In the first week I owned it, I stalled her at least once a drive. Weird weird clutch. But within a month I was fine.

Perhaps there's something wrong?

*kimona* · 06-20-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by woof

And ground coffee at least 200 times! The Yaris clutch has to be the worst design in the world! I've driven nothing but clutches all my life and this one drives me nutz.

It's like it has a floating engagement point. It grabs with little to no pedal feel and it seems to be a moving target.

I've read complaints such as this here . . . has anybody gotten any resolution for this irritation?

Ok, ok, I haven't laid this on the dealer yet but I want you guys opinions.
Thanks.

My resolution was to buy the automatic after test-driving the stick.

My first small car automatic, and I couldn't be happier.

clayky · 06-20-2007, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Zaius

In the first week I owned it, I stalled her at least once a drive. Weird weird clutch. But within a month I was fine.

Perhaps there's something wrong?

I don't think it's so much the clutch as it is the throttle delay. But I'm with you guys, been driving a stick all my life and this is the finickiest so far.

Black Yaris · 06-20-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by clayky

I don't think it's so much the clutch as it is the throttle delay. But I'm with you guys, been driving a stick all my life and this is the finickiest so far.

DING DING DING I think we have a winner..... well I think it is a combo of both, 1 the friction pont is an inch off the floor and 2 the slight lag in acceleration because of the throttle by wire.... over time you become acustome to it

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-20-2007, 01:46 AM

i've only stalled about 3 times for as long as i've owned my Yaris. i think the clutch is actually good for a cheap car.

fu_im_from_texas · 06-20-2007, 02:09 AM

i think its caused by a lack of hp and tq at rpms less than 2k ... ive gotten used to it, but only after 100+ stalls

Kioshi · 06-20-2007, 02:52 AM

I've killed the engine 50 times, at least to my counting. Funny part i killed it parking in my garage because of the small incline and I usually dont like to drive straight in damaging the shocks w/ the impact of the incline.

There is delay....i guess thats why people tailgate me for like the 1st and 2nd gear, but after that I've pretty much out-ran them in their Escalades.

But i agree, you have to give this car throttle first then ease off the clutch, not both at the same time. And uphills, make sure to rev it more but not enough to peel out like I had 7 times.

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-20-2007, 03:31 AM

you can always use the handbrake method on those hills. heh. still perfecting that for me (i'm not used to it).

Kioshi · 06-20-2007, 03:42 AM

Yea its hard..I've stalled couple times using the handbrake because I felt the car moving but didnt give enough gas~

Speedz · 06-20-2007, 04:03 AM

lol

I stall again it just yesterday after 25k kms already... really a pain in your wallet to rev it when you almost have to cut ur flesh to pay for petrol... lol

Kaotic Lazagna · 06-20-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kioshi

Yea its hard..I've stalled couple times using the handbrake because I felt the car moving but didnt give enough gas~

heh, luckily for me, i don't go to places that have steep hills.

i just noticed that you're in fremont. do you live near the Numie (sp?) factory?

grampi · 06-20-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by woof

Sadly, my xB was screwed together better than my Yaris. You would think at this price point they would be equal?

That's your opinion. As far as passing that off as fact, I'm not buying it.

my little snow ball · 06-20-2007, 10:01 AM

i test drove the yaris rs and i stalled it three times and i have driven stick all my life but the same with the matrix i stalled it too i think its the clutchs in the cars

06-19-2007, 10:30 PM	#1
woof Drives: Yaris 3dr Hatch/Black Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 114	In 13K miles I have killed the engine at least 100 times . . . And ground coffee at least 200 times! The Yaris clutch has to be the worst design in the world! I've driven nothing but clutches all my life and this one drives me nutz. It's like it has a floating engagement point. It grabs with little to no pedal feel and it seems to be a moving target. I've read complaints such as this here . . . has anybody gotten any resolution for this irritation? Ok, ok, I haven't laid this on the dealer yet but I want you guys opinions. Thanks.

06-19-2007, 10:44 PM	#5
BailOut Steals terrorist's lunch View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada, USA Posts: 1,299	I've only killed mine 3 times, always on steep hill starts, and each time had much more to do with the throttle lag than the clutch. __________________ - Brian Share the Road I often carry 2 carpool passengers and mountain bikes or snowboards/skis over a 4,500 foot elevation difference. Click the graphic above to see my detailed mileage logs.

06-20-2007, 12:43 AM	#6
Doc Zaius Lurker supreme! View User's Garage Drives: old and boosted! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 792	In the first week I owned it, I stalled her at least once a drive. Weird weird clutch. But within a month I was fine. Perhaps there's something wrong? __________________ 2006 Red Blitzed RS 5-door

06-19-2007, 10:35 PM	#2
Dem Bonez Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 8	I've been driving a stick for years and have killed mine twice in the 24 hours I've owned it. There isn't much play in the clutch and far a distance is concerned, so if your to high off the floor or move your feet around, you've killed it. Thankfully I havn't ground any gears yet, but it only has 40ish miles on it so I'm not shifting hard yet until the engine is broken in alittle more.

06-19-2007, 10:41 PM	#4
woof Drives: Yaris 3dr Hatch/Black Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 114	Well, Bonez, you have to remember to hit the floor with the pedal and apparently I forget that too much. But, you shouldn't have to do that in the first place. Being a former xB guy I can say the Yaris' shift linkage is pure precision and butter in comparison but I never had the clutch problem with the xB. Sadly, my xB was screwed together better than my Yaris. You would think at this price point they would be equal?

06-20-2007, 01:46 AM	#10
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	i've only stalled about 3 times for as long as i've owned my Yaris. i think the clutch is actually good for a cheap car.

06-20-2007, 02:09 AM	#11
fu_im_from_texas Drives: Liftback Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 137	i think its caused by a lack of hp and tq at rpms less than 2k ... ive gotten used to it, but only after 100+ stalls

06-20-2007, 02:52 AM	#12
Kioshi Heart Up! Vitz Drives: トヨタ Vitz Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 2,582	I've killed the engine 50 times, at least to my counting. Funny part i killed it parking in my garage because of the small incline and I usually dont like to drive straight in damaging the shocks w/ the impact of the incline. There is delay....i guess thats why people tailgate me for like the 1st and 2nd gear, but after that I've pretty much out-ran them in their Escalades. But i agree, you have to give this car throttle first then ease off the clutch, not both at the same time. And uphills, make sure to rev it more but not enough to peel out like I had 7 times.

06-20-2007, 03:31 AM	#13
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	you can always use the handbrake method on those hills. heh. still perfecting that for me (i'm not used to it).

06-20-2007, 03:42 AM	#14
Kioshi Heart Up! Vitz Drives: トヨタ Vitz Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 2,582	Yea its hard..I've stalled couple times using the handbrake because I felt the car moving but didnt give enough gas~

06-20-2007, 04:03 AM	#15
Speedz Will work for Yaris... Drives: Yaris Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 191	lol I stall again it just yesterday after 25k kms already... really a pain in your wallet to rev it when you almost have to cut ur flesh to pay for petrol... lol

06-20-2007, 10:01 AM	#18
my little snow ball Drives: white yaris hatch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: stratford Posts: 23	i test drove the yaris rs and i stalled it three times and i have driven stick all my life but the same with the matrix i stalled it too i think its the clutchs in the cars