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Old 10-20-2008, 07:32 PM   #1
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You are cold....!

But yeah, the front strut doesn't do much for the car.

It does look cool tough!

Don't ask me about the rear brace :)
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:25 PM   #2
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The bar is usless, and does not need to be retentioned.
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You are cold....!

But yeah, the front strut doesn't do much for the car.

It does look cool tough!
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Don't ask me about the rear brace :)
ALRIGHT, first of all they are right in one way. that TANABE bar is useless and there are much better out there(BEATRUSH). SECONDLY, i challenge ANYONE who thinks bars are a waste to get in my car and hold on or use yours and TRY TO KEEP UP......
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:22 PM   #3
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ALRIGHT, first of all they are right in one way. that TANABE bar is useless and there are much better out there(BEATRUSH). SECONDLY, i challenge ANYONE who thinks bars are a waste to get in my car and hold on or use yours and TRY TO KEEP UP......
A useless strutbar is a useless strutbar no matter what brand it is.

You are sponsord by a company who produces said useless bars makes you a biased sorce of information. The fact that you would say that a Beatrush is less useless than a Tanabe is rediculous, and proves my point.

Why is the strut bar useless? The front struts are mounted in RUBBER which flexes, and the strut towers themselves are part of the firewall, which is one of the strongest areas of the car.

Yes, there are a couple braces that will help handling... strut braces are not one of them, on this particular car. Some of the undercar bracing is actually usefull.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:56 AM   #4
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A useless strutbar is a useless strutbar no matter what brand it is.

You are sponsord by a company who produces said useless bars makes you a biased sorce of information. The fact that you would say that a Beatrush is less useless than a Tanabe is rediculous, and proves my point.

Why is the strut bar useless? The front struts are mounted in RUBBER which flexes, and the strut towers themselves are part of the firewall, which is one of the strongest areas of the car.

Yes, there are a couple braces that will help handling... strut braces are not one of them, on this particular car. Some of the undercar bracing is actually usefull.
take a side by side look at both bars and tell me there's no difference. as for total uselessness come on now. BEATRUSH makes C-ONE and BRAILLE and has been a staple in VITZ/yaris products for years now.....

you can talk about how is does nothing all you want, problem is there's no proof to your opinions........
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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take a side by side look at both bars and tell me there's no difference. as for total uselessness come on now. BEATRUSH makes C-ONE and BRAILLE and has been a staple in VITZ/yaris products for years now.....

you can talk about how is does nothing all you want, problem is there's no proof to your opinions........
I'm not saying they aren't all a bit different, I agree some bars would be better than others if they actually did something.

I'm saying none of the bars are really needed until you have the the front struts solidly mounted to the car. Your money is better spent on bracing the suspension arms and subframe under the car.

Also, you have no proof that they do work :P
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i see we can beat this all day long with no solid conclusion. im gonna say your 50% right so we can end this........
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:31 PM   #7
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i see we can beat this all day long with no solid conclusion. im gonna say your 50% right so we can end this........
Fair enough.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:32 PM   #8
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A useless strutbar is a useless strutbar no matter what brand it is.

You are sponsord by a company who produces said useless bars makes you a biased sorce of information. The fact that you would say that a Beatrush is less useless than a Tanabe is rediculous, and proves my point.

Why is the strut bar useless? The front struts are mounted in RUBBER which flexes, and the strut towers themselves are part of the firewall, which is one of the strongest areas of the car.

Yes, there are a couple braces that will help handling... strut braces are not one of them, on this particular car. Some of the undercar bracing is actually usefull.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:35 PM   #9
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^ Enjoy bracing something mounted in rubber
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:30 PM   #10
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and an arrogant answer is unimpressive no matter who it comes from you may even be right largeorangefont, but you say it in such a way that many people don't care...

but both of you, honestly--dude posted up his new mod, did not ask for opinions of its utility. since this is not the thread to battle out your strut bar opinions, why not start a new thread and have at it? we might all learn something
The bar looks cool, it just does not do anything. If Loren were here He would agree with me. I'm sorry if it came off as arrogant, but people can buy whatever they like for their cars, it does not bother me.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:55 PM   #11
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The bar looks cool, it just does not do anything. If Loren were here He would agree with me. I'm sorry if it came off as arrogant, but people can buy whatever they like for their cars, it does not bother me.
The front suspension on this car need mucho work - doesnt handle as good as a Yugo ( Fiat 126). Traditionally teh stut towers move around alot under heavy side loads - but the closer they are to the firewall the less they will move. You do have to increase the durometer rating on most of the bushings of this fat pig to get it to steer.
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Old 10-31-2008, 02:48 PM   #12
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The front suspension on this car need mucho work - doesnt handle as good as a Yugo ( Fiat 126). Traditionally teh stut towers move around alot under heavy side loads - but the closer they are to the firewall the less they will move. You do have to increase the durometer rating on most of the bushings of this fat pig to get it to steer.
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Get some R compounds, Delrin arm bushings, and solid upper strut mounts, then we can talk about strut tower bracing.
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Get some R compounds, Delrin arm bushings, and solid upper strut mounts, then we can talk about strut tower bracing.
Right on, Bro', on a stiif bush. Been racin and know it. But then you woulnt have all that underhood 'B-L-i_N-G!' to show off - You know, The Rice Wiggers underhood jew-lerY

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