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sdmf · 07-19-2007, 09:01 AM

um well i was in the heat of the moment and i picked up a ppi 3000w amp, 1000w rms, is that too much for the hatchback to take? its going to power up 2 12" mb quart rwe 304 subs, 500w rms 1000w max. please let me know if it better to sell than to keep. wouldnt want to buy a new window set for the rear.

07typeS · 07-19-2007, 12:58 PM

lol I dont think you would bust the windows out, but your definately going to have a crapload of bass....

ive seen a couple videos on here from a member that got banned i think of multiple setups, and if he didnt blow the windows with the amount of bass he was bustin out, I dont think you will....excellent choice on the ppi amp though.......

sdmf · 07-19-2007, 05:18 PM

i have heard his setup, i met him one time, he had 2 10" alpine type x subs driven by a kicker amp, i dont really know how much power he had, but yea i thought my ear drums were going to burst.

brickhardmeat · 07-19-2007, 05:22 PM

You'll get your eyes shaking for sure.

jdium · 07-19-2007, 05:52 PM

You can't have too much bass

What do you have for the top end, can it keep up?

The problem I see is nobody knows what the alternator can handle...that amp probably draws more amps at full pump than your alternator puts out for the entire car...

sdmf · 07-19-2007, 06:43 PM

well i guess i will find out, so i think i will need a capacitor

mikeukrainetz · 07-19-2007, 07:16 PM

from what I found the alt is only about 60amp. Although I ran two 12's and air cond. and didnt have a problem.

bigsky2 · 07-19-2007, 09:29 PM

I can't pinpoint the source, but the alternator is apparently 80 amp.

It was mentioned on the forums before; whether it is substantiated is another story.

Even if you were to calculcate the amperage pull of an audio system, you have to consider that XX amps is only the peak amperage pull while the system is operating at its highest operating level.

E.g. Your audio components may be pulling 70 amps after you have factored in the wattage and such, but that number is not the constant amperage pull on the alternator. The constant pull will generally be lower than 70 amps as you won't be operating all components at 100% efficiency.

I haven't experienced any problems yet with my setup. I'm running 2 x 10" SW, 2 x 200 Mono, 1 x 840 4ch all without the need for a capacitor. Headlights and instrument lights do not dim during peak hits. It's probably not the most power hungry setup around, but I would say it's a typical setup for a car of this size.

Just turn the volume down every now and then :)

sdmf · 07-20-2007, 12:28 AM

basically, my setup wont ever be high volume, just for show it will

njyaris · 07-20-2007, 12:35 AM

i wouldnt worry about anything except someone stealing your gear .. sounds like your got the right gear for the job .. you def will bumping up and down your neiborhood .. wish i had it like that!

fnkngrv · 07-20-2007, 01:17 AM

Don't have a can of soda in your ride when it hits

I currently have one BTA10200 tube and I am looking to add another...I was a little concerned myself with Alternator or battery issues...but maybe I am just too cautious.

sdmf · 07-20-2007, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njyaris

i wouldnt worry about anything except someone stealing your gear .. sounds like your got the right gear for the job .. you def will bumping up and down your neiborhood .. wish i had it like that!

i wouldnt want to bump around the hood, only at shows, there are trucks galore around my neighborhood, they have better setups im sure and more space to do more than me.

reznunt · 07-20-2007, 03:30 AM

change to plexiglass and pour concrete in your doors!

jdium · 07-20-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmf

well i guess i will find out, so i think i will need a capacitor

see:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7225

caps are not a solution

And Mikekrainets, the AC has nothing to do with power draw, no impact on your alternator...

