How are you guys jacking up your Yaris?

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Same here. I rotated mine every 5000 miles and they were bald at 25,000. And I drive like a grandpa. Too bad the mileage warranty is void on our cars....

thats weird, I'm nearing 19k, and i've still got a decent amount of tread. What PSI's did you run, and what are your driving habbits? Mostly city? or Highway? if highway, how fast? 50pmh/60mph/70/ 80????


i drive 70% highway and 60-65 while on the highway. I try to reduce the amount of times i have to start & stop as much as possible... I figure stopping & starting is probably more wear on your tires as well as less mpg's when I fill up.

[b_hickman11]

90% highway, 70 mph, 32 psi on my 07. So far the ones on my 08 are wearing fine. Maybe they just had a bad crop in 07??

[b_hickman11]

Front tires turn....rear tires do not....this causes a different wear pattern on the front and rear tires. This is why you rotate, but I guess the multi-billion dollar tires companies dont know what they are talking about.....

[touroxin]

Well, I rotated my tires this weekend, back to front, jacking up one side of the car at a time. The difference in tread wear was obvious. I have 5,200 miles on the car.

I've always rotated the tires on my cars so they wear evenly. When the time comes for new tires I always buy four new tires and the process starts again.

For those keeping track, I am now 97% sure where the front jack point is located. Does anyone have a nice picture of it??

[IsLNdbOi]

Anyone use ramps instead of jacks?

[PaidTimeOff]

Originally Posted by IsLNdbOi

Anyone use ramps instead of jacks?

wouldn't the wheels then be sitting on the ramps instead of the floor? Or was this a joke and I just didn't catch the tone?

[IsLNdbOi]

Originally Posted by PaidTimeOff

wouldn't the wheels then be sitting on the ramps instead of the floor? Or was this a joke and I just didn't catch the tone?

I meant using ramps to work on stuff under the car.

[PaidTimeOff]

Originally Posted by IsLNdbOi

I meant using ramps to work on stuff under the car.

Haha ok, guess I got sidetracked on the whole rotating tires stuff.

I used ramps to install my exhaust on the car, but I couldn't use ramps to get under the front because my car's dropped and the ramps are just a bit too steep.

[b_hickman11]

I was just stating that he was following the tire manufactor's max rating of 44 psi and saying Toyota's recommendations where a joke. He also said that the tire manufactors rotation guidelines where a joke and that he followed Toyota's. So therefore he is follow the tire manufactors guidelines for one thing but following Toyota's for another.....

[Spades]

how do I jack up my yaris? I work at a auto repair shop...so...chassis lift on the toyota reccomended lift points....muahahahahah.

as far as tires...i wouldnt ever over inflate a cheap OEM equipment radial...thats just me though. I have worked at dealerships before and I have seen the results of over and under inflating said cheap tires. most tires wear evenly at 5-10 pounds under max pressure rating.

[RagnaCaT]

Originally Posted by Spades

how do I jack up my yaris? I work at a auto repair shop...so...chassis lift on the toyota reccomended lift points....muahahahahah.

as far as tires...i wouldnt ever over inflate a cheap OEM equipment radial...thats just me though. I have worked at dealerships before and I have seen the results of over and under inflating said cheap tires. most tires wear evenly at 5-10 pounds under max pressure rating.

Nice!

[voodoo22]

Could anyone take a picture of how they jack up the back end of the sedan? The picture and the manual isn't clear enough for me to figure out exactly where this point is.

[touroxin]

Yeah, boy that would be helpful!
Anyone who has a digital camera, a Yaris (HB or Sedan), and knowledge of the jack points... Please post a picture of said jack points so Voodoo22 and I can verify the jack points on our cars??
Thanks fellow Yaris owners!!!

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by touroxin

Yeah, boy that would be helpful!
Anyone who has a digital camera, a Yaris (HB or Sedan), and knowledge of the jack points... Please post a picture of said jack points so Voodoo22 and I can verify the jack points on our cars??
Thanks fellow Yaris owners!!!

I think we may have to start our own thread on this as it seems this thread seems to have been hijacked by tire rotators

[nemelek]

Originally Posted by touroxin

Yeah, boy that would be helpful!
Anyone who has a digital camera, a Yaris (HB or Sedan), and knowledge of the jack points... Please post a picture of said jack points so Voodoo22 and I can verify the jack points on our cars??
Thanks fellow Yaris owners!!!

The rear jack up point is 4 inches in front of the license plate. 1st picture using a 3 ton floor jack.

The side jack up points are between V notches close to the front and rear tires. 2nd and 3rd picture using the car jack. The cheapest car jack I have ever used.

The front jack up point is about 32 inches from the front bumper using a 2 ton floor jack. The 3 ton jack was hard to fit under the car. Remember to use parking brake when jacking up the front.

When I rotate tires I'll use the 2 & 3 ton jacks on one side of the car at a time. I don't think that I'll ever have the need to jack up the front or rear tires at the same time. These pictures are from a 2008 hatchback.

[ozmdd]

I can tell you two facts about tire rotation wear from personal experience and some engineering research:

FWD vehicles suffer significantly more wear to the front tires than the rear for three reasons: engine/tranny weight, steering wear, acceleration/braking wear (depends on the driver). Rotation will definitely aid in equalizing this wear between the 4 tires.

Modern steel belted radials shold only rotate in one direction, and do risk delamination/belt twisting when run on the opposite side of the vehicle, though the risk varies greatly depending on vehicle type, tire sidewall height and inflation pressure. Often the tire will not fail, but the lateral belts can become "curved" in the original rotation direction, and then resist flex in that direction when reversed. On larger tires (33" on my Jeep) this can result in a noticeable wave in the tread. Also, I have seen tires blow-out after being installed (used) without knowing the original rotation, although that could have been caused by a number of other factors too.

Bottom line: Rotate your tires regularly if you prefer to replace all 4 at once and want to get the maximum mileage from your tires. don't rotate at all if you don't mind replacing 2 at a time or don't care if 2 of your tires still have more tread left when you replace them.
NEVER cross-rotate modern radial tires, directional or not. :)

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by ozmdd

I can tell you two facts about tire rotation wear from personal experience and some engineering research:

FWD vehicles suffer significantly more wear to the front tires than the rear for three reasons: engine/tranny weight, steering wear, acceleration/braking wear (depends on the driver). Rotation will definitely aid in equalizing this wear between the 4 tires.

Modern steel belted radials shold only rotate in one direction, and do risk delamination/belt twisting when run on the opposite side of the vehicle, though the risk varies greatly depending on vehicle type, tire sidewall height and inflation pressure. Often the tire will not fail, but the lateral belts can become "curved" in the original rotation direction, and then resist flex in that direction when reversed. On larger tires (33" on my Jeep) this can result in a noticeable wave in the tread. Also, I have seen tires blow-out after being installed (used) without knowing the original rotation, although that could have been caused by a number of other factors too.

Bottom line: Rotate your tires regularly if you prefer to replace all 4 at once and want to get the maximum mileage from your tires. don't rotate at all if you don't mind replacing 2 at a time or don't care if 2 of your tires still have more tread left when you replace them.
NEVER cross-rotate modern radial tires, directional or not. :)

So it sounds like you are saying that tires have a mind of their own....or maybe even a computer chip that tells what side of the car it should be on??

[touroxin]

Great!!!
Thanks!!!!!