07-19-2007, 09:01 AM	#1
sdmf Down With the Sickness Drives: 2007 yaris liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 385	overkill? um well i was in the heat of the moment and i picked up a ppi 3000w amp, 1000w rms, is that too much for the hatchback to take? its going to power up 2 12" mb quart rwe 304 subs, 500w rms 1000w max. please let me know if it better to sell than to keep. wouldnt want to buy a new window set for the rear. __________________ Strength - Determination - Merciless - Forever

07-19-2007, 12:58 PM	#2
07typeS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 White Toyota Yaris Type S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 439	lol I dont think you would bust the windows out, but your definately going to have a crapload of bass.... ive seen a couple videos on here from a member that got banned i think of multiple setups, and if he didnt blow the windows with the amount of bass he was bustin out, I dont think you will....excellent choice on the ppi amp though....... __________________ TRD Springs w/ KYB Struts and Shocks, Custom CAI w/ K&N filter and pre filter wrap, Weapon R Header, Stock 15 inch alloys, Dezod Performance pads, Tanabe Front Strut Bar, 35% front door Tint and 20% Rear doors back Tint, De-Badged Ass, Custom painted flat black interior, Pioneer deh-p6700bt w/ IPOD hookup, Infinity components up front with custom mounted tweeter, Inifinity 6x9's out back, 1 12" kicker comp cvr........

07-19-2007, 05:18 PM	#3
sdmf Down With the Sickness Drives: 2007 yaris liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 385	i have heard his setup, i met him one time, he had 2 10" alpine type x subs driven by a kicker amp, i dont really know how much power he had, but yea i thought my ear drums were going to burst. __________________ Strength - Determination - Merciless - Forever

07-19-2007, 05:22 PM	#4
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07-19-2007, 05:52 PM	#5
jdium Mr Attitude Drives: Blazing Blue 5 Spd Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hillsboro Posts: 302	You can't have too much bass What do you have for the top end, can it keep up? The problem I see is nobody knows what the alternator can handle...that amp probably draws more amps at full pump than your alternator puts out for the entire car... __________________ It's scary to think that half the people surrounding you are below average...

07-19-2007, 06:43 PM	#6
sdmf Down With the Sickness Drives: 2007 yaris liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 385	well i guess i will find out, so i think i will need a capacitor __________________ Strength - Determination - Merciless - Forever

07-19-2007, 07:16 PM	#7
mikeukrainetz View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Toyota Yaris Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 564	from what I found the alt is only about 60amp. Although I ran two 12's and air cond. and didnt have a problem. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2336679

07-19-2007, 09:29 PM	#8
bigsky2 Cousin Vitz View User's Garage Drives: Yaris RS 5DR / Vitz RS wannabe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,082	I can't pinpoint the source, but the alternator is apparently 80 amp. It was mentioned on the forums before; whether it is substantiated is another story. Even if you were to calculcate the amperage pull of an audio system, you have to consider that XX amps is only the peak amperage pull while the system is operating at its highest operating level. E.g. Your audio components may be pulling 70 amps after you have factored in the wattage and such, but that number is not the constant amperage pull on the alternator. The constant pull will generally be lower than 70 amps as you won't be operating all components at 100% efficiency. I haven't experienced any problems yet with my setup. I'm running 2 x 10" SW, 2 x 200 Mono, 1 x 840 4ch all without the need for a capacitor. Headlights and instrument lights do not dim during peak hits. It's probably not the most power hungry setup around, but I would say it's a typical setup for a car of this size. Just turn the volume down every now and then :) __________________ 2007 Yaris RS Hatchback Black Sand Pearl 5DR MT DIY Speaker Spacer/Bracket Template for Yaris Hatchback http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1930

07-20-2007, 12:28 AM	#9
sdmf Down With the Sickness Drives: 2007 yaris liftback Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 385	basically, my setup wont ever be high volume, just for show it will __________________ Strength - Determination - Merciless - Forever

07-20-2007, 12:35 AM	#10
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07-20-2007, 01:17 AM	#11
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	Don't have a can of soda in your ride when it hits I currently have one BTA10200 tube and I am looking to add another...I was a little concerned myself with Alternator or battery issues...but maybe I am just too cautious. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

07-20-2007, 03:30 AM	#13
reznunt Hi! View User's Garage Drives: EF Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Socal Posts: 434	change to plexiglass and pour concrete in your doors